Am I late to the party SM-T713/SM-T813? - Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi!
My Nexus 9 tablet is driving me crazy since 1st day on. I'm searching for a tablet with good ROM support and find this Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 - in variant SM-T713/SM-T813 - it's supported by lineage.
My question is to he owners of this tablet and lineage on it:
Is it worth to buy it? How is the performance with normal usage (multitasking)? Stability?

schickel said:
Hi!
My Nexus 9 tablet is driving me crazy since 1st day on. I'm searching for a tablet with good ROM support and find this Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 - in variant SM-T713/SM-T813 - it's supported by lineage.
My question is to he owners of this tablet and lineage on it:
Is it worth to buy it? How is the performance with normal usage (multitasking)? Stability?
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I also came from the Nexus 9 and feel your frustration. That thing is ready for the skip.
I was also thinking about Lineage on my T715 when I first bought it as I'd heard all the bad stories about Touchwiz. To my pleasant surprise, I've found Touchwiz to be so good, I've not even thought about rooting/lineage. The performance of this tablet has been rock solid since day 1, but could never be described as fast. Thankfully, it does everything at the same speed. No problems with refreshing Chrome tabs or launcher redraws like on the Nexus 9.
If you do take the plunge, just have in mind that this is getting long in the tooth so don't pay too much for it. You can also swap the order of the capacitive buttons using an app called, "All in one gestures," from the play store.
Let us know how you get on.

schickel said:
Hi!
My Nexus 9 tablet is driving me crazy since 1st day on. I'm searching for a tablet with good ROM support and find this Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 - in variant SM-T713/SM-T813 - it's supported by lineage.
My question is to he owners of this tablet and lineage on it:
Is it worth to buy it? How is the performance with normal usage (multitasking)? Stability?
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In my opinion it is an excellent tablet both with performance and stability. I have been running Omni Rom 8.1.0 for several months and I couldn't be happier with it. Even while I was on stock I had no issues with it. I picked my T813 up about 18 months ago on eBay for way below the going price. The price for a "New (other)" from the same dealer I bought mine is currently $260. He provides a really good 1 year warranty and has a very fair return policy. The going price for a Tab S3 is $390 which I think is way overpriced for it.
Just my opinion and you know what they say about those.

pastorbob62 said:
In my opinion it is an excellent tablet both with performance and stability. I have been running Omni Rom 8.1.0 for several months and I couldn't be happier with it. Even while I was on stock I had no issues with it. I picked my T813 up about 18 months ago on eBay for way below the going price. The price for a "New (other)" from the same dealer I bought mine is currently $260. He provides a really good 1 year warranty and has a very fair return policy. The going price for a Tab S3 is $390 which I think is way overpriced for it.
Just my opinion and you know what they say about those.
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Thank you.
I've got one new for 230 Euro in ebay.
2 things are terrible with this tablet and lineage
1. Can't charge over night the tablet to 100% - slow charging
2. Something eats battery in flight mode and display is off. - 25% in 4 hours. Can't find the reason for this
Everything else is top, but these 2 points are the killer

schickel said:
Thank you.
I've got one new for 230 Euro in ebay.
2 things are terrible with this tablet and lineage
1. Can't charge over night the tablet to 100% - slow charging
2. Something eats battery in flight mode and display is off. - 25% in 4 hours. Can't find the reason for this
Everything else is top, but these 2 points are the killer
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1. I noticed the same thing on my charger, however when I plugged the tablet into my phone charger it charged up much faster and had no problem reaching 100% overnight.
2, I don't have a clue about that. It must be specific to your tablet. I have been running for 3 days and 6 hours and still have 37%. That is with moderate usage playing Hay Day and Word Crumble some as well as some reading.

I've flashed omni and there is the same. Over night from 80% to 7% without display on, without using any app. That's apolutly a no go.
Now back to crap - Nexus 9
Sadly google stopped supporting tablets.
Samsung is bad because bad software support (look S8/S9 and oreo updates). With my S6 Edge I had also problems that I decided no Samsung anymore. I did it again and now the Tab S2 is going the same way back to eBay, if I get it charged to 100% in 2 days... .
Totally disappointed

I think that you had bad luck.
I've t719,LTE version,and the battery life it's very good.Usually,the LTE version it's more intense battery killer,but I managed to squeeze two days without charging,without games,only browsing,music,email.
Something it's wrong,try to buy from another source.
Cheers

viasat said:
I think that you had bad luck.
I've t719,LTE version,and the battery life it's very good.Usually,the LTE version it's more intense battery killer,but I managed to squeeze two days without charging,without games,only browsing,music,email.
Something it's wrong,try to buy from another source.
Cheers
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With Stock battery seems to be ok. But lineage and other 8.1 is very bad. And I bought this tablet because of these custom ROMs. Samsung is not supporting this tablet for 8.0/8.1 so I thought it will be nice with 8.1, I thought.... It will.....

