Hi all,
I'm currently running LineageOS 16.0 on my OnePlus 3T on the Three UK network and was wondering if anyone out there has managed to get native WiFi calling working in a setup like this?
I get zero mobile reception at my work so for over a year now have been using the Three inTouch WiFi calling app which has been pretty good, however last week I received a message saying that due to upcoming network upgrades Three will be retiring the app in a month or two so I now would like to be able to use Android's native WiFi calling if this is at all possible.
Three's website says that WiFi calling is only supported on Android on handsets purchased from them on contract, however I'm a SIM-only customer. I've got the latest OxygenOS modem firmware etc. installed as far as I'm aware, so was wondering if any of you clever people here on XDA have managed to find any unofficial ways of getting the native WiFi calling working for any old network?
t_r_davies said:
Hi all,
I'm currently running LineageOS 16.0 on my OnePlus 3T on the Three UK network and was wondering if anyone out there has managed to get native WiFi calling working in a setup like this?
I get zero mobile reception at my work so for over a year now have been using the Three inTouch WiFi calling app which has been pretty good, however last week I received a message saying that due to upcoming network upgrades Three will be retiring the app in a month or two so I now would like to be able to use Android's native WiFi calling if this is at all possible.
Three's website says that WiFi calling is only supported on Android on handsets purchased from them on contract, however I'm a SIM-only customer. I've got the latest OxygenOS modem firmware etc. installed as far as I'm aware, so was wondering if any of you clever people here on XDA have managed to find any unofficial ways of getting the native WiFi calling working for any old network?
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Wifi calling is working out of the box for me. VoLTE too*. (LOS+3+SIM only+OP3/T) Been working with that setup since the beginning of LOS16.
*With 3 you'll only connect to VoLTE when 3G is unavailable as they prioritise in that order. For some reason they don't like people to use 'Super Voice', even though they advertise it as a feature. There's a big thread on the Digital Spy forum covering 3 and 4G in the UK that you might find useful.
Edit: Try the field test number. Enter *#*#4636#*#* in the Dialer. Is Wifi Calling 'Provisioned'. See my own screenshot:
On my stock op3t there is no WiFi calling toggle to switch on. That probably explains why I don't have it despite being able to switch it on under enhanced communications under sim settings.
Is there a way to activate it? The volte calling I got by doing a code thing.
Dirk said:
Edit: Try the field test number. Enter *#*#4636#*#* in the Dialer. Is Wifi Calling 'Provisioned'. See my own screenshot:
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Yes the "Wi-Fi Calling provisioned" toggle is on.
I've just upgraded to the latest LOS 16.0 nightly (2019-05-02) but still no sign of the native Wi-Fi calling working.
You said you've had it working since the start of LOS 16.0. I upgraded to 16.0 over-the-top directly from 15.1, do you think that could have anything to do with it?
Are there any settings in the SIM itself which could be needed to enable Wi-Fi calling? I think my SIM is a good 3 years old or so, would swapping it for a newer one be any use do you think?
t_r_davies said:
Yes the "Wi-Fi Calling provisioned" toggle is on.
I've just upgraded to the latest LOS 16.0 nightly (2019-05-02) but still no sign of the native Wi-Fi calling working.
You said you've had it working since the start of LOS 16.0. I upgraded to 16.0 over-the-top directly from 15.1, do you think that could have anything to do with it?
Are there any settings in the SIM itself which could be needed to enable Wi-Fi calling? I think my SIM is a good 3 years old or so, would swapping it for a newer one be any use do you think?
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What exactly are you doing to test that it's working or not? Have you made a call with Wifi on/Mobile signal absent?
Is there anything particularly unusual or unique about the Wifi network you've been trying this with? Have you tried other Wifi networks?
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Wifi calling is working out of the box for me. VoLTE too*. (LOS+3+SIM only+OP3/T) Been working with that setup since the beginning of LOS16.
*With 3 you'll only connect to VoLTE when 3G is unavailable as they prioritise in that order. For some reason they don't like people to use 'Super Voice', even though they advertise it as a feature. There's a big thread on the Digital Spy forum covering 3 and 4G in the UK that you might find useful.
Edit: Try the field test number. Enter *#*#4636#*#* in the Dialer. Is Wifi Calling 'Provisioned'. See my own screenshot:
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I've finally managed to get lineage 16 installed on my phone but I still can't get WiFi calling with my three sim card. The settings seems to be the same as yours. Not do I have the icons for WiFi calling or wokte at the top of the screen which I had with oos 9.0.6.
