VIVID OR NATURAL Screen mode - Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers

Hey guys,
I am a photographer and i want to use the more color accurate screen mode possible.
I would normally utilize natural but the white point looks more yellow then when i am using vivid (could just be because of color contrast vivd provides).
What do you guys think?

The Natural is the most accurate for looking at real-life color -- yes it looks warm but that is because we are used to the other colors.
The DisplayMate review is very lengthy and it explains a lot of this.

vonDubenshire said:
The Natural is the most accurate for looking at real-life color -- yes it looks warm but that is because we are used to the other colors.
The DisplayMate review is very lengthy and it explains a lot of this.
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Thanks man! I'll check it out

vonDubenshire said:
The Natural is the most accurate for looking at real-life color -- yes it looks warm but that is because we are used to the other colors.
The DisplayMate review is very lengthy and it explains a lot of this.
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I agree. I also use natural all the time for my editing. I already read display mate.

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Nexus 4 Screen Calibrate

Hey guys im trying to calibrate my Nexus 4 Screen.
Even with Saturation i think colours are too undersaturated especially the red ones.
Im current using :
Grays:0
Mids: 119
Blacks:119
Whites:7
Brightness:9
Contrast:0
Saturation:119
I really like Amoled colours, so more colour :good::good:
Any one have good settings who can improve the colour Saturation ? Thanks!
hamad138 said:
Hey guys im trying to calibrate my Nexus 4 Screen.
Even with Saturation i think colours are too undersaturated especially the red ones.
Im current using :
Grays:0
Mids: 119
Blacks:119
Whites:7
Brightness:9
Contrast:0
Saturation:119
I really like Amoled colours, so more colour :good::good:
Any one have good settings who can improve the colour Saturation ? Thanks!
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I'm kind of surprised at some folks level of tolerance re. saturation. It seems most are happy with levels that make everyone look the victims of really intense sunburn. Fleshtones just look really wrong.
Anything more than around 23 looks crazy to me.
daglesj said:
I'm kind of surprised at some folks level of tolerance re. saturation. It seems most are happy with levels that make everyone look the victims of really intense sunburn. Fleshtones just look really wrong.
Anything more than around 23 looks crazy to me.
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maybe its just my opinion lol
daglesj said:
I'm kind of surprised at some folks level of tolerance re. saturation. It seems most are happy with levels that make everyone look the victims of really intense sunburn. Fleshtones just look really wrong.
Anything more than around 23 looks crazy to me.
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I don't use my phone to watch porn so I don't really notice skin tone as much as you... although my type of porn is letting my eyes take in the beauty of a home screen thats over saturated.