Now I understand.
If so,you don't have many choices with good tablets with custom roms support.
At 8" screen,almost no choices,because Mediapad M3 and M5 from Huawei are not so popular.
Cheers

Yeah.... And Huawei closed his bootloader, so no chance for any custom ROM.
And how I've read the news, Google cancel his support to their tabs. Let's see what the future brings

A little bit off-topic,but I think that not the bootloader it's the problem of the Huawei mediapads,but the proprietary SOC,Kirin.
Even with bootloader unlocked,the third party development for Kirin it's almost inexistant.
Cheers

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Why should i buy Nexus 6?

Dear Folks,
I am about to buy and phone and i am reading and reading reviews about Nexus 6 vs Note 4, i don't know what to buy because after reading all that my mind is not working well, could you please help me to choose what phone should i have?
P.S i heard battery life on Nexus 6 is not good, is it true? :fingers-crossed:
Battery life is great on the Nexus 6 especially on Marshmallow. Under 30% a day with full time data and wifi and moderate use. I only use Battery Saving location, it"s accurate enough unless you're navigating your car.
As for the question itself, I too was choosing between these two, but I was searching for a device to develop on rather than just use it, so it clearly made the decision easy. First in Europe the official unlocked device is the Exynos one, I didn't want a locked device, it's a nuisance and since I was about to trip Knox the first day, it's a phone you can't sell later.
So the Note 4 has a better camera, it's not as huge (I had a Note 3 before), and the S-Pen that I never really used, but other people love it.
Also before I decided to buy a new phone for development, I was already using cm12.1 on my Note 3, and was looking for something even more stock than cyanogenmod. So there was not an option for me to go Touchwiz again.
So if you make up your mind what you are wanting this phone for, then I hope I helped to choose.
Dear @istperson all i am concerned about is little bit good battery life which help me to spend full day with wifi and data usage, i am not a developer, i also don't like S-Pen at all, i used S5 and touchwiz was lagging all the times, CM themer is available for Nexus 6 right? i think i will go with Nexus 6 its beautiful phone with large screen but i still find Note 4 screen more better than Nexus 6, what do you think?
Battery life for me is great 40% at least at the end of the day. Speakers are stellar as is the screen, camera is good can't complain.
I just bought an N6 about 2 months ago, and I have loved every second of it. I came from a Samsung Galaxy S3, so I would definitely not recommend buying a note 4. I am amazed that I was able to handle a GS3 for that long given how locked-down the software was. It took me no time to unlock, flash TWRP, root, and get a custom ROM running on my Nexus, whereas I was never able to do more than Xposed + root on my old phone. The software is amazing (and can be whatever you want it to be), the camera is nice (except for some strange autofocus bugs), and everything works like a charm.
As far as battery, I usually got 3 hrs SOT over about 18hrs (wifi, 4g, location, and always-on voice all turned on) running stock. With my current setup with Chroma ROM and kernel, I got 4hrs SOT over 18hrs yesterday even with a strange bug that caused mobile radio to suck up a third of my battery. Plus with Doze, standby time is unbeatable.
Hands down, go with a Nexus. I'm never going back.
I bought my nexus 6 a month ago and it is amazing! My battery life on stock was around 5 - 5.5 SOT, but now, after unlocking and rooting, with custom kernel and doze I get around 6-7 SOT!! Keep in mind that I don't use location, brightness is often on low levels, data is on 3G, but I am web surfing a lot, watching youtube, on tapatalk and whats app. Also nexus 6 will be among firsts to receive latest updates, patches and bug fixes straight from google. The speakers are really loud and great, and you get used to phone's size very fast. Camera is ok, nothing special, works just fine with third party apps...
Nexus screen is gorgeous (same resolution as Note 4 at Quad HD) but not as bright, most likely. Nexus will have no lag, and the battery should be no problem getting through a day

Anybody moving on to other flagship?

