I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
duraaraa said:
I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
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This (QPST) is something I have no experience with,but,interested in the subject:
I'm good with the band support (for now) as what's available in my area,with my carrier,is supported (Bands 2 &4 on T-Mobile US,no Band 12 or 66 yet),definitely would be nice for at least Band 12,if possible,as I believe my area will get it eventually.
One side note & a positive one at that:
My MiMix locks-in on a signal & has better/stronger connections than any phone I've used to date. This was really noticeable while commuting back & forth to work today,unbelieveable signal quality.
IDK if the ceramic body is better vs other materials,but,recent flagships from HTC/Samsung/LG pale in comparison vs this phone.
i have MI MIX in hand.
I think we need MIX Diag Driver to make it recognize from pc. MI5 Diag drivers are not the same
duraaraa said:
I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
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I may have that 'xtra' mix in a few weeks, will PM you if it pans out and we can see about a software hack to open up other bands.
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wolfgart said:
i have MI MIX in hand.
I think we need MIX Diag Driver to make it recognize from pc. MI5 Diag drivers are not the same
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I've heard the Mi5 diag drivers were usable on the Mi5S, which is the same SD 821, so that's strange. What happens when you put it in diag mode and plug it in? Can I see a screenshot from device manager, or some evidence of what the device is?
duraaraa said:
I have a question for all the lucky ones of you who have a Mi Mix.
With most of the Xiaomi phones which are released, people are unhappy about the lack of band support for regions outside of China. I know many people in Europe are unhappy about not having Band 20, those of us in Japan would really like to have UMTS Band 6/19 (among others), Australians want LTE Band 28, and people in the US would like Band 12/17.
As you may know, with some phones, it's possible to unlock these bands by putting the phone into diag mode and using Qualcomm tools like QPST. Here in Japan, it was possible to enable the UMTS Bands 6 and 19 on the Mi5 and the Mi Max, but not possible on the Redmi Note 3 or the Mi5S, so it's really case by case.
Seeing as that the Mi Mix is a concept phone people are crazy about all over the world, I am very curious whether it's possible to enable LTE bands and WCMDA bands on the Mi Mix. I don't want to spend the big money to buy one without first having confidence that I can get it to work on my carrier's bands.
So I'd like to start this discussion. Has anyone tried anything? Successes, failures, please post them all!
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I've got one in hand in the states (where I actually do need to unlock band 12 for T-mobile) and a patch cable I made handy in case this thing goes brick mode from us trying stuff, I'm game to be the guinea pig for science.
Fair warning though, while I'm a web developer that's very comfy with terminal, I'm new to the android ADB world, so pretty detailed instructions / links to guides will be needed ha!
Good luck Ken, I hope you are able to crack this bad boy.
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I've got one in hand in the states (where I actually do need to unlock band 12 for T-mobile) and a patch cable I made handy in case this thing goes brick mode from us trying stuff, I'm game to be the guinea pig for science.
Fair warning though, while I'm a web developer that's very comfy with terminal, I'm new to the android ADB world, so pretty detailed instructions / links to guides will be needed ha!
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first of all I do not have the MIX/any Xiaomi device...but you could try starting here (though think you may have already or have plodded down the path much more already) good luck!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
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This (QPST) is something I have no experience with,but,interested in the subject:
I'm good with the band support (for now) as what's available in my area,with my carrier,is supported (Bands 2 &4 on T-Mobile US,no Band 12 or 66 yet),definitely would be nice for at least Band 12,if possible,as I believe my area will get it eventually.
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Is that band 4 only on LTE? I've seen many spec sheets and the carrier I'm on only has band 4 for 3g.
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Is that band 4 only on LTE? I've seen many spec sheets and the carrier I'm on only has band 4 for 3g.
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this is what I have gathered from various sources (so yes Band 4 is both LTE and 3g)
Tmobile
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
Lower 700 MHz band 12
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
ATT
AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands
LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz),
Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
LTE B29 (700)
LTE B30 (2300 WCS)
mac231us said:
this is what I have gathered from various sources (so yes Band 4 is both LTE and 3g)
Tmobile
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
Lower 700 MHz band 12
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
ATT
AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands
LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz),
Band 4(1700/2100Mhz)
LTE B29 (700)
LTE B30 (2300 WCS)
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That still doesn't mean the WCDMA Band 4 is enabled. It's possible to have LTE band 4 and not have WCDMA Band 4.
