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Am I late to the party SM-T713/SM-T813?

Hi!
My Nexus 9 tablet is driving me crazy since 1st day on. I'm searching for a tablet with good ROM support and find this Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 - in variant SM-T713/SM-T813 - it's supported by lineage.
My question is to he owners of this tablet and lineage on it:
Is it worth to buy it? How is the performance with normal usage (multitasking)? Stability?

schickel said:
Hi!
My Nexus 9 tablet is driving me crazy since 1st day on. I'm searching for a tablet with good ROM support and find this Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 - in variant SM-T713/SM-T813 - it's supported by lineage.
My question is to he owners of this tablet and lineage on it:
Is it worth to buy it? How is the performance with normal usage (multitasking)? Stability?
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I also came from the Nexus 9 and feel your frustration. That thing is ready for the skip.
I was also thinking about Lineage on my T715 when I first bought it as I'd heard all the bad stories about Touchwiz. To my pleasant surprise, I've found Touchwiz to be so good, I've not even thought about rooting/lineage. The performance of this tablet has been rock solid since day 1, but could never be described as fast. Thankfully, it does everything at the same speed. No problems with refreshing Chrome tabs or launcher redraws like on the Nexus 9.
If you do take the plunge, just have in mind that this is getting long in the tooth so don't pay too much for it. You can also swap the order of the capacitive buttons using an app called, "All in one gestures," from the play store.
Let us know how you get on.

schickel said:
Hi!
My Nexus 9 tablet is driving me crazy since 1st day on. I'm searching for a tablet with good ROM support and find this Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 - in variant SM-T713/SM-T813 - it's supported by lineage.
My question is to he owners of this tablet and lineage on it:
Is it worth to buy it? How is the performance with normal usage (multitasking)? Stability?
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In my opinion it is an excellent tablet both with performance and stability. I have been running Omni Rom 8.1.0 for several months and I couldn't be happier with it. Even while I was on stock I had no issues with it. I picked my T813 up about 18 months ago on eBay for way below the going price. The price for a "New (other)" from the same dealer I bought mine is currently $260. He provides a really good 1 year warranty and has a very fair return policy. The going price for a Tab S3 is $390 which I think is way overpriced for it.
Just my opinion and you know what they say about those.

pastorbob62 said:
In my opinion it is an excellent tablet both with performance and stability. I have been running Omni Rom 8.1.0 for several months and I couldn't be happier with it. Even while I was on stock I had no issues with it. I picked my T813 up about 18 months ago on eBay for way below the going price. The price for a "New (other)" from the same dealer I bought mine is currently $260. He provides a really good 1 year warranty and has a very fair return policy. The going price for a Tab S3 is $390 which I think is way overpriced for it.
Just my opinion and you know what they say about those.
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Thank you.
I've got one new for 230 Euro in ebay.
2 things are terrible with this tablet and lineage
1. Can't charge over night the tablet to 100% - slow charging
2. Something eats battery in flight mode and display is off. - 25% in 4 hours. Can't find the reason for this
Everything else is top, but these 2 points are the killer

schickel said:
Thank you.
I've got one new for 230 Euro in ebay.
2 things are terrible with this tablet and lineage
1. Can't charge over night the tablet to 100% - slow charging
2. Something eats battery in flight mode and display is off. - 25% in 4 hours. Can't find the reason for this
Everything else is top, but these 2 points are the killer
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1. I noticed the same thing on my charger, however when I plugged the tablet into my phone charger it charged up much faster and had no problem reaching 100% overnight.
2, I don't have a clue about that. It must be specific to your tablet. I have been running for 3 days and 6 hours and still have 37%. That is with moderate usage playing Hay Day and Word Crumble some as well as some reading.

I've flashed omni and there is the same. Over night from 80% to 7% without display on, without using any app. That's apolutly a no go.
Now back to crap - Nexus 9
Sadly google stopped supporting tablets.
Samsung is bad because bad software support (look S8/S9 and oreo updates). With my S6 Edge I had also problems that I decided no Samsung anymore. I did it again and now the Tab S2 is going the same way back to eBay, if I get it charged to 100% in 2 days... .
Totally disappointed

I think that you had bad luck.
I've t719,LTE version,and the battery life it's very good.Usually,the LTE version it's more intense battery killer,but I managed to squeeze two days without charging,without games,only browsing,music,email.
Something it's wrong,try to buy from another source.
Cheers

viasat said:
I think that you had bad luck.
I've t719,LTE version,and the battery life it's very good.Usually,the LTE version it's more intense battery killer,but I managed to squeeze two days without charging,without games,only browsing,music,email.
Something it's wrong,try to buy from another source.
Cheers
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With Stock battery seems to be ok. But lineage and other 8.1 is very bad. And I bought this tablet because of these custom ROMs. Samsung is not supporting this tablet for 8.0/8.1 so I thought it will be nice with 8.1, I thought.... It will.....