So I think this is it, I'm getting annoyed with TW once again ?. All those little lags, jitters, disabling DVFS helps but not that much, whatever.
So the obvious question, has any one of you moved to any flagship phone from Note 4, which was worth it? AOSP based mostly I was thinking anyway. I am ready to give up on display and screen size and probably even camera LOL, (what else are there anyway?) and was thinking about HTC 10, what do you think, worth it?
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Did you try rooting the note 4 and running CM rom? It works very well, you'll have all the specs of note 4 and an AOSP rom as well.
Regards,
Tejas
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I don't find touchwiz much annoying while weighing it's features against the small lags. I got used to multi-windows & Shealth stuff. I don't experience much lags in marshmallow custom rom with s7 Ports(Dr.Ketan's rom & Nameless rom). If my pocket allows I will go for Note 7 later this year
im sell my htc M9Plus and buy note 4, after rooting this phone is aBeast
Yes, I am moving to Mi Max 128GB.. like MIUI ROM.
tejas986 said:
Did you try rooting the note 4 and running CM rom? It works very well, you'll have all the specs of note 4 and an AOSP rom as well.
Regards,
Tejas
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LOL root really? That was done in less than an hour of getting the phone man. But which CM could I run on my G version without any problem? I did flash CM Remix few days ago, and it gave me at least dozens of errors in less than 10 minutes, never saw anything like that ever in my life, so came back to TW. Also CM messes up with camera photo quality right? And makes the fingerprint scanner invalid? And S Heath sensors too?
ithehappy said:
LOL root really? That was done in less than an hour of getting the phone man. But which CM could I run on my G version without any problem? I did flash CM Remix few days ago, and it gave me at least dozens of errors in less than 10 minutes, never saw anything like that ever in my life, so came back to TW. Also CM messes up with camera photo quality right? And makes the fingerprint scanner invalid? And S Heath sensors too?
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I never faced any problems when I had installed it. But I always tried the build from here:
https://www.cmxlog.com/12.1/trltexx/
Regards,
Tejas
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I agree with you..Well too many options available new flagships came out the new moto z and one plus 3 but i guess you better wait for the note 6 aka note 7 coming out in august..
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I've not had any major problems with my N910C after updating to Marshmallow. I've experienced the odd lag here and there but works great 98% of the time.
If I loose my note 4 tomorrow, I'll buy a second hand Note 4 the day after. I haven't been able to find a worthy replacement for it, and the main reason is the Spen. I am a heavy Spen user and, unfortunately, my options are very limited. Note 5 is not an option (no SDcard, no removable battery), note 7 won't have a replacement battery, so I will probably stick with Note 4 until further notice!
Melissakis said:
If I loose my note 4 tomorrow, I'll buy a second hand Note 4 the day after. I haven't been able to find a worthy replacement for it, and the main reason is the Spen. I am a heavy Spen user and, unfortunately, my options are very limited. Note 5 is not an option (no SDcard, no removable battery), note 7 won't have a replacement battery, so I will probably stick with Note 4 until further notice!
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Yep, my biggest gripe.
Don't care how awesome the battery is, once it's flat, it's flat... I have both the Note 4 and the Note Edge, having the spare batteries gets me through the times when I can't charge it.
For those who say to use a battery pack, that's unnecessary weight in my pocket, lugging around a battery pack attached to the phone don't need to tear pockets from weight of pack). To change the battery I remove the spare from my bag, remove the old and slap in he new. Old battery back in the bag and I'm happy...
ultramag69 said:
Yep, my biggest gripe.
Don't care how awesome the battery is, once it's flat, it's flat... I have both the Note 4 and the Note Edge, having the spare batteries gets me through the times when I can't charge it.
For those who say to use a battery pack, that's unnecessary weight in my pocket, lugging around a battery pack attached to the phone don't need to tear pockets from weight of pack). To change the battery I remove the spare from my bag, remove the old and slap in he new. Old battery back in the bag and I'm happy...
