Low brightness - Screen Gamma/Calibration Performance - Google Pixel 5 Questions & Answers

Does anyone else feel like there's a haze/fog over the screen when the brightness is around 20% or lower?
This seems to be more noticeable on grey backgrounds. White and pure black seem perfectly fine to the eye
It's hard to try and explain?
Could it be the same issue that*plagued the 4 when it originally came out. Gamma/software calibration*needed*possibly?
It seems fairly uniform too, which makes me think gamma issue rather than panel/HW issue?
Has anyone else noticed the same?

yes, i see the same!

Yeah, we discussed a similar behavior in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/help/colours-bit-off-everything-bit-beige-t4179867
For me I do see this "fog" brownish tint in every brightness situation....

Melecatius said:
Yeah, we discussed a similar behavior in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/help/colours-bit-off-everything-bit-beige-t4179867
For me I do see this "fog" brownish tint in every brightness situation....
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Not the same thing. You're on about color profiles in that thread. This is more like a contrast issue at lower brightness levels

Well... than i have both... there’s fog with loss of contrast and there is a „warm“ color calibration.
My P3 shows black areas where the P5 is grey. Plus, white is minimal brownish so i loose contrast.

I come from a Pixel 2 XL with the black crush. In terms of contrast at low brightness levels, the Pixel 5 is far superior.

Undecided whether to keep it or not.
Grey's look really weird compared to my S10e. Nice and dark on the S10 and really light/pale on the Pixel?
Here's a capture of screen uniformity too
https://ibb.co/mcWc5Lw

superleeds27 said:
Undecided whether to keep it or not.
Grey's look really weird compared to my S10e. Nice and dark on the S10 and really light/pale on the Pixel?
Here's a capture of screen uniformity too
https://ibb.co/mcWc5Lw
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Oh wow that's really bad, is it a bug?

Shady282 said:
Oh wow that's really bad, is it a bug?
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Nope. Just the garbage Google send out

