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Powersaving / extend battery life
On rooted and non-rooted Note 4 devices.
There are quite a few battery saving tools on the playstore market. However, most of these tools only use what your device can already do by itself. Besides that, it is one more app that can and will consume power so the overall effect of these apps is very limited.
Here is a lot of stuff you can do by yourself to save power and increase battery life. Although most forum users will already have some knowledge on the way your phone works I will begin this post with the most obvious tips on power saving.
Obviously, the list below is a list of possibilities, and not a list of stuff you should do immediately while reading this post. Just look carefully which functions you really use which you don’t. Every option can save a little bit of battery, but together they make quite a difference.
I am quite a heavy user and at this point my phone can do 1,5 to 2 full days without a charge.
General:
1 Turn your GPS of if you are not using it
2 Turn your Wifi of when not using it
3 Turn your Bluetooth of when… (you get the idea)
4 Same goes for NFC
System settings:
Display and wallpaper:
Use auto brightness and set it to your liking. There 10 different levels of auto brightness. I have found that level 2 or 3 is not only sufficient but friendlier to my eyes.
If you really want to get most out of your battery, it’s possible to have a completely black wallpaper image. Black doesn’t take any power so this will save you a lot during a full day of work. I always have one black wallpaper in my preferred wallpaper list.
Smart stay. With smart stay on, the device will stay on while looking at it. Now you can reduce the screen time out mode to 15 seconds. Actually works pretty well and saves a lot of power.
Activate auto adjust screen tone.
Turn daydream off.
Turn led indicator off.
Touch key light duration on “always off” or 1,5 seconds.
Increase touch sensitivity off.
Lockscreen:
It really helps if your lock screen just has a black wallpaper.
Unless you really need to, don’t make your screen lock too complicated. The fingerprint scanner seems pretty cool but really isn’t. It often takes several swipes to get it to work and that takes power as well.
Personally I use non at home and a simple pattern outside. I use the tasker app to automate this but I will talk some more about specific apps after the general settings.
Multiwindow:
Although the multi-window function is one of the things that makes the Note series the king of Phablets, a lot of users hardly ever use these functions. If you are one of these users, turn this function off. The hone keeps checking which apps you can or can’t use in this function evertime you open an app, or open your recent apps. This takes power and CPU.
Even if you are a multi window user, the 2 listed options:
Open in split screen view & pop up view shortcut aren’t used by many. If you don’t use them, turn them off.
S pen:
Same thing here, look at the options You really use during the day.
I do find Air command a very useful function and personally I always keep it on. If you don’t use it, you know what to do by now.
Under Air view there are the following options to turn off if not used by you:
Information preview / Preview info, extend text, or enlarge pictures hovering over them
Icon Labels / View the labels of icon by hovering over them
List scrolling / Scroll up or down by holding the pen over the edge of the screen
Link preview / Hovering over a link will show you a preview of the page
Air menu / Hover the pen over the action or attach button to add content or contacts
Motions and gestures:
Again. Turn everything off that you are not using.
Direct call / By bringing the phone to your ear it will call the contact on the screen
Smart alert / Device will vibrate when you pick it up to notify you about missed calls and messages
Mute/pause / I don’t think this option will affect your battery life
Palm swipe to capture / I have no idea who thought this would be a good option to add. Turn it off if you agree.
Cloud:
I have rooted and installed ROMS and apps on many phones of friends. What seems odd to me is that most people have at least 3 cloud storage spaces were the automatically store all their pictures. Some them even had 4 or 5 without realizing.
1 Samsung account,
2 Picasa / google,
3 Dropbox.
One of these will do just fine. You can have more but just don’t let them auto-upload your camera pics. If every picture you take has to upload to 3 or more different cloud spaces, your device will be working more than it should have to.
Backup data:
Same story. Pick one. Stick to it. Don’t have 3 backup accounts.
Accessibility:
Vision and hearing / Turn off unless you need them
Dexterity and interaction :
• Assistant menu / Off
• Air wake up / Off
• Press and hold delay / 0.5 seconds
• Interaction control / Off
Direct access / Off
Answering / ending calls / Look at what suits you best. Picking up quickly will save battery over the phone ringing longer.
Powersaving:
Whats in a name ha? The powersaving mode can be adjusted which means you can get to saave power in the way you find most efficient.
The options are:
1 Restrict background data.
• This option limits the stuff you can do on your phone rather drastically. Dowloading content, viewing multi media and sending messages. Personally I never use this as this makes my phone just as useless as a phone with an empty battery
2 Restrict performance, which has 4 sub options:
• 1 CPU performance / This machine has enough power to do pretty much everything with this option on except for some high performance games perhaps.
• 2 Screen output / Usefull to have turned on when in need of extra battery life.
• 3 Turn off touch key light / Usefull to do when needing power.
• 4 Turn of GPS / Which I already only turn on when needed.