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That still doesn't mean the WCDMA Band 4 is enabled. It's possible to have LTE band 4 and not have WCDMA Band 4.
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Yes....was just giving the bands and frequencies I know for two GSM carriers in the US. Monitoring the bands at various locations by something like signal check lite (much easier to use/read than lte discovery IMO) would be only way to tell.. If I recall correctly this device has 3g at 850,900,1800,1900 so there is no band 4 on 3g it seems... Although band 4 (1700/2100) COULD be a 3g band too for some devices. Someone with better knowledge can chime in here. I might be wrong.
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krazyken04 said:
I've got one in hand in the states (where I actually do need to unlock band 12 for T-mobile) and a patch cable I made handy in case this thing goes brick mode from us trying stuff, I'm game to be the guinea pig for science.
Fair warning though, while I'm a web developer that's very comfy with terminal, I'm new to the android ADB world, so pretty detailed instructions / links to guides will be needed ha!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
any luck so far? Thanks
mac231us said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
any luck so far? Thanks
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Update: I have actually successfully forced band twelve with NV values (I can see it stick and unwind the value to see that band 12 is allowed after a reboot). I followed about 10 diff guides to get my bearing on working with the Qualcomm editors and maintenance programs.
Sad to say: the modem in the Mix simply won't do band 12. I talked with a few folks from the Xiaomi Reddit Discord and they confirmed my suspicions that with Xiaomi (with a few exceptions) it is usually hardware that's keeping you off of a band.
I don't personally think there's any amount of software hackery we can do to get bands unlocked.
Edit: I am quite comfortable in ADB / SU and am happy to try any and all suggestions out on my phone in addition to what I've tried already btw. Please do let me know if there's something you think I may have missed following the various unlock threads.
krazyken04 said:
Update: I have actually successfully forced band twelve with NV values (I can see it stick and unwind the value to see that band 12 is allowed after a reboot). I followed about 10 diff guides to get my bearing on working with the Qualcomm editors and maintenance programs.
Sad to say: the modem in the Mix simply won't do band 12. I talked with a few folks from the Xiaomi Reddit Discord and they confirmed my suspicions that with Xiaomi (with a few exceptions) it is usually hardware that's keeping you off of a band.
I don't personally think there's any amount of software hackery we can do to get bands unlocked.
Edit: I am quite comfortable in ADB / SU and am happy to try any and all suggestions out on my phone in addition to what I've tried already btw. Please do let me know if there's something you think I may have missed following the various unlock threads.
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Sorry to hear that the band could not be tapped into...
yes most likely a hardware thing-like Samsung (some of their models exclusively for Latin america have u.s bands but the 'international' variants of the same models will not do the U.S bands no matter what...
I actually opened one of them (got a damaged T239M) and found indeed that the motherboard is different...(so much speculation and folks asking/trying to flash S. American firmware on like the T705, T239 etc, myself included (not possible anyway even if going through TWRP and flashing modem files etc...bootloader and pit all different..so nothing would change with the other parts of the firmware)
so it is highly likely in this case that the modem will not do bands 12, 17 (ATT) and 29, 30 (ATT). However, it is impressive that for a China phone this will even do bands 2, 4 and 5. Huawei models (again supposedly international) except for some variants of the smaller 5-5.2 inch models (not p9, p8, P8 max, x2, t3, t3 pro, or m3 (some of these are the tablet phone types) and numerous other Chinese phones will not do anything more than 1, 3, 7 and then maybe 8 and 20 or a 28. (all useless for North America). Huawei has an M2 variant that has US bands and also on their smaller phones (certain versions)
so for the Mix, you at least have LTE 2, 4 and 5 (though of lesser importance).
krazyken04 said:
Update: I have actually successfully forced band twelve with NV values (I can see it stick and unwind the value to see that band 12 is allowed after a reboot). I followed about 10 diff guides to get my bearing on working with the Qualcomm editors and maintenance programs.
Sad to say: the modem in the Mix simply won't do band 12. I talked with a few folks from the Xiaomi Reddit Discord and they confirmed my suspicions that with Xiaomi (with a few exceptions) it is usually hardware that's keeping you off of a band.
I don't personally think there's any amount of software hackery we can do to get bands unlocked.
Edit: I am quite comfortable in ADB / SU and am happy to try any and all suggestions out on my phone in addition to what I've tried already btw. Please do let me know if there's something you think I may have missed following the various unlock threads.
