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Thoughts on Download Booster Being Disabled?

Today I posted this on G+:
https://plus.google.com/104522596589171041648/posts/JfBDxdTAjSR
I'd be willing to place down a wager that the +Verizon Wireless and +AT&T variants of the Galaxy S5 will have the download booster feature disabled.
I can't imagine those companies taking very kindly to the idea of using WiFi and LTE simultaneously, just due to the fear of pissed off customers going over their data plans because they had no idea what they were doing. Plus it has the real potential to create even more usage on their networks, which most bigger carriers don't seem to like.
Considering how providers like to push people to use WiFi whenever possible (doesn't ever carrier have a WiFi finder app these days?), yeah, I don't see the big boys taking too kindly to the download booster. I guess we'll find out in a little under 2 weeks.
If my hunch is correct, I'd highly suggest that anyone owning affected variants scream and complain to anyone who will listen. This will hopefully lead to the guilty carriers releasing statements saying "The exclusion of the download booster functionality was an oversight and not intentional. We will fix this issue in a future software update."
Any thoughts?

It better not be. But yes, I can see them doing that. I say, it's my data, let me use it anyway I want to.
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Well AT&T's sure doesn't mention download booster anywhere on the S5 page. I swear to God if they disabled it I will raise hell. Such a great feature too.
But these larger carriers have to much control. They really shouldn't be able to touch any device or modify it. Only Samsung should do that. If T-Mobile didn't have such spotty coverage by me, I'd be on them in a second ordering my S5 instead of ATT.
Ordering the non carrier version of the S5 isn't an option either because it so conveniently doesn't support bands 4 and 17. WOW

That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.

I could be wrong but i would imagine there is a setting you can disable to prevent yourself from constantly using both. So it should be in the purchasers hands hence no reason for AT&T to disable it to prevent data overages. That being said, AT&T is a company that likes to piss everyone off and remove features that are major selling points just because they can.

karmuh said:
I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.
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I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8

MattMJB0188 said:
I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8
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I preordered an AT&T GS5 as well. I don't think it will replace my Z Ultra GPE as a daily driver, but I'm definitely going to have fun with it.
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oldblue910 said:
That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.

MattMJB0188 said:
Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.
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I ordered a white one too. The GS4 GPE only comes in white so I'm used to white Galaxy devices now. haha
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This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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natefish said:
This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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I am hoping that there is a way to disable it, as I really don't need it.
As it turns out, I changed my mind.. Cancelled my order and ordered HTC One M8

http://techknowzone.com/how-to-use-download-booster-in-samsung-galaxy-s5/
According to that article, not only can you disable it, but it actually doesnt impact normal web browsing or downloading small files. All the more reason AT&T has no excuse to disable it. For the average consumer, you wont got over your data simply because its on. If you arent downloading files over 30mb, it does nothing.

I'm sure the feature isn't there on the store models. Maybe because no sim card or active data connection
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.

daraj said:
Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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oldblue910 said:
Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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yes its out. also got some pics

daraj said:
yes its out. also got some pics
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Wow... Well hopefully the floor model isn't running final software and there will be an OTA before launch. I'm not going to freak out just yet.
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daraj said:
Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.

MattMJB0188 said:
If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.
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I'm going to head over to the biggest corporate store in the area tonight and see if they have a GS5 on the floor. If so, I'll try to verify it. If it's true, you can bet your ass I'm canceling my preorder.
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Some pics from the store today
Sorry they came up inverted.

T-Mobile WiFi calling ?

They said the nexus 6 is going yo get WiFi calling in early 2015. Will the moto x get it ? I mean you its running the same 5.0 its only makes sense that it would.

I think that not only will you need 5.0, T-Mobile will need to send out an update. From what I read, T-Mobile will be sending an update out in 2015 for the N6. My guess is Google actually will, but with T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling framework inside. So, that would lead me to believe that T-Mobile will have to want it added to the moto X in order for it to work.

