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My Z is a few months old now, and has been functioning fine so far. Now and then though, the camera goes completely nuts- by taking photos with yellowish/brownish bars across it. The bars are visible on screen too. I can't figure out what's causing this (I've wiped the back panel), but it seems like it only happens for indoor shots, especially when the subject of the photo is close to the camera (about 20cm away).
Is this something to worry about? Are there many other users with the same problem, and should I send it in for servicing/ to get a replacement unit? It's still under warranty.
I'm on build 101.1.A.1.253, running stock 4.1.2, for what it's worth.
Get it replaced.
From me to you.
XperienceD said:
Get it replaced.
From me to you.
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Not sure if they provide replacements under warranty here, actually... did you have the same problem?
aprilius20 said:
did you have the same problem?
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No, but if my pictures were coming out like that as well as my display looking like it too whilst using the camera, it would be going back.
XperienceD said:
No, but if my pictures were coming out like that as well as my display looking like it too whilst using the camera, it would be going back.
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Yeah same here, it seems more the logical. The shop you bought it can't call that a good picture.
I done some research on this
this is under fluorescent lighting @ ISO 1600
This is under fluorescent lighting @ ISO100 (still a little brownish)
This is under fluorescent lighting @ ISO 400? With HDR ON
This is under sunlight @ ISO 1600 With HDR ON
I have tested also on ther condition, did not upload it/ deleted
but i can sort of deduce this
1. The brown bars are caused by the fluorescent lighting that have a frequency clash with the camera refresh rate.
2. The problem seems minimize at ISO100, appears slightly @ ISO200 but worsen once over ISO400
3. The pictures above is taken at close range ~ 8cm away with the phone place on an elevated box.
4. with fluorescent lighting, the HDR ON affect on as low as ISO100, and causes the ghost/double image and really tits up on higher ISO. This issue lessen with natural sunlight where the image maintain crisp until ISO 1600.
5. I cannot use the self timer as the flash light for the timer sometimes f-up the focus (this is a real f-up)
6. There are still other modes i have yet to test out such as burst etc
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No, but if my pictures were coming out like that as well as my display looking like it too whilst using the camera, it would be going back.
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Logical enough for me
mcchin said:
I done some research on this
1. The brown bars are caused by the fluorescent lighting that have a frequency clash with the camera refresh rate.
6. There are still other modes i have yet to test out such as burst etc
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I didn't bother testing as much as you did, but all that does seem to make sense! Did some searching and it seems like some Sony cameras have this problem (point and shoot, or DSLR, I can't remember). It is an indoor only thing like you said, under fluorescent lighting.
Wonder if this qualifies as a bug or a hardware limitation...
Hi all,
I have bought the phone yesterday, stock, unlocked latest software.
Look at those pictures, especially white birds... Ridiculous, even some white tint over seagulls, zero details on white feathers.
No sun, normal Irish day..
Please comment... Stock camera settings.
http://db.tt/BnlPNQqy
http://db.tt/PTM8fnBE
are you on 1.29?
the photo`s are overexposed, the one sets the exposure on what it is focusing on, so i would have though it focused on the dark water and raised the exposure, that`s is why the white birds are overexposed, if you focused on a white bird, the one would reduce the exposure, and give more detail on the birds.
You know you can touch the screen to focus, but there is a setting in the menu to take a photo automatically when you click on an area of the screen.
I wish there was an total area exposure mode instead of the focus spot one.
John.
that ^
I'm not an expert but, I think you just need to focus manually (press on the screen to focus as Tinderbox said) to avoid an overexposed picture...
valdigre said:
Hi all,
I have bought the phone yesterday, stock, unlocked latest software.
Look at those pictures, especially white birds... Ridiculous, even some white tint over seagulls, zero details on white feathers.
No sun, normal Irish day..
Please comment... Stock camera settings.
http://db.tt/BnlPNQqy
http://db.tt/PTM8fnBE
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It's called metering. When you tap on the water to focus (dark), the camera turns the light up so that the water is clearly visible and perfectly exposed. But since you're making dark brighter, the brights will naturally be even brighter. You want the feathers to show detail, you tap on them and it adjusts the light so that they are darker and you can see detail at the expense of even darker water.