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can you make a detailed guide with all steps and stuff to enable desidered band ? If not works is the same ...
would like to see if LTE Band 20 can be unlocked
wolfgart said:
can you make a detailed guide with all steps and stuff to enable desidered band ? If not works is the same ...
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I would love to, it's the first thought I had when both starting a new guide and when I finished getting the phone to look for band 12.
I'm currently _buried_ in a project for work right now (it's taking my nights and a lot of sleep from me ha), so nothing soon. But it's on my list of first contributions I'd like to make to this awesome community!
Would you be able to try Band 20 ?
Thanks
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I would love to, it's the first thought I had when both starting a new guide and when I finished getting the phone to look for band 12.
I'm currently _buried_ in a project for work right now (it's taking my nights and a lot of sleep from me ha), so nothing soon. But it's on my list of first contributions I'd like to make to this awesome community!
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tarkuk said:
would like to see if LTE Band 20 can be unlocked
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So far my experience is that if the band isn't listed in those spec sheet it isn't there in the hardware (apparently a very Xiaomi thing to do). I'm finding that they rarely software lock you out of the bands, it's usually that their hardware simply doesn't support the band.
Hello friends, it's been a while since someone posed the question below. I just bought a K20 Pro (China Version) from Aliexpress and only found out about the limitations of LTE bands. I was wondering if there is now a workaround to add LTE bands with a newer version QPST or another workaround/hack? If that, could we expect something in the future or am I pretty much toast?
You are toast. Time to buy a phone that's got all the bands you need. I'm in the same spot I need to give up on these POS international phone with almost 0 LTE bands for the USA.
954wrecker said:
You are toast. Time to buy a phone that's got all the bands you need. I'm in the same spot I need to give up on these POS international phone with almost 0 LTE bands for the USA.
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I hope at some point there will be a hack, like there has been in the past. where are the geniuses on this forum ?
It's not about geniusness, it's utterly time wasting and requires a hell lot of effort which in the end doesn't guarantee it will unlock the bands, so next time get a phone with your required bands.
Sent from my Redmi K20 Pro using Tapatalk
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Hello friends, it's been a while since someone posed the question below. I just bought a K20 Pro (China Version) from Aliexpress and only found out about the limitations of LTE bands. I was wondering if there is now a workaround to add LTE bands with a newer version QPST or another workaround/hack? If that, could we expect something in the future or am I pretty much toast?
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I seen people talking about how to do it on LO17 thread
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I seen people talking about how to do it on LO17 thread
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Didn't find any mention of adding LTE bands in the LOS thread. Can you point me in the right direction with a post number or page number?
I'm referring to the comments around the end of the first page on this thread (also continues to page 2)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/development/rom-lineageos-17-0-t3976469
I also found this, which seems pretty much what we need
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-qualcomm-nv-calculator-adding-2g-3g-t2915649
**** these international phones I'm tired of them not having the bands we use in the USA activated. My mix 3 had every single LTE band and this K20 pro has 1 ****ty band. Why can't every phone have every band that people use in the world, is it really that hard?
954wrecker said:
**** these international phones I'm tired of them not having the bands we use in the USA activated. My mix 3 had every single LTE band and this K20 pro has 1 ****ty band. Why can't every phone have every band that people use in the world, is it really that hard?
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If you look at the OnePlus 7 Pro bands you can see that it's easy, but brands don't want to do that for profits of selling a new phone when someone moves to a different country and so on, however I am not too sure why xiaomi doesn't have all bands enabled on the global version of the phone like OnePlus, I would understand locking the CN and Indian version, but the global should have all bands enabled
Engineer code qualcomm 855
Unfortunately, even if I've bought a MI9 T pro , described with correct bands & charger (need 4G B20 & B28) ; they send me a Redmi K20 pro with chinese plug... I opened a dispute but it drags on and I'm afraid of not having a commercial solution. So If someone did find a technical one ; I'd be very glad !
I saw some old techniques on Youtube, none of them works ; nor engineering codes (#*#*...) Is there a way to know them ? Thank you !
Good luck, but it's almost improbable, Even Pocophone failed.
Sent from my Redmi K20 Pro using Tapatalk
network signal guru which is available in play store with that can change bands of LTE but root access is must
leothomas2580 said:
network signal guru which is available in play store with that can change bands of LTE but root access is must
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It won't work, if it was that easy it would be miracles, have you tried?
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ishaqtkr said:
It won't work, if it was that easy it would be miracles, have you tried?