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That's the one aspect of the importance of the removable battery. The other one is the serviceability.
I've been using my Note 4 for 18 months and the battery started behaving strangely, not holding up as it used to, sudden drops etc. Off to the store, paid €25, bought a new one, put it on, new phone!
I move to ios and its great. still have the note 4 cause of the spen. Waiting for note 7 and see if it is worth it. If not maybe trying to get the win 10 phone.
Waiting for note 6(7), will buy on release if it has sd slot, don't care about removable battery at all.
The importance of having a removable battery is the power capacity of the battery itself so if you do get 4000mah with the note 7 why do you need a removable battery!! Indeed it's an option but not quite necessary..
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Nope, staying and waitin for Note 7. What I have learnt is that with every brand there will be somethings I don't like and Samsung has the least of those, so I am happy with Galaxy Note range for the next 2years or so.
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Thanks all for the feedback, except two I am still confused. I wish these times I was a simple minded person like my parents who couldn't tell difference between Android and Nokia 1200, whatever.
I have been checking the HTC 10 section every now and then, and this is what I gather:
- Better camera
- Better build (Obviously!)
- Significantly better support from XDA, and its beyond argument that Sense is lighter and better than TouchWiz
- Class leading audio, but I don't really care about that!
But a smaller and inferior display, however if display is pixel perfect then that's acceptable, no S Pen, no S Health sensors, and more importantly still pretty steep price wise, but waiting like a month will cool it down a bit I suppose.
Thinking....thinking...
Awaiting for note7!!!!
N-910F
ithehappy said:
Thanks all for the feedback, except two I am still confused. I wish these times I was a simple minded person like my parents who couldn't tell difference between Android and Nokia 1200, whatever.
I have been checking the HTC 10 section every now and then, and this is what I gather:
- Better camera
- Better build (Obviously!)
- Significantly better support from XDA, and its beyond argument that Sense is lighter and better than TouchWiz
- Class leading audio, but I don't really care about that!
But a smaller and inferior display, however if display is pixel perfect then that's acceptable, no S Pen, no S Health sensors, and more importantly still pretty steep price wise, but waiting like a month will cool it down a bit I suppose.
Thinking....thinking...
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The Notes have one killer feature, and one thing only, the Spen. If you can do without it, then there are plenty of other options out there. If you can't do without it, then you have no option.
Melissakis said:
If I loose my note 4 tomorrow, I'll buy a second hand Note 4 the day after. I haven't been able to find a worthy replacement for it, and the main reason is the Spen. I am a heavy Spen user and, unfortunately, my options are very limited. Note 5 is not an option (no SDcard, no removable battery), note 7 won't have a replacement battery, so I will probably stick with Note 4 until further notice!
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You can easily get a brand new one at a very reasonable price. In fact the price has actually dropped £100 more at the online retailer where I purchased mine from last year!
Melissakis said:
That's the one aspect of the importance of the removable battery. The other one is the serviceability.
I've been using my Note 4 for 18 months and the battery started behaving strangely, not holding up as it used to, sudden drops etc. Off to the store, paid €25, bought a new one, put it on, new phone!
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That is the main reason why I got the Note 4 last year! Instead of getting the SGS6 or the Note 5. As I like having the ability to replace the battery myself without having to open up the whole phone or take it into a store to get it replaced. As we all know that the first thing to start to degrade in any mobile device is the battery. So having the ability to replace it easily ourselves is a good thing. Shame that all android OEMs are have removed this feature from their device's designs.