Your best bet in these kind of high contrast situations is to use HDR mode. It takes 1 under-exposed image (dark) and 1 slightly over-exposed image (bright) and merges the 2 together. Dark areas will be brighter and bright areas will be darker, giving the image a little fake look, but evenly exposed throughout.
On dSLRs, HDR actually takes THREE images to combine (sometimes even 5). This gives the processor more choices to pick and choose the best parts of each image to merge to a final picture.
SLver said:
that ^
I'm not an expert but, I think you just need to focus manually (press on the screen to focus as Tinderbox said) to avoid an overexposed picture...
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Thanks for your replies, guys.
I don't remember now, what I have been focusing on - was it the swans/seagulls or dark water, pavement. I think I tried both, focusing on different areas of the screen and the result was the same.
Same goes for videos, birds are overblown and shine like some white lanterns...
My firmware is 1.29.401.16
yeah do some metering and try different types of shots,
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Thanks for your replies, guys.
I don't remember now, what I have been focusing on - was it the swans/seagulls or dark water, pavement. I think I tried both, focusing on different areas of the screen and the result was the same.
Same goes for videos, birds are overblown and shine like some white lanterns...
My firmware is 1.29.401.16
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Just some samples to explain my previous post. First pic is me focusing on the wall, which is dark. The wall is now not but my lightsource is completely blown out.
As one pic shows me focusing on the light. Since it's bright, the camera has to darken the whole scene so I can actually see the object I focused on, turning the rest of the scene dark.
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Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
It's just the camera. I tested it against an s4 and an Xperia z. Indoor shots were way better on the one than either of them but both beat out the one hands down when it came to outdoor shots. I have tried everything and can't get a really good outdoor shot. I would like to see the result of someone porting the Xperia z camera app to our device but I don't know if it is possible.
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valdigre said:
Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
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Those first picture is terrible...
Could you post more pictures because that kind of terrible picture i have never had with the htc one...
So we can see if its realy broken
valdigre said:
Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
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It looks just like what ArmedandDangerous explained. In the first picture you seem to be focused on the water and the second it looks like you're focused on the birds.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
It looks just like what ArmedandDangerous explained. In the first picture you seem to be focused on the water and the second it looks like you're focused on the birds.
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Hey guys,
The problem is, that some extra white/bright objects are too small for the camera to catch focus for and adjust the settings.
I played with settings a bit over the weekend and the camera focuses OK on brighter objects, as long as they are big enough...
A bit of a shame, nor my Lumia 920, nor even galaxy S2 has problems like this... I guess, I can live with it, though
Hello!
When there is a yellow warm street lighting at night, the camera makes very yellow images, for example - the sidewalk color is grey but on the phone screen and on the photo taken the images are super yellow. My phone camera on standard colors, i tried to take photos on auto mode and on night mode- results are same. Can you please confirm if your phone does the same?
tainka said:
Hello!
When there is a yellow warm street lighting at night, the camera makes very yellow images, for example - the sidewalk color is grey but on the phone screen and on the photo taken the images are super yellow. My phone camera on standard colors, i tried to take photos on auto mode and on night mode- results are same. Can you please confirm if your phone does the same?
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i can confirm, some night shots with yellow lightning makes not good pictures. overall im little disapointed to this p30 pro camera.. i had mi9 before this and im thinking back to that.
Vihru said:
i can confirm, some night shots with yellow lightning makes not good pictures. overall im little disapointed to this p30 pro camera.. i had mi9 before this and im thinking back to that.
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The camera is great except this condition when the lighting is yellow. I tried on pro with 2800 white balance - it is the lowest, but it is still yellow.
Confirm. Also, in the room when illuminated by fluorescent lights, the colors also go crazy.
Those types of light sources are challenging to measure the correct white balance of because their frequency updates vary a lot. Most of them will look yellow because that's the colour they emit at night. It's not really a bug but a choice each developer makes how they will meter those types of light sources. You can easily compensate for the default measurement by shooting in Pro mode and setting your own white balance value or even your own Kelvin value.
/ Magnus
Magnus3D said:
Those types of light sources are challenging to measure the correct white balance of because their frequency updates vary a lot. Most of them will look yellow because that's the colour they emit at night. It's not really a bug but a choice each developer makes how they will meter those types of light sources. You can easily compensate for the default measurement by shooting in Pro mode and setting your own white balance value or even your own Kelvin value.