Color saturation & accuracy

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the LG Nexus 5X's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Colors are a bit dull
Colours pop more more than the N5 and they seem fairly accurate.
Fairly accurate but a bit warm. Some people might like it though, I prefer a sharp white but it's good on the eye anyway.
Good color representation and enough color punch
I am satisfied with the color saturation and accuracy. I wouldn't want the color to be more saturated compared to amoled screen. The screen on my 5X is relaxing, there is no pressure/strain to the eyes(auto brightness is on) it just feels right!
According to Anandtech the colors and white point are spot on as far accuracy goes...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review/2
Years of over saturated colors and much too blue white points have conditioned us to think that displays should look like that
Colors seem accurate, EXCEPT for when viewing videos. Colors seem extremely muted when in a video, for instance in youtube, you might see a screenshot of a video when choosing what video to watch, but if you click it and get to the same scene, the colors will be muted in video.
CrushD said:
Colors seem accurate, EXCEPT for when viewing videos. Colors seem extremely muted when in a video, for instance in youtube, you might see a screenshot of a video when choosing what video to watch, but if you click it and get to the same scene, the colors will be muted in video.
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I'm seeing similar behaviour. Gamma looks out of whack in youtube. Blacks are totally washed out. Everything looks overexposed. Not sure if it's a software/driver issue. The display looks great otherwise. Need to try out some other video apps (kodi, mxplayer etc.) to confirm.
Edit: It is indeed a software issue. It's the difference between 16-235 vs 0-255. See this thread for more details https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3r9ftg/defective_6p_screen_vs_normal/
Also: https://productforums.google.com/fo...J0aLRo/YIFmN5jXAQAJ;context-place=forum/nexus
The youtube test fails on my n5x, but not on my n5
I'm pretty happy with it. Improved compared to the Nexus 5(which was good too). Some owners have reported a very warm/yellowish screen but luckily I'm not having that issue. I rated it a 4/5 for saturation and accuracy which is as good as possible for a LCD.
EDIT: So I just did a side by side comparison between my Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X. Side by side the Nexus 5X is noticeably warmer but it's not overly warm and honestly, coming from someone who prefers displays on the cooler side because they look more life like, I actually would give the slight edge to the Nexus 5X. But like I said that is only side by side. With each phone on its own I can't really tell either one being too warm or too cool. As far as saturation goes the Nexus 5X is better. The colors on the Nexus 5 were noticeably more washed out compared to the Nexus 5X(although not that bad). I really see it in the red of the Chrome icon, the green of the Hangouts icon and the blue of the Facebook icon. It's still not AMOLED colors but closer than the Nexus 5.
fink.nottle said:
I'm seeing similar behaviour. Gamma looks out of whack in youtube. Blacks are totally washed out. Everything looks overexposed. Not sure if it's a software/driver issue. The display looks great otherwise. Need to try out some other video apps (kodi, mxplayer etc.) to confirm.
Edit: It is indeed a software issue. It's the difference between 16-235 vs 0-255. See this thread for more details https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3r9ftg/defective_6p_screen_vs_normal/
Also: https://productforums.google.com/fo...J0aLRo/YIFmN5jXAQAJ;context-place=forum/nexus
The youtube test fails on my n5x, but not on my n5
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Does anyone know if any of the custom ROMs fix this issue? I don't see it mentioned as a feature in any of the first posts of the ROMs posted in this forum...
CrushD said:
Does anyone know if any of the custom ROMs fix this issue? I don't see it mentioned as a feature in any of the first posts of the ROMs posted in this forum...
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No, but this is a kernel bug. Someone identified the commit in the reddit thread. So you wouldn't even need an entire ROM for a fix. A kernel fix should do it. I don't have enough posts to post in the kernel forums, but you should post in the elementalx kernel thread. The dev seems to be active in developing kernels for all the nexus phones.
jimv1983 said:
EDIT: So I just did a side by side comparison between my Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X. Side by side the Nexus 5X is noticeably warmer but it's not overly warm and honestly, coming from someone who prefers displays on the cooler side because they look more life like, I actually would give the slight edge to the Nexus 5X..
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Nexus 5 has a white point of just over 7000k, the 5X is almost bang on 6500k.
Like many have said, we are just used to seeing "cooler" colours in our phones. Nexus 5X is really accurate as far as colours go.
James1o1o said:
Nexus 5 has a white point of just over 7000k, the 5X is almost bang on 6500k.
Like many have said, we are just used to seeing "cooler" colours in our phones. Nexus 5X is really accurate as far as colours go.
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That is true though some 5x are arriving with extreme yellow tints which make them look like 5000k or even warmer. Anyone who gets one of these would be 100% correct in saying the device is too yellow, unfortunately since most people are so used to cold blue screens they might not even be able to tell which they received as compared to their old device even a proper 5x panel will probably look warm.
For example this was a replacement 5x device I received on the right which went straight back to Google.
http://imgur.com/a/FyT9e
CrushD said:
Does anyone know if any of the custom ROMs fix this issue? I don't see it mentioned as a feature in any of the first posts of the ROMs posted in this forum...
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Im fairly certain its addressed by kernels not roms... Personally i use Flar2's elemental kernel and have since the Original N5. With his app (which im happy to support) you have full colour controls including gamma. Which you can flash over stock or custom rom depending on your preference his kernel is in the Original Development section.
Nice colours
My last phone (lg g2) was ruining my eyes. Too cool blue with strong contrast. Overtime a screen with false colors and contrast can ruin your vision - making the real world seem dull.
The Nexus 5X is correct and easier on the eyes.
Well, it seems to me that default color is pumped, like vivid, almost neonic a bit and warm. Which is good I guess for the phone. Im not planning to do any color balancing and adjustments on my phone, I would use the PC for that kind of work of course.
Unbelievable nice!

sRGB Mode [Opinions]