So most likely it won't happen ...

gotzaDroid said:
I think that not only will you need 5.0, T-Mobile will need to send out an update. From what I read, T-Mobile will be sending an update out in 2015 for the N6. My guess is Google actually will, but with T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling framework inside. So, that would lead me to believe that T-Mobile will have to want it added to the moto X in order for it to work.
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Idk how T-Mobile is going to do so, when there is only one SKU for the American n6. Also, Google doesn't want tainted software so I don't think carriers are allowed to mess with the system files Google provides. If T-Mobile can, then that means carriers are in control of ota updates then?
I'm thinking if it does come to the n6, I'm sure we can hack that and make it work on the Moto X since both are very similar in software
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0.0 said:
Idk how T-Mobile is going to do so, when there is only one SKU for the American n6. Also, Google doesn't want tainted software so I don't think carriers are allowed to mess with the system files Google provides. If T-Mobile can, then that means carriers are in control of ota updates then?
I'm thinking if it does come to the n6, I'm sure we can hack that and make it work on the Moto X since both are very similar in software
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I sure hope you're right. I was only relaying what T-Mobile said, by pushing out an update. I'd hate for the N6 or our phone turn into the Verizon galaxy nexus.

Any updates on this? Are people with the 2014 Moto X able to use T-Mobile's wifi calling?

cb474 said:
Any updates on this? Are people with the 2014 Moto X able to use T-Mobile's wifi calling?
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No, no Wi-Fi calling.

gotzaDroid said:
No, no Wi-Fi calling.
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Huh, even with Lollipop? I thought Lollipop was supposed to have native wifi calling built into it, that would work with T-Mobile's wifi calling.

cb474 said:
Huh, even with Lollipop? I thought Lollipop was supposed to have native wifi calling built into it, that would work with T-Mobile's wifi calling.
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It is, or at least a future version will. But.... I'm sure T-Mobile will either need to release an app or give Google the code to add it in and who knows if moto will implement that code, if that's the route T-mo/Google goes.
I guess it could be like an APN where we'd need to enter the correct settings, but I just can't see that as it would be too easy for the masses (not like us here who at least know a little bit) to screw it up.
My honest guess, we'll never see it as T-Mobile doesn't sell this phone in stores or online like they do the Nexus 6. That shouldn't matter, but I can see it being an issue of knowledge base and support (even though the damn thing comes with a T-Mobile Sim). I hope I'm wrong as I'd really like to get WiFi calling back, but in not holding my breath.

gotzaDroid said:
It is, or at least a future version will. But.... I'm sure T-Mobile will either need to release an app or give Google the code to add it in and who knows if moto will implement that code, if that's the route T-mo/Google goes.
I guess it could be like an APN where we'd need to enter the correct settings, but I just can't see that as it would be too easy for the masses (not like us here who at least know a little bit) to screw it up.
My honest guess, we'll never see it as T-Mobile doesn't sell this phone in stores or online like they do the Nexus 6. That shouldn't matter, but I can see it being an issue of knowledge base and support (even though the damn thing comes with a T-Mobile Sim). I hope I'm wrong as I'd really like to get WiFi calling back, but in not holding my breath.
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Yeah, I really don't want another phone without wifi calling. But I'm hesitating to get the Nexus 6, because of the size. And of course, T-Mobile still have yet to make good on the promise that wifi calling will be enabled on the Nexus 6.
It just doesn't seem like this should be such a big deal. Apple did it on the iPhones and you don't have to buy the iPhone directly from T-Mobile. And T-Mobile has an interest in getting people onto wifi and off of their cellular network, whenever possible.

Nexus 6 on Verizon - what works and what doesn't

Thus far, I think we've learned that dropping in a Nano SIM from an active line works perfectly.
What else is working? What is not working?
Is Google Voice working?

roadratx said:
Thus far, I think we've learned that dropping in a Nano SIM from an active line works perfectly.
What else is working? What is not working?
Is Google Voice working?
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I haven't come across any issues however I don't use Google Voice or tether (two most common questions). Otherwise, it works just like any other device would.