Oh wow that's quite bad, mines perfectly fine no issues screen wise

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Color saturation & accuracy

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the LG Nexus 5X's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Colors are a bit dull
Colours pop more more than the N5 and they seem fairly accurate.
Fairly accurate but a bit warm. Some people might like it though, I prefer a sharp white but it's good on the eye anyway.
Good color representation and enough color punch
I am satisfied with the color saturation and accuracy. I wouldn't want the color to be more saturated compared to amoled screen. The screen on my 5X is relaxing, there is no pressure/strain to the eyes(auto brightness is on) it just feels right!
According to Anandtech the colors and white point are spot on as far accuracy goes...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review/2
Years of over saturated colors and much too blue white points have conditioned us to think that displays should look like that
Colors seem accurate, EXCEPT for when viewing videos. Colors seem extremely muted when in a video, for instance in youtube, you might see a screenshot of a video when choosing what video to watch, but if you click it and get to the same scene, the colors will be muted in video.
CrushD said:
Colors seem accurate, EXCEPT for when viewing videos. Colors seem extremely muted when in a video, for instance in youtube, you might see a screenshot of a video when choosing what video to watch, but if you click it and get to the same scene, the colors will be muted in video.
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I'm seeing similar behaviour. Gamma looks out of whack in youtube. Blacks are totally washed out. Everything looks overexposed. Not sure if it's a software/driver issue. The display looks great otherwise. Need to try out some other video apps (kodi, mxplayer etc.) to confirm.
Edit: It is indeed a software issue. It's the difference between 16-235 vs 0-255. See this thread for more details https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3r9ftg/defective_6p_screen_vs_normal/
Also: https://productforums.google.com/fo...J0aLRo/YIFmN5jXAQAJ;context-place=forum/nexus
The youtube test fails on my n5x, but not on my n5
I'm pretty happy with it. Improved compared to the Nexus 5(which was good too). Some owners have reported a very warm/yellowish screen but luckily I'm not having that issue. I rated it a 4/5 for saturation and accuracy which is as good as possible for a LCD.
EDIT: So I just did a side by side comparison between my Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X. Side by side the Nexus 5X is noticeably warmer but it's not overly warm and honestly, coming from someone who prefers displays on the cooler side because they look more life like, I actually would give the slight edge to the Nexus 5X. But like I said that is only side by side. With each phone on its own I can't really tell either one being too warm or too cool. As far as saturation goes the Nexus 5X is better. The colors on the Nexus 5 were noticeably more washed out compared to the Nexus 5X(although not that bad). I really see it in the red of the Chrome icon, the green of the Hangouts icon and the blue of the Facebook icon. It's still not AMOLED colors but closer than the Nexus 5.
fink.nottle said:
I'm seeing similar behaviour. Gamma looks out of whack in youtube. Blacks are totally washed out. Everything looks overexposed. Not sure if it's a software/driver issue. The display looks great otherwise. Need to try out some other video apps (kodi, mxplayer etc.) to confirm.
Edit: It is indeed a software issue. It's the difference between 16-235 vs 0-255. See this thread for more details https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3r9ftg/defective_6p_screen_vs_normal/
Also: https://productforums.google.com/fo...J0aLRo/YIFmN5jXAQAJ;context-place=forum/nexus
The youtube test fails on my n5x, but not on my n5
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Does anyone know if any of the custom ROMs fix this issue? I don't see it mentioned as a feature in any of the first posts of the ROMs posted in this forum...
CrushD said:
Does anyone know if any of the custom ROMs fix this issue? I don't see it mentioned as a feature in any of the first posts of the ROMs posted in this forum...
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No, but this is a kernel bug. Someone identified the commit in the reddit thread. So you wouldn't even need an entire ROM for a fix. A kernel fix should do it. I don't have enough posts to post in the kernel forums, but you should post in the elementalx kernel thread. The dev seems to be active in developing kernels for all the nexus phones.
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EDIT: So I just did a side by side comparison between my Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X. Side by side the Nexus 5X is noticeably warmer but it's not overly warm and honestly, coming from someone who prefers displays on the cooler side because they look more life like, I actually would give the slight edge to the Nexus 5X..
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Nexus 5 has a white point of just over 7000k, the 5X is almost bang on 6500k.
Like many have said, we are just used to seeing "cooler" colours in our phones. Nexus 5X is really accurate as far as colours go.
James1o1o said:
Nexus 5 has a white point of just over 7000k, the 5X is almost bang on 6500k.
Like many have said, we are just used to seeing "cooler" colours in our phones. Nexus 5X is really accurate as far as colours go.
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That is true though some 5x are arriving with extreme yellow tints which make them look like 5000k or even warmer. Anyone who gets one of these would be 100% correct in saying the device is too yellow, unfortunately since most people are so used to cold blue screens they might not even be able to tell which they received as compared to their old device even a proper 5x panel will probably look warm.
For example this was a replacement 5x device I received on the right which went straight back to Google.
http://imgur.com/a/FyT9e
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Does anyone know if any of the custom ROMs fix this issue? I don't see it mentioned as a feature in any of the first posts of the ROMs posted in this forum...
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Im fairly certain its addressed by kernels not roms... Personally i use Flar2's elemental kernel and have since the Original N5. With his app (which im happy to support) you have full colour controls including gamma. Which you can flash over stock or custom rom depending on your preference his kernel is in the Original Development section.
Nice colours
My last phone (lg g2) was ruining my eyes. Too cool blue with strong contrast. Overtime a screen with false colors and contrast can ruin your vision - making the real world seem dull.
The Nexus 5X is correct and easier on the eyes.
Well, it seems to me that default color is pumped, like vivid, almost neonic a bit and warm. Which is good I guess for the phone. Im not planning to do any color balancing and adjustments on my phone, I would use the PC for that kind of work of course.
Unbelievable nice!