Tab S2 with Lineage - Worthy replacement for Galaxy Note 10.1 2014?

Dear xda - Developers,
a few months ago my trusty Laptop broke and I started using my Tablet again. After getting myself an ergonomical bluetooth keyboard and upgrading to Lineag 14 I fell more and more in love with it. I never thaught, you could do some serious work on a tablet, but after a while I got my stuff done quicker and I was even more mobile, than on my Laptop.
However since a few weeks the battery on my Note 2014 only lats about 4 to 5 hours, while taking nearly a whole day to recharge (after a normal night which is about 8 hours for me, its at about 50%). It seems like the battery is giving up the ghosts to a point where I just cant really work on it any more.
So I am in search for a worthy replacement, but sadly the market seemed a little thin. I was very open minded and even looked beyond the usual suspects, considering Chuwi, Xiaomi etc. But reading reviews, every of those tablets revealed some mayor drawbacks. However I dont want to make a step back. I want my new tablet to have at least the same specs as my Galaxy Note 2014 (except the stylus support which i never used too much).
Sinnce Samsung has this 100 EUR cashback deal going on right now, I could however get a S2 for under 300 EUR, which seems to be a fair price. I am however concerned about its power and its battery life. The battery supposedly only offers around 6 hours and the SOC seems to be a very mediocre choice as far as the reviews are concerned. Also, it seems like many Samsung devices (like mine) seem to have battery issues after only 3 to years.
However I dont see a real alternative in the price range under 400 EUR. The would be the Asus Zenpad which however seems to suffer from heavy thermal throtteling. If the S2 really only offers 6 Hours of Battery life, I might even consider getting the iPad 2017, whcih would be sad since I really love many of my android apps AND Lineage OS.
So does any of you have experience in spendig a whole working day on the S2 or can maybe even name a reliable alternative instead of the ipad?
Hi,
I will go with Tab s2 9.7" since it close to your old device. I'm using 8.0 version. but to be honest i don't have any problem using it for the whole day. well at least not on very heavy usage. just normal work job word processing, excel and such. i rarely bring my notebook anymore. even presentation to customer will hook up the device to projector and present away. could last me at least around 8 hours heavy usage with around 10% battery left. hook up a fast powerbank it charge back in an hour.
Any way the problem here is the lack of development on lineage or custom roms nowadays. The exynos version T815 will have lineage. But if you have T819... which is the newer version of tab s2 release on 2016 still did not have any dev for lineage.
MrAnthony said:
Dear xda - Developers,
a few months ago my trusty Laptop broke and I started using my Tablet again. After getting myself an ergonomical bluetooth keyboard and upgrading to Lineag 14 I fell more and more in love with it. I never thaught, you could do some serious work on a tablet, but after a while I got my stuff done quicker and I was even more mobile, than on my Laptop.
However since a few weeks the battery on my Note 2014 only lats about 4 to 5 hours, while taking nearly a whole day to recharge (after a normal night which is about 8 hours for me, its at about 50%). It seems like the battery is giving up the ghosts to a point where I just cant really work on it any more.
So I am in search for a worthy replacement, but sadly the market seemed a little thin. I was very open minded and even looked beyond the usual suspects, considering Chuwi, Xiaomi etc. But reading reviews, every of those tablets revealed some mayor drawbacks. However I dont want to make a step back. I want my new tablet to have at least the same specs as my Galaxy Note 2014 (except the stylus support which i never used too much).
Sinnce Samsung has this 100 EUR cashback deal going on right now, I could however get a S2 for under 300 EUR, which seems to be a fair price. I am however concerned about its power and its battery life. The battery supposedly only offers around 6 hours and the SOC seems to be a very mediocre choice as far as the reviews are concerned. Also, it seems like many Samsung devices (like mine) seem to have battery issues after only 3 to years.
However I dont see a real alternative in the price range under 400 EUR. The would be the Asus Zenpad which however seems to suffer from heavy thermal throtteling. If the S2 really only offers 6 Hours of Battery life, I might even consider getting the iPad 2017, whcih would be sad since I really love many of my android apps AND Lineage OS.
So does any of you have experience in spendig a whole working day on the S2 or can maybe even name a reliable alternative instead of the ipad?
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Honestly go for the tab s3 but you can still go for the tab s2 but it's 2 years old by now ..
Androbots said:
Honestly go for the tab s3 but you can still go for the tab s2 but it's 2 years old by now ..
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OP mentioned Lineage, and there are no ROMs out for the S3. Personally I won't but any device that does't have Lineage (previously CM). I actually just ordered a Tab S2 (T813) this morning to replace my Nexus 7 (2013). They dropped to $349 on Amazon this morning.
Same reason I bought an Honor 5x even though the 6x was out. When the OnePlus5 gets Official Lineage, that may replace my Nexus 5X.
Just saying that maybe a reason to go with the S2, just as there is ROMs available now.
S3 simply is a crappy value for money deal. Its 620 EUR around here for the 32 GB version. For aroud 500 EUR I can get an iPad pro 9.7. I am no apple faboy mind you, but according to all tests the iPad blows the TabS 3 out of the water in every aspect. Also in some benchmarks its supposedly around 150% faster. Also I get the slight feeling that the batterys of many samsung-devices start to degenerate shortly the warranty is over....
Even I, who is a big Android fan, would take the iPad in this case...
I'm in exactly the same situation.
I don't really care about the pen anymore, so I'm opting for the Tab S2 series.
However, LineageOS is still a problem, there doesn't seem to be anything for the Snapdragon model (T819) which is the one that's usually sold here.

is it still worth the cost ?