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ו tried it. The lowest is 2800. It is still very yellow.
on p30 the same problem with street lighting
For me white is white
White even if the corridor light on the right is a little yellowish with human eyes
I am making war to this phone for this ****ty yellowish tint on every photos made after sunset with street light, or even inside home with some light. I regret to not buy OnePlus again...
Taking same shot with OnePlus 3t (3yo phone) give the right color output. I can't believe that Huawei are not able to adjust and calibrate this sensor in a better way. Camera phone? Absolutely not... Not to mention the photo quality of wide angle when light isn't perfect, noise everywhere.
I hope will get better with Emui 10/Android 10
Sometimes it doesn't even get better with editing. It's ridiculous, I'm very disappointed.if you are lucky you can recover 70% of the shot losing times with editing... When I pass to OnePlus 3t (even if it's not a camera phone) I almost stop using Photoshop, now... I'm using too much.
Honestly I really don't understand why 97% of reviews doesn't analyze and report this problem.
Very very strange or maybe you are having a hardware issue.
See what I took in out of the pocket conditions.
P30 series using RYYB sensor in main camera for collect 40% more light while other phone+camera using RGGB (basic primary colours).
so yeah, It's best for low light but you got yellow tint +warm color(red orange yellow) shift instead. I saw Huawei try to fixed it since 9.1.0.12x by software process but they can't
btw, They try again on Mate30 by put +UWA(RGGB) same pixel size at main cam(RYYB) (for color comparable on something? i'm not sure) while P30 main cam had different pixel size to UWA. but Mate30 can't take macro picture cause that bigger pixel.
look at this video for color shift problem
like China flag, flower, whatever that have red-orange-yellow color
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZUCTRDuMEA
or this at 1.21 . Red color's chair turn into orange
+creepy penguin artifact at 8.13
https://youtu.be/Plst3HLrs4Y?t=81
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Very very strange or maybe you are having a hardware issue.
See what I took in out of the pocket conditions.
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Not always, but I notice that raising iso get worse. Honestly I think that software can help, expecially with AI.
I don't know the condition of the photos you posted but it's good
Just for saying, the 16:9 shot is made by OnePlus 3t gcam Nightsight (3yo phone), the 4:3 is made by P30 Pro.
Yellow tint corrected by post-editing, but just look at the shot, I really like more the OnePlus with gcam... A 700€ flagship camera phone wanted by older (not camera phone) phone? Disappointed...
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Just for saying, the 16:9 shot is made by OnePlus 3t gcam Nightsight (3yo phone), the 4:3 is made by P30 Pro.
Yellow tint corrected by post-editing, but just look at the shot, I really like more the OnePlus with gcam... A 700€ flagship camera phone wanted by older (not camera phone) phone? Disappointed...
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AFAIK, if you take photos with some warm light (yellow, red..) as a background light (dominant light), the overall result will be turned into yellow tone photos. When I looked at your photos, I saw that the buildings, streets, in where you are living, are always covered by a warm color. That's why the algorithms of P30 pro will cause this issue. This is also an explanation for the photos a guy posted above without any problems.
P/S: Did the latest update (emui 10) fix this problem?
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Sometimes it doesn't even get better with editing. It's ridiculous, I'm very disappointed.if you are lucky you can recover 70% of the shot losing times with editing... When I pass to OnePlus 3t (even if it's not a camera phone) I almost stop using Photoshop, now... I'm using too much.
Honestly I really don't understand why 97% of reviews doesn't analyze and report this problem.
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i wouldn't call this an issue at all.. this could be fixed by an software update, since its the hardware in the phone, a different sensor which captures way more yellow details than other phones, but thats a good thing, because yellow emits way more light, and thats why the p30 pro is able to produce soo good low light shots!
i don't mind lowering the yellow saturation through lightroom, because the cam simply gives you beautiful shots with good detail, even more than you see through your regular eyes at night. Go buy another phone of you are more happy with the shots they produce instead of sh**storming about the camera
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AFAIK, if you take photos with some warm light (yellow, red..) as a background light (dominant light), the overall result will be turned into yellow tone photos. When I looked at your photos, I saw that the buildings, streets, in where you are living, are always covered by a warm color. That's why the algorithms of P30 pro will cause this issue. This is also an explanation for the photos a guy posted above without any problems.
