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Reason for the stuttering?

Hello everyone.
I have a little theory on scrolling lag on our XZ.
After browsing XDA for a while using Tapatalk 4 Beta, i've noticed something. Scrolling through a long thread only having text is no problem. There is no/barely stuttering. That made me observe the behaviour a while. If there's images, the device starts to break down. Scrolling suddenly gets slow and stuttering because pictures are not loading fast enough. It's not just tapatalk. Hell it's even the play store. I can scroll to the bottom of the front page without every seeing any pictures, they are simply loading too slow (causing the device to lag). I've tried youtube and a few other apps, same case.
This is happening on all roms. No matter what i've tried. Every stock rom (from .350 to .423), every CM / AOSP based rom. The result is always the same. Now why is it that images load so slow? It can't be my internet. I'm on wifi and my internet connection is more than fine as you can tell from the picture :
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Does anyone have a clue how to resolve this issue? Or maybe atleast confirm my theory?
I've found some tweaks, i will try them later and see if they do any good (which i doubt, because most of the are bull****).
I'm using PAC Custom 0724
Clock Speeds : 384 - 1512
IO : Row
Governor : Interactive
Class 10 Sandisk SD
Please report if you are experiencing the same, or have any opinion on this matter.

Yeah, I used a HTC one recently and there is no such lag there. So I'd like to know how to fix this too. (the HTC one was at a store)

You can fix it by editing framework.jar and disabling scrolling cache.
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gm007 said:
You can fix it by editing framework.jar and disabling scrolling cache.
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I have no idea how this is done but i'll look into it THX for the advice
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ckyy said:
I have no idea how this is done but i'll look into it THX for the advice
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There is lot of tutorials here in xda just search for smooth scrolling mod.
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Another (well easier & safer) solution could be just add this one line in build.prop:
persist.sys.scrollingcache=4
(1=cache always on // 2=cache on many times // 3=cache off many times // 4=cache always off)
Reboot and wait 4 minutes.

Andre Verissimo said:
Another (well easier & safer) solution could be just add this one line in build.prop:
persist.sys.scrollingcache=4
(1=cache always on // 2=cache on many times // 3=cache off many times // 4=cache always off)
Reboot and wait 4 minutes.
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Can someone confirm this really works?lol

joejoe23 said:
Can someone confirm this really works?lol
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I'm trying it. Will report tomorrow after some heavy usage.

ckyy said:
I'm trying it. Will report tomorrow after some heavy usage.
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Maybe you wish also add the following lines, after backup the original build.prop:
debug.performance.tuning=1
video.accelerate.hw=1
ro.min_pointer_dur=1
Finally, where is written:
debug.composition.type=dyn
You could change it to:
debug.composition.type=gpu (but this last change perhaps isn't ideal for some apps, and maybe it uses more battery than the default "dyn" option).
Keep in mind that a butter experience is a goal very difficult to achieve. I think that one reason why many users prefer some other launchers is that stock launcher is one of the few ones that support Sony advanced (and heavy) widgets. More heavy widgets (I'm sad to admit it) means more lags.

i get scrolling lag in settings lol.
also, if scrolling cache enabled messes with the smoothness of scrolling, why did the manufacturer enable it by default?
my understanding is having cache enabled will consume more RAM, but allows smoother scrolling?
just a bit confused because i have read a lot of different things

spazzy1912 said:
i get scrolling lag in settings lol.
also, if scrolling cache enabled messes with the smoothness of scrolling, why did the manufacturer enable it by default?
my understanding is having cache enabled will consume more RAM, but allows smoother scrolling?
just a bit confused because i have read a lot of different things
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Sorry to say that, but I'm restoring the original stock. I've tried many, many mods in build.prop, and although I saw some improvements, they're little ones, so I'll wait for the smoother Android 4.3 and its 1080p full support (with faster redraw and OpenGl ES 3.0).

Graphic errors in Chrome

Hi everybody,
I have strange graphic errors in Chrome - sometimes, I see black squares:
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Does not happen with other browsers. Anyone else experiencing this?
Cheers,
NM
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Thankfully, no... I haven't
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No Chrome issues here. I used Chrome exclusively today to make sure.

Chrome installed right after i synched Smartphone and Tablet, so im using Chrome since i have the Tablet, and i never had any issues with it. Maybe reinstall?( or are there maybe flash objects supposed to be at that place?)