Now I understand.
If so,you don't have many choices with good tablets with custom roms support.
At 8" screen,almost no choices,because Mediapad M3 and M5 from Huawei are not so popular.
Cheers

Yeah.... And Huawei closed his bootloader, so no chance for any custom ROM.
And how I've read the news, Google cancel his support to their tabs. Let's see what the future brings

A little bit off-topic,but I think that not the bootloader it's the problem of the Huawei mediapads,but the proprietary SOC,Kirin.
Even with bootloader unlocked,the third party development for Kirin it's almost inexistant.
Cheers

how are you getting on with your p20 pro? is it all you expected?

Just wanted to get a feel for how people are with their p20 pros
Personally I want to change very little.about it, I'm rooted and have my normal rooted apps, adaway, titanium, 1 magisk module swap torpedo (kills the swap file, not needed for 6GB of RAM)
Other than that, the theme, the signal location, the camera, it's all pretty amazing.
I expected more from the battery but I can live with it.
The only thing I think that will annoy me is the lack of ROMs, but it's hurting a lot less than it did on other odd devices I've bought:
Sony Z1
Note 4
I think if Huawei would have flooded the globe with one variant with Google esq updates, it would have been one of those phones that alter a generation , kind of like the HD2 and Nexus devices did and Oneplus devices are.
Instead we've got several variants with a completely insane and i mean insane after market development scene, it's like everyone got the memo but me lol.
How have you found yours for the time youve had it?

I love it.
The battery is immense, and because I regularly have days with 8hrs plus SoT, it's a godsend.
I knew the camera was good, but it's better than I hoped, so much so that I got rid of my compact camera and my DSLR gets much less use these days.
I don't understand what you mean by lack of apps?
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Lack of US supports hurts. I really like the p20 pro but if the p30 pro next year doesn't support tmobile band 71 then this will be my last Huawei device.

orangecroc said:
I love it.
The battery is immense, and because I regularly have days with 8hrs plus SoT, it's a godsend.
I knew the camera was good, but it's better than I hoped, so much so that I got rid of my compact camera and my DSLR gets much less use these days.
I don't understand what you mean by lack of apps?
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Sorry pal I meant lack of ROMs.
8 hours? Not bad but consider if it was as well optimized as hear vanilla phones.
Oneplus 5 835 - No limits ROM. 14 hours 30 minutes.
Battery size is 3400 Vs the Huawei having 4000
Lol I expected more
We should be clearing 10 hours daily

worldsoutro said:
Lack of US supports hurts. I really like the p20 pro but if the p30 pro next year doesn't support tmobile band 71 then this will be my last Huawei device.
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Think that decision has been made.
I think they're missing a massive part of the market tbh.
I got they reconsider, I really do.
1 model
1 target audience
Quick updates
Bootloader unlocking
That is all I need.
= A healthy community.
Bare in mind, were the people who or families and friends ask when they want to buy a phone.
I can't recommend Huawei anymore.
I wish I could.

dladz said:
Just wanted to get a feel for how people are with their p20 pros
Personally I want to change very little.about it, I'm rooted and have my normal rooted apps, adaway, titanium, 1 magisk module swap torpedo (kills the swap file, not needed for 6GB of RAM)
Other than that, the theme, the signal location, the camera, it's all pretty amazing.
I expected more from the battery but I can live with it.
The only thing I think that will annoy me is the lack of ROMs, but it's hurting a lot less than it did on other odd devices I've bought:
Sony Z1
Note 4
I think if Huawei would have flooded the globe with one variant with Google esq updates, it would have been one of those phones that alter a generation , kind of like the HD2 and Nexus devices did and Oneplus devices are.
Instead we've got several variants with a completely insane and i mean insane after market development scene, it's like everyone got the memo but me lol.
How have you found yours for the time youve had it?
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I think you should go out on a Friday night..... you're looking for something to amuse you. I've had to stop in and have a drink.
I'm quite into this phone apart from the complete lack of updates (I have the UK model)
I don't modify much these days unless I can't utilise the full screen because of onscreen navigation buttons but, luckily, this device has the perfect solution. [emoji3]
I must admit, I loved my HTC desire days....the customisations we could do then....Leedroid...my hero.
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dladz said:
Think that decision has been made.
I think they're missing a massive part of the market tbh.
I got they reconsider, I really do.
1 model
1 target audience
Quick updates
Bootloader unlocking
That is all I need.
= A healthy community.
Bare in mind, were the people who or families and friends ask when they want to buy a phone.
I can't recommend Huawei anymore.
I wish I could.
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That decision was made for them by the US government. I am not sure what the whole story is behind it but no Carriers in the US want anything to do with Huawei now.
With carrier support and good advertising they could have made a decent splash in the US overtime.
Even if they support band 71 it's a tough sell to spend so much on a phone that won't have any US warranty backing.

worldsoutro said:
That decision was made for them by the US government. I am not sure what the whole story is behind it but no Carriers in the US want anything to do with Huawei now.
With carrier support and good advertising they could have made a decent splash in the US overtime.
Even if they support band 71 it's a tough sell to spend so much on a phone that won't have any US warranty backing.
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All I know is, Oneplus have come and dominated.
They've provided for everyone.
Bootloader? So so easy.
Speed? The one thing parents and kids need when you hand your phone down to them.
Oneplus stands alone.
Huawei have the know how to be technically and globally dominant, but theyve missed out ingredients that matter.
I'll never buy another huawei, as much as I love it and I did I couldn't commit over £1,000 to a company that gives so much then breaks it with poor policies, awful selling tactics (models) and ridiculed hardware.
Maybe it'll be different one day but ive had this conversation before about a giant (HTC) and they never recovered,.
I'm curious to see how Huawei do next year, I have a feeling that they'll be reversing their decision very soon.
I just fear it'll be too late.
PS I really really wanted the p20 pro to succeed or even has suede hdmi via USB is superb.
They did swerve the bootloader decision and release a firmware for vanilla Android.
Completely blow every other phone out the water.