Eggstones said:
I've finally managed to get lineage 16 installed on my phone but I still can't get WiFi calling with my three sim card. The settings seems to be the same as yours. Not do I have the icons for WiFi calling or wokte at the top of the screen which I had with oos 9.0.6.
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My flawed testing. I'd forgotten about this thread. VoWifi is a no go. VoLTE works, but with Three caveats. See what i posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82157113&postcount=517
Dirk said:
My flawed testing. I'd forgotten about this thread. VoWifi is a no go. VoLTE works, but with Three caveats. See what i posted here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82157113&postcount=517
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Thanks for the update. I better get a new phone soon despite mine works fine outside my home (were I am now locked away for the foreseeable future).
Saw something about a volte wowifi module on one of the android ten ROMs but not sure if it just enabled volte. Thing it was the havoc ROM
Eggstones said:
Thanks for the update. I better get a new phone soon despite mine works fine outside my home (were I am now locked away for the foreseeable future).
Saw something about a volte wowifi module on one of the android ten ROMs but not sure if it just enabled volte. Thing it was the havoc ROM
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Have you seen this? https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/three-volte-restrictions-lifted.18843958/
This guy seems to have gotten it to work.
Eggstones said:
Have you seen this? https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/three-volte-restrictions-lifted.18843958/
This guy seems to have gotten it to work.
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OcUK. User name looks familiar.
We're having this conversation in multiple threads.
VoWifi does NOT work, despite any previous assertions to the contrary. As i mentioned, it was flawed testing methodology.
VoLTE does work, but with Three network restrictions. i.e only when there is no normal 4G (1800Mhz) or 3G available. VoLTE is only carried on the 800Mhz band, which is prioritised lowest.
There are two very long Three 4G threads on the Digital Spy forums. Worth reading if you want the long version of what i have stated above.
Edit: Just a suggestion. Try this app so that you can monitor what Bands you are connecting to at any given time:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wilysis.cellinfolite&hl=en
What you need for VoLTE to work is Band 20. (800Mhz)
Dirk said:
OcUK. User name looks familiar.
We're having this conversation in multiple threads.
VoWifi does NOT work, despite any previous assertions to the contrary. As i mentioned, it was flawed testing methodology.
VoLTE does work, but with Three network restrictions. i.e only when there is no normal 4G (1800Mhz) or 3G available. VoLTE is only carried on the 800Mhz band, which is prioritised lowest.
There are two very long Three 4G threads on the Digital Spy forums. Worth reading if you want the long version of what i have stated above.
Edit: Just a suggestion. Try this app so that you can monitor what Bands you are connecting to at any given time:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wilysis.cellinfolite&hl=en
What you need for VoLTE to work is Band 20. (800Mhz)
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I posted the link here as I thought it was more relevant here.
The app is telling me I have band 20 so volte should be achievable but doesn't seem to be working on lineage (worked fine on OOS 9.0.6)
Eggstones said:
I posted the link here as I thought it was more relevant here.
The app is telling me I have band 20 so volte should be achievable but doesn't seem to be working on lineage (worked fine on OOS 9.0.6)
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To save time can you post a screenshot with the App displaying that information?
'Connected to Band 20' is what we're looking for, rather than 'is available'.
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To save time can you post a screenshot with the App displaying that information?
'Connected to Band 20' is what we're looking for, rather than 'is available'.
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I'm guessing this is the screen you want.
I also installed VOenabler v1.7 which seems to have restored volte. I haven't seen the volte icon but I'm still at home.
Edit: I installed the module before installing the bandwidth app.
Double post..
Eggstones said:
I'm guessing this is the screen you want.
I also installed VOenabler v1.7 which seems to have restored volte. I haven't seen the volte icon but I'm still at home.
Edit: I installed the module before installing the bandwidth app.
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It looks like you have Wifi turned on in those screenshots. If you turn it off you should be able to make a VoLTE call. At least it looks like you should.
So has 3G always been bad where you are? I assume you don't have 3G or normal 4G reception at all? (Bands 1 & 3)
I almost always connect to one of those two in my area, although where i am now it looks like some neighbouring towers do carry Band 20. I just need to destroy the other towers to connect to it!