I have the same issues. I usually will reboot when I start seeing that.
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It might be the case that it only occurs on some websites, but the squares move, so it can't simply be the case that it's there should be flash content. I'll try figuring our whether there's a pattern...
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I can confirm this problem, does happen on tagesschau.de for example. Maybe it's a problem with the german language version? There is also a bug in the german keyboard layout of the ASUS onscreen keyboard, it does show comma (,) and full stop (.) twice. In the english layout there's a ? and a ! instead. Seems to me that Asus did not do much testing with international versions...

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I can confirm this problem, does happen on tagesschau.de for example. Maybe it's a problem with the german language version? There is also a bug in the german keyboard layout of the ASUS onscreen keyboard, it does show comma (,) and full stop (.) twice. In the english layout there's a ? and a ! instead. Seems to me that Asus did not do much testing with international versions...
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strange,i also have the german version and it never occured to me.That (,) and (.) thing is correct,but did you try pressing it? it happened to us that my wife wanted to type the (.) but when you press the bottom (.) , a (?) came out every time

Nixus_Maximus said:
Hi everybody,
I have strange graphic errors in Chrome - sometimes, I see black squares:
Does not happen with other browsers. Anyone else experiencing this?
Cheers,
NM
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Does it make any difference if you check or uncheck the "show desktop site" box in the settings menu? I would also suggest clearing out chrome's cookies, history, temp files, etc. If that doesn't fix it, clear data and cache for chrome. If that doesn't work, Uninstall and reinstall Chrome.

I've performed a cold reboot for another reason (wakeup delay) I read somewhere else here in the forum, since then the squares did not reappear. Curious if it will remain like this. If not I'll try your suggestions!
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Cold boot! Yeah!
Nixus_Maximus said:
I've performed a cold reboot for another reason (wakeup delay) I read somewhere else here in the forum, since then the squares did not reappear. Curious if it will remain like this. If not I'll try your suggestions!
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I performed the cold boot for the same reason and now I don't remember if I did the boot before or after I tested Chrome for you... So, yeah, could be the cold boot fixed that as well as the wake-up delay (which has NOT come back, by the way.) Thanks again to whomever it was suggested that cold boot - I'm too lazy to go back and find the thread so I can thank the poster properly. I did, however, click the Thanks button.

Hi, I had the same problem but it seems it disappeared with FW update.
I am running 10.26.1.7 now.
But due to incorrect FW pushed OTA by ASUS I had to wipe the device so I can`t be sure. Anyway I have the same apps as before so I think it was FW issue...
Nixus_Maximus said:
Hi everybody,
I have strange graphic errors in Chrome - sometimes, I see black squares:
Does not happen with other browsers. Anyone else experiencing this?
Cheers,
NM
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I've got these black squares on my Samsung S3 with Dolphin browers too sometimes.

ThaDoc said:
I've got these black squares on my Samsung S3 with Dolphin browers too sometimes.
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After rebooting the TF701 those black squares are gone. To me it looks like a problem with HTML 5 Video or animated GIFs, because at the xda homepage especially showed this issue.

Kashban said:
After rebooting the TF701 those black squares are gone. To me it looks like a problem with HTML 5 Video or animated GIFs, because at the xda homepage especially showed this issue.
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I had these too before the bogus OTA update, which I then had to wipe and not had it since. Seemed to happen on any websites I was on but happened randomly.

[BATTERY] Post your Galaxy S5 stats!

THIS THREAD IS DEDICATED TO YOUR AND REVIEW BATTERY RESULTS
Smartphone Bulgaria posted it's S5 review and battery stats, and it's VERY promising.
Source of these images: http://news.smartphone.bg/review/revyu-na-samsung-galaxy-s5-noviyat-vodach-na-smartfon-pazara/
Talk time on 3G is topping smartphone.bg's charts at 25 hours
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Internet browsing (10,5hrs) is a tad behind the efficient iPhone 5S, but FAR ahead even the Note 3
3D gaming is also topping the charts (4,6hrs)
The Galaxy S5 is now smartphone.bg's endurance champion

Damn, impressed!
Specially considering that amount of browsing time on an AMOLED screen. I think movie playback will be even higher due to AMOLED advantages.

The same was with note 2 on 4.1.1. Great battery life with 7-8h screen time and now with new updates i have 4h screen max with the same apps. So don't be so optimistic.
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SkoreK89 said:
The same was with note 2 on 4.1.1. Great battery life with 7-8h screen time and now with new updates i have 4h screen max with the same apps. So don't be so optimistic.
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Under my experience on the Nexus 4, KitKat is great for consistent battery performance.

