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Hello all,
I am looking to pick up a Moto X (xt1095) to replace my xt1053. I am a little dismayed however at the lack of availability of roms for the device.
I am used to having CM or Slim or at least gravitybox running, and it looks like none of these are working yet for this phone. Is this simply because of the recent release of Lollipop and the scarcity of the Moto X or is there some underlying problem?
Basically, is there hope for the future?
Probably has more to do with most devs not touching Moto because of how developer hostile they were years ago. Also I suspect most are waiting to see if the Lenovo takeover pushes moto into a more "old moto" stance on devs again.
I was wondering the same, the phone has so much potential, why no development at all?
Thanks for the responses. I was hoping I suppose to at least see CM and some other mainstream developers already onboard, but I guess it's just because 3rd party devs haven't built around lollipop yet.
Same problem with Xposed.
Pan Skrzetuski said:
Hello all,
I am looking to pick up a Moto X (xt1095) to replace my xt1053. I am a little dismayed however at the lack of availability of roms for the device.
I am used to having CM or Slim or at least gravitybox running, and it looks like none of these are working yet for this phone. Is this simply because of the recent release of Lollipop and the scarcity of the Moto X or is there some underlying problem?
Basically, is there hope for the future?
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Chris123NT said:
Probably has more to do with most devs not touching Moto because of how developer hostile they were years ago. Also I suspect most are waiting to see if the Lenovo takeover pushes moto into a more "old moto" stance on devs again.
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There's a short thread in the General section with a developer looking for some files so he can start to build CM11 and 12. Several days old.
I got my pure edition on the way, and I also noticed the lack of ROMs. - I currently have an N5, my girlfriend really likes it so I'm going to give it to her for Christmas, was not really looking to upgrade, but oh well.
I really do hope the scene for this phone picks up a bit, otherwise I might just sell it and go back to N5... Unless the phone is so amazing that it will keep me from the ROM scene, but I don't know... I'm a flashaholic.
On the same subject - My friend got the same phone, but he mentioned needing to contact Motorola to get a bootloader unlock code so he could root it, is that a necessary step, or can that be avoided?
I understand the above step voids warranty, could also be why people are staying away from cooking ROMs for this.
Shemploo said:
I got my pure edition on the way, and I also noticed the lack of ROMs. - I currently have an N5, my girlfriend really likes it so I'm going to give it to her for Christmas, was not really looking to upgrade, but oh well.
I really do hope the scene for this phone picks up a bit, otherwise I might just sell it and go back to N5... Unless the phone is so amazing that it will keep me from the ROM scene, but I don't know... I'm a flashaholic.
On the same subject - My friend got the same phone, but he mentioned needing to contact Motorola to get a bootloader unlock code so he could root it, is that a necessary step, or can that be avoided?
I understand the above step voids warranty, could also be why people are staying away from cooking ROMs for this.
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You just have to go to their website( https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a ) and follow their instructions to unlock their phone.. Contacting them is not necessary. Voiding the warranty has been the case for multiple phones, however it hasn't stopped devs before.. Doubt that is the case
I bought the pure edition yesterday, I did my research and figured it would be better than a nexus 6 (way to big for me) and bought it. I assumed there was plenty of Dev work, I mean its a near stock phone and will likely outsell the nexus 6, but there's not even an official build of CM!!! Even the gnex is getting cm12. I just don't understand it. Z
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I bought the pure edition yesterday, I did my research and figured it would be better than a nexus 6 (way to big for me) and bought it. I assumed there was plenty of Dev work, I mean its a near stock phone and will likely outsell the nexus 6, but there's not even an official build of CM!!! Even the gnex is getting cm12. I just don't understand it. Z
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That's funny cause CM is my least favorite of ROMs, they always seem to break things when they make changes, and ROMs based on CM are always left in the dark trying to catch up, fix whatever broke as result.
If there's not much being developed for this, I suppose I'd probably go back to 4.4 and work around it with xposed.