3 Grayscale Mode
• This option doesn’t affect your performance but just makes you entire phone black and white. This grayscale mode saves a lot of power and you will still be able to do all the work stuff like browsing, mailing, texting, etc…
Ultra power saving mode:
In this mode your phone can last for several days but its use is very limited. You can browse the web, call and text but that’s pretty much it.
I think this would come in very handy if the end off the world has come, all power is gone, and you want to be the very last person to send a text
Just kidding. If this is what gets you home on a few percent of power, it comes in very handy.
Look at the standby time when you turn it on. It’s amazing how long a phone can last in this mode.
Widget use:
Widgets can save or cost you power. There are very useful widgets that give you quick access to wifi, GPS, Bluetooth and other power saving stuff on your home screen. Besides easy access you will become more awre of the fact that you have a lot of stuff on that really doesn’t need to ben on at the moment.
Other widgets can cost you lots of power and data. This mainly depends on the amount of data the widget has to download and the refresh interval. For example: If you have a Facebook widget on one of your home screens that refreshes every 15 minutes, that means it will go and download new content from facebook every 15 minutes. This costs you data (when not on Wifi), but also battery life.
So look carefully at the widgets you use before installing them on your homescreens if you want your battery to last.
Launchers and home screens:
By organizing your favorite and most used applications you will be able to open them faster and so it will shorten your screen on time.
Personally, I think you should be able to open every app within 2 seconds. If you have many apps, and the only way to open them is scrolling to several pages of app drawer, your doing something wrong.
The beauty of Android is the fact that it is the most customizable system out there so use it! Combine widgets, apps, shortcuts, and folders until you have everything within reach.
When using TouchWizz launcher, it really helps to turn of Briefing on your home screen. This makes the phone slower and it costs battery life and data usage.
Many Samsung users have come to terms with the fact that TouchWizz will never be the best launcher out there (And that’s the understatement of the [email protected]&1ng century).
That’s why most heavy users will install a third party launcher as a home screen replacement. The one most used is probably Nova Launcher.
Playstore link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher
Youtube tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO52dfFm40o
I have found after installing this launcher and setting it up, my battery life increased with 7-9% on a full days use. At this point I haven’t figured out if this is only because I navigate more efficiently, or that there are other reasons aswel.
The benefit of a third party launcher is more customization for your home screens and app drawer (such as making categories is the app drawer and such). But also to have gesture control, for example: Have apps open when swipning up or down, with one or multiple finger, double tap, home button and so on.
This gives you much easier and faster acces to your most used apps.
Other usefull apps for powersaving:
Tasker is an app that lets you automate tasks on your phone. For example letting your phone detect when you are at home, and automatically turn on wifi, turn of GPS and your lockscreen pattern.
Tasker does not have to let GPS run for these task and can also turn everything around when you leave home. The amount options on tasker is pretty much unlimited and these automated tasks can save a lot of power thus increasing battery-life .
Playstore link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm
Youtube tutorial(s):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzY9te12UI0&list=PLjV3HijScGMynGvjJrvNNd5Q9pPy255dL
Tasker is not an easy to use in 2 minutes app. It will take some time and effort to really get into it, but beside winning a lot of battery life, it will let you automate pretty much anything you can think of.
Rooted users:
For rooted users there are many more options to save power and increase battery life.
I am just going to mention a couple:
• Limiting your CPU frequency. Your note 4 has a surplus of power and you will never need it all unless you play high performance games. You can limit the frequency completely, or make profiles that change the frequency as your battery level decreases. Personally I use the app SetCPU to do this.
Playstore link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mhuang.overclocking
• Freezing or uninstalling bloatware. A lot of stuff on your android phone you will never use. I always use Chrome as my browser so I won’t keep the original browser Samsung gave me on my phone. This goes for many apps. I use 2 applications to freeze and/or uninstall apps from my phone to free up memory, RAM and save battery life:
SD Maid (also limited functions for non rooted users)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.thedarken.sdm
Titanium Backup (also the best backup app I have found sofar)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
Both these apps let you freeze and uninstall bloatware. Be carefull though! Do not just start deleting everything that doesn’t look familiar, or you will get in trouble.
Freeze apps first and see if ervything keeps working. Then make sure you do a Nandroid backup within TWRP or CWM recovery before definitely uninstalling apps.
There are several lists available on the web which show what can possibly be frozen and/or deleted. This is one I found quite useful:
http://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/2pgiib/the_ultimate_list_of_removablefreezable_bloatware/
Custom ROMs:
There are many custom ROMs that are more friendly for your battery then the stock firmware. However, if you are new to rooting and installing custom ROMS please be carefull and watch the tutorials before you start flashing away.
A good site to begin is:
http://galaxynote4root.com/
From XDA Senior Member:
Zedomax (Profile http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2447605)
Many thanks Max. You are the one that got me hooked on this stuff!
Suggestions:
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great post thank you!! I wonder if you could share how much did you limit the CPU and if you you'd recommend any ROM there is plenty of them but which one worked the best for you? Thank you very much
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mefistos said:
great post thank you!! I wonder if you could share how much did you limit the CPU and if you you'd recommend any ROM there is plenty of them but which one worked the best for you? Thank you very much
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Thanks man.