How can it be better than Note 3, I am confused.

sohebq said:
How can it be better than Note 3, I am confused.
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Could be many things, the better screen : battery ratio, fresher SoC, Android / TouchWiz version, improved radios, heat management, screen tech... but wait and see for other results.

sohebq said:
How can it be better than Note 3, I am confused.
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BoneXDA said:
Could be many things, the better screen : battery ratio, fresher SoC, Android / TouchWiz version, improved radios, heat management, screen tech... but wait and see for other results.
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I'm quite sure it's related to this: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...e-to-Lucid-Logics-battery-saving-tech_id53325
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Here is a video playback test done by Eldar Murtazin at 100% brightness.
Source: https://mobile.twitter.com/eldarmu...2371487744/photo/1?screen_name=eldarmurtazin
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Wtf, I feel sorry for Crapple 5s.
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BoneXDA said:
Could be many things, the better screen : battery ratio, fresher SoC, Android / TouchWiz version, improved radios, heat management, screen tech... but wait and see for other results.
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Smaller screen compared to note 3 is also a factor.

sohebq said:
Smaller screen compared to note 3 is also a factor.
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Not at all. It has the same number of pixels and also AMOLED has no backlight.

slimepots said:
I think movie playback will be even higher due to AMOLED advantages.
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Video playback continued 557 minutes, which is equivalent to about 9 hours and 17 minutes
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For Galaxy S4 (review from same site):
The capacity of the battery is depleted after 230 minutes (3 hours and 50 minutes)
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Source: http://news.smartphone.bg/review/samsung-galaxy-s4-podrobni-testove-i-analiz-na-bateriyata/
Web browsing / Talktime / 3D game

Wow really impressive. Atleast thats One extremely solid reason to upgrade.
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Some comments on battery life here:

SkoreK89 said:
The same was with note 2 on 4.1.1. Great battery life with 7-8h screen time and now with new updates i have 4h screen max with the same apps. So don't be so optimistic.
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So true. 4.1.1 gave the best battery life, 4.1.2 a litterateur le bit worse but still very good, but 4.3 is disaster. Battery drains so hard even no wakelock! So I had to rollback to 4.1.2 with my lovely Perseus kernel. Hope a change in Kitkat update.

BoneXDA said:
Some comments on battery life here:
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I watched this video but I can't take his findings seriously as all the battery stats he showed weren't accurate representations. He didnt charge the device to 100% and then he re-charged it as some random time not allowing the stats to reset.
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msavic6 said:
I watched this video but I can't take his findings seriously as all the battery stats he showed weren't accurate representations. He didnt charge the device to 100% and then he re-charged it as some random time not allowing the stats to reset.
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I'll try to get better, but don't worry, the phone is released soon, and the @community will contribute. :good:

BoneXDA said:
I'll try to get better, but don't worry, the phone is released soon, and the @community will contribute. :good:
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Im confused, Is that your YouTube channel?
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msavic6 said:
Im confused, Is that your YouTube channel?
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No.

system.img said:
Not at all. It has the same number of pixels and also AMOLED has no backlight.
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oh i thought larger screens use more battery because larger pixels takes more power to turn on? :S

Antutu Scores

Post your Benchmark Score.
My with 124
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salva111549 said:
Post your Benchmark Score.
My with 124
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I'm on 113 massive difference in performance

mancuk29 said:
I'm on 113 massive difference in performance
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You have to turn on performance mode
Quite good on the 124

JJay666 said:
You have to turn on performance mode
Quite good on the 124
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How do you do that??

mancuk29 said:
How do you do that??
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Found it that's better not quite as fast as 124 but more happy however coming from. IPhone love the phone and it's smooth and love the freedom of android

mancuk29 said:
Found it that's better not quite as fast as 124 but more happy however coming from. IPhone love the phone and it's smooth and love the freedom of android
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Updated to 124

Performance mode on. Haven't clean recent apps.

mancuk29 said:
Found it that's better not quite as fast as 124 but more happy however coming from. IPhone love the phone and it's smooth and love the freedom of android
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Hi, i am not sure if I found it as you did, maybe because I am on Danish. But could that be the right place i found??

qrtnielsen said:
Hi, i am not sure if I found it as you did, maybe because I am on Danish. But could that be the right place i found??
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No, its in the Optimizer, battery settings

JJay666 said:
No, its in the Optimizer, battery settings
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Hi, I could not find anything about Optimizer in the battery setting, so i wonder if I could pursuate you to send me a screen shot ??
Thanks Kurt

qrtnielsen said:
Hi, I could not find anything about Optimizer in the battery setting, so i wonder if I could pursuate you to send me a screen shot ??
Thanks Kurt
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Go to battery in settings
It's at the top

mancuk29 said:
Go to battery in settings
It's at the top
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Hi JJ, thanks a bunch, it certaintly helped a lot on Antutu benchmark
I believe that I am close to other, so no problem here:good:

My new best
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These are the scores from my Huawei P30 Pro (VOG-L29) with the brand new EMUI 10.0.0 (Android 10, stable).
Overall, it became better - faster, smoother and camera quality has been improved even more!
Finally, the new EMUI's design is more beautiful - aesthetics absolutely gorgeous!
Excellent work from Huawei ????
??
☀ Sent from SUN

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These are the scores from my Huawei P30 Pro (VOG-L29) with the brand new EMUI 10.0.0 (Android 10, stable).
Overall, it became better - faster, smoother and camera quality has been improved even more!
Finally, the new EMUI's design is more beautiful - aesthetics absolutely gorgeous!
Excellent work from Huawei ??
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HI,
You are right that the P30 pro (VOG-L29) has developed into a splendid phone, it took only 3/4 of a year
My results are a bit lower than yours, but still very fast when I compare to my earlier Huawei phones, maybe because you use a newer Antutu version:

AnTuTu 8.0.4-OB benchmark comparison between the previous EMUI 9.1.0 and the current EMUI 10.0.0 on my Huawei VOG-L29
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LG G8s android 10

Just got android 10 update notification on my gfs and my deu g8s eaw yesterday.
Let's see how it is

ugly

Well seems decent for now. Still bad geekbench scores ^ ^. But looks and works better than the android 10 update on the g7 thinq.

crnkoj said:
Well seems decent for now. Still bad geekbench scores ^ ^. But looks and works better than the android 10 update on the g7 thinq.
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Geekbench is pointless... And what kind of scores do you mean by "bad"?

Worse than the average sd855 phones but that's kind of known.

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Worse than the average sd855 phones but that's kind of known.
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Yes, because LG throttles the processor a little under heavy load so that the device does not heat up too much...[emoji6]
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Roger.T said:
Yes, because LG throttles the processor a little under heavy load so that the device does not heat up too much...[emoji6]
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Yeah I know. Just stating the obvious ^ ^ it's not like the phone would be slow. Works much better/more fluid than the g7 thinq I have and just 845 vs 855. Liking the Android 10 update on the g8s.

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Yeah I know. Just stating the obvious ^ ^ it's not like the phone would be slow. Works much better/more fluid than the g7 thinq I have and just 845 vs 855. Liking the Android 10 update on the g8s.
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Yup. With the update to Android 10, the device runs much smoother.
I am very happy with it [emoji106][emoji41]
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I'm a bit disappointed, because qslide is gone.
I saw on reddit, that people recommended some alternatives, but honestly i don't have any idea what are they talking about.
And another thing, when i have active AOD, screen is kinda greenish, on andorid 9 was barely visible, but on 10 is glowing AF, so i had to turn it off.

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I'm a bit disappointed, because qslide is gone.
I saw on reddit, that people recommended some alternatives, but honestly i don't have any idea what are they talking about.
And another thing, when i have active AOD, screen is kinda greenish, on andorid 9 was barely visible, but on 10 is glowing AF, so i had to turn it off.
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There is an alternative in the Recents Menu..
If you press the app icon in the upper left corner for a long time, a menu appears.
Select the popup window and there it is again...[emoji6]
It's moveable and you can resize it to a floating icon.
The only thing that no longer works is to adjust the transparency...
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Manz, gotta say it really works great! Battery life got even better and the experience is much smoother.
Only issue I seem to have is, that if I touch near the top end of the screen (near the cameras) , it often misinterprets the touch and starts to slide down the notification bar.... Haven't experienced this before.

crnkoj said:
Manz, gotta say it really works great! Battery life got even better and the experience is much smoother.
Only issue I seem to have is, that if I touch near the top end of the screen (near the cameras) , it often misinterprets the touch and starts to slide down the notification bar.... Haven't experienced this before.
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This is an Android 10 feature...[emoji6]
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Weird feature, makes the top part of the screen useless, can't say the g7 with Android 10 has this bug either... Even though it has a similar cutout...
Might know where to post this on LG support as a bug?

crnkoj said:
Weird feature, makes the top part of the screen useless, can't say the g7 with Android 10 has this bug either... Even though it has a similar cutout...
Might know where to post this on LG support as a bug?
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That comes from Google..
I have that on all devices with or without a notch...[emoji6]
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Roger.T said:
That comes from Google..
I have that on all devices with or without a notch...[emoji6]
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But I said that in my g7 with Android 10 this is not an issue. It works as before, as expected. Not like this joke here. But yeah the g7 has several other bugs...