Hello everyone, I want to buy the Note 9 because it has many things that the others don't have. I heard that the battery was bad since Android Pie, is it true ? I'm from France so, it will be an Exynos version, which one do you have and can you say if you have any problem with the phone since you have it ?
Sorry for my bad english, i'm don't speak english fluently...
I want a phone which can be usable for 3 years minimum
I have the US version and have no complaints whatsoever. Display is amazing, performance with gaming is flawless, and theming is nearly endless. Screen on time is also great.
My Exynos version gets really good battery, especially after Pie update. I think its different for different users.
I have 5hours and 40 minutes screen on time today, with around 23% battery remaining.
Fawora said:
Hello everyone, I want to buy the Note 9 because it has many things that the others don't have. I heard that the battery was bad since Android Pie, is it true ? I'm from France so, it will be an Exynos version, which one do you have and can you say if you have any problem with the phone since you have it ?
Sorry for my bad english, i'm don't speak english fluently...
I want a phone which can be usable for 3 years minimum
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Hey and greetings to France from Neighbour Germany :highfive:
To your question..
It depends on your personal usagecase. Means that runtimes are very diffrent from User to User. At the beginnig with Pie, my runtime was overall Bad. But from Update to Update things getting better and better for me. Now its nearly on Oreo runtime so far..
Oh and they killed some feautures with Pie. For example Wifi WPS and Multiscreen Window that you can PIN 2 apps on one Screen side by side.
Anyway Pie getting better with the Updates so you can give it a try and if you not good with it..bring it back within 14 days and you get your Money back
Hope this helped you a bit..
Cheers :good:
Treasarion said:
Hey and greetings to France from Neighbour Germany :highfive:
To your question..
It depends on your personal usagecase. Means that runtimes are very diffrent from User to User. At the beginnig with Pie, my runtime was overall Bad. But from Update to Update things getting better and better for me. Now its nearly on Oreo runtime so far..
Oh and they killed some feautures with Pie. For example Wifi WPS and Multiscreen Window that you can PIN 2 apps on one Screen side by side.
Anyway Pie getting better with the Updates so you can give it a try and if you not good with it..bring it back within 14 days and you get your Money back
Hope this helped you a bit..
Cheers :good:
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Thank you my friend, I will try.
And I have a Galaxy s8, so I have the same updates I think
Just wanted to put my 2 cents in here:
I just switched from my Pixel 3XL, back to the Note 9.
Samsung just KILLS it in the hardware department.
The battery life is still the best I've had on a phone (I have the US, Snapdragon model) - Screen is amazing with no notch at all, just a pleasure to hold and use. Features are abundant, got my FAST wireless charging back. I can bog this down with technical reasons why I switched back (screen resolution in "full screen", MST payments, and more) but I don't want to bog this down.
To your question, is it "worth" it right now?
If you can get a good price on it, yes.
If you are looking near 1000 USD, then:
If you don't need the S-PEN then get an S10 Plus.
- or -
wait for the Note10
I used to use Note9 (Exynos with Android 9). Overall, it is a very good phone with decent life (If you consider 5 hours SOT as decent). However, with same battery capacity on Huawei Mate20, I could get no less than 8 hours SOT).
The battery when running Android9 on day 1 is REALLY BAD. Within a week, the phone will put apps in the background process that you don't frequently use into sleep then the battery life will be better (On my Huawei Mate 20, it kill all background processing apps since day 1 and I have to manually allow each app if I want it to run in the background. Thus a lot better battery life).
I just sold my S10+ and just ordered Note9 to use it again. The price in my country (Thailand) is 750usd (128GB). I think this price is still worth buying.
My battery life under Pie has been better by a good margin VS Oreo (Snapdragon variant)
Treasarion said:
Hey and greetings to France from Neighbour Germany :highfive:
To your question..
It depends on your personal usagecase. Means that runtimes are very diffrent from User to User. At the beginnig with Pie, my runtime was overall Bad. But from Update to Update things getting better and better for me. Now its nearly on Oreo runtime so far..
Oh and they killed some feautures with Pie. For example Wifi WPS and Multiscreen Window that you can PIN 2 apps on one Screen side by side.
Anyway Pie getting better with the Updates so you can give it a try and if you not good with it..bring it back within 14 days and you get your Money back
Hope this helped you a bit..
Cheers :good:
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You can still do split-screen with Pie. When you open Recents, touch and hold the icon on the top of each app-tile.
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Fawora said:
Hello everyone, I want to buy the Note 9 because it has many things that the others don't have. I heard that the battery was bad since Android Pie, is it true ? I'm from France so, it will be an Exynos version, which one do you have and can you say if you have any problem with the phone since you have it ?
Sorry for my bad english, i'm don't speak english fluently...
I want a phone which can be usable for 3 years minimum
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I just bought my Snapdragon Note 9 for 635 USD (was $1000 when it first came out).
I updated to Pie immediately before installing any apps, and this is the best phone OS I've had yet, and I've tried a few ROMs in the past (don't want to root anymore; this is near perfect). Yesterday I was watching YouTube while simultaneously split-screening back and forth between internet browser and my chat with family for two hours straight, and in that two hours my battery went from 82% to 71%. That's 11%! On my Galaxy S7 with Oreo, that would have drained my battery almist 50%
any major difference between the exynos and the SD variants?
gruuvin said:
You can still do split-screen with Pie. When you open Recents, touch and hold the icon on the top of each app-tile.
Thank you ! Dont know about this :highfive:
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se7enlyn said:
any major difference between the exynos and the SD variants?
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SD is a bit faster ( in benchmarks but I never noticed any real life difference), Exynos gives more freedom like custom roms and root
To answer the OP, yes the N9 is still worth every penny. It still is the most complete device on the market, the only all in one device. I sold mine and had a Mate 20 Pro for a month just to come back to the N9 because I actually missed it to much.
patensas said:
SD is a bit faster ( in benchmarks but I never noticed any real life difference), Exynos gives more freedom like custom roms and root
To answer the OP, yes the N9 is still worth every penny. It still is the most complete device on the market, the only all in one device. I sold mine and had a Mate 20 Pro for a month just to come back to the N9 because I actually missed it to much.
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Thank you
Fawora said:
Hello everyone, I want to buy the Note 9 because it has many things that the others don't have. I heard that the battery was bad since Android Pie, is it true ? I'm from France so, it will be an Exynos version, which one do you have and can you say if you have any problem with the phone since you have it ?
Sorry for my bad english, i'm don't speak english fluently...
I want a phone which can be usable for 3 years minimum
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Of course its worth to buy one.
Its one of the best Smartphones/Phablets. It has very Good Graphics and the Display ist exciting.
When you are a Guy who travels a lot its good to you.
US Amazon is selling the Note9 Exynos for about $619. Much better price than before.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
Best phone I've ever owned honestly