I think more development will come in time but I think most are waiting for stable 5.0 first. I look forward to gravitybox but personally I have never been as happy on any rom as I am AOSP(ish) and don't see the need with a phone like this to install any roms. It was more necessary back "in the day" to get rid of crapware and overbloated UI's (*cough* Touchwiz *cough*). Phones like the Nexus series, GPE editions, and the Moto X's have made me personally re-evaluate my interest in full ROM's.
If you guys were around when the original Moto x came out, then you'd remember that it also had a lack of roms and dev action when it launched... However now it's getting cm 12 like no one's business... I think it's just a matter of time before the roms start rolling in
Never seen such a low dev contribution for any of my Android devices. My moto is pretty much perfect, but there's always ways to improve it. Why is there so little activity on it? Are we just waiting for Cm or PA to support it?
Was it really necessary to start another 1 of these threads.. There's already 2 that are active.. Read and post there
We are waiting for you to make us a ROM! Get cracking!
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Where?
And I'd love to, but I'm useless
Serious answer.
The Moto X has a lot of proprietary code for things like moto assist, active display, and the low power ir sensors. Additionally, there is no official source for lollipop like there is for Nexus devices...making it difficult for ROM builders.
The Moto X (2013) had very little in the terms custom ROMs as well. There will probably be a few ROMs in the future, but don't expect a ROM community like there are for Nexus devices, it just won't happen.
That being said, the Moto X is damn near perfect straight out of the box. I am an avid flasher, and I really don't feel like I'm missing out on much with the stock experience on the Moto X.
Center status bar clock/date is really the only thing I miss.. Possibly a kernel but stock with trickster seem to be working well
I'd love to get Xposed modules back for some minor cosmetic and functional tweaking, but otherwise this phone is close to perfect already.
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I'd love to get Xposed modules back for some minor cosmetic and functional tweaking, but otherwise this phone is close to perfect already.
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Yeah, Xposed is a total game changer. That's one of the main reasons I'm keeping both my X and N5 on KK for the foreseeable future.
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Serious answer.
The Moto X has a lot of proprietary code for things like moto assist, active display, and the low power ir sensors.
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People say that, but this is often true of Samsung devices and devices like the HTC One, but they still get development.
People also say that because the Moto X is such a close to stock device, there is a lack of interest in developing for it. I don't believe that either, because if that were true there would be no development for Nexus devices and, of course, those are the devices that get the most development.
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Additionally, there is no official source for lollipop like there is for Nexus devices...making it difficult for ROM builders.
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I think this, in fact, is probably the one and only reason there is no development for Moto X devices. I don't know that much about what is needed to make a ROM, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but without the source for proprietary drivers for various hardware components in a device, you're kind of stuck.
What puzzles me is that Motorola promoted the "Pure Edition" as an unlocked edition of the 2nd Gen Moto X. But if they're not going to provide the source code needed for development, why did they bother? It's like a developers edition of a phone that's only good for non-developers.
I also don't really see how it benefits Motorola to block development. It's a relatively small portion of users who even bother with custom ROMs. But is the most enthusiastic portion of users, who can really help spread the buzz for a device. In addtion, custom ROMs often come up with smart ideas that later get adopted in stock ROMs. So their is a potential symbiotic relationship there. As it is, it just seems like Motorola alienates some of the biggest Android fans.
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That being said, the Moto X is damn near perfect straight out of the box. I am an avid flasher, and I really don't feel like I'm missing out on much with the stock experience on the Moto X.
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Yeah, it's nice. With Xposed, as others say, it can be modified in similar ways as ROMs. But there are still some Motorola built in elements that I'd rather not see, so it's not pure stock, as is often suggested.
My real hangup is that ROMs, like Cyanogen, are much better at stripping out some of the most egregious tracking code. Providing privacy enhancements (again not just at the user feature level, but in the underlying code). And generally eliminating things that don't serve users, but do serve marketers/manufacturers. That's more important to me than a lot of the user interface modifications found in ROMs.
So with Xposed you can get an user interface experience that's pretty similar to a lot of ROMs, but their are other benefits that may be missing.