bobsie41 said:
I think you should go out on a Friday night..... you're looking for something to amuse you. I've had to stop in and have a drink.
I'm quite into this phone apart from the complete lack of updates (I have the UK model)
I don't modify much these days unless I can't utilise the full screen because of onscreen navigation buttons but, luckily, this device has the perfect solution. [emoji3]
I must admit, I loved my HTC desire days....the customisations we could do then....Leedroid...my hero.
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Slightly presumptuous. ,,l, :laugh:
I've lost more hours of life from nights out than I imagine you've lived my friend.
I'm also in the UK, take my guide it helps.
Gets you on 432
Then 131 is close by.
You can't miss, of course , back up.
I totally love that single's button navigation, I couldn't live without it now

dladz said:
All I know is, Oneplus have come and dominated.
They've provided for everyone.
Bootloader? So so easy.
Speed? The one thing parents and kids need when you hand your phone down to them.
Oneplus stands alone.
Huawei have the know how to be technically and globally dominant, but theyve missed out ingredients that matter.
I'll never buy another huawei, as much as I love it and I did I couldn't commit over £1,000 to a company that gives so much then breaks it with poor policies, awful selling tactics (models) and ridiculed hardware.
Maybe it'll be different one day but ive had this conversation before about a giant (HTC) and they never recovered,.
I'm curious to see how Huawei do next year, I have a feeling that they'll be reversing their decision very soon.
I just fear it'll be too late.
PS I really really wanted the p20 pro to succeed or even has suede hdmi via USB is superb.
They did swerve the bootloader decision and release a firmware for vanilla Android.
Completely blow every other phone out the water.
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Yeah for people that like to tinker, oneplus is one of the best options. I just hope they keep improving the camera, o6 is a good start.
Yeah I don't know what Huawei was thinking with so many different varriants. Oneplus did it right they only have two hydrogen os for the Chinese market and oxygen for the rest. The hardware is the same as well.

worldsoutro said:
Yeah for people that like to tinker, oneplus is one of the best options. I just hope they keep improving the camera, o6 is a good start.
Yeah I don't know what Huawei was thinking with so many different varriants. Oneplus did it right they only have two hydrogen os for the Chinese market and oxygen for the rest. The hardware is the same as well.
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Which is superb
Not sure I'd buy the op6 tho.. it wouldn't last as long as the op5.
But I agree with you pal.

The camera, battery, design, screen, storage space, are all far above my expectations. Well done huawei. I'm very glad I did the change from oneplus and Samsung.
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dladz said:
Slightly presumptuous. ,,l, [emoji23]
I've lost more hours of life from nights out than I imagine you've lived my friend.
I'm also in the UK, take my guide it helps.
Gets you on 432
Then 131 is close by.
You can't miss, of course , back up.
I totally love that single's button navigation, I couldn't live without it now
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Wow.
That makes you at least seventy.
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dladz said:
Which is superb
Not sure I'd buy the op6 tho.. it wouldn't last as long as the op5.
But I agree with you pal.
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I think op held back on the battery and going to improve it for o6t

Sold mine. The software update situation was just a joke and frustrated me more than the benefits the rest of the device brought to me.
Shame but learnt my lesson now. Pixel or OnePlus devices for me going forward.

I'm having mixed feelings about the device. I have bought it twice, as I wasn't happy, so I could compare and find out if the problem is the device or me.
So far, I'm very happy with build quality, usability, design, screen and functionality. The camera of my second device is better than the one of the first, but I'm struggling to get good battery life with both. 3 hours DOT, maybe four if I'm lucky. I think that's not really good, and as both devices behave like this, the problem must be me. Not really sure what I'm doing wrong, as even my old rusty iPhone 6 can give me 3 hours of DOT, so I expected a lot more in this aspect. Other than that, I really like this device.

It's amazing
The missing notifications from some apps is a problem, wish someone could do a guide about how to fix that
Also, battery drains pretty fast, i can't get a full-day through it
Are VoLTE and VoWIFI draining the battery faster, any thoughts on that?

Best phoned I ever had. Slow at getting upgrades but can live without it. Battery, camera, performance are fantastic. How people can complain about the battery life? I am a heavy user and and can't kill the battery in one day

I get 3 hours SOT. I don‘t think that‘s stellar.

I switched from Samsung to p20 pro and thats the best ive ever done.
I love the p20 pro, its amazing, the screen, the smotheness, the SOT and so on.....
Greetz

anyone still here? the note 4 continues to impress me....