P/S: Did the latest update (emui 10) fix this problem?
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I know but a 1000€ cameraphone can't do this. Yes the problem Is still here.
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i wouldn't call this an issue at all.. this could be fixed by an software update, since its the hardware in the phone, a different sensor which captures way more yellow details than other phones, but thats a good thing, because yellow emits way more light, and thats why the p30 pro is able to produce soo good low light shots!
i don't mind lowering the yellow saturation through lightroom, because the cam simply gives you beautiful shots with good detail, even more than you see through your regular eyes at night. Go buy another phone of you are more happy with the shots they produce instead of sh**storming about the camera
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Yes, that Is what I thinks so, that Is why I'm mad ti Huawei. I can't belive that with lightroom in postproduction on JPEG file you can almost fix the Yellow tint, and the software Is not able ti do It himself, expecially with all the hype on AI. Is this AI so stupid?
Terminator Will kill me first ahahahaha
OldDroid said:
i wouldn't call this an issue at all.. this could be fixed by an software update, since its the hardware in the phone, a different sensor which captures way more yellow details than other phones, but thats a good thing, because yellow emits way more light, and thats why the p30 pro is able to produce soo good low light shots!
i don't mind lowering the yellow saturation through lightroom, because the cam simply gives you beautiful shots with good detail, even more than you see through your regular eyes at night. Go buy another phone of you are more happy with the shots they produce instead of sh**storming about the camera
Regards
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I am now reading the second part of the message that I miss. Dear fanboy, if you are happy to have spent 1000€ for a smartphone sold as a cameraphone that has serious difficulties in the color management good for you. Sincerely coming from oneplus 3t (an old phone and never been a cameraphone) I am disappointed in some conditions since the 3t with gcam is better. Look at the mate 30 pro, same sensor way better job... I repeat if you are happy to often have a yellow tint and have to manually retouch the photos, be happy and be the champion of Huawei justice elsewhere. I can't afford to buy another phone 3 months after buying this since it has already lost € 250 from the amount I paid for it. Greetings and happy new year.
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I am now reading the second part of the message that I miss. Dear fanboy, if you are happy to have spent 1000€ for a smartphone sold as a cameraphone that has serious difficulties in the color management good for you. Sincerely coming from oneplus 3t (an old phone and never been a cameraphone) I am disappointed in some conditions since the 3t with gcam is better. Look at the mate 30 pro, same sensor way better job... I repeat if you are happy to often have a yellow tint and have to manually retouch the photos, be happy and be the champion of Huawei justice elsewhere. I can't afford to buy another phone 3 months after buying this since it has already lost € 250 from the amount I paid for it. Greetings and happy new year.
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Dear oneplus fanboy,
i don't actually carey since i have my own opinion, all op phones are struggeling to achieve any kind of similar zoom, picture quality and night pictures. If you are not happy about the yellow tint, fine, i can live with that little postprocessing "problem". Go rage about that elsewhere, i'm more than happy what the phone offers, and that matters - i had multiple phones, from oneplus to samsung, no way i go back. I'm glad to say i spend 700€ for my P30 Pro, and i do not regret a single thing - if you however feel it was a mistake, then be happy with your Oneplus 3T and stop whining about your "loss"
Regards
Does anyone else feel like there's a haze/fog over the screen when the brightness is around 20% or lower?
This seems to be more noticeable on grey backgrounds. White and pure black seem perfectly fine to the eye
It's hard to try and explain?
Could it be the same issue that*plagued the 4 when it originally came out. Gamma/software calibration*needed*possibly?
It seems fairly uniform too, which makes me think gamma issue rather than panel/HW issue?
Has anyone else noticed the same?
yes, i see the same!
Yeah, we discussed a similar behavior in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/help/colours-bit-off-everything-bit-beige-t4179867
For me I do see this "fog" brownish tint in every brightness situation....
Melecatius said:
Yeah, we discussed a similar behavior in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/help/colours-bit-off-everything-bit-beige-t4179867
For me I do see this "fog" brownish tint in every brightness situation....
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Not the same thing. You're on about color profiles in that thread. This is more like a contrast issue at lower brightness levels
Well... than i have both... there’s fog with loss of contrast and there is a „warm“ color calibration.