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It looks like you have Wifi turned on in those screenshots. If you turn it off you should be able to make a VoLTE call. At least it looks like you should.
So has 3G always been bad where you are? I assume you don't have 3G or normal 4G reception at all? (Bands 1 & 3)
I almost always connect to one of those two in my area, although where i am now it looks like some neighbouring towers do carry Band 20. I just need to destroy the other towers to connect to it!
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It's abysmal. I'm in a Victorian basement. The only reason I went with three was the WiFi calling app.
Have left the house now for some air and now I band 1 so I'm guessing I'm connected to a different tower.
Eggstones said:
It's abysmal. I'm in a Victorian basement. The only reason I went with three was the WiFi calling app.
Have left the house now for some air and now I band 1 so I'm guessing I'm connected to a different tower.
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So what you're seeing is evidence of Three de-prioritising Band 20. As 800Mhz has better building penetration it's all you're getting while inside. When you step outside you begin to pick up the other Bands which you are immediately switched to, whether you lke it or not.
I only latch on to Band 20 once in a Blue Moon. The coverage of the other Bands is almost total so i don't stand a chance!
VoWifi is another matter altogether. If it could work with the 'intouch' app there must be something in the app that could be added to our ROMs natively. That's my logic anyway. (Also support is added to phones bought from Three using their official ROMs, so the same logic applies).
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So what you're seeing is evidence of Three de-prioritising Band 20. As 800Mhz has better building penetration it's all you're getting while inside. When you step outside you begin to pick up the other Bands which you are immediately switched to, whether you lke it or not.
I only latch on to Band 20 once in a Blue Moon. The coverage of the other Bands is almost total so i don't stand a chance!
VoWifi is another matter altogether. If it could work with the 'intouch' app there must be something in the app that could be added to our ROMs natively. That's my logic anyway. (Also support is added to phones bought from Three using their official ROMs, so the same logic applies).
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I thought newer phones had WiFi calling by default and didn't need to rely on the carrier.
That's a very good shout but way beyond my skills. Maybe it can be suggested?
Eggstones said:
I thought newer phones had WiFi calling by default and didn't need to rely on the carrier.
That's a very good shout but way beyond my skills. Maybe it can be suggested?
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This is the official word from Three:
http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Three_inTouch
They say 'update' which suggests that people who bought phones on contract might have received an OTA which enabled VoWifi. How much would we love to get a copy of that OTA zip!
Dirk said:
This is the official word from Three:
http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Three_inTouch
They say 'update' which suggests that people who bought phones on contract might have received an OTA which enabled VoWifi. How much would we love to get a copy of that OTA zip!
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Poor us who bought our phones right out. I wonder if this is the case for newer phones too.
There must be someway to get that zip!
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I thinking about buying D4 as my prime phone. I already find out that It supports GSM and how to unlock this feature. But is it worth to buy this phone to work on GSM? I noticed that there are many issues with it:
- not working callout on 3G on Android 2.3
- Verizon lockscreen that wants to activate phone
- problems with APNs
etc.
zwierzak said:
I thinking about buying D4 as my prime phone. I already find out that It supports GSM and how to unlock this feature. But is it worth to buy this phone to work on GSM? I noticed that there are many issues with it:
- not working callout on 3G on Android 2.3
- Verizon lockscreen that wants to activate phone
- problems with APNs
etc.
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Yes! It's definately worth it!
The 3g callout problem is a temporarily thing, I'm sure of it. We're still playing with settings and drivers to fix that. In the mean time I use my phone on 2g for voice and 3g for iinternet. With one press of a button I can switch between 2g and 3g (There's an app for that )
The verizon lock screen pops up only once. Once you skip it, it doesn't return until you reset your phone to factory defaults.
Problems with apn's? Depends on your provider. I didn't have any problems at all.My apn settings were transferred automatically to my D4 when my provider detected that I was using a new phone. Even after installing different roms.
I'm using my D4 a couple of weeks and everything still works like a charm.
vmu said:
Yes! It's definately worth it!
The 3g callout problem is a temporarily thing, I'm sure of it. We're still playing with settings and drivers to fix that. In the mean time I use my phone on 2g for voice and 3g for iinternet. With one press of a button I can switch between 2g and 3g (There's an app for that )
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Mainly I work on 2G because of battery saving (it last for much longer!). But bug with callout has been patch in leaked ICS and what I heard it don't have Verizon stuff installed. I can't wait that some CFW ICS would use its libraries and kernel.