Yeah.
It really was a great phone.
How long now? 4 years? 5?
The screen is still fantastic. Big and wide and great definition and deep blacks.
The pen is not trying to do too many things.
The back cover comes off - and there's the battery.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
And the lovely metal work is elegant all the time.
It still manages all the games fine, boots fast, is quick with apps.
It's the best ok phone I've had - and I've had them all.
The note 10 is the first one that comes close. I like that they've kept it slim
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!

Why, of course, the battery is sealed now. Otherwise not much reason to upgrade year on year anymore. Phones are not leaps and bounds better from a few years ago. Only add gimmicks like in screen finger reader. Older flagship speed is enough if you don't play games. This world is sad.
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Long may it last!

I haven't found an equivalent replacement yet. Sadly, iR control in restaurant/bar TVs seems to be declining...

I have the SM-N910C and I live in Brazil.
I bought it new in 2016 and until today never gave problem. The battery is still great. I almost bought Note 8 or 9 recently, as I needed more internal memory, but solved the problem by going back to Android 5.1.1 (WanamLite, which I've used once for a long time).
I was almost 9 Gb free. Now you will be much longer with me. The device is fantastic.

N910F is still my daily driver! I have modded the cr*p out of it, feels so good, fast, smooth. Hope to be able to use it for 4 to 5 more years.
Bought a LG V20 for my girlfriend, 130 euro. Might also be an option for me, in case my Note 4 breaks down.

BACK BUTTON TO KILL app (only works once)
I fully agree with you aboyut Note4. I bought my wife one and she wanted a 10. I told her I could make the guts do the same thing (plus I can't see spending arms and legs for the most rapidly depreciating item). I've got 128 memory card, one of those massive multiple day batteries, round magnet charger mini USB that jumps on (no plugging), happy as a clam!
Does anyone on earth know of an apk that won't turn off after 1 use back button to kill app? That's my favorite function and I can't stand not being able to close them as I finish except those I return to. I have the apk but I have to keep going into settings, turning it back on for a one time use. Ive searched programming apps but there's none on earth I see that will do the job, and my OS doesn't allow it (I'm still trying to get a custom ROM but having no luck, bricked my other phone yesterday (I think bad CPU sector somewhere based on symptoms).

Hello, I'm currently on a OnePlus 5 but think that it's really overrated coming from my mod friendly S5 mini. I plan on maybe going back to an older phone, because I don't really need performance for anything except Dolphin and Citra Emulator (the MMJ variants of course) but I'd be willing to sacrifice it, since I've seen myself using it only rarely anyway, but I'm a little concerned about 1. The community, since it's an old phone, even though it's a really loved phone. 2. The stylus - does it work on custom ROMs? 3. The battery - I'd definitely buy a 3rd party battery, since the originals will have lost a LOT of capacity, but going from a 10nm SoC (SD 835) to a 20nm one (Exynos 5433) is a little concerning. (4. The kernel and modding sector - Are there good kernels from honest people, not guys like franciscofranco, and mods?) I'd really appreciate answers, maybe I could be helpful because I'm still very young but pretty experienced with modding, development and that stuff, even though I don't even own an x86 desktop and don't even speak english as a native language.

The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..

GameShadow7 said:
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
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My depend on what version N4 you have?
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GameShadow7 said:
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
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It may depend on what version of the Note 4 you have or if you know how to port roms. For instance, i have a n910p and locked to the fused5,binary4 aboot preventing downgreading the bootloader. So stuck on 6.0 MM, so thrat sucks but the n910f is very similar in compatibility so that opens up other options. Theres also a GRX touchwiz home mod V8 that is pretty cool.
Im running a combination of Dtux Rom with an N7 custum kernel by freeza r61 and GRX V8 along with. alll sorts of ports from different develops. Thats just part of what I have done with the old N4.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...are-customizations-mods-roms-kernels-t3960353

Still Have My Note 4 & Note 7
The Note 4 with Android 6 still serves very nicely as a work phone. At the office, it does everything I need very well. The Note 4 is a better phone than my mom's Galaxy J7 from 2018. But for fun and photography, my Note 7 rocks. Those two Note models remain my favorite. I gave my Note 8 to my wife.

kolembo said:
Yeah.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
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Could you expand on the camera cover statement please Kolembo ... how, from where ?
Agree wholeheartedly ... The Note 4 still rocks,
Cheers .... Alan.

Note 4 was best choice am happy with my note 4
Now am using s10 plus & note 4 ♡

Note 4 is still my favorite of all phones I have had.

I am considering the Xiaomi Mi 9 lite.
It has quite a lot of features of the Note 4: iR port, SD card, oled, earphone plug.
No removable battery, no pen, no barometer. Oh, and doesn't cover so many bands. B12 seems missing.
Would also have some advantages over Note 4: faster, security updates, bigger screen, FM radio (ha), longer battery life, better bluetooth.

I love my note 4. It covers so many functions such as tv remote, portable mp3 player, book reader and movie player. I also love the fact that I can swap out deodexed roms and custom roms at will to enhance the device's longetivity. I do believe that there is no other phone quite like it on the market so I guess thats why I bought a back up note 4 many years ago ??

Yup we're still building
10 Android ROMs and counting.
Plus Ubuntu touch !