anyone still here? the note 4 continues to impress me....

Yeah.
It really was a great phone.
How long now? 4 years? 5?
The screen is still fantastic. Big and wide and great definition and deep blacks.
The pen is not trying to do too many things.
The back cover comes off - and there's the battery.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
And the lovely metal work is elegant all the time.
It still manages all the games fine, boots fast, is quick with apps.
It's the best ok phone I've had - and I've had them all.
The note 10 is the first one that comes close. I like that they've kept it slim
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
Why, of course, the battery is sealed now. Otherwise not much reason to upgrade year on year anymore. Phones are not leaps and bounds better from a few years ago. Only add gimmicks like in screen finger reader. Older flagship speed is enough if you don't play games. This world is sad.
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Long may it last!
I haven't found an equivalent replacement yet. Sadly, iR control in restaurant/bar TVs seems to be declining...
I have the SM-N910C and I live in Brazil.
I bought it new in 2016 and until today never gave problem. The battery is still great. I almost bought Note 8 or 9 recently, as I needed more internal memory, but solved the problem by going back to Android 5.1.1 (WanamLite, which I've used once for a long time).
I was almost 9 Gb free. Now you will be much longer with me. The device is fantastic.
N910F is still my daily driver! I have modded the cr*p out of it, feels so good, fast, smooth. Hope to be able to use it for 4 to 5 more years.
Bought a LG V20 for my girlfriend, 130 euro. Might also be an option for me, in case my Note 4 breaks down.
BACK BUTTON TO KILL app (only works once)
I fully agree with you aboyut Note4. I bought my wife one and she wanted a 10. I told her I could make the guts do the same thing (plus I can't see spending arms and legs for the most rapidly depreciating item). I've got 128 memory card, one of those massive multiple day batteries, round magnet charger mini USB that jumps on (no plugging), happy as a clam!
Does anyone on earth know of an apk that won't turn off after 1 use back button to kill app? That's my favorite function and I can't stand not being able to close them as I finish except those I return to. I have the apk but I have to keep going into settings, turning it back on for a one time use. Ive searched programming apps but there's none on earth I see that will do the job, and my OS doesn't allow it (I'm still trying to get a custom ROM but having no luck, bricked my other phone yesterday (I think bad CPU sector somewhere based on symptoms).
Hello, I'm currently on a OnePlus 5 but think that it's really overrated coming from my mod friendly S5 mini. I plan on maybe going back to an older phone, because I don't really need performance for anything except Dolphin and Citra Emulator (the MMJ variants of course) but I'd be willing to sacrifice it, since I've seen myself using it only rarely anyway, but I'm a little concerned about 1. The community, since it's an old phone, even though it's a really loved phone. 2. The stylus - does it work on custom ROMs? 3. The battery - I'd definitely buy a 3rd party battery, since the originals will have lost a LOT of capacity, but going from a 10nm SoC (SD 835) to a 20nm one (Exynos 5433) is a little concerning. (4. The kernel and modding sector - Are there good kernels from honest people, not guys like franciscofranco, and mods?) I'd really appreciate answers, maybe I could be helpful because I'm still very young but pretty experienced with modding, development and that stuff, even though I don't even own an x86 desktop and don't even speak english as a native language.
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
GameShadow7 said:
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
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My depend on what version N4 you have?
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GameShadow7 said:
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
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It may depend on what version of the Note 4 you have or if you know how to port roms. For instance, i have a n910p and locked to the fused5,binary4 aboot preventing downgreading the bootloader. So stuck on 6.0 MM, so thrat sucks but the n910f is very similar in compatibility so that opens up other options. Theres also a GRX touchwiz home mod V8 that is pretty cool.
Im running a combination of Dtux Rom with an N7 custum kernel by freeza r61 and GRX V8 along with. alll sorts of ports from different develops. Thats just part of what I have done with the old N4.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...are-customizations-mods-roms-kernels-t3960353