Unfortunately for now I can't afford on buying it because last 10 days jump over 10% according to my currency so it, when previously it had very good price then now it isn't.
I love it. I'm in Canada on Bell Mobility and everything works perfectly on Gingerbread, including outgoing calls on 3G. I think the voice issue is only affecting those within the USA on other carriers such as AT&T.
Sent from my DROID4 using xda premium
Whats the difference in using 2G or 3G for voice calls?
Isn't it the same?
Also, I wanted to use this phone on AT&T in the US. I just have voice and texting. Will this phone work for me?
Rick#2 said:
I love it. I'm in Canada on Bell Mobility and everything works perfectly on Gingerbread, including outgoing calls on 3G. I think the voice issue is only affecting those within the USA on other carriers such as AT&T.
Sent from my DROID4 using xda premium
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Hi there,
did you have the chance of direct comparison to the Droid 3's signal quality, 3g speeds and call quality? I may consider importing it, but still not sure.
THANKS
It seems to work just as well as my Droid 3 did. The only issue I have is that the Droid 4 seems to underreport the signal it is receiving in the status indicator, the highest signal I've been able to see is 3/5 bars but it still seems to perform as if it were at 5/5.
I'm sure it is just tampering by Verizon and doesn't hinder the device's operation at all. I haven't tried any of the AOKP ROMs yet but will report back once I get a chance to install one.
Thanks for the reply!
Thats interesting, it's like the Droid 3 cheating on us that the GSM Signal would be very poor. Would you please have a look in the build.prop if there is a value ro.mot.phonemode.vzwglobalphone and set it to 0? Then prove if the signal gets better?
News about Droid 4 GSM unlocking this summer:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/2...er/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Interestingly enough, in the ICS build just leaked that has global support enabled by default, that value is set to 0 in the build.prop.
I am in the US and a VZW user, so I can't test the GSM radio performance on the D4 because they have disabled it for US carriers via another band lock or other mechanism.
I have been dumping and comparing the NVM of the various builds to try and isolate any critical differences to find the key. It may not, in fact, be in the NVM at all, but elsewhere in the radio image.
Just an FYI.
gtmaster303 said:
Whats the difference in using 2G or 3G for voice calls?
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There is difference in voice codec (on 3G you should get better quality, but it also depends on the second side). Also at 3G you can use front cam for video conferences.
Rotkaeqpchen said:
Thanks for the reply!
Thats interesting, it's like the Droid 3 cheating on us that the GSM Signal would be very poor. Would you please have a look in the build.prop if there is a value ro.mot.phonemode.vzwglobalphone and set it to 0? Then prove if the signal gets better?
News about Droid 4 GSM unlocking this summer:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/2...er/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Yeah, the first thing I did once I could was look at the build.prop settings but I noticed that ro.mot.phonemode.vzwglobalphone is already set to 0, with a note in the comments above it that "the definition moved to cdma_maserati.mk to support different config for factory", which suggests that maybe their tampering is a little more hard-coded into the Blur interface.
Hi folks, I'm having a bit of difficulty or confusion with wifi calling. I'm on EE but my phone is an XEU. There was a wifi calling option that didn't seem to do anything; no icon when enabled and no obvious network connection.
So I switched to the EVR firmware, wiped the phone and set up from scratch. Still got the same wifi calling option, still no icon or network activity with it enabled.
I don't seem to have VoLTE either, I would have thought the EVR CSC would enable that too?
Does anyone have any insight on this?
Thanks.
I have been having weird issues too with a dual SIM version and EE Wi-Fi calling. Inserting a microSD card in second slot can sometimes disable Wi-Fi calling in that I don't even see the option for switching on.
Hopefully future firmware fixes these glitches as I'm really loving this phone after using iPhones for a few years .
Jake
Wifi calling and VoLTE enabled itself after a serendipitous restart today.
Did your wifi calling ever actually work without an EVR CSC or firmware @ajdjackson ?
Edit: Looks like EE had some stuff to set up on my account, problem was at their end. My account says they're setting up roaming and could take up to 24hrs so something has happened to instigate these changes.
Anyway, now I'm really wondering if I need to EVR firmware at all. Samsung's multi CSC system should allow EE's wifi calling but EE would insist that it doesn't. Can anyone chime in?