Does anyone with a Google play device have it show up as non Verizon device on your account.
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selayan said:
Does anyone with a Google play device have it show up as non Verizon device on your account.
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That is exactly what is shown. NON-VZW DEVICE.

Ok so neither moto devices or Google are in the Verizon system.
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roadratx said:
Thus far, I think we've learned that dropping in a Nano SIM from an active line works perfectly.
What else is working? What is not working?
Is Google Voice working?
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I got mine from Moto and everything works as fine as any other phone I've ever purchased directly from Verizon. It was as simple as inserting the nano SIM from my old Moto X and I was good-to-go.
I use Google Voice for VM and have had no issues.
I don't pay for the hotspot feature, so that doesn't work until I have root.
Yes, My Verizon shows NON-VZW DEVICE, but it works flawlessly. FWIW Google Play also initially showed "No carrier Nexus 6", but now it says "Verizon Wireless Nexus 6".

I think everything works as far as I know. Tempted to buy from tmobile but don't want Verizon to whitelist or black list or whatever.. I already have a nano sim from the m8 and adapter for,my g3.
But tmobile. Has to activate it first.. I wonder if that would cause any issues?

jay_em113 said:
I got mine from Moto and everything works as fine as any other phone I've ever purchased directly from Verizon. It was as simple as inserting the nano SIM from my old Moto X and I was good-to-go.
I use Google Voice for VM and have had no issues.
I don't pay for the hotspot feature, so that doesn't work until I have root.
Yes, My Verizon shows NON-VZW DEVICE, but it works flawlessly. FWIW Google Play also initially showed "No carrier Nexus 6", but now it says "Verizon Wireless Nexus 6".
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Hmm but the Motorola one will not show up as Verizon wireless nexus 6. I wonder if later they can disable it. Edit: nevermind that's the actual phone saying that.
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selayan said:
Hmm but the Motorola one will not show up as Verizon wireless nexus 6. I wonder if later they can disable it. Edit: nevermind that's the actual phone saying that.
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I think the whole issue with Verizon is really overblown and there shouldn't be any concerns. There are only two variants of the phone, one for US and one for international. Verizon and Moto/Google have obviously come to some agreement to allow the US version to use their network without any extra steps. I know it's hard for everyone to believe that there is a real Nexus on Verizon, but I'm here to tell you that it's here, and it works effortlessly and flawlessly. Verizon deserves some credit for this after the Galaxy Nexus debacle, but again....that was their own variant of the phone. Phones have changed to be less carrier-centric, and the carriers have had to adapt if they want to carry the popular phones.

jay_em113 said:
I think the whole issue with Verizon is really overblown and there shouldn't be any concerns. There are only two variants of the phone, one for US and one for international. Verizon and Moto/Google have obviously come to some agreement to allow the US version to use their network without any extra steps. I know it's hard for everyone to believe that there is a real Nexus on Verizon, but I'm here to tell you that it's here, and it works effortlessly and flawlessly. Verizon deserves some credit for this after the Galaxy Nexus debacle, but again....that was their own variant of the phone. Phones have changed to be less carrier-centric, and the carriers have had to adapt if they want to carry the popular phones.
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I agree. The only caveat is if you don't have a nano SIM you have to either cut yours or order one from Verizon on the phone not in store. Then activate using your old phone.
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jay_em113 said:
I think the whole issue with Verizon is really overblown and there shouldn't be any concerns. There are only two variants of the phone, one for US and one for international. Verizon and Moto/Google have obviously come to some agreement to allow the US version to use their network without any extra steps. I know it's hard for everyone to believe that there is a real Nexus on Verizon, but I'm here to tell you that it's here, and it works effortlessly and flawlessly. Verizon deserves some credit for this after the Galaxy Nexus debacle, but again....that was their own variant of the phone. Phones have changed to be less carrier-centric, and the carriers have had to adapt if they want to carry the popular phones.
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I agree, but we don't have definitive answers on whether VZW white listed all nexus 6 or if only GP and Moto ones

roadratx said:
I agree, but we don't have definitive answers on whether VZW white listed all nexus 6 or if only GP and Moto ones
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Yea. I was worried about this. I want to pull the trigger buying from tmobile but yea because Verizon might pull some whitelisting crap

I haven't found anything that isn't working yet.