If I could get an official version of Cyanogen for the 2nd Gen Moto X, it would be a near perfect device to me. As it is, I still hesitate. Of course, there's the extremely similar Nexus 6, but I'm not into that huge size.
cb474 said:
People say that, but this is often true of Samsung devices and devices like the HTC One, but they still get development.
People also say that because the Moto X is such a close to stock device, there is a lack of interest in developing for it. I don't believe that either, because if that were true there would be no development for Nexus devices and, of course, those are the devices that get the most development.
I think this, in fact, is probably the one and only reason there is no development for Moto X devices. I don't know that much about what is needed to make a ROM, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but without the source for proprietary drivers for various hardware components in a device, you're kind of stuck.
What puzzles me is that Motorola promoted the "Pure Edition" as an unlocked edition of the 2nd Gen Moto X. But if they're not going to provide the source code needed for development, why did they bother? It's like a developers edition of a phone that's only good for non-developers.
I also don't really see how it benefits Motorola to block development. It's a relatively small portion of users who even bother with custom ROMs. But is the most enthusiastic portion of users, who can really help spread the buzz for a device. In addtion, custom ROMs often come up with smart ideas that later get adopted in stock ROMs. So their is a potential symbiotic relationship there. As it is, it just seems like Motorola alienates some of the biggest Android fans.
Yeah, it's nice. With Xposed, as others say, it can be modified in similar ways as ROMs. But there are still some Motorola built in elements that I'd rather not see, so it's not pure stock, as is often suggested.
My real hangup is that ROMs, like Cyanogen, are much better at stripping out some of the most egregious tracking code. Providing privacy enhancements (again not just at the user feature level, but in the underlying code). And generally eliminating things that don't serve users, but do serve marketers/manufacturers. That's more important to me than a lot of the user interface modifications found in ROMs.
So with Xposed you can get an user interface experience that's pretty similar to a lot of ROMs, but their are other benefits that may be missing.
If I could get an official version of Cyanogen for the 2nd Gen Moto X, it would be a near perfect device to me. As it is, I still hesitate. Of course, there's the extremely similar Nexus 6, but I'm not into that huge size.
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Samsung and HTC etc. devices get Dev because they are bloated with touchwiz/sense etc., there is not a lot to do on the moto x besides throw some aosp, or cm roms at it, but then you lose the "proprietary" features that the moto x has (which is its selling point, if you bought this phone not because of active display or moto voice then you really bought the wrong phone).
Not a lot of incentive for a Dev to work on the moto x, not much can be gain only loss....I.e. You goto cm or aosp you lose not gain...for the most part. Really not a lot of incentive to work on this phone. Sure there might eventually be a cm or even pa or aosp ROM but who really wants that over stock with xposed?
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People say that, but this is often true of Samsung devices and devices like the HTC One, but they still get development.
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There is nothing similar to active display and touchless control on Samsung's touchwiz or HTC's sense.
dobbs3x said:
Samsung and HTC etc. devices get Dev because they are bloated with touchwiz/sense etc., there is not a lot to do on the moto x besides throw some aosp, or cm roms at it,...
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As I said in the post to which you claim to be replying, if that were the reason not to develop for the Moto X, then there would also be no developement for Nexus devices, since they have no bloat and arrive pure stock. The point of custom roms, obviously, is not just to get rid of bloat, but to add lots of features that do not exist elsewhere. Indeed, some roms are made so that people can have an HTC Sense or Samsung Touchwiz type of experience on a non-HTC or non-Samsung phone. Roms are hardly all about returning phones to a stock experience. So I think that argument is obviously wrong to anyone who thinks about it for a minute.
Look at the OnePlus One. It ships with Cyanogen. Zero bloat, already has the most popular custom rom on it. If this argument had any merit, there would be no development for it. But in fact there is tons of development for it. Because it's a totally open device and OnePlus One encourages development.
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...but then you lose the "proprietary" features that the moto x has (which is its selling point, if you bought this phone not because of active display or moto voice then you really bought the wrong phone).
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You wouldn't lose the proprietary features if Motorola released drivers necessary for them to work, as other cell phone manufacturers do, so this point begs the question (again, as I already said in the post you were supposedly responding to).