Still Have My Note 4 & Note 7
The Note 4 with Android 6 still serves very nicely as a work phone. At the office, it does everything I need very well. The Note 4 is a better phone than my mom's Galaxy J7 from 2018. But for fun and photography, my Note 7 rocks. Those two Note models remain my favorite. I gave my Note 8 to my wife.
kolembo said:
Yeah.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
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Could you expand on the camera cover statement please Kolembo ... how, from where ?
Agree wholeheartedly ... The Note 4 still rocks,
Cheers .... Alan.
Note 4 was best choice am happy with my note 4
Now am using s10 plus & note 4 ♡
Note 4 is still my favorite of all phones I have had.
I am considering the Xiaomi Mi 9 lite.
It has quite a lot of features of the Note 4: iR port, SD card, oled, earphone plug.
No removable battery, no pen, no barometer. Oh, and doesn't cover so many bands. B12 seems missing.
Would also have some advantages over Note 4: faster, security updates, bigger screen, FM radio (ha), longer battery life, better bluetooth.
I love my note 4. It covers so many functions such as tv remote, portable mp3 player, book reader and movie player. I also love the fact that I can swap out deodexed roms and custom roms at will to enhance the device's longetivity. I do believe that there is no other phone quite like it on the market so I guess thats why I bought a back up note 4 many years ago ??
Yup we're still building
10 Android ROMs and counting.
Plus Ubuntu touch !
I am wondering if my Note 4 is finally dead. I love the phone and was hoping to still be using it but a few hours ago the phone just froze so I just removed the battery. After that, I put the battery back in and it wouldn't power up. I left the battery out for a 20-30 mintues and then put it back it. It was able to power on but after the Tmobil splash screen it goes to the screen before going to the home screen and when I swipe nothing happens. I am afraid my Note has finally given up after years of service. Is everyone else's Note 4 still kicking?
kolembo said:
Yeah.
It really was a great phone.
How long now? 4 years? 5?
The screen is still fantastic. Big and wide and great definition and deep blacks.
The pen is not trying to do too many things.
The back cover comes off - and there's the battery.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
And the lovely metal work is elegant all the time.
It still manages all the games fine, boots fast, is quick with apps.
It's the best ok phone I've had - and I've had them all.
The note 10 is the first one that comes close. I like that they've kept it slim
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
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After several update over last year the phone started to be very slow. The final blow came beginning Dec 2019 when it did restart by itself and did install then 1 app. Usually will ask me for this. Since then the battery drains 10 times faster. So it is obvious that the update was meant to make me buy a new phone... But I like soo much the note 4.
First I did a factory resent. Did not help at all. Then I did flash it with Odin - now it works soooo fast, better than the new phones. But the battery drain continues. Fully charged in the evening I leave it in flight mode. In the morning the battery is only 50%. And this is with a new original Samsung battery I just bought. Will a re-flash with nand erase help? Does anyone have experience with this?
Andrey12 said:
After several update over last year the phone started to be very slow. The final blow came beginning Dec 2019 when it did restart by itself and did install then 1 app. Usually will ask me for this. Since then the battery drains 10 times faster. So it is obvious that the update was meant to make me buy a new phone... But I like soo much the note 4.
First I did a factory resent. Did not help at all. Then I did flash it with Odin - now it works soooo fast, better than the new phones. But the battery drain continues. Fully charged in the evening I leave it in flight mode. In the morning the battery is only 50%. And this is with a new original Samsung battery I just bought. Will a re-flash with nand erase help? Does anyone have experience with this?
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Is it hard for you to find or buy another Note 4 battery? I know it's old by today's standards but I would assume there might still be some new third-party batteries for it. I still have 2 new batteries from Anker when bought two extra for the device a year or two ago. Good luck on trying to find something.

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