I am wondering if my Note 4 is finally dead. I love the phone and was hoping to still be using it but a few hours ago the phone just froze so I just removed the battery. After that, I put the battery back in and it wouldn't power up. I left the battery out for a 20-30 mintues and then put it back it. It was able to power on but after the Tmobil splash screen it goes to the screen before going to the home screen and when I swipe nothing happens. I am afraid my Note has finally given up after years of service. Is everyone else's Note 4 still kicking?
kolembo said:
Yeah.
It really was a great phone.
How long now? 4 years? 5?
The screen is still fantastic. Big and wide and great definition and deep blacks.
The pen is not trying to do too many things.
The back cover comes off - and there's the battery.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
And the lovely metal work is elegant all the time.
It still manages all the games fine, boots fast, is quick with apps.
It's the best ok phone I've had - and I've had them all.
The note 10 is the first one that comes close. I like that they've kept it slim
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
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After several update over last year the phone started to be very slow. The final blow came beginning Dec 2019 when it did restart by itself and did install then 1 app. Usually will ask me for this. Since then the battery drains 10 times faster. So it is obvious that the update was meant to make me buy a new phone... But I like soo much the note 4.
First I did a factory resent. Did not help at all. Then I did flash it with Odin - now it works soooo fast, better than the new phones. But the battery drain continues. Fully charged in the evening I leave it in flight mode. In the morning the battery is only 50%. And this is with a new original Samsung battery I just bought. Will a re-flash with nand erase help? Does anyone have experience with this?

Andrey12 said:
After several update over last year the phone started to be very slow. The final blow came beginning Dec 2019 when it did restart by itself and did install then 1 app. Usually will ask me for this. Since then the battery drains 10 times faster. So it is obvious that the update was meant to make me buy a new phone... But I like soo much the note 4.
First I did a factory resent. Did not help at all. Then I did flash it with Odin - now it works soooo fast, better than the new phones. But the battery drain continues. Fully charged in the evening I leave it in flight mode. In the morning the battery is only 50%. And this is with a new original Samsung battery I just bought. Will a re-flash with nand erase help? Does anyone have experience with this?
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Is it hard for you to find or buy another Note 4 battery? I know it's old by today's standards but I would assume there might still be some new third-party batteries for it. I still have 2 new batteries from Anker when bought two extra for the device a year or two ago. Good luck on trying to find something.

Would you recommend a Note 9 now, in mid 2020?

Time to buy something much newer than I had, but I'm not spending four digits. I'm strongly considering the Note 9 but don't know about its longevity at this point. Do you think the Note 9 still has plenty of mileage left?

I just bought an Ocean Blue Exynos 512GB Note9 2.5 months ago. Had an S5 for 5 years before it. The phone's amazing. I'd advise you to get the 512GB version as that model comes with 8GB RAM instead of 6. I constantly have 15 to 20 open apps in memory and unless the app is designed to refresh after a certain period of time, I never have app refreshes caused by low memory or Android killing my apps.
On Android 10 OneUI 2.0 I can safely get 8 hours of screen on time without any attempt to save my battery life. All my apps and system are with dark mode turned on though but I don't consider this an attempt at saving battery life as I've always preferred dark themes over lighter ones anyway.
Games like Asphalt 9 run with no issues at all, just the battery temperature rises to 40C if you play it for 1 hour nonstop. I'm not a gamer so that doesn't bother me at all as I rarely play it.
Finally, the Note9 gets monthly security updates and it will get OneUI 2.1 in June. That will most likely be its last major update though but if you don't really care for having Android 11 it's no problem at all as the phone is full of features anyway.
If you have any questions feel free to ask here and I'll respond. If you don't mind telling, what phone did/do you have?

One and only answer is -
Yes. Absolutely. Yes.

After one year with the N9,a great device without problems,i would buy a Note 10+....

O's said:
Time to buy something much newer than I had, but I'm not spending four digits. I'm strongly considering the Note 9 but don't know about its longevity at this point. Do you think the Note 9 still has plenty of mileage left?
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Few more months we will have note20. At that time note10/10+ will lower the price. If it were me, i would wait...

yaibakt said:
Few more months we will have note20. At that time note10/10+ will lower the price. If it were me, i would wait...
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But the Note9 is better than the Note10. It has more features.