Yes - strangely mine seems to working OK now even with the sd card in second sim slot. I haven't flashed any firmware at all.
Jake
Right, after a switch back to XEU I can confirm that EE Wifi Calling does work on a non EE phone but VoLTE does not!
So I switched back to EVR and everything's working fine again.
Quite surprising since EE have always insisted that Wifi Calling is exclusive to phones supplied by them, yet I've never read the same about VoLTE.
Hiya,
Just thought I'd share my experiences...
Like you, I'm also on EE and again like you my NOTE 8 is an XEU SIM free model, in my case from CPW. I found the same issue in that the wifi calling option could toggle on and off but the setting didn't seem to do anything; no icon when enabled and no obvious network connection.
I phoned EE on 150 for support but all they could suggest was to reboot my router at home even though I told them I also have a "work's" mobile phone (iPhone 5c) also on EE and that combination does have working wifi calling.
I decided to try a test to determine if the issue was with my Note 8 handset or with my new EE 4G SIM by swapping SIM's between the two phones. The work SIM worked immediately by activating wifi calling in my Note 8. My personal SIM was active in my works iPhone for approx. 2-3 minutes with no signal before a pop-up message appeared asking if I wanted to activate wifi calling. I obviously selected 'Yes' and when I swapped the SIM's back to their original handsets my Note 8 now magically works with wifi calling with the original SIM.
It's almost as if the menu item in the Note 8 for toggling wifi calling on and off doesn't activate the sim card even though the graphic animates to show the function activated.
Anyways, I now have a Note 8 with working wifi calling.
Hope that helps anyone else with similar issues involving EE wifi calling.
*EDIT* Hehe looks like my signature is a little out of date.
S.
Thanks Steve. Do you have VoLTE? I can't get that working without swapping the firmware for the EVR specific one.
UberPishy said:
Thanks Steve. Do you have VoLTE? I can't get that working without swapping the firmware for the EVR specific one.
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Hmm I don't know. I know that I have 'Mobile Networks' setting 'Network mode' set to 'LTE/3G/2G (auto connect)' as opposed to the other settings of '3G/2G (auto connect)', '3G only' or '2G only' but how can you tell if a voice call is routed over 4G? Does a special icon appear as in the case of wifi calling? Hard for me to say as I have zero signal at home and very poor signal at work so in both cases my Note 8 defaults to wifi calling.
Have you tried calling EE to check if VoLTE is only supported on branded firmware as opposed to generic XEU? I know that in the case of wifi calling their website is very explicit in stating that wifi calling is not only supported on EE branded/sourced handsets but also works on certain generic handsets such as S8 / S8+ & Note 8. Their website on VoLTE or as EE term the service '4G calling' is not so clear...
http://newsroom.ee.co.uk/samsung-ga...d-wifi-calling--available-to-pre-order-on-ee/
http://ee.co.uk/help/phones-and-device/wifi-calling
http://ee.co.uk/help/phones-and-device/4g-calling
This EE Community Forum post seems to lay the blame at Samsung's door as opposed to EE's...
https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/4G-and-mobile-data/VoLTE-on-Samsung-Galaxy-S8/td-p/559521
Reading the thread fully, it seems VoLTE is only available on EVR and not XEU.
S.
Steve.P said:
how can you tell if a voice call is routed over 4G? Does a special icon appear as in the case of wifi calling?
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Yes, this shows the VoLTE icon which appears whenever I have no wifi or I disable wifi calling.
https://i.imgur.com/cUhNswN.jpg
The discussion on EE you linked is interesting, so they do limit VoLTE to their own supplied phones. I'd recommend switching to an EVR firmware, despite the guy who says there's no advantage for the user, I've found VoLTE very useful, especially in conjunction with Wifi calling. VoLTE/Wifi calls are so much clearer, they can seamlessly switch if you lose the wifi signal and they seem to connect a bit quicker too.
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Yes, this shows the VoLTE icon which appears whenever I have no wifi or I disable wifi calling.
https://i.imgur.com/cUhNswN.jpg
The discussion on EE you linked is interesting, so they do limit VoLTE to their own supplied phones. I'd recommend switching to an EVR firmware, despite the guy who says there's no advantage for the user, I've found VoLTE very useful, especially in conjunction with Wifi calling. VoLTE/Wifi calls are so much clearer, they can seamlessly switch if you lose the wifi signal and they seem to connect a bit quicker too.