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There is nothing similar to active display and touchless control on Samsung's touchwiz or HTC's sense.
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Samsung has their own weird hardware button layout, heart rate monitors, HTC has the oddball two lens camera in the M8. It doesn't matter what the feature is. All that matters is that there's some extra piece of hardware in there and it's going to need a driver and access to the hardware for developers to use it in a custom rom.
The difference, I believe, is that Samsung and HTC release the proprietary binaries and other source code, which makes it possible for developers to develop for their phones. Motorola, for whatever reason, has chosen not to do this. I think that is the only reason their is no development for the Moto X. So I think people are actually just misunderstanding what the problem is with development for the Moto X. (If some developer out their wants to chime in with more explanation of this, I'd be happy for some confirmation.)
All the other reasons people are repeating here are made up reasons that I think have nothing to do with how development actually happens. Repeating them, because someone else somewhere in the forum said it, does not make it true.
Motorola, it seems, just doesn't want people to develop for their devices and they prevent that by not releasing the binaries and source necessary to do so.
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The point can even be taken another step. Because the hardware on the 1st and 2nd Gen Moto Xs is so nice and generally liked and because the 2nd Gen Moto X is in fact the basis for the Nexus 6 and extremely similar to it, I think that if the binaries and source code necessary were available, there would be a lot of development for the Moto X. So it has nothing to do with all the reasons people say about why there's no need to develop for the Moto X and everything, I believe, to do with Motorola blocking developers from developing for the Moto X.
Or maybe it's just the fact that it's a mediocre device that a lot of devs aren't going to purchase. I'm sending mine back after 4 days with it. Love the build quality, but I can't live with the mediocre screen, crappy camera and poor battery life.
Most devs, "dev" for popular devices and sadly, the moto x isn't one of them
I do not see the hate towards this device to be reasoned, at all. Battery (not so ****ty as I thought it would be, very similar to Nexus 5 so you can not linger on that )and camera (I also believe it to be better then Nexus 5's) are the payoffs of a great phone. What is wrong with the screen, NRG?
I had the first gen moto x, it has lots of development but they are all cm or aosp based Roms. Pretty much a dozen different Roms with either cm or aosp as the base. There is nothing special with them. Just someone is bored and wanted to try making a ROM. They bring nothing really useful to the device unless you really just like cm. Which you should of bought the one plus or a nexus. Trust me all the Roms developed for the first gen moto x are nothing crazy, just rehashed cm and aosp.
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Or maybe it's just the fact that it's a mediocre device that a lot of devs aren't going to purchase. I'm sending mine back after 4 days with it. Love the build quality, but I can't live with the mediocre screen, crappy camera and poor battery life.
Most devs, "dev" for popular devices and sadly, the moto x isn't one of them
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If you consider the X to be mediocre, I'd love to know what phone you think is high end. I burn through Android phones like they are candy, and to me, the X is hands down the best smartphone ever made. Sure there are phones with better screens, cameras, and battery life, but they all have other compromises, some that are far worse. The X's screen is only mediocre when side by side with a nicer one, the camera is more than sufficient, and my battery life has been amazing. There has never been an Android phone this mature and elegant, with performance to boot. The software is as close to perfect as you can get (talking KitKat here, I'm not sold on Lollipop), and the overall user experience is second to none, at least in my eyes. To each their own I suppose, but I just can't fathom how anybody can call the X a mediocre phone.
Why would you install a custom rom on the Moto X?
I think it is a compliment to the device there is no development and urgent need for different software. What is somebody going to improve software wise that isn't already present?
shadowspring said:
Why would you install a custom rom on the Moto X?
I think it is a compliment to the device there is no development and urgent need for different software. What is somebody going to improve software wise that isn't already present?
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Exactly, its amazing. People buy a new Samsung , HTC or LG phone and immediately want to change everything on it. That doesn't say much for the original intent of the manufactures. With the Moto X line, most are completely satisfied with it right out of the box. Something those other phones can claim.
dobbs3x said:
Samsung and HTC etc. devices get Dev because they are bloated with touchwiz/sense etc., there is not a lot to do on the moto x besides throw some aosp, or cm roms at it, but then you lose the "proprietary" features that the moto x has (which is its selling point, if you bought this phone not because of active display or moto voice then you really bought the wrong phone).