koragg97 said:
I just bought an Ocean Blue Exynos 512GB Note9 2.5 months ago. Had an S5 for 5 years before it. The phone's amazing. I'd advise you to get the 512GB version as that model comes with 8GB RAM instead of 6. I constantly have 15 to 20 open apps in memory and unless the app is designed to refresh after a certain period of time, I never have app refreshes caused by low memory or Android killing my apps.
On Android 10 OneUI 2.0 I can safely get 8 hours of screen on time without any attempt to save my battery life. All my apps and system are with dark mode turned on though but I don't consider this an attempt at saving battery life as I've always preferred dark themes over lighter ones anyway.
Games like Asphalt 9 run with no issues at all, just the battery temperature rises to 40C if you play it for 1 hour nonstop. I'm not a gamer so that doesn't bother me at all as I rarely play it.
Finally, the Note9 gets monthly security updates and it will get OneUI 2.1 in June. That will most likely be its last major update though but if you don't really care for having Android 11 it's no problem at all as the phone is full of features anyway.
If you have any questions feel free to ask here and I'll respond. If you don't mind telling, what phone did/do you have?
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All great to know. I'm coming from Note 4.
It seems the Note 9's reached root finally, while the Note 10 hasn't. I don't see virtually any ROMs in the N10 forum. That's another reason I'm leaning N9. I'd bet it'll get Android 11 thanks to devs here.
manne48 said:
After one year with the N9,a great device without problems,i would buy a Note 10+....
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OK, for what reasons?
yaibakt said:
Few more months we will have note20. At that time note10/10+ will lower the price. If it were me, i would wait...
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I'm still a corded headphone user, so the Note 9's 3.5mm jack really calls to me. Also, if I went Note 10, I'd want the 5G variant for futureproofing, and by then I'm still approaching four-digit pricing, even with the N20 coming. But I might still get the 10. Tell me: Keeping in mind that specs don't mean as much now as they used to, what makes the Note 10 better aside from just being one generation newer?
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But the Note9 is better than the Note10. It has more features.
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Really? Please elaborate.

Personally, I don't think I'd recommend a Note 9 in mid 2020. With the device already 2 years old, who knows when Samsung will stop supporting it (in otherwords, sending out security updates). Furthermore, we also don't know what the last Android version is that we as Note 9 users will see. Lets say we're not eligible for an Android 11 update, we're screwed. The US variant's bootloader is locked, therefore we're unable to load any custom ROMs, much less an Android 11 (or higher) based ROM.
Now if you only want a device that works just fine, well, my Note 9 works just fine and two years later, still handles everything I throw at it. I just wish I could root it, throw on a custom ROM and still use it as a daily driver. There's one particular app I want to use (Viper4Android), that fixed my Bluetooth issues in my former device (Note 4), but the issue (being audio quality) still plagues my Note 9. Too bad my Note 4 was in such sad shape and barely able to run because of outdated hardware, otherwise I would still be on it or the root access.

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Really? Please elaborate.
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The Note9 has iris scanner, heart rate monitor, no hole on the front, has a headphone jack, has a LED notification light, the speakers are better than the Note10's (this is proven, can't give link now though), the power button is on the right side and the rear design, for me, looks way better than the newer models. Oh yeah, also the physical fingerprint scanner is way better than the in-screen one. Not to mention that you can get the 512GB storage version for half the price of the 512GB storage version of the Note10+. Force home press is also there on Note9 only.
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Personally, I don't think I'd recommend a Note 9 in mid 2020. With the device already 2 years old, who knows when Samsung will stop supporting it (in otherwords, sending out security updates). Furthermore, we also don't know what the last Android version is that we as Note 9 users will see. Lets say we're not eligible for an Android 11 update, we're screwed. The US variant's bootloader is locked, therefore we're unable to load any custom ROMs, much less an Android 11 (or higher) based ROM.
Now if you only want a device that works just fine, well, my Note 9 works just fine and two years later, still handles everything I throw at it. I just wish I could root it, throw on a custom ROM and still use it as a daily driver. There's one particular app I want to use (Viper4Android), that fixed my Bluetooth issues in my former device (Note 4), but the issue (being audio quality) still plagues my Note 9. Too bad my Note 4 was in such sad shape and barely able to run because of outdated hardware, otherwise I would still be on it or the root access.
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If the OP doesn't think that updates are the most important thing in a phone (which they're definitely not), then I don't see how that's a problem. If from all of the current Note9 features he doesn't see anything that he may want missing then updates don't matter for him. And why would we be screwed if we don't get Android 11? Note9 has had Android 8.1, Android 9, Android 10 OneUI 2.0 and soon it's getting Android 10 OneUI 2.1. I'd say that's quite a lot + it seems like Android 11 is not a major update so no new features as of now.
I'm talking about the international unlocked Exynos version btw, it has root, bootloader is unlocked and there are many custom ROMs. My advice - never buy a career branded phone. That's when you'll be really screwed xd
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About root and custom ROM stuff, it's not worth it anymore in my opinion. You lose more things than you gain. If you root you lose Secure Folder and Samsung Pay and maybe Samsung Health forever. Even if some of those can be brought back, it's a hassle. The stock OneUI ROM has many of the root-only features from the past built into it. Also I was very surprised that thanks to Dolby Atmos I didn't need nor want Viper4Android anymore I've been using V4A on both my S3 Mini and S5 before, I also rooted the S3 Mini very early after having it and the S5 on the same day as I got it so you could say I was a tinkering kind of guy But with the Note9 that changed as it has everything I'd ever want out of the box.

I bought the last 2 new note 9 from Samsung directly through there Ebay store one still in the box never opened both for 349 each let's just say I got a good deal for the price I had note 10+ for 3 days and returned it didn't care for it much. Quality isnt the same and that hole punch is obnoxious to me.

As a Note 9 user, I would say YES. But not the 6GB variant, although it is sufficient for daily use but 8GB variant is the ideal choice. With 4000mAh battery, Iris Scanner, No punch hole display, I would say if is worth to buy unless you prioritize OS updates .