Google Voice for calls and VM are working, and Portable Hotspot is fine too. That is on my micro-cut-to-nano SIM card from my S4.

SimonTuffGuy said:
Google Voice for calls and VM are working, and Portable Hotspot is fine too. That is on my micro-cut-to-nano SIM card from my S4.
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Were you paying for the hotspot feature/on a mobile share plan? I'm on an unlimited data plan and hotspot doesn't work.

bloodiedwraith said:
Were you paying for the hotspot feature/on a mobile share plan? I'm on an unlimited data plan and hotspot doesn't work.
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Pretty sure you need to root for it to work.

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Pretty sure you need to root for it to work.
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Oh I know that - I was hoping that it wouldn't be disabled out of the box but I was hoping lol

What about the alleged carrier bloat that was supposed to be downloaded upon activation? Havent heard a word on this so I assume it aint true

Nothing came down on mine, but this could also be due to the fact that Verizon doesn't even have the N6 in their system so there may not be anything on there side setup to even push. This could possibly change down the line when Verizon actually starts carrying it.

bloodiedwraith said:
Were you paying for the hotspot feature/on a mobile share plan? I'm on an unlimited data plan and hotspot doesn't work.
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My phone is part of my works plan, in which hotspot is a feature. When I clicked on the hotspot option the phone did a "checking for subscription" type warning and then it enabled.
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What about the alleged carrier bloat that was supposed to be downloaded upon activation? Havent heard a word on this so I assume it aint true
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I had an OTA that installed, but no carrier bloat after activation.

Switching from verizon...

currently i have a note 4 with verizon, but going to switch
i currently have unlimited data with vz, im grandfathered, and going to the 2 lines for 100$ with unlimited data (only tethering is throttled, and for those who root t-mobile won't be able to differentiate between on device data and tethered right?).
Service, how is it? I live in phoenix, don't travel much but if i do i'm never in rural areas. I do go to NYC\Queens are about once a month.
Customer service, How is it?
Billing expectations, how is it?
Thanks for your input guys, i'm ready to make the jump just need some input-

Should try prepaid T-Mobile first. Service might suck and then you will be mad. Or it could same or better and wonder why you did t switch as fast as you could.

masri1987 said:
currently i have a note 4 with verizon, but going to switch
i currently have unlimited data with vz, im grandfathered, and going to the 2 lines for 100$ with unlimited data (only tethering is throttled, and for those who root t-mobile won't be able to differentiate between on device data and tethered right?).
Service, how is it? I live in phoenix, don't travel much but if i do i'm never in rural areas. I do go to NYC\Queens are about once a month.
Customer service, How is it?
Billing expectations, how is it?
Thanks for your input guys, i'm ready to make the jump just need some input-
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I live in DC but travel back and forth to my hometown which is (Brooklyn, NY). The service is great within any major city. I've had bad service in West Virginia (which is pretty rural).
I honestly think T-Mobile's customer service is great and if I'm not mistaken they work 24/7.
Right now my girlfriend and I are on the "2 for $100" family plan that you speak of and it would of been 2 for $100 but we both have financed phones (she has the S5 & I have the Note 4) and we both have insurance. Our bill is roughly $180.
Conclusion, its not a bad deal and what I love is no contract and we have JUMP which allows us to switch phones as many times as we want (for a fee of course).