Mi Mix 2 has the most colour accurate display of all flagship in 2017 - GSMArena

https://www.gsmarena.com/top_10_phones_of_2017_best_screens-news-28627.php
The above article was published a few days ago. It compares the display quality of various flagships based on its visibility in sunlight and colour accuracy.
And our beloved Mix2 is the one with the best color accuracy, even better than iPhone X's OLED panel!
awesome
The colours on the screen are awesome. Its the best on any phone ive seen, which isnt that many of the current phones, but this article is very impressive.
Hi friends. This is one amazyng phone with great colour display... But i have some opinion...
Seems that bottom 1/3 of display is yellow, mostly on white background menu...
Is this factory faulty or problem with calibration of display ? Maybe my phone have factory faulty...
This is so ugly.
mimahitna said:
Hi friends. This is one amazyng phone with great colour display... But i have some opinion...
Seems that bottom 1/3 of display is yellow, mostly on white background menu...
Is this factory faulty or problem with calibration of display ? Maybe my phone have factory faulty...
This is so ugly.
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Seems okay to me though. Tried fiddling with the display settings?
prophet558 said:
Seems okay to me though. Tried fiddling with the display settings?
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Thank you for answer. But how...?
Greetings
mimahitna said:
Thank you for answer. But how...?
Greetings
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Go to Settings
Display
and then Color and contrast page.
There you can try changing the contrast and warmth as to your liking.
prophet558 said:
Go to Settings
Display
and then Color and contrast page.
There you can try changing the contrast and warmth as to your liking.
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I tryed this settings but no luck...
mimahitna said:
I tryed this settings but no luck...
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Since the screenshots you sent are clear, it's probable that the display panel is the issue. Many people with this issue are asked to take it to a service centre as far as I've seen on several forums. So if it's really bothering you, you must contact them.
That yellow tint is known from One Plus One days.
JDI ("feature") is obvious hardware flaw.
http://en.miui.com/thread-1392444-1-1.html
I guess it is present on every single Mix2 display, but few people can notice that easy...
Here is one from 1+1
https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/uqehla1jl9bt-jpg.37637/
Here is the official explanation of what causes that pi$$ like tint:
https://youtu.be/Ft0izZJZxb8?t=873