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As a Note 9 user, I would say YES. But not the 6GB variant, although it is sufficient for daily use but 8GB variant is the ideal choice. With 4000mAh battery, Iris Scanner, No punch hole display, I would say if is worth to buy unless you prioritize OS updates .
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Totally agree with the above!!!:good:

I would. I have a N960U Special Edition with 512GB internal storage and 8GB Ram. I have recently downgraded the OS from Android 10 back to Android Pie due to the fact that Android 10 has issues with the Secure Folder. Which I have tried very hard to resolve. But couldn't...

I'm buying it. Looking forward to it, especially coming from a Note 4. Appreciate the advice, all.

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I'm buying it. Looking forward to it, especially coming from a Note 4. Appreciate the advice, all.
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You'll love it as I'm coming from the S5 which is a bit worse than the Note 4 in terms of specs but still same year models I didn't have money to buy Note 4 in early 2015 so now I got the best Note9 there is

I got mine month a go....never looked back.... no mid range for 350 can match it...and it has jack...
Its a no brainer...i say go for it...

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I'm buying it. Looking forward to it, especially coming from a Note 4. Appreciate the advice, all.
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I jumped from the note 4 to the 8 and quickly to the 9. Its amazing compared to the 4. I rooted all my phones and see no need now. The cameras are awesome. Hell this phone is more powerful them my laptop. Oh and dex is cool and getting better.
Note9 512GB.

I think its well worth it. If you don't plan to get the Note 20 absolutely. And I am sure they can be had for a decent price. Good luck. Don't know where you plan to buy it from. But I have helped several people over the past few weeks that have got Notes off Ebay and they had numerous issues, some were even fake. When I have purchased off Ebay I always ask seller to email pics of the actual device along with the about phone screen. Not all that buy off Ebay have issues but I know some have. Again hope you find what you're looking for.
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Have both the Note 9 and the 10+.
Both are excellent phones, though I do see a speed difference in the them. The Note 9 is, in my opinion, noticeably slower than the Note 10+, especially if I've been using the 10+ for a while. This is only noticeable for a short while until I get used to the 9 again but it certainly makes you fall in love with the speed of the 10+ again.
Both have their pro's and con's, most noticeable is the iris scanner, 3.5mm headphone jack and heart rate sensor on the Note 9 with the ToF camera, 12gb of RAM and newer updates of Android on the 10+. Also the 10+ has fast charge and is able to wirelessly charge other devices too. For every upgrade there is a loss but that works both ways...
I have both in the Exynos variant as I live outside the US so both rootable.
Overall, the Note 9 still holds it's own against most flagship devices (hell, the Note 10 lite has the internal specs of the Note 9 so you should be able to get Android 11 from there if a dev is happy to to do that), it is still a viable option if you want a flagship phone for a reduced price but just remember that there are going to be fewer updates for it and they are no longer a priority.

Hunteres said:
I got mine month a go....never looked back.... no mid range for 350 can match it...and it has jack...
Its a no brainer...i say go for it...
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macgyver40 said:
I jumped from the note 4 to the 8 and quickly to the 9. Its amazing compared to the 4. I rooted all my phones and see no need now. The cameras are awesome. Hell this phone is more powerful them my laptop. Oh and dex is cool and getting better.
Note9 512GB.
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The day has come. The Note9 arrived. Before I set it up, anything I should know about why I should/shouldn't update right out the box? Should I update to Android 10 right away, or is there any reason to do something else?

Question Mi 11 ultra in 2023

I am half tempted buying a mi 11 ultra but is it still relevant in 2023 ?
But my biggest concern is the dead wifi/Mobo since I already own a vanilla mi 11 that needed a board replacement

iBURGER said:
I am half tempted buying a mi 11 ultra but is it still relevant in 2023 ?
But my biggest concern is the dead wifi/Mobo since I already own a vanilla mi 11 that needed a board replacement
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Very happy with mine.
Was tempted to upgrade to a Pixel 7 Pro or a Honor Magic 5 Pro (I care mostly about the camera) but honestly it's very hard to justify. Pictures remain best in class even vs the latest phones, the phone is really fast, screens good. It's really hard for me so far to get tempted by a new phone. And I do want to get tempted... Maybe will need a Mi 13 Ultra or a Pixel 8 to get me to upgrade (I tend to trust DXO and they haven't ranked the Mi 13 Pro very well. Seems the 11 Ultra still does a better job overall when it goes down to the camera)
So yeah if you find a good deal on one you won't be disappointed.