My P3 shows black areas where the P5 is grey. Plus, white is minimal brownish so i loose contrast.
I come from a Pixel 2 XL with the black crush. In terms of contrast at low brightness levels, the Pixel 5 is far superior.
Undecided whether to keep it or not.
Grey's look really weird compared to my S10e. Nice and dark on the S10 and really light/pale on the Pixel?
Here's a capture of screen uniformity too
https://ibb.co/mcWc5Lw
superleeds27 said:
Undecided whether to keep it or not.
Grey's look really weird compared to my S10e. Nice and dark on the S10 and really light/pale on the Pixel?
Here's a capture of screen uniformity too
https://ibb.co/mcWc5Lw
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Oh wow that's really bad, is it a bug?
Shady282 said:
Oh wow that's really bad, is it a bug?
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Nope. Just the garbage Google send out
Oh wow that's quite bad, mines perfectly fine no issues screen wise
Anyone else think the colours are a bit "off"? Everything seems a bit beige.
Anyone else think the colours are a bit "off"?
Everything seems a bit beige on my Pixel 5 compared to my Pixel 3. Whites are not brilliant white.
It's like the night light feature is on constantly at a very low level - anyone else finding this?
I thought this too when receiving the phone but not sure it's an issue. I quickly got used to that and I usethe "natural" color profile. I think it was just that my previous phone (huawei) was just a bit too saturated and my eyes quickly got used to it. But yeah white seemed a bit off for me the first time, especially at low brightness level.
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Anyone else think the colours are a bit "off"?
Everything seems a bit beige on my Pixel 5 compared to my Pixel 3. Whites are not brilliant white.
It's like the night light feature is on constantly at a very low level - anyone else finding this?
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My colours are well washed out on mine got it on boosted makes no different
Yeah on my pixel 3 the natural, boosted and adaptive all seemed pretty different - on the pixel 5 I struggle to see the difference. Adaptive looks best though.
Dude! Thanks!! I really love the P5 but the colours... My whole screen looks dusty and brownish.
The contrast of the P3 is so superior I almost want to change back to the P3 again.
Does anyone have a device with a nice contrasty display?
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Yeah on my pixel 3 the natural, boosted and adaptive all seemed pretty different - on the pixel 5 I struggle to see the difference. Adaptive looks best though.
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Same with me: I come from a Pixel 2 XL which I configured for saturated mode. Obviously, it had ridiculously exaggerated colors. I too noticed the brownish touch but it look quite pleasing and natural. Although switching color modes does not make much if a difference. But yes, adaptive looks most punchy, therefore I stick with it.
Also, is there are way to turn the night light feature off permanently? I thought there was a was to do this on the pixel 3. On the pixel 5 I only see the option to turn it "off until sunset"
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Also, is there are way to turn the night light feature off permanently?
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options, nightlight, no shedule
hanni2301 said:
options, nightlight, no shedule
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Cheers. Missed that
Options --> Display --> Nightlight --> no schedule.
It's turned off for me.
But to be honest it feels as if it is still on...
I really begin to hate the display, as I thought the times of ****ty yellowish/beigeish displays is over!
And because of the colortone it even seems to be less contrasty that my P3....
I'm gonna try to do some pictures when there's some spare time in my life.
It feels like it's still on a tiny bit doesn't it. Hopefully it was a design decision by Google to make the screen more "natural" and it's not a limitation of the panel. Then they can fix it with an update.
That's true!
But the question is: is google aware of this??
It seems that just a very few people report this.
And where do I report this directly to google?
ah nice to read that. compared to my s20 ultra the screen looks incredibly awful....
I do not know what happened: Yesterday the brownish tint was clearly visible but it seems gone today. Was it a reboot? Was it the downgrade from Play Services Beta to the latest stable? I do not now. Seems to be a software issue because it is (temporarily?) gone. My best guess would be a non-working color management calibration. And if so: Software can be fixed!
I really wish you're right!
Are you sure you're not just getting used to it?
A reboot hasn't changed anything for me and I also never used the Google service beta (which I'm thinking about joining now )
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ah nice to read that. compared to my s20 ultra the screen looks incredibly awful....
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Define awful?
What's to say the S20 Ultra isn't the one that's bad? Samsung always oversaturate, even in their natural profile.