I have the CPU set on 1728 MHz without any lag or problems even with multitasking. Only when playing games I push it up to the max.
At this moment I use 2 ROMs:
Alliance V2.2: This one is most customizable and you'll keep all the touchwizz functions. (I do recommend a third party launcher like NOVA or Action Launcher 3 to get rid of the lag TW still has).
CM12 official: This is more friendly to your battery, but you'll have to install CM Spen addon and Note buddy or Spen control to get some Spen functions working. The latest nightlies hardly have any bugs (I haven't experienced any).
Willem1975 said:
Thanks man.
I have the CPU set on 1728 MHz without any lag or problems even with multitasking. Only when playing games I push it up to the max.
At this moment I use 2 ROMs:
Alliance V2.2: This one is most customizable and you'll keep all the touchwizz functions. (I do recommend a third party launcher like NOVA or Action Launcher 3 to get rid of the lag TW still has).
CM12 official: This is more friendly to your battery, but you'll have to install CM Spen addon and Note buddy or Spen control to get some Spen functions working. The latest nightlies hardly have any bugs (I haven't experienced any).
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I don't really play games so I am alright with 1728
I was actually wondering how does CM works with S Pen thank you for the info I will definitely try both of them
Willem1975 said:
Powersaving / extend battery life
There 10 different levels of auto brightness. I have found that level 2 or 3 is not only sufficient but friendlier to my eyes.
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Can you explain how to change the auto brightness level? All I see is the "auto" checkbox and that's it. No way to adjust the auto brightness level. I can adjust the brightness manually though, but that isn't "auto".
Auto brightness levels
spexwood said:
Can you explain how to change the auto brightness level? All I see is the "auto" checkbox and that's it. No way to adjust the auto brightness level. I can adjust the brightness manually though, but that isn't "auto".
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When pulling down your notifications, you'll see a slider and a checbox as you can see see in thee pic below. (It might look different becausse I'm running Alliancerom).
If the checkbox is ticked, you can adjust the slider for different levels of autobrightness. Without the checkbox ticked, you change the screen brightness directly.
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When pulling down your notifications, you'll see a slider and a checbox as you can see see in thee pic below. (It might look different becausse I'm running Alliancerom).
If the checkbox is ticked, you can adjust the slider for different levels of autobrightness. Without the checkbox ticked, you change the screen brightness directly.
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I'm on stock and with Auto checked, it becomes unchecked when you adjust the slider. Thus, adjusting the slider only forces it into manual brightness.
Edit: and I'm on the n910a
Didn't know that. Did not spend much time on stock. Sorry....
spexwood said:
I'm on stock and with Auto checked, it becomes unchecked when you adjust the slider. Thus, adjusting the slider only forces it into manual brightness.
Edit: and I'm on the n910a
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Nothing like that happens on the snapdragon one. And i can bet it shouldn't happen on Exynos as well. This feature has been the same for years, and has worked very well; there is no reason to change it on any variant now.
Recheck that your rom is not messed up.
maksharma231 said:
Nothing like that happens on the snapdragon one. And i can bet it shouldn't happen on Exynos as well. This feature has been the same for years, and has worked very well; there is no reason to change it on any variant now.
Recheck that your rom is not messed up.
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My firmware is via ATT OTA, so it isn't messed up. I can't even flash anything since the n910a isn't rootable. The way my brightness slider is now is also how it was on Kitkat, and all ATT models are like mine.
It's just that when you mentioned the different auto brightness levels, I thought that maybe there was something I was overlooking in my settings. Apparently not, since your type of autobrightness was apparently adjusted by ATT.
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My firmware is via ATT OTA, so it isn't messed up. I can't even flash anything since the n910a isn't rootable. The way my brightness slider is now is also how it was on Kitkat, and all ATT models are like mine.
It's just that when you mentioned the different auto brightness levels, I thought that maybe there was something I was overlooking in my settings. Apparently not, since your type of autobrightness was apparently adjusted by ATT.
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Yup, must be ATT setup, although it makes much more sense the default android way.
Wonder why they decided to change it
My battery life on my note 4 is truly awful and I genuinely have no idea what's doing it, without fail it'll die like half way through the day when I only really use it for reddit and WhatsApp, I've heard by a lot of people that snapchat is really bad for battery. Whenever I look at these battery apps they never seem to tell me though, my screen on time is always atrocious and everyone else is getting like 6 hours, I use alxedandr rom btw, I also get lags here and there and I have no idea why can anyone help
Drizzy xS said:
My battery life on my note 4 is truly awful and I genuinely have no idea what's doing it, without fail it'll die like half way through the day when I only really use it for reddit and WhatsApp, I've heard by a lot of people that snapchat is really bad for battery. Whenever I look at these battery apps they never seem to tell me though, my screen on time is always atrocious and everyone else is getting like 6 hours, I use alxedandr rom btw, I also get lags here and there and I have no idea why can anyone help
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Most people are having problems with Google Play services drain. It's causing poor battery life because it's stopping the phone from deep sleeping. Sign out of Google Play in the accounts page in settings, then reboot the phone and sign back in again. Uncheck all the items you don't want to sync for Google.