masri1987 said:
currently i have a note 4 with verizon, but going to switch
i currently have unlimited data with vz, im grandfathered, and going to the 2 lines for 100$ with unlimited data (only tethering is throttled, and for those who root t-mobile won't be able to differentiate between on device data and tethered right?).
Service, how is it? I live in phoenix, don't travel much but if i do i'm never in rural areas. I do go to NYC\Queens are about once a month.
Customer service, How is it?
Billing expectations, how is it?
Thanks for your input guys, i'm ready to make the jump just need some input-
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I was a long time VZW customer for 14 years living in Chicago. I recently moved to Scottsdale in August. The recent Galaxy S4 OTA from VZW rendered my phone useless. Twelve to twenty reboots daily. After 6 replacements Verizon refused to switch out to another model phone. Tech Support had the balls to suggest that I buy a phone on Craigslist even though my current phone was still under factory warranty. I made the switch to T-Mobile in November and couldn't be happier. Faster and better LTE coverage than VZW. Plus unlocked bootloaders and more affordable plans. TMO just announced their Data Stash program effective 1/15/15. Another win win for the Un Carrier...... Go for it my friend
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I was a long time VZW customer for 14 years living in Chicago. I recently moved to Scottsdale in August. The recent Galaxy S4 OTA from VZW rendered my phone useless. Twelve to twenty reboots daily. After 6 replacements Verizon refused to switch out to another model phone. Tech Support had the balls to suggest that I buy a phone on Craigslist even though my current phone was still under factory warranty. I made the switch to T-Mobile in November and couldn't be happier. Faster and better LTE coverage than VZW. Plus unlocked bootloaders and more affordable plans. TMO just announced their Data Stash program effective 1/15/15. Another win win for the Un Carrier...... Go for it my friend
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the answer i was looking for, you've made my decision. Getting two Note 4's ,, was considering Nexus 6 but na, i have the note 4 with vz and i hate it because of the locked bootloader too.
I worked for vz corp in chandler for the last 9.5 years up to November 1st. So Yeah, you're experience sounds about right, and i def don't wanna be treated like a VZ Consumer so I have til the end of the month before i'm converted back to a consumer account with consumer pricing..
Thank you all for your opinions...
I will be going for the 2 for 100$ with the monthly payments and insurance i'm also about 180$
Q: can i pay the phone off sooner if i wish?

masri1987 said:
the answer i was looking for, you've made my decision. Getting two Note 4's ,, was considering Nexus 6 but na, i have the note 4 with vz and i hate it because of the locked bootloader too.
I worked for vz corp in chandler for the last 9.5 years up to November 1st. So Yeah, you're experience sounds about right, and i def don't wanna be treated like a VZ Consumer so I have til the end of the month before i'm converted back to a consumer account with consumer pricing..
Thank you all for your opinions...
I will be going for the 2 for 100$ with the monthly payments and insurance i'm also about 180$
Q: can i pay the phone off sooner if i wish?
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Yep you have the option of paying off your new N4 with no penalties. You will not regret your decision. If you are into rooting and modding your phone Dynamic Kat & Fire Kat are great Roms to check out. Welcome aboard and feel free to PM me if you need more help. Cheers and Happy Holidays!
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cbmggm said:
Yep you have the option of paying off your new N4 with no penalties. You will not regret your decision. If you are into rooting and modding your phone Dynamic Kat & Fire Kat are great Roms to check out. Welcome aboard and feel free to PM me if you need more help. Cheers and Happy Holidays!
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Sounds good, thank you and happy holidays to all!

These guys all hit it spot on... I might even go as far as to say try the test drive program. Yes yes its an iPhone, butttttt, its a no strings attached way to test coverage for seven days.
Moral of the story:
You want to be sure of your coverage over everything. If coverage is good where you live/commute/reside/work/whatever, then you probably won't have a better experience than with T-Mobile. And the network/coverage/plans/deals just keep getting better and better, with no signs of slowing down.

i'm on t-mobile...
couple of questions, i have wanam ,but i don't see the option to change the mapping of our recents\back button ( want the recents to be menu and long back button to be recents)

oh also, is there a dropbox offer for T-Mo note 4 buyers?

also when wifi calling is enabled, sms fails immediately in hangouts when trying to send (can receive though)
turn off wifi calling and boom it works. any ideas?

narrowed down sms via wifi issue (kernel related)
So does anyone know about dropbox offers? and swapping recents for menu? thanks.