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Ahh there is a symbol, thanks for sharing the picture. I can confirm that do not get VoLTE and whilst it would be good to have every function that I pay for working the fact that I get zero 4G signal at home and at work where I spend 90% of my time means I'm not realistically going to miss VoLTE as my phone now has a working 'wifi calling' service. I suppose that if EE ever get round to providing coverage in the blackspot that surrounds my home location then I might consider swapping to EVR firmware. I won't hold my breath though because in the 20 years that I have lived at my current address, EE and Orange before them haven't bothered with trying to provide adequate cellular coverage.
I remember going through exactly the same crap with my Samsung Galaxy S2, Orange firmware got an app called signal boost and the vanilla xeu firmware didn't and we had to do a number of things to get the app ported over to XEU. Seems like no matter how much technology advances over the years some issues never change.:silly:
S.
So after the official oreo update , my wife's nokia 8 cannot call the voicemail number any more. Last week it worked. Sim in another phone, it works. Dialing on the updated nokia 8, 'this number is not available'.
Can't find anything on the internet, so checking here if somebody knows what could be the issue here.
Any services that handles this 1233 calling differently then any other number?
Any hint or 'look at this option' will be appreciated as i'm pretty stuck and even tele2 customer service has no clue ofcourse.
I'm on Tele2 nl and have the same issue. I don't know what the solution is. Let's hope for a fast fix.
Edit: a temporary ghettofix is to disable advanced lte mode (geoptimaliseerde 4G LTE modus) in mobile network in the settings menu.
yeah just figured that one too. Fiddled first with 4g/3g/2g settings which made it work too. Turning off VoLTE indeed made it also work on the 4G preferred network mode
Apb said:
yeah just figured that one too. Fiddled first with 4g/3g/2g settings which made it work too. Turning off VoLTE indeed made it also work on the 4G preferred network mode
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It seems that Tele2 switched to full LTE since last week, whereas before it only used VoLTE in some cases.
It could be that they forgot to register their number. I assume that the other phone you used to test does not use VoLTE?
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It seems that Tele2 switched to full LTE since last week, whereas before it only used VoLTE in some cases.
It could be that they forgot to register their number. I assume that the other phone you used to test does not use VoLTE?
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interesting, is there any article that mentions the date? Too me its a bit too coincidental that it happen the same time as Oreo update
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interesting, is there any article that mentions the date? Too me its a bit too coincidental that it happen the same time as Oreo update
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No, but I tested in situations that didn't give me volte before, but now they do.
So I spent an extensive amount of time about this whole VoLTE situation with this phone with both At&t and ASUS. My question is how do you know if you are actually utilizing the VoLTE connection?
I am able to make clear voice calls while browsing the internet or downloading an application. My speeds vary anywhere between 60 and 100 Mbps with no connectivity issues. The phone has no indicator of LTE connection but is constantly 4g++. Asus and at&t both stated that is the LTE connection. So I went into the phone settings via the image in this and it shows the VoLTE setting not toggled.
So the next question is, what indicator is there that this connection is NOT VoLTE other than this toggle? The speeds appear faster than Hspa+ but nobody I spoke to had the technological knowledge to be able to explain this. Also what speeds down and up is everyone else receiving?
From what I have read, this phone doesnt support VoLTE. And what worries me is that all the carriers are transitioning to VoLTE starting in 2020. Some are saying phone calls will no longer be possible on this phone. Which confuses me as it just released.
You can tell by making a voice call and seeing if the phone stays on 4G++ or drops to 2G/3G. I am 99% sure we will not get VoLTE on this phone. TMobile rep suggested tweeting TMobile on Twitter as the marketing team there might help, but I just don't care anymore. I'll stick with my pixel 2 xl for now.
Is ANOTHER thread on this necessary? Wtf? No volte. Not now, not ever. Get your money back. Asus are idiots for releasing this phone in us with no volte. 2020, no phone calls. Enjoy!
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From what I have read, this phone doesnt support VoLTE. And what worries me is that all the carriers are transitioning to VoLTE starting in 2020. Some are saying phone calls will no longer be possible on this phone. Which confuses me as it just released.