I'm on lollipop and did a cache wipe straight after installing AND uninstalled the Facebook app. I've got 40% remaining after 12.5 hours. Boc3 seems to be really stable.
If you are having problems with battery drain I suggest you go to settings>application manager>running and kill tasks from there.
I am getting exceptional battery life on my Exynos
just quickly, is there any way to like reset the battery life physically?
ie in the old days, we would often let the battery run flat out, and recharge fully and run flat out a couple times.
and it'll basically give you the best longest battery life after doing this.
I think I just discovered a fix after updating to 5.0, I am running stock just for the info, all I did was boot into recovery and wipe cashe partition about 3-4 times and that seemed to have worked very well battery life is back to normal. Can someone who has this problem confirm?
joe1blue said:
I think I just discovered a fix after updating to 5.0, I am running stock just for the info, all I did was boot into recovery and wipe cashe partition about 3-4 times and that seemed to have worked very well battery life is back to normal. Can someone who has this problem confirm?
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What was your previous battery usage like for heavy, moderate and low usage?
Gold3nCloud said:
What was your previous battery usage like for heavy, moderate and low usage?
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It was strangely very bad after I updated to stock 5.0, I would lose about 2% every 15min I mean very bad to the point that I was about to do a factory reset.
KK only
For those who cannot identify the battery drain source from the battery setting, disable your alarm clock. The stock alarm clock is causing a huge drain, and it hides itself in the Android System. Not even wake detector could detect it. I did a search, but couldn't find anyone talking about it. My SOT drops by an hour with the alarm clock on.
I just used the phone for half a day and thoroughly enjoy it. On first impression, the phone is very light for the size and they give nice accessories considering the price; earphones, screen protector, case. The phone have an RGB notification light.
Interface:
-The interface is not stock Android, it's more like a modified version of MIUI. It's very usable once you install your choice of stock launcher, replace the default keyboard, and disable some of the bloat apps.
-Since it's not stock Android, I find it take a bit of time to get used to finding things in the Settings menu.
-The swipe up hardware toggles (Control center, similar to iPhone toggles) are pretty useful and more well organized than stock Android imo.
-Screen off gestures, you get many different commands (double tap on, camera, flashlight, customize your own, etc) and it work pretty good.
-Feature to display network speed on the notification bar
-"Close all" button in the recent apps menu.
-There is a feature to modify apps permissions called "Permissions of App".
-I can not find the shortcut to "Smart Lock" window anywhere, even though it is supported in the OS, if you pair a bluetooth device it will display the notification to enable it. But there seems to be no way to get to the actual Smart Lock window to enable other smart lock features, or I miss it somewhere.
Performance:
I installed all my programs pretty quick. I don't see any lag issues. All the apps launches fast and run smoothly. I don't intend to play any heavy games on a $100 phone, all the light games I play like Subway Surfer and Horizon Chase have no lags.
Connection:
Cell: The dual sim feature seems to work good. I still have to to test the signal quality, but I have to say the data speed is average. I get about 10 to 12mbps down for T-Mobile LTE speed test.
Bluetooth: I'm happy to report the Bluetooth have good performance, the motion of people lips in videos are in synced with the audio from the bluetooth speaker.
WiFi: Can reach high speed, no problem.
GPS: No problem.
Storage:
There is a strange quirk with the phone which is by default your microSD is acts as the main 'internal storage' of the phone (sdcard0), and the actual internal storage act as external (sdcard1). So it would help if you use a fast microSD. I think this is because I have the microSD inserted the first time I set up the phone. Maybe this problem can be prevented by not inserting the microSD for the first time you boot up the phone. I don't know, but I'll just live with it.
Display:
The screen is very nice for a 5.5" 720p AMOLED display. It's not going to be sharp, but it the pixels are smooth so you don't get so much of that pixelation effect. Pretty much deep black, saturated colors and good viewing angles you expect from AMOLED. It's definitely not the brightest of display though, so you might have some problem under direct sunlight.
Camera: I haven't used it too much, but it's pretty average. Like all lower end camera, it have issue with under/over exposure, also the white balance is really off on auto mode. I like the manual mode that let you control the ISO and shutter speed. It's no where bad in good lighting condition, I'd say it takes good enough details for a budget phone.
Speaker: Very average, don't expect much here.
Charging: I used my Anker quick charger and it seems to charge the device fast and safely.
Ringtones selection:
The only thing I don't like is that if you have music in your phone, when you go to change the default ringtones, it will display every single songs in your phone and you have to scroll through it. The way to remedy this is to use the file manager in the phone and create a file called ".nomedia" in your music folder, so the phone will not recognize songs in it. Once you set your desired ringtone, you can remove that file. Or you can simply use a third party app to do the job.