Remap recents button to menu
I use the Xposed Additions module found in Xposed to remap the Recents button.

tsdsbrk said:
I use the Xposed Additions module found in Xposed to remap the Recents button.
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perfect.... thank you..
Dropbox should be offering t-mo note 4 buyers a year promo like before... any ideas?

seems like i get the dropbox offer
everytime i clean flash a new rom

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everytime i clean flash a new rom
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do you use previously created drop box account or new one?

i use a previously created one
except for the 1st time the offer popped up

does wifi calling feature use more battery?

So having a peculiar situation , with text over wifi calling,
I got my phone with NJ7 , didn't know any better and flashed a NK4 rom, and while at work wifi texts weren't going through, so i went home flashed full firmware tested at home wifi seemed to work just fine, came back to work today, while wifi calling is on it doesn't work immediately gives me message failed msg using hangouts, but with wifi calling on work wifi using stock sms app works fine, what could it be??
Why would hangouts work over wifi calling on home network on hangouts but not on work wifi on hangouts?

masri1987 said:
So having a peculiar situation , with text over wifi calling,
I got my phone with NJ7 , didn't know any better and flashed a NK4 rom, and while at work wifi texts weren't going through, so i went home flashed full firmware tested at home wifi seemed to work just fine, came back to work today, while wifi calling is on it doesn't work immediately gives me message failed msg using hangouts, but with wifi calling on work wifi using stock sms app works fine, what could it be??
Why would hangouts work over wifi calling on home network on hangouts but not on work wifi on hangouts?
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Post a screen shot of the settings for WiFi calling. What apps are you using besides hangouts and stock?
Any groans or Handcent so forth
BAD ASS NOTE 4

Talk and surf?

Does the Galaxy Note 5 (specifically Sprint) have talk and surf?

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Does the Galaxy Note 5 (specifically Sprint) have talk and surf?
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Do you mean the capability of talking on the phone and being able to surf the web on the phone's browser or even talk on the phone while you are tethering the phone as a modem for a computer or laptop????
If that's what you mean the answer is a big fat NO... Had a long conversation with Sprint about this today. If there is no third party fix for this. My phone will probably be going back and they will have to eat the restocking fee themselves...

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Do you mean the capability of talking on the phone and being able to surf the web on the phone's browser or even talk on the phone while you are tethering the phone as a modem for a computer or laptop????
If that's what you mean the answer is a big fat NO... Had a long conversation with Sprint about this today. If there is no third party fix for this. My phone will probably be going back and they will have to eat the restocking fee themselves...
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That is ridiculous! I used it a lot (tethering and talking at the same time). I can't believe they stepped back in this! Do you happen to know if this is only with Sprint or it is the same with other carriers?

KeboPR said:
That is ridiculous! I used it a lot (tethering and talking at the same time). I can't believe they stepped back in this! Do you happen to know if this is only with Sprint or it is the same with other carriers?
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I believe it's a cdma thing (radio issue)

KeboPR said:
That is ridiculous! I used it a lot (tethering and talking at the same time). I can't believe they stepped back in this! Do you happen to know if this is only with Sprint or it is the same with other carriers?
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Oh i agree. Same with me. Used it everyday. Think the newer notes dont have dual antennas or something like that. Baffling.

This is definitely a Sprint thing although when I had the S3 it had the capability to do both at the same time on Sprint.

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This is definitely a Sprint thing although when I had the S3 it had the capability to do both at the same time on Sprint.
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You are right. The S3 was the last Samsung phone to support talk and surf under 3G service.
It's called: SVDO. I'm not so sure about Sprint but with Verizon, when you have LTE/4G, you can talk and surf.