Pixel 4XL screen hue

Is it just me or the pixel 4XL screen has a bit of greenish-yellowish tint to it with Ambient EQ off? I'm kind of nit-picky so it's been bugging me lately.
It's a consequence of having 90hz at a lower brightness. Unless it's like that even at a higher brightness level?
Yup. I don't know why it's the 90hz cause never had this problem with my 7 pro.
I do find it is calibrated to green even in normal conditions
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Yup. I don't know why it's the 90hz cause never had this problem with my 7 pro.
I do find it is calibrated to green even in normal conditions
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Interesting, since I do see multiple reports about the same problem on the 7pro and 7t regarding green tint.
zetsumeikuro said:
Interesting, since I do see multiple reports about the same problem on the 7pro and 7t regarding green tint.
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I've seen 7t but when you look a lot them are not the same and they look more like hardware issues.
I've had the 7 pro since launch and have had the community app, XDA and Reddit which I look at regularly and I've never come across a thread about a green tint because of 90hz
At 100% brightness it looks fine, But if I dim it to 75% or lower, there's a little bit of green tint when you look at it on a white background.
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I've seen 7t but when you look a lot them are not the same and they look more like hardware issues.
I've had the 7 pro since launch and have had the community app, XDA and Reddit which I look at regularly and I've never come across a thread about a green tint because of 90hz
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Can you disable 90hz on the oneplus devices? If you can then maybe it just never occurred to them to try to disable 90hz and see if the issue still persists. It certainly didn't dawn on me until I saw someone else having the issue and they reported disabling 90hz solved the problem.
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Can you disable 90hz on the oneplus devices? If you can then maybe it just never occurred to them to try to disable 90hz and see if the issue still persists. It certainly didn't dawn on me until I saw someone else having the issue and they reported disabling 90hz solved the problem.
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Yeah you can disable it
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Yeah you can disable it
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Have any of the users tried disabling it to see if the issue goes away?
zetsumeikuro said:
Have any of the users tried disabling it to see if the issue goes away?
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Not sure. But like I said the issue looks different and more hardware when you see pictures, the sort that have plagued some batches of panels for years
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Have any of the users tried disabling it to see if the issue goes away?
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I tried disabling 90Hz. It does not correct the issue of the green hue. It is not as bad, but it is still there. What disabling 90Hz eliminates (mostly) is the red-shift that occasionally occurs.
It's doing my head in now. My screen has a green hue, really bad on Grey's, worse the dimmer it is. I can turn my screen off and on and instead of a green hue it's purple and super contrasty instead. Going to try a replacement but I'm not expecting it to be much difference as seeing same problems from other users.
The black crush in lower brightness seems to be worse than the op 7 pro too
Reuben_skelz92 said:
It's doing my head in now. My screen has a green hue, really bad on Grey's, worse the dimmer it is. I can turn my screen off and on and instead of a green hue it's purple and super contrasty instead. Going to try a replacement but I'm not expecting it to be much difference as seeing same problems from other users.
The black crush in lower brightness seems to be worse than the op 7 pro too
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Don't waste your time with a replacement i did and it's the same, Google have calibrated it like this deliberately do a search on Google. Will wait for the 5 unless they've sold even less pixels this year than last year in which case we may not a see a pixel again while that current development team is in place.
Ady1976 said:
Don't waste your time with a replacement i did and it's the same, Google have calibrated it like this deliberately do a search on Google. Will wait for the 5 unless they've sold even less pixels this year than last year in which case we may not a see a pixel again while that current development team is in place.
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Yeah they calibrated it to be warmer but not bugged Grey's etc lol
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Yeah they calibrated it to be warmer but not bugged Grey's etc lol
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I didn't even get the chance to try that i was so miffed with the yellow lol
dhorgas said:
I tried disabling 90Hz. It does not correct the issue of the green hue. It is not as bad, but it is still there. What disabling 90Hz eliminates (mostly) is the red-shift that occasionally occurs.
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Did you also turn smooth display off as well? Since as of the Nov update it kicks into 90hz at lower brightness levels now.
Pixel 4xl has very warm display. Staying next to my note 9 looks bad. Basically no whites unless 90 plus brightness.
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Did you also turn smooth display off as well? Since as of the Nov update it kicks into 90hz at lower brightness levels now.
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Yes, I did. There would not be much point in doing half a test. I’m very thorough with stuff
Hi guys I have a pixel 4 whose display shows some green spots while displaying blacks. Do you think it's burn in or it rather be the green tint that everybody talks about? Thank you very much, I don't know if I have to do a replacement or not ?
ps. if you zoom in the right corner you can see these green spots
Bondouael said:
Hi guys I have a pixel 4 whose display shows some green spots while displaying blacks. Do you think it's burn in or it rather be the green tint that everybody talks about? Thank you very much, I don't know if I have to do a replacement or not ?
ps. if you zoom in the right corner you can see these green spots
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Looks like you have some stuck pixels there in this case the green sub pixel is stuck. Could try to run a stuck pixel fixer and let it run for awhile. But honestly ,it looks like you have so many that a miracle would be required. I would just contact support and have them RMA.

Anyone else think the colours are a bit "off"? Everything seems a bit beige.