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Right now I'm using custom rom(evolution x) on my Redmi k20 pro/mi9 t pro didn't tried on Chinese rom
but the bands works using network signal guru
leothomas2580 said:
Right now I'm using custom rom(evolution x) on my Redmi k20 pro/mi9 t pro didn't tried on Chinese rom
but the bands works using network signal guru
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This from the Network Signal Guru FAQs
Can you changed the band capacities of my cell phone. My cell phones are from other countries and the band capabilities are not so good, and I want more band support. Could NSG do that?
NSG cannot provide this kind of feature and we don't change the band capabilities. It's different among different phones, so it's dangerous and once failed, you will lose all of the band capabilities of certain radio technology. And it's very difficult to recover.
So, no it's not possible to unlock the bands.
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This from the Network Signal Guru FAQs
Can you changed the band capacities of my cell phone. My cell phones are from other countries and the band capabilities are not so good, and I want more band support. Could NSG do that?
NSG cannot provide this kind of feature and we don't change the band capabilities. It's different among different phones, so it's dangerous and once failed, you will lose all of the band capabilities of certain radio technology. And it's very difficult to recover.
So, no it's not possible to unlock the bands.
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I knew it, if it was as easy as using an app everyone would import phones from China and modify lol
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I knew it, if it was as easy as using an app everyone would import phones from China and modify lol
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Okay thank you
It's likely the bands are "hardware locked".
So depending on the region of the device various bands will be enabled or disabled. Every region of the device might well have the same modem - and that modem might support all the bands you want - but they won't work and there'll be no way of getting them to work as it'll be on a hardware-level.
It's why when you flash a Global ROM to a Chinese handset bands don't appear and vice versa. Both region ROMs will have their respective modern firmware but that doesn't change what bands you get - which would imply its literally hard-coded into the modem itself.
What I've read on the pocophone implies the band programming is locked, read-only, unmodifiable.
every site i check says mi phone can use lte in my country but i cant connect to it on my phone .... what do i do??
Hello everybody!
I have bought an unlocked VZW S10 5G from the US and I'm using it in Spain with Movistar as a carrier.
I have a big permanent question on my mind and I can't seem to find a right answer to it anywhere on the web.
As far as I know, the modem this phone has is the Qualcomm X50 modem, which is supposed to be for both Sub6 and mmWave bands (https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-x50-5g-modem). Nevertheless, Samsung only lists mmWave frequencies on their specs page (see specs at the end of the page https://www.samsung.com/us/business/support/owners/product/galaxy-s10-5g-verizon/)
I know that here in Europe we are not deploying 5G the same way it has been done in the US, since the bands that are becoming available are Sub6.
Eventhough it's currently poorly deployed here in Spain, the only band that is available at the moment is the one at 3500 MHz (n78, I think). I've read they'll soon make the band at 700 MHz available, too.
When using the Samsung Selection app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.samsungbandselection), I only see the bands n260 and n261, which I know are the available mmWave bands in the US, and the B bands that are used for 4G/LTE and previous.
My questions are the following:
1. Will I ever be able to connect to 5G through some LTE bands or won't that be possible?
2. Could it be that Verizon has disabled the sub6 bands for this phone via SW?
3. Could I use B bands at the same frequency instead? For example, the b42 band, which is also at 3500 MHz, is not listed, but maybe in the near future when the 700 MHz band gets released, will I be able to use the the b12 band, which is also 700 MHz?
I would appreciate any contributions you could make!
Thanks a lot in advance!
1. No you can't use 5G in Spain with this phone because it doesn't support 5G band n78.
2. Modems are configured by Qualcomm and you can't just modify these because these are signed.
3. No you can't really...
Also good check basic Carrier Aggregation combination support by this device. If you like Contribute my site cacombos.com/contribute your device QMDL log with scat I like to add this device to site.
But my advise if you like have 5G in Spain, then you need European version of Samsung phone.
Hi guys, I have the cn version of Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra and I enabled 5g preferred in the settings, my friend with an iPhone gets better speeds than me, and we both use a sim from the same company, do you happen to know why he gets Carrier aggregation and I don't? I am also using Xiaomi EU stable custom rom, and it is very annoying that my phone is working slower, much help will be appreciated thank you very much!
The China model has these 5G bands:
5G ：n1 / n3 / n28 / n41 / n77 / n78 / n79
Compare these bands with iPhone bands, maybe iPhone has more.
Band support is not everything, good compare Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity combinations and check device support all used by your network.
You can check these via https://cacombos.com website.