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I believe it's a cdma thing (radio issue)
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Yakuzahi said:
You are right. The S3 was the last Samsung phone to support talk and surf under 3G service.
It's called: SVDO. I'm not so sure about Sprint but with Verizon, when you have LTE/4G, you can talk and surf.
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I had a Note 3 in sprint which had 2 antennas and it could Data+Voice . Note 5 has only 1 antenna so it can't (atleast in Sprint Version). Also I think Sprint doesn't support VoLTE atm.

yes in another thread I started it has been confirmed that you can talk and surf on the Note 5 through other carriers....Sprint NO though Crazy to think I was talking and surfing on my busted up Note 2 just a few days ago, but can no longer do it on a brand new flagship phone. Just seems super backwards.

sprint will be adding talk and surf in the future. whi knows when.. probably at least a year.

Samsung Note 5 on Verizon no longer supports talk and surf. Very frustrating. I thought I was upgrading from my Galaxy S4, besides the large screen, the Note 5 is a step back. Several other annoyances: you are no longer able to paste a telephone number into the dialer. The work around I found is if you press a number on the keypad first then you can paste the number in...you just have to make sure to erase whatever key you hit on the dialer. And there is no longer an option to quick dial a person more than one number (ie: cell and home). If you look at previous Samsung widgets they give you more than one option, now it is only showing one.

I also noticed not only does this kill talking on the phone and browsing the web but it can effect other things too. Everyday I find more and more limitations to this phone.
-Since I use texting a lot for my business, I started using free messaging app like Kik and others for personal and social texting....That way there are no mix ups between personal and business text... lol no accidental text. So While I am talking on the phone I can not receive any of those messages until after I end the phone call. Since those apps are internet connection based.
So does this mean Email and paypal notifications will do the same? Meaning I cant get an important email or paypal payment notification until I hang up with the client? This would suck big time because I normally keep my clients on the phone to verify their payment has been received....

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You are no longer able to paste a telephone number into the dialer.
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I do it all the time. That too must be a VZW thing.

Been talking and surfing and multitasking all at the same time since 2007. If sprint are that retarded not to overhaul their network, its time to change

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Been talking and surfing and multitasking all at the same time since 2007. If sprint are that retarded not to overhaul their network, its time to change
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Well other people are now reporting that it is not just a Sprint thing so you may want to get some clarity before you switch.... Not even just talking and surfing or tethering and talking, but the fact that I cant get any web based messages, notification,or payment alerts while I am on the phone seems like there is no reason to have an all in one phone. Might as well just have 2 devices...

This is terrible. Who else reported this? I doubt it's a GSM user
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polish_pat said:
This is terrible. Who else reported this? I doubt it's a GSM user
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Looks like Post #11 in this thread is saying Verizon is no longer doing it. I have also seen others post this as well. I wish there was something that could be done about it. This really hinders my business use, social life, and entertainment vs my Note 2. Just an overall huge step backwards for me in every direction. I am just leery of buying a used Note 2 because I cant find any new old stock of them... Otherwise this thing would be back at Sprint ASAP.

All GSM note 5 are identical. There is no reason i could download, talk, hotspot and browse all at the same time using either LTE or a combination of LTE and wifi and other GSM note 5 can't. Isn't verizon also CDMA though? We don't have anymore CDMA carriers in Canada but I remember verizon being now or at some point CDMA
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On my verizon note 5, I have to activate "advanced calling" in the settings. Only drawback is it sucks more battery juice on standby First time I activated it I had to reboot phone. I read the reason they had to change it is because 2 separate radios were used previously for voice and data. Now its a single radio.

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On my verizon note 5, I have to activate "advanced calling" in the settings. Only drawback is it sucks more battery juice on standby First time I activated it I had to reboot phone. I read the reason they had to change it is because 2 separate radios were used previously for voice and data. Now its a single radio.
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Wow .. So it is possible with only one radio? I was under the impression that tome couriers opted for dual radios allowing talk and surf and Sprint did not. This is somewhat hopeful maybe there can be an app or hack to get or activate the "advanced calling" setting for Sprint. Would love to hear or see more info on this.... There is so much conflicting info on this.