Aside from some quirks, I honestly have no complaints so far, I would have no problem paying the full $150 for this device. I definitely like it better than the Moto G3, except that Motorola phones tends to have superior signals and call quality compared to most other brands. I definitely will not use this phone without a case though since it's on the light side.
Couple of things I noticed
1. The navigation buttons at the bottom (Home, Back & Option) does not have backlight. Not sure if there is a LED there that can be enabled in settings. I couldn't find any setting for that.
2. The data connection drops from 4G LTE to 'H' (HSPA) when on a call.
One of thing I notice about the Gallery app in this phone is there is an "Encrypt" option. If you press it accidentally it encrypt the file and move it into the "Pictures\.GallerySafe" folder. To access the encrypted photo, you have to "pinch outward" in the app.
No Smart Lock support: I tested and even though the smart lock feature turned on when you paired a bluetooth device, it actually doesn't work.
Here are some photo samples. The main problem are over exposure, white balance detection and some lost of saturation. The quality suffers when you're indoor with less lights.
https://goo.gl/photos/j9BrJ7gcbDCXBQgD6
The LED notification light seem like its set a ways under the glass and has this really bright shining affect versus a little glow other devices have.
I must say, the amoled screen on this is quite impressive for $100 phone..
wifi and data speeds are very similar compared to my oneplus 2 (both running Tmobile)
I noticed that the user cannot remove home screen icons. Like when you press and hold there's no option to remove the icon. Some apps show an option to uninstall. But for some pre installed apps there is no option to remove the icon.
Like Google chrome, opera browser, BLU help, amazon etc....
I don't want to uninstall the app, just remove from home screen.
Yea I noticed the LED light being very bright. I could read a book under that lighting.
hamilLewiston said:
I noticed that the user cannot remove home screen icons. Like when you press and hold there's no option to remove the icon. Some apps show an option to uninstall. But for some pre installed apps there is no option to remove the icon.
Like Google chrome, opera browser, BLU help, amazon etc....
I don't want to uninstall the app, just remove from home screen.
Yea I noticed the LED light being very bright. I could read a book under that lighting.
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just use another launcher. google now, nova
eksasol said:
One of thing I notice about the Gallery app in this phone is there is an "Encrypt" option. If you press it accidentally it encrypt the file and move it into the "Pictures\.GallerySafe" folder. To access the encrypted photo, you have to "pinch outward" in the app.
No Smart Lock support: I tested and even though the smart lock feature turned on when you paired a bluetooth device, it actually doesn't work.
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The smart lock is really baffling. It prompts to turn on smart lock but never works after that.
tlxxxsracer said:
just use another launcher. google now, nova
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thanks, that's what i finally did
so i found that there is an option on the desktop settings to 'hide' apps that you don't want to see on the desktop. it will hide the apps, with a password / pin. i'll post a guide later.
I've been using the Honor 5X a bit today so here is a comparison.
Things I prefer on the Vivo XL:
-This is a faster device. Everything about the Blu is more responsive and I don't think it's down to just the 720p display. It seems that this Mediatek CPU is actually pretty decent, games are smoother on it as well. In comparison, Honor 5X is slightly sluggy, not just in the interface, but in apps as well. This is probably due to the EMUI OS on the Honor 5X.
-Blu's UI is actually easier to understand and getting used to, especially if you're not accustomed to MIUI style interface on the Honor 5X.
-I'm not sure if it's due to the screen protector preinstalled on the Honor 5X, but the Blu touchscreen is a bit more sensitive and responsive to touch. Though it's not bad on the Honor 5X.
-The slide up "Control Panel" on the Blu is more useful with lots of options. Hate to admit it, but I prefer this slide up behavior more than Android's default because it's faster being close to your thumb. The notification toggles for the Honor 5X is missing a few options, but not a big deal.
-Blu is thinner and more light weight.
-The USB Type C connector is god sent.
-Removable battery.
Prefer on the 5X:
-Sharper screen that is very bright, its actually brighter than some highend flagship devices. The viewing angle isn't great however, but that is non-problem because it's a phone, not a TV.
-The camera is (only) slightly better. It have a bit more details and much better handle at white balance. Although the Blu camera's tap to focus is faster and more responsive. At this price range, it's not a big difference between the two phones.
-While their EMUI interface takes time to learn, it have some useful features, such as network control for apps. This let you disable data or wifi access for any apps you want, which is a very useful security feature.
-Very nice metal body.
-Finger print scanner, which I don't use.
It's a bit hard to choose which phone I would use as the daily driver. I think that if you go with the Blu, the software is good enough that you don't need to install custom roms. If you go with the Honor 5X, I believe you will need to install custom roms if you want the most out of the performance. I would have to pick the Blu Vivo XL as better value for the money, since it performs better for $50 less, and may last longer due to removable battery and USB Type C connector (more durable than microUSB). Also I like it when companies throw in free phone case and headphones, which is lacking in the Honor 5X packaging.
hamilLewiston said:
so i found that there is an option on the desktop settings to 'hide' apps that you don't want to see on the desktop. it will hide the apps, with a password / pin. i'll post a guide later.