Alcibiade said:
Very happy with mine.
Was tempted to upgrade to a Pixel 7 Pro or a Honor Magic 5 Pro (I care mostly about the camera) but honestly it's very hard to justify. Pictures remain best in class even vs the latest phones, the phone is really fast, screens good. It's really hard for me so far to get tempted by a new phone. And I do want to get tempted... Maybe will need a Mi 13 Ultra or a Pixel 8 to get me to upgrade (I tend to trust DXO and they haven't ranked the Mi 13 Pro very well. Seems the 11 Ultra still does a better job overall when it goes down to the camera)
So yeah if you find a good deal on one you won't be disappointed.
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Thank you for the reply that's why I am tempted to buy it especially since it's cheaper now than most snapdragon 8 gen 2 flagships with basically same specs but as I said my biggest concern is the phone dying within few months as many reported " summer can reach 45° in my area"

iBURGER said:
Thank you for the reply that's why I am tempted to buy it especially since it's cheaper now than most snapdragon 8 gen 2 flagships with basically same specs but as I said my biggest concern is the phone dying within few months as many reported " summer can reach 45° in my area"
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I live in Hong Kong, which is pretty hot in summer, and never really had heat related issues (That being, said I don't play games, so I don't hit much on the processor)
For sure if you buy it, you shouldn't pay more than half of a curent flagship price (The phone is 2 generations behind, it should really be cheap)

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I live in Hong Kong, which is pretty hot in summer, and never really had heat related issues (That being, said I don't play games, so I don't hit much on the processor)
For sure if you buy it, you shouldn't pay more than half of a curent flagship price (The phone is 2 generations behind, it should really be cheap)
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I can back you on this, I'm also in Hong Kong, Mi 11 Ultra with Global rom MIUI 13 for dinner time already, and i do game, Honkai Impact 3rd, Genshin Impact, Nikke. No heat problem and wifi issues. Great phone, especially at the current price point. Something to stand out from the all look the same phone lines out there.

I agree with all the feedback shared above. It is still a beast of a phone and runs multiple application parallely without any lag. Camera is great. If you are a AOSP fan, you have couple of good ROMs as well - PE+ and Project 404 roms.
Knock yourself out with a Mi 11 Ultra

I bought an used Mi 11 Ultra for 500 Euro a week ago and i rly like it ! I couldnt find a phone that i like more than this despite it being a 2 years old model.
It was with China ROM and 2 days ago i installed EliteRom free version (had to wait 1 week for bootloader to be unlocked). So far great experience.
I am planning to try some magisk modules i found here on the forum for underclocking for better battery life.

Hi guys can you give us info about battery performance with latest updates? Or comparisons with other phone you been using. Thanks

After a long time I try a Xiaomi device. As you can see on my posts or at my signature I use to own tons of devices. Pixels , Samsung's , and iPhones every year almost all of their flagships. Anyway I love the mi 11 ultra when released but it was way too expensive for a Chinese phone. I found one one month ago for around 300€ 256/12 white ceramic (CN version ) and give it a go . Phone is extremely snappy fast and reliable ( with Xiaomi eu Rom ) after few modification if I can say it with elite Rom and a few magisk modules like snapdragon 888 power efficient etc phone is great. Very good battery life I get easily around 7H sot with daily use ( no gaming but I use all social apps more than 7apps) phone never overheat like stock and I can say this is the fastest charging phone ever use. I can easily recommend this for a daily device in 2023. Special it the person who gonna buy it knows how to unlock bootloader and debloat this plus all the mods I mention above. Camera is also top notch that's why its still on top 15 phones of dxo ..I hope this helps cya

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After a long time I try a Xiaomi device. As you can see on my posts or at my signature I use to own tons of devices. Pixels , Samsung's , and iPhones every year almost all of their flagships. Anyway I love the mi 11 ultra when released but it was way too expensive for a Chinese phone. I found one one month ago for around 300€ 256/12 white ceramic (CN version ) and give it a go . Phone is extremely snappy fast and reliable ( with Xiaomi eu Rom ) after few modification if I can say it with elite Rom and a few magisk modules like snapdragon 888 power efficient etc phone is great. Very good battery life I get easily around 7H sot with daily use ( no gaming but I use all social apps more than 7apps) phone never overheat like stock and I can say this is the fastest charging phone ever use. I can easily recommend this for a daily device in 2023. Special it the person who gonna buy it knows how to unlock bootloader and debloat this plus all the mods I mention above. Camera is also top notch that's why its still on top 15 phones of dxo ..I hope this helps cya
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Could you mention any of the settings or steps you've done on that phone. I don't remember having a rooted cell phone. And I would like this equipment to last me several years, in addition to a screen duration of more than 4.5 hours that it is giving me
Thanks

Regioenleon said:
Could you mention any of the settings or steps you've done on that phone. I don't remember having a rooted cell phone. And I would like this equipment to last me several years, in addition to a screen duration of more than 4.5 hours that it is giving me
Thanks
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Well there is plenty of videos out there how to unlock and root a Xiaomi in 2023. After that it's easy to flash twrp and any Rom u want.. I prefer elite Rom cause it's miui based and give some extra options like 60/90/120 hz.. u can easily put the phone to FHD+ AND 90hz and get even more juice. Out of this battery. Feel free to ask anything u want .

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Well there is plenty of videos out there how to unlock and root a Xiaomi in 2023. After that it's easy to flash twrp and any Rom u want.. I prefer elite Rom cause it's miui based and give some extra options like 60/90/120 hz.. u can easily put the phone to FHD+ AND 90hz and get even more juice. Out of this battery. Feel free to ask anything u want .
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Well, I will follow the steps to root.
A question regarding that ROM, or the AOSP. Is it true that the MIUI camera doesn't work?
And yes, what I look for the most is battery performance

I don't try aosp but on this Rom miui camera is working great. . Follow the magisk modules as well I post on another thread I see u saw it .