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I know VoLTE is 100% possible on this phone, however not in the USA. It has something to do with the USA companies and At&t told me VoLTE is definitely a possibility as well as WiFi calling in the future but that has to be certified by the US companies. This phone supposedly works with WiFi calling as well as VoLTE in the European market as they don't have the same issues with the companies controlling the way it operates. I am moving to Norway on the 23rd but honestly the connection has been fantastic and I do like the phone quite a bit. During my phone calls I remained at 4g+ or ++ while surfing the web or watching Netflix with no issues during the call or the film itself.
I have messed around with it to see if there was anything that seemed off about it but so far it has worked just as well as My note 10+. Also the phone is operating on 4g so saying that it can't be used is silly. The 4g band will be around for quite some time while some companies like Verizon are removing 3g as it operates on the cdma versus gsm. At&t will continue 3g operations until 2022 and 4g will take years to completely phase out from 5g and by then another phone will replace the ROG 2.
I will however annotate how this phone operates on the European networks once I arrive. As per my previous post I can obtain 40mbps up to 100mbps which is definitely 4g speeds. 3g can not obtain those types of speeds. The bands available are key to the operating network for sure though. I think at&t seems to offer the best fit here in the USA.
Eebzter said:
I know VoLTE is 100% possible on this phone, however not in the USA. It has something to do with the USA companies and At&t told me VoLTE is definitely a possibility as well as WiFi calling in the future but that has to be certified by the US companies. This phone supposedly works with WiFi calling as well as VoLTE in the European market as they don't have the same issues with the companies controlling the way it operates. I am moving to Norway on the 23rd but honestly the connection has been fantastic and I do like the phone quite a bit. During my phone calls I remained at 4g+ or ++ while surfing the web or watching Netflix with no issues during the call or the film itself.
I have messed around with it to see if there was anything that seemed off about it but so far it has worked just as well as My note 10+. Also the phone is operating on 4g so saying that it can't be used is silly. The 4g band will be around for quite some time while some companies like Verizon are removing 3g as it operates on the cdma versus gsm. At&t will continue 3g operations until 2022 and 4g will take years to completely phase out from 5g and by then another phone will replace the ROG 2.
I will however annotate how this phone operates on the European networks once I arrive. As per my previous post I can obtain 40mbps up to 100mbps which is definitely 4g speeds. 3g can not obtain those types of speeds. The bands available are key to the operating network for sure though. I think at&t seems to offer the best fit here in the USA.
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I am currently using this phone with AT&T. So should I be good for calls through 2020 and 2021? Reason I ask is because I literally just got it a week ago, and then read this news about the whole VoLTE thing and was just devastated thinking I have to now find a way to sell it and find a new phone.
Also, since I got the phone, I am only ever on H+ for the signal. I thought it was LTE capable? I came over from Verizon, so the H+ was something new to me. I know I am in a LTE area. Do I need to do something to activate it?
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I am currently using this phone with AT&T. So should I be good for calls through 2020 and 2021? Reason I ask is because I literally just got it a week ago, and then read this news about the whole VoLTE thing and was just devastated thinking I have to now find a way to sell it and find a new phone.
Also, since I got the phone, I am only ever on H+ for the signal. I thought it was LTE capable? I came over from Verizon, so the H+ was something new to me. I know I am in a LTE area. Do I need to do something to activate it?
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Was this a ported number? When I went from Verizon to at&t there was an issue when I ported the same number back to at&t. They were able to get it resolved by calling Verizon having them refresh the port and then re initiating the LTE from their end. And that was with my Samsung. I did speak to at&t again today about the LTE and they may have to make sure your Sim is "LTE" and also making sure they unlock it on their end. Supposedly the LTE and volte have to be activated from them. Also ensure you have the appropriate APN setting as sometimes with unlocked phones those setting do not carry over.
And the phone should be working fine until a minimum of 2022 even with 3g or H
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Was this a ported number? When I went from Verizon to at&t there was an issue when I ported the same number back to at&t. They were able to get it resolved by calling Verizon having them refresh the port and then re initiating the LTE from their end. And that was with my Samsung. I did speak to at&t again today about the LTE and they may have to make sure your Sim is "LTE" and also making sure they unlock it on their end. Supposedly the LTE and volte have to be activated from them. Also ensure you have the appropriate APN setting as sometimes with unlocked phones those setting do not carry over.
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I did bring the number over from Verizon. I may have to go in to AT&T to resolve that from what you're saying then.