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wheres the guide?
Thanks you for this app
Hi all,
As title suggests really, I noticed on my Note 8 that swiping to the app draw and back produces bit of a delay/glitch when flicking between the two, even on high performance mode - Does anyone else have this?
Really annoying as the rest of the device is very smooth but at the minute, my old S6 Edge Plus on android 7 feels just as quick to use, which is disappointing.
The latest update to the launcher on the S8 got rid of that lag and added the ability to pull down notifications with the a swipe down motion anywhere on the home screens. It looks like the launcher on the Note 8 is a little behind so hopefully we'll get that update soon.
I use Nova with no lag.
I use stock and it's the fastest I have ever had on a Sammy between home and app drawer. I regularly swipe up down for fun as it's great to watch. Mybe you have an app slowing you down. Also get DEVELOPER rights in settings and turn off all those 1x speed settings on graphics.
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I use stock and it's the fastest I have ever had on a Sammy between home and app drawer. I regularly swipe up down for fun as it's great to watch. Mybe you have an app slowing you down. Also get DEVELOPER rights in settings and turn off all those 1x speed settings on graphics.
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Odd you mention that as mine is completely stock and I first noticed this when I first turned it on, so I hadn't even started installing my own apps yet.
Maybe I should re-flash it and see if that'll help.
1. The volume button and power button are too close together. The amount of times I went to reach the power button to turn off the display and accidentally took a screenshot by pressing power and volume down together.
2. The back is way too slippery. If the phone is on my bed and and leaning on the mattress slightly, the phone moves. Even just tapping the screen to navigate makes the phone slowly move away. Have to keep putting the case back on.
3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out.
4. Battery is good but not what I was expecting. Same as my Mate 9 battery life and yet I thought the Kirin 970 was 50% more efficient than the 960.
5. Wish camera had more slow motion speeds.
6. Persistent Android System notification but that's an Oreo thing and not a Huawei thing.
Having said all that I love this phone and it's the best phone I ever had.
Only had mine two days so more annoyances will probably come to light.
Agree about the power/volume button positioning.
Also since I've got a glass screen protector on it, it's a bit harder to access the sensor (have to press down into it) which is a bit annoying since it's my main means of navigating back and home as well as unlocking.
Infact the same sensor/button being used for both back (short press) and home (long press) is also awkward as I frequently do one when I mean to do the other.
Finally, it seems a bit complicated seemingly with multiple apps and settings for the same thing (though I am coming from Windows Mobile which might seem simpler as it didn't have many apps)
Agree great phone though (probably my best ever also)
I just got my mate 10 (alp-l29,black,4gb) from UAE.
1. Inability to theme notification/quick toggle area - stays black no matter what theme you apply. Looks out of place considering all notifications except spotify are light/white themed.
2.home button with 3 functions is not as easy to manage as I thought, but I will have to get used to it, since i aint giving away screen real estate and use on screen buttons on this monster.
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
Otherwise I love this phone. Its fast, lag free. Kinda fat, but in combo with the weight, I like how it sits in my hand.
For the first time I quible only about thickness. Anything over 8mm feels a little thick...
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3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out..
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Well to update my post, I just tried with a very thin pair of unlined black leather gloves I own and in fact the sensor button DOES work while gloved. So I can press it to go back and forth and navigate as usual. It does not work with fingerprint recognition apps/phone unlocking of course, but once you are in, they do work.
FYI they are a UK brand: Dents Extra Soft 3000 silk lined gloves but I ripped out the silk lining to make them unlined and for more flexibility and thinness and to work with the sensor. ?
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3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
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UPDATE.
I found a solution to this issue where none of the combinations of View Mode and Text Size settings give you ideally looking system, meaning not too large or not too tiny. At default everything looks to large IMO and they should done better on qhd 6.0” screen. If not by default, view mode needs 5 not 3 steps.
So far the best I got is with this combo of settings:
1. View Mode and Text Size at Small;
2. Dpi @392 (under Developer Settings).
With this settings I believe the text size and viewing area is appropriate for qhd 6” screen.
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action, sometimes it ends up detecting my swipe as a tap, and going back accidentally
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
otonieru said:
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action,
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
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I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
snachez said:
I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
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Well that might be true if we are on home page,
But if we are still using an app, swiping up will only do scrolling :silly: , and the point of getting into recent screen is of course, for switching between app
Also,
I kinda expect by this time, huawei would already implement off screen gesture. At least for skipping song,
I mount my phone on my car center dash often, using maps and streaming spotify,
Without off screen gesture, its too troublesome, since i need to reach the phone while driving (not to mention its dangerous)
Because of this, now most of that job done by my Meizu Pro 7
They already implement "Knock & Draw" feature to launch app, so i dont see why they still cant get offscreen gesture
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Don't need that for Mate 10. Its one tap on fp to wake.