Anyone else think the colours are a bit "off"? Everything seems a bit beige.
Anyone else think the colours are a bit "off"?
Everything seems a bit beige on my Pixel 5 compared to my Pixel 3. Whites are not brilliant white.
It's like the night light feature is on constantly at a very low level - anyone else finding this?
I thought this too when receiving the phone but not sure it's an issue. I quickly got used to that and I usethe "natural" color profile. I think it was just that my previous phone (huawei) was just a bit too saturated and my eyes quickly got used to it. But yeah white seemed a bit off for me the first time, especially at low brightness level.
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Anyone else think the colours are a bit "off"?
Everything seems a bit beige on my Pixel 5 compared to my Pixel 3. Whites are not brilliant white.
It's like the night light feature is on constantly at a very low level - anyone else finding this?
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My colours are well washed out on mine got it on boosted makes no different
Yeah on my pixel 3 the natural, boosted and adaptive all seemed pretty different - on the pixel 5 I struggle to see the difference. Adaptive looks best though.
Dude! Thanks!! I really love the P5 but the colours... My whole screen looks dusty and brownish.
The contrast of the P3 is so superior I almost want to change back to the P3 again.
Does anyone have a device with a nice contrasty display?
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Yeah on my pixel 3 the natural, boosted and adaptive all seemed pretty different - on the pixel 5 I struggle to see the difference. Adaptive looks best though.
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Same with me: I come from a Pixel 2 XL which I configured for saturated mode. Obviously, it had ridiculously exaggerated colors. I too noticed the brownish touch but it look quite pleasing and natural. Although switching color modes does not make much if a difference. But yes, adaptive looks most punchy, therefore I stick with it.
Also, is there are way to turn the night light feature off permanently? I thought there was a was to do this on the pixel 3. On the pixel 5 I only see the option to turn it "off until sunset"
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Also, is there are way to turn the night light feature off permanently?
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options, nightlight, no shedule
hanni2301 said:
options, nightlight, no shedule
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Cheers. Missed that
Options --> Display --> Nightlight --> no schedule.
It's turned off for me.
But to be honest it feels as if it is still on...
I really begin to hate the display, as I thought the times of ****ty yellowish/beigeish displays is over!
And because of the colortone it even seems to be less contrasty that my P3....
I'm gonna try to do some pictures when there's some spare time in my life.
It feels like it's still on a tiny bit doesn't it. Hopefully it was a design decision by Google to make the screen more "natural" and it's not a limitation of the panel. Then they can fix it with an update.
That's true!
But the question is: is google aware of this??
It seems that just a very few people report this.
And where do I report this directly to google?
ah nice to read that. compared to my s20 ultra the screen looks incredibly awful....
I do not know what happened: Yesterday the brownish tint was clearly visible but it seems gone today. Was it a reboot? Was it the downgrade from Play Services Beta to the latest stable? I do not now. Seems to be a software issue because it is (temporarily?) gone. My best guess would be a non-working color management calibration. And if so: Software can be fixed!
I really wish you're right!
Are you sure you're not just getting used to it?
A reboot hasn't changed anything for me and I also never used the Google service beta (which I'm thinking about joining now )
sille said:
ah nice to read that. compared to my s20 ultra the screen looks incredibly awful....
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Define awful?
What's to say the S20 Ultra isn't the one that's bad? Samsung always oversaturate, even in their natural profile.

Question Selfie camera eye color sucks

iPhone seems to actually capture my eye color, pixel just gets shadows over my eyes. Does the selfie camera on this just suck? I've tested in low light and outside bright light.
Maybe go back to iphone?
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Maybe go back to iphone?
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Lmao what a reply
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Lmao what a reply
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Actually it's quite valid response. You have two phones, one you like and the other is worse at this key aspect. If it is a deal breaker...
And did not quite understand your problem. iPhone gets the color right amd Pixel give you the color of...shadow?
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Lmao what a reply
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What's wrong with it? You obviously like the iphone better.
Finneri said:
Actually it's quite valid response. You have two phones, one you like and the other is worse at this key aspect. If it is a deal breaker...
And did not quite understand your problem. iPhone gets the color right amd Pixel give you the color of...shadow?
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I think I know what he meant, basically when taking a selfie in some lighting situations, your eyes (iris) will become almost completely black. I think it looks awful and unnatural. Not sure about previous Pixels, but I've encountered this on both P6P and now P7P.
jericho246 said:
I think I know what he meant, basically when taking a selfie in some lighting situations, your eyes (iris) will become almost completely black. I think it looks awful and unnatural. Not sure about previous Pixels, but I've encountered this on both P6P and now P7P.
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Had to try it myself, can't see the problem. Took one in the bathroom with direct bright light, colors were spot on. Then I took another in very very dimly lit room with night sight, the eyes were...dark. Then I took a mirror and looked myself in that dim light and my eyes were...dark again
But yes, Pixel is known for pumped contrast in pictures and it shows a lot in selfies in low light. My eyes looked actually that dark in that light but my beard was about 25% darker than in real life. So that might be the issue here.
Not a lot to do to fix this, I'm afraid. Take your selfies in good light
Edit. To the original problem, Iphone vs Pixel, Iphone lifts the dark areas more and Pixel lefts them darker. That might include your eye sockets on a sunny day (shadows) and low light.

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