Dealing with the APN setting, I am good with tech, but this part has me a tad confused. What should I be looking for on the phone? I see under APN, it says AT&T is selected. There are other options like tracfone, but I assume its fine then if it has AT&T selected?
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I did bring the number over from Verizon. I may have to go in to AT&T to resolve that from what you're saying then.
Dealing with the APN setting, I am good with tech, but this part has me a tad confused. What should I be looking for on the phone? I see under APN, it says AT&T is selected. There are other options like tracfone, but I assume its fine then if it has AT&T selected?
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Here is what at&t recommends for APN settings
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1218306
And yes something about how Verizon and at&t handle it some things can get "hung up" in the system
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Here is what at&t recommends for APN settings
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1218306
And yes something about how Verizon and at&t handle it some things can get "hung up" in the system
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I appreciate the help! I will give it a try!
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Eebzter said:
Here is what at&t recommends for APN settings
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1218306
And yes something about how Verizon and at&t handle it some things can get "hung up" in the system
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I tried those APN settings and it seems to not work. The signal bar still shows a signal, but there is no longer a H or H+ sign. Hmmm
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I appreciate the help! I will give it a try!
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I tried those APN settings and it seems to not work. The signal bar still shows a signal, but there is no longer a H or H+ sign. Hmmm
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That's interesting, but I would recommend going to at&t and confirming that LTE is good to go on your phone. They can also verify nothing is stuck in the system and your appropriate APN settings
HI all,
As noted in the product pages and other information about the 5a, its being sold directly via Google. Has anyone ever figured out how to add WIFI calling to these devices?
I am under the impression if you want wifi calling on a certain network you MUST purchase a phone from that network (IE pixels, Samsungs etc).
I didn't really think about it. It "just works" for me on Mint, an MVNO on T-Mobile. I did use the USB-cable based method to migrate settings from the old phone to the pixel 5a before moving my SIM. But I don't think that was needed.
I was already using it w/ a previous phone, having gone to the Mint website to get the feature provisioned for my subscription. That phone was a retail phone I bought direct from Motorola, also not connected to Mint nor T-Mobile in any way. Originally, Once I provisioned it at Mint, the WiFi-Calling settings became available under Network settings in the phone.
Wifi Calling is working fine on Verizon.
Worked on AT&T pretty smoothly. Flipped the Wi-Fi calling switch under settings. Agreed to some at&t custom pages about 911, and 10 seconds later was calling on wifi.
Haven't been able to enable wifi calling with AT&T. Getting error EDS0060.
My T-Mobile US is working with wifi and 5g, no problems. I bought from Google to avoid crapware and locks from TMO.
I looked for the Wifi switch under settings and had none. It was the same with my Pixel 3a as well, and I am using Cricket. Signal at work sux so wfi calling would be good. I'm not there very often.
Still would be nice to have.
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I looked for the Wifi switch under settings and had none. It was the same with my Pixel 3a as well, and I am using Cricket. Signal at work sux so wfi calling would be good. I'm not there very often.
Still would be nice to have.
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They hide it well - they don't want people to turn it off as it saves them a lot of bandwidth if everyone connects through their own wifi instead of a cell tower. Go to Settings/Network & internet/ then hold down Mobile Network for a bit, then go to bottom and select Advanced and look towards the bottom for Wifi Calling.
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They hide it well - they don't want people to turn it off as it saves them a lot of bandwidth if everyone connects through their own wifi instead of a cell tower. Go to Settings/Network & internet/ then hold down Mobile Network for a bit, then go to bottom and select Advanced and look towards the bottom for Wifi Calling.
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Thank You! I didn't realize you needed to hold the Mobile networks for a bit. Last time I just tapped it, went to advanced and nada. This time I found the switch and started activating wifi calling but errored out. I'll ty again later.
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Thank You! I didn't realize you needed to hold the Mobile networks for a bit. Last time I just tapped it, went to advanced and nada. This time I found the switch and started activating wifi calling but errored out. I'll ty again later.
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I don't think I can help further. Cricket is AT&T and does support wifi calling; the Pixel should be able to support their version. OTOH it may not be supported with your SIM card - if it is old you may want to see if you can get a new SIM card - just one possibility. There is a reason that wifi calling was not "on" by default. Edit: I assume your 5a came direct from Google, as mine did. Phones sold by network operators do have some modifications.