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Is that true ?
I was going to unlock bootloader and root this nice device in order to put some tweaks (DPI change, Apps Control, Ad blocker...), but if I lose the active display this is not going to be good...
I also would like to add that this phone is less famous than others blockbusters from HTC, LG or Samsung (at least in France). Developers seem to go to where there are many users for their ROMs, excluding Nexus' line. This and that Motorola doesn't release the binaries and source...
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Is that true ?
I was going to unlock bootloader and root this nice device in order to put some tweaks (DPI change, Apps Control, Ad blocker...), but if I lose the active display this is not going to be good...
I also would like to add that this phone is less famous than others blockbusters from HTC, LG or Samsung (at least in France). Developers seem to go to where there are many users for their ROMs, excluding Nexus' line. This and that Motorola doesn't release the binaries and source...
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You wont lose any features just from unlocking and rooting, only if you flash a custom ROM that doesn't have them built in.
Somebody tried reguest support of some custom rom ? I try it right now.
najjannajS650 said:
Somebody tried reguest support of some custom rom ? I try it right now.
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Nothing will do it, first you need a working TWRP, secondly you need a dev that would do active support. Forget about it, Moto G6 (ALI) has no developers interest in this phone model.
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Nothing will do it, first you need a working TWRP, secondly you need a dev that would do active support. Forget about it, Moto G6 (ALI) has no developers interest in this phone model.
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The G6 has been out since just May, what are you talking about? Most people in the Moto G series had G5S+'s where there's a **** load of development for and decided that the G6 wasn't enough of an upgrade for them to make the change, but there will always be a potential for new Devs to come to a device. I'll take this over to Android Forums for all I care and crowd source over there, there's always been a desire from up and coming Devs to work on low end phones over there, I bet anything someone will be willing to Dev on a donate device, especially a mid range.
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The G6 has been out since just May, what are you talking about? Most people in the Moto G series had G5S+'s where there's a **** load of development for and decided that the G6 wasn't enough of an upgrade for them to make the change, but there will always be a potential for new Devs to come to a device. I'll take this over to Android Forums for all I care and crowd source over there, there's always been a desire from up and coming Devs to work on low end phones over there, I bet anything someone will be willing to Dev on a donate device, especially a mid range.
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Treble GSI's are the future for our phone. i already had RR booting and working with the official GSI available on the project treble forums. TWRP works, it just needs some kinks worked out before the broad public uses (have to wipe data to put files on internal memory, and some people have had success with forceencrypt/dm verity disabling)
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Treble GSI's are the future for our phone. i already had RR booting and working with the official GSI available on the project treble forums. TWRP works, it just needs some kinks worked out before the broad public uses (have to wipe data to put files on internal memory, and some people have had success with forceencrypt/dm verity disabling)
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Just for sake of discussion, doesn't Treble offer less feature implementation when it comes to actual device hardware to software "connectivity" [for lack of a better word] in other words little hardware side things that could be tweaked by the user with CyanogenMod builds per say?
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Just for sake of discussion, doesn't Treble offer less feature implementation when it comes to actual device hardware to software "connectivity" [for lack of a better word] in other words little hardware side things that could be tweaked by the user with CyanogenMod builds per say?
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im not exactly sure what you mean by that but i assume any hardware issues (i've really only noticed some bugginess with bluetooth audio) can be fixed with a custom system image based on an official GSI.
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im not exactly sure what you mean by that but i assume any hardware issues (i've really only noticed some bugginess with bluetooth audio) can be fixed with a custom system image based on an official GSI.
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Yeah, right...I meant like more system side like deeply modified frameworks and stuff and things that have been modded in the system like tweaks to things like active or "live display" or whatever. Other things like how notification LED functions and tweaks to the make camera actions snappier...I know there's more...I guess a better way to describe it is things that Xposed would do, but built into a ROM. Treble isn't enabling those things is it? Since it's just a software update that's entirely parallel to a phones hardware?