Hi. I don'l line che "twin app" that is no wotking with other launchers and there isn't a toggle to manage the duble sim (favorite ecc..)
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
windozeanti said:
Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
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I thought data limit is still there? In mobile data setting.
Or are we talking about different thing ?
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
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- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
Shady282 said:
- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
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The camera definitely isn't bad. But hasn't given me that wow factor. Especially in low light. Like I said I think after a couple software updates things will improve slot. No doubt the battery is good but could be better considering the Battery size
I've switched from One Plus 2 to Mate 10 and I think the Mate 10 could use some gestures,like hold home button to lock the phone etc. Right now, it's just pressing the power button to lock the phone. Bugs me.
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro. Besides, another thing that irks me is the fact that we can't mute the shutter sound in 3rd party apps even when you're in silent mode. Like if my phone is in silent mode and I want to send a pic using the whatsapp camera, i can't disable the sound.
focacciabread said:
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro.
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That's because the Mate 10 Pro has an OLED screen and white backgrounds consume more power, so they give you the option to use black backgrounds to save power. The standard Mate 10 has an LCD screen and white backgrounds be are not an issue.
The always on display which doesn't display any useful notifications is quite annoying.
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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It is hard to believe that miui is having these many issues/bugs...only custom ROMs can save.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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I'm also having almost all problems you mentioned.
Redmi note 10 pro (sweetin)
MIUI global 12.0.6.0 stable
Bootloader locked
MIUI have sooo many bugs. I will wait for 12.0.8 update. If bugs are fixed I will wait further for 12.5 update, else will install custom rom and will say final goodbye to MIUI
crazyguyrohan said:
I'm also having almost all problems you mentioned.
Redmi note 10 pro (sweetin)
MIUI global 12.0.6.0 stable
Bootloader locked
MIUI have sooo many bugs. I will wait for 12.0.8 update. If bugs are fixed I will wait further for 12.5 update, else will install custom rom and will say final goodbye to MIUI
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I'm on sweetinpro 12.0.6.0/12.0.8.0 on Stock with locked Bootloader. It's so frustrating that they haven't fixed trivial issues in the ROM and removed fundamental features.
I'm not having any of the mentioned issues here on my redmi note 10 pro 6/128GB sweetpro, bootloader locked. I disabled MIUI optimization right of the bat, and debloated all the xiaomi crap with this tool . I was running the latest MIUI global 12.0.10 and just updated today to MIUI 12.0.13 RKFEUXM. Still no issues. Also my battery is pretty fine, more than a day and I am heavy user (and gamer)
Regarding some of the issues (I have Redmi Note 10 Pro with global MIUI 12.0.10):
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
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Touch responsivenes does behave strange and fails sometimes. I haven't noticed any stuttering though, the 730G works pretty well for me.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
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This is very annoying and definitly needs to get fixed asap. Some notificaciones are really messed up, like chat notifications that pop up showing a different person (wrong profile and name, happens on whatsapp and Telegram).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
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Mine works fine.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
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After a full day I still have 50% battery, so no problem on mine.
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
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Just tested and it worked with 1 tap.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
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Unfortunately I bet Xiaomi did this on purpose to keep Always On Display away from the low-mid end phones, just like the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
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You mean the NFC icon in control center? I mine was just not enabled. It can be enabled with the "edit" function on the control center.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
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Mine do pop up. Try disabling MIUI optimization for these apps, it's what I did.
TotallyNotAPigeon said:
Regarding some of the issues (I have Redmi Note 10 Pro with global MIUI 12.0.10):
Touch responsivenes does behave strange and fails sometimes. I haven't noticed any stuttering though, the 730G works pretty well for me.
This is very annoying and definitly needs to get fixed asap. Some notificaciones are really messed up, like chat notifications that pop up showing a different person (wrong profile and name, happens on whatsapp and Telegram).
Mine works fine.
After a full day I still have 50% battery, so no problem on mine.
Just tested and it worked with 1 tap.
Unfortunately I bet Xiaomi did this on purpose to keep Always On Display away from the low-mid end phones, just like the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
You mean the NFC icon in control center? I mine was just not enabled. It can be enabled with the "edit" function on the control center.
Mine do pop up. Try disabling MIUI optimization for these apps, it's what I did.
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Turns out, all the problems I've mentioned are specifically with the Indian version of the Global ROM. We're at 12.0.6.0/12.0.8.0, and they've also removed the option to "disable MIUI Optimazations" from the developer menu. It now requires specifically resetting developer options.
You are correct about disabling MIUI optimization. My advice is don't touch it at all, not even once. I always find that down the road weird things will happen to my phone. Perhaps some problems that you are having, were the result of disabling it, even though you've turned it back on now. If it was me, I'd go for a factory data reset and see what happens.
ushgaga said:
You are correct about disabling MIUI optimization. My advice is don't touch it at all, not even once. I always find that down the road weird things will happen to my phone. Perhaps some problems that you are having, were the result of disabling it, even though you've turned it back on now. If it was me, I'd go for a factory data reset and see what happens.