So with the new update sRGB mode was enabled and I personally dont find it good, it has too much yellowish tint. I mean how does this make the screen better in any way. The colors might seem accurate but the yellow tint is too hard to ignore. Went back to previous mode. How about you guys
No yellow tint on my display. sRGB seems pretty natural to me, I absolutely prefer it over the standard mode.
Same with 6P of 5X, that's neutral color, your eyes are familiar with vivid-tuned display tone, just like me lol
Your eyes are just used to a brighter more colourful display so it looks worse. it does show of a yellower tint but I'm gonna use it for a while see if I get used to it.
Tbh the mode is for Colourophile's and i'm happy with the normal one
I don't know what you expected. They told you neutral colors when you're used to super saturated colors.
Loving the sRGB personally.
Same, sRBG represent a more natural color spectrum. The "yellow" tint is actually a proper (as close as they could calibrate) representation of true white. Too many oversaturated screens on the market are being accepted as "true" color representation.
Personally I don't like it, too. First I was really excited about it. When i tried it everything doesn't look as shiny as before. All the colors looked like they are washed-out.
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I'm not a fan. Personally, I prefer sRGB off and just setting the colour balance slider to max in the display settings. sRGB makes all my icons look washed out, like when you leave a print exposed to sunlight and the ink fades. ????
thelostlegend said:
So with the new update sRGB mode was enabled and I personally find it sucky, too much yellowish tint. I mean how does this make the screen better in any way. The colors might seem accurate but the yellow tint is too hard to ignore. Went back to previous mode. How about you guys
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I use the amoled. So it doesnt matter to me.
Compared to my computer screen, OPO and many other devices the stock colour calibration is closer than sRGB
lordred12345 said:
Compared to my computer screen, OPO and many other devices the stock colour calibration is closer than sRGB
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Something wrong with your screen then. The color calibration is a lot more accurate in sRGB mode, but that doesn't mean you can enjoy the original calibration more since it's more "fun" to look at. sRGB, while more accurate, looks a bit washed out in my eyes but after having used it for a while I don't want to switch back because of how exaggerated and saturated the original calibration is.
Guys you are never statisfied.
You have a choice between two options, stop complaining, choose the one you prefer, and try screen calibration apps like Scrreen Balance, or wait for specific mods/app.
sRGB is close to natural colors all objective tests and done on labs say that, what you like is a different thing, many screens are oversaturated so people are used to that. Thoses complain threads are useless.
Just got my replacement device.
Screen is now perfect and even (had tint problems on the 1st device).
And really loving the sRGB mode instantaneously! NOT too yellow, and finally colors which are not crying" HERE I'M! I'M REEEEED! NOOO, HERE! I'M BLUUUUUUE!"
Great job, Oneplus! Thanks!
People who are complaining here just have no clue and are just conditioned by the companies into loving overblown colors. (Just like many people love too loud and too bass-heavy music because the music industry has conditioned them into that.)
Its a similar thing on the S7E, which in 'basic' (sRGB) mode has been measured as the most accurate phone screen available. Once you get used to the more natural look its difficult to go back to 'shop mode'.
Try it for a few days. You can always switch back
As an added bonus you may also have slightly better battery life.
Its making the decision to keep the phone as a second driver easier and it will replace the p9000.
Compared with s6 on basic mode and op3 does a better job, couldn't do a good job in clicking pics tho, you can barely make out anything in these
I really love the sRGB mode. Finally the colors aren't so super shiny anymore. Coming from an iPhone and never liking Samsung like colours that's a really big deal for me.
When white is not white, then it sucks. Better give us KCAL control,
Let me decide which contrast, hue and tone i want =b
So, i agree, sRGB sucks
otonieru said:
When white is not white, then it sucks. Better give us KCAL control,
Let me decide which contrast, hue and tone i want =b
So, i agree, sRGB sucks
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Absolutely agree with you, when white is not white it sucks, other colors do appear more natural, this mode is best for viewing photos and videos rest I'm not sure .
We need custom kernels with kcal, waiting to try out cm but dash ????
They should call it sDRAB it makes my screen look like a corpse. I like a little spice. sRGB is way too bland albeit accurate. I guess it's useful when using photoshop or snapseed but I don't see any day to day application for it. Other than dying of boredom...

Which screen calibration do you prefer?

Just want to know if you guys want a oversaturated screen (Default) or a realistic one, but a little yellowish (sRGB)
Thank you !
Srgb for me as seeing accurate colors is the best for my work. But i think one plus can improve tge color accuracy further without making whites yellowish but by making whites look like whites
DCI_P3. Much better than either default (saturation fest) or sGRB (accurate, but yellowish). Try it!
redsmith said:
DCI_P3. Much better than either default (saturation fest) or sGRB (accurate, but yellowish). Try it!
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Using DCI_P3 too, and I can confirm, it's better for me than those two.

Question Selfie camera eye color sucks

iPhone seems to actually capture my eye color, pixel just gets shadows over my eyes. Does the selfie camera on this just suck? I've tested in low light and outside bright light.
Maybe go back to iphone?
bs3pro said:
Maybe go back to iphone?
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Lmao what a reply
nasedase said:
Lmao what a reply
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Actually it's quite valid response. You have two phones, one you like and the other is worse at this key aspect. If it is a deal breaker...
And did not quite understand your problem. iPhone gets the color right amd Pixel give you the color of...shadow?
nasedase said:
Lmao what a reply
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What's wrong with it? You obviously like the iphone better.
Finneri said:
Actually it's quite valid response. You have two phones, one you like and the other is worse at this key aspect. If it is a deal breaker...
And did not quite understand your problem. iPhone gets the color right amd Pixel give you the color of...shadow?
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I think I know what he meant, basically when taking a selfie in some lighting situations, your eyes (iris) will become almost completely black. I think it looks awful and unnatural. Not sure about previous Pixels, but I've encountered this on both P6P and now P7P.
jericho246 said:
I think I know what he meant, basically when taking a selfie in some lighting situations, your eyes (iris) will become almost completely black. I think it looks awful and unnatural. Not sure about previous Pixels, but I've encountered this on both P6P and now P7P.
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Had to try it myself, can't see the problem. Took one in the bathroom with direct bright light, colors were spot on. Then I took another in very very dimly lit room with night sight, the eyes were...dark. Then I took a mirror and looked myself in that dim light and my eyes were...dark again
But yes, Pixel is known for pumped contrast in pictures and it shows a lot in selfies in low light. My eyes looked actually that dark in that light but my beard was about 25% darker than in real life. So that might be the issue here.
Not a lot to do to fix this, I'm afraid. Take your selfies in good light
Edit. To the original problem, Iphone vs Pixel, Iphone lifts the dark areas more and Pixel lefts them darker. That might include your eye sockets on a sunny day (shadows) and low light.

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