Thanks, that is what I want to hear ?
Good to know some of you were able to boot GSI's already. I maintain RR for another Moto device. Once I get the bootloader unlocked, I'll work towards getting us up and running with RR
So... SO many models floating around the web. Which one is the best for custom stuff such as ROMs and what not?
XT1925-2? Or..?
Locklear308 said:
So... SO many models floating around the web. Which one is the best for custom stuff such as ROMs and what not?
XT1925-2? Or..?
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None, given Android Pie is confirmed for the G6 models, people are staying away from developing ROMs.
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None, given Android Pie is confirmed for the G6 models, people are staying away from developing ROMs.
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I apologize, I don't quite follow what you mean.... So are you saying because it's going to get pie that it's basically useless as a phone for custom roms? That just doesn't make any sense to me
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I apologize, I don't quite follow what you mean.... So are you saying because it's going to get pie that it's basically useless as a phone for custom roms? That just doesn't make any sense to me
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Just when I thought I was succinct. No one is building any ROM for this phone as of now. And many people who are holding this phone would likely not switch to a custom ROM because Android Pie would come soon, as soon as this fall. Please do not hold me for either statement, you being a senior member, you may be more knowledgeable about these things.
theres not enough dev support for any g6 device plain an simple if you cant tell by looking through the threads on here. the only one that has had even the tiniest bit of support is the g6+and thats just the most barebones stuff. tbh your best bet would the moto e5 or something i gave up on the g6 play and got a z2 force. i still have the g6 play if you know any devices interested in it
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theres not enough dev support for any g6 device plain an simple if you cant tell by looking through the threads on here. the only one that has had even the tiniest bit of support is the g6+and thats just the most barebones stuff. tbh your best bet would the moto e5 or something i gave up on the g6 play and got a z2 force. i still have the g6 play if you know any devices interested in it
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Ugh, I hate when they focus on the crap devices... why is it so hard to get away from crapoled and have even bare rom support?
The G6+ is just waiting for a dev to get the device. The funds were raised through donations and the device is on its way to India to the dev.
As for the "barebones" comment we have Los 15.1. That's android 8.1. Our devices ship with 8.0 and Moto has not released 8.1 and may skip right to Android 9(P/Pie). The Los rom we have is fully functional and working aside from Bluetooth calling. After flashing Los 15.1 you can then flash Gsi files which are generic system images. This will probably be the successor to roms imo. With Gsi you can flash Android P in a variety of flavors but beware of additional bugs as Pie has only just been official for a month roughly. So yes you could somewhat consider this barebones, I suppose, because Los15.1 had laid the ground work to where other roms could be ported with out much effort.
The g6+ will probably never have a huge variety of roms but atleast we have been promised los16 which should open enough doors to make an impact.
Tl;Dr the g6+ is the only G6 model with a dev. Dev will be receiving g6+ in a week or two(due to international shipping from the US to Indiana). We will get los16. Get a g6+ and be patient but forget the G6 and G6 Play variants.
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Oh and Los16/Pie for Evert/g6+ will probably be released tomorrow.
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I'm currently a g5s plus user which gets a lot of love from devs. And I see that there are barely any ROM'S for this device? What's the reason?
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I'm currently a g5s plus user which gets a lot of love from devs. And I see that there are barely any ROM'S for this device? What's the reason?
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Cool this is the g6 forum not the g5+ forum lol I wanna know what even brings you to this forum since you have e a g5+. there's a couple being worked on for the g6 plus but there not ready for public release yet and that's it. No one really gives a damn about the Moto g6 or g6 play which sucks ass tbh. I've literally tried given an extra g6 play I had away for free to any dev and I was willing to pay the shipping even and no one even bothered asking about it so I got rid of it lol
Depends on the variant. G6+ was not released in the US officially so that hurt adoption as the G6 is not exactly a stand out device. The 6+ can be bought on Amazon in the US but it lacks a warranty and comes with Amazon bloatware(Alexa, Amazon.com, Amazon Prime Video/Music, Kindle). It also lacks NFC when compared to the 6+. It's more expensive then a Z Force 2 which has Moto Mods and better screen but older SoC. The US availableility is the biggest key! The g6 seems to be gaining traction though as prepaid carriers like Cricket and Straight Talk are releasing variants of the G6 now. The cricket version is cheaper then the G6 but has 16gb storage vs 32gb in the G6. Seems like the G6 Play is most commonly used on Boost Mobile in the US from to me. Boost is sort of a hit or miss carrier mostly depending on how good Sprint networks are in an area I believe. They are one of the rare sprint resellers.