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Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
Almost all the issues that OP stated in his post are true, it also happens to my unit which is the Indonesian unit with MIUI 12.0.4.0.
The most annoying one is the WA & Telegram notification issue, not only they messed up in order but the Action button is also misaligned. Seems like Xiaomi's dev team is not aware of this issue at all. Pretty unprofessional, however, this is what we deserved by buying a Xiaomi phone.
Due to all of these issues which I'm not confident will be solved in a timely manner by their dev team, I already made a post in my local adboard to sell my 1 week old RN 10 Pro and I will just buy the Samsung device again.
ushgaga said:
Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
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You can turn it on after installing ytvanced. Everything is working as it should except vanced pip which I cant seem to activate in gesture navigation
Ratti1999 said:
You can turn it on after installing ytvanced. Everything is working as it should except vanced pip which I cant seem to activate in gesture navigation
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Yepp, I installed Vanced and enabled MIUI optimization ( I needed of for files uploading). Vanced is working great. I am using navigation buttons as I am not huge fan of gestures.
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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ushgaga said:
Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
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For YTVanced, just go to the old versions page in the download site of vancedapp.com.
Then manually download the microg for "14.21.54 and above" and install it. MIUI will allow this version to be installed. Then I downloaded YTVanced 14.21.54 and installed and using it.
The only reason I wanted to turn off MIUI optimizations is to install YTVanced, but since this method works, I don't mind anymore.
I know MIUI "optimizations" is a real PITA, but so far there seems to be workarounds for some of the shortcomings.
Once official stable custom roms are available, I'll flash to these. Right now there are 3 custom roms available, but these are newly released. Need to wait and see if others have problems or not. Once the roms are matured enough, then will be worth to migrate.
P.S. - Using Sweet Global 8/128.
motherninja said:
Due to all of these issues which I'm not confident will be solved in a timely manner by their dev team, I already made a post in my local adboard to sell my 1 week old RN 10 Pro and I will just buy the Samsung device again.
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No need to take drastic measures.
Xiaomi is actually rooter-friendly. They allow official bootloader-unlocking, although the process takes long.
Their phones, especially the Redmi Note series are some of the best value phones you can ever find.
This is more true with this Note 10 Pro. I mean it's using Amoled and 120Hz screen with 8GB RAM and 128GB ROM wirh NFC, 3.5" jack, IR, FM radio and a huge battery. Even other more expensive flagships don't have all at one place. And the combination of features are only available in higher end flagships of other phones which cost so much more.
And let's not forget Samsung's notorious Knox counter. Even wirh Magisk Hide, some bank apps look for this counter and you can't use a rooted phone with bank apps and some other telco-apps. They look for this Knox-counter trips.
Xiaomi community is very active. There are already 3 custom roms available for Sweet. And there will be many to come. So you can already try these new roms and get rid of MIUI "optimizations" completely.
For me, i am waiting for the roms to get ironed out from it's new beginnings and let them mature with any fixes before I change my ROM. Need to make sure everything works properly before jumping ship.
amgreenhawk said:
No need to take drastic measures.
Xiaomi is actually rooter-friendly. They allow official bootloader-unlocking, although the process takes long.
Their phones, especially the Redmi Note series are some of the best value phones you can ever find.
This is more true with this Note 10 Pro. I mean it's using Amoled and 120Hz screen with 8GB RAM and 128GB ROM wirh NFC, 3.5" jack, IR, FM radio and a huge battery. Even other more expensive flagships don't have all at one place. And the combination of features are only available in higher end flagships of other phones which cost so much more.
And let's not forget Samsung's notorious Knox counter. Even wirh Magisk Hide, some bank apps look for this counter and you can't use a rooted phone with bank apps and some other telco-apps. They look for this Knox-counter trips.
Xiaomi community is very active. There are already 3 custom roms available for Sweet. And there will be many to come. So you can already try these new roms and get rid of MIUI "optimizations" completely.
For me, i am waiting for the roms to get ironed out from it's new beginnings and let them mature with any fixes before I change my ROM. Need to make sure everything works properly before jumping ship.
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By the time I make that post a few weeks ago, my Sweet has been sold in only 1 hour since the ad went online. Currently, I'm back with the Samsung bandwagon (I bought the brand new A52 LTE) and really really happy with it With this great midrange, I did not miss anything from my previous Samsung phone, the S10.
I agree with you, Xiaomi makes good phones with unbeatable hardware specs to performance ratio, but this is the software that we will interact every day with, not the underlying hardware.
Gone are the days I spent countless hours trying every custom ROM available in our beloved XDA forums, now I just want the phone that just works without any major or annoying issue.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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I wanna install third party apk it's safe from disable miui optimization and re enable it (just disable for install the apk)
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Please how can I disable MIUI optimization? I'm using Redmi note 10 pro 128/8
YTVanced is working with activated optimization on my Redmi Note 10pro SKFEUXM13.0.15.0
Bootloader locked, not rooted.