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Cool this is the g6 forum not the g5+ forum lol I wanna know what even brings you to this forum since you have e a g5+. there's a couple being worked on for the g6 plus but there not ready for public release yet and that's it. No one really gives a damn about the Moto g6 or g6 play which sucks ass tbh. I've literally tried given an extra g6 play I had away for free to any dev and I was willing to pay the shipping even and no one even bothered asking about it so I got rid of it lol
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Was interested to recommend this to someone else, decided to check ROM support before doing so. But yeah it's sad how a generational update can cause such a dry patch here.
aFoxWhoIsNice said:
Was interested to recommend this to someone else, decided to check ROM support before doing so. But yeah it's sad how a generational update can cause such a dry patch here.
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I mean the phone itself is a great phone and if I didn't care about having root or if I was just a simple person that just used a phone like normal I would say this phone is amazing like if your friend ain't really into rooting or custom ROMs then still I would recommend it to them. But if they are into this scene I would not recommend it at least yet.
ninjakira said:
I mean the phone itself is a great phone and if I didn't care about having root or if I was just a simple person that just used a phone like normal I would say this phone is amazing like if your friend ain't really into rooting or custom ROMs then still I would recommend it to them. But if they are into this scene I would not recommend it at least yet.
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I see, but I still wanted to keep that venue open, so I'll wait and see if the support comes. If not, then a Xiaomi phone it is. Could flash something like Official Lineage OS on a RN5 Pro, even the noobiest of users enjoy it.
aFoxWhoIsNice said:
I see, but I still wanted to keep that venue open, so I'll wait and see if the support comes. If not, then a Xiaomi phone it is. Could flash something like Official Lineage OS on a RN5 Pro, even the noobiest of users enjoy it.
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For the g6+ I say give it about another month to three months. There is a telegram you can join if you want more updates on what's going in the g6+ community right now. I unfortunately have the g6 play so I can't say I have much hope for my device lmao. I also have a Moto z2 force so I just mainly use my g6 play as a phone and basic light mobile gaming and my z2 force for my heavier mobile gaming stuff like pubg mobile lol.
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For the g6+ I say give it about another month to three months. There is a telegram you can join if you want more updates on what's going in the g6+ community right now. I unfortunately have the g6 play so I can't say I have much hope for my device lmao. I also have a Moto z2 force so I just mainly use my g6 play as a phone and basic light mobile gaming and my z2 force for my heavier mobile gaming stuff like pubg mobile lol.
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Ah I see, could you link me the g6 plus group? Thanks.
aFoxWhoIsNice said:
Was interested to recommend this to someone else, decided to check ROM support before doing so. But yeah it's sad how a generational update can cause such a dry patch here.
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We have working LOS16 custom rom that is daily driver ready for the most part. LOS updates our vendor partition to make the GSI format more compatible with our device. We don't really have a reason to make a ton of custom roms anymore when a GSI img can be made and work on 50+ devices vs a custom rom which can work on only 1 device.
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Ah I see, could you link me the g6 plus group? Thanks.
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https://t.me/evertdev
Xplorer4x4 said:
We have working LOS16 custom rom that is daily driver ready for the most part. LOS updates our vendor partition to make the GSI format more compatible with our device. We don't really have a reason to make a ton of custom roms anymore when a GSI img can be made and work on 50+ devices vs a custom rom which can work on only 1 device.
https://t.me/evertdev
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Thanks for the info
Yeah it's interesting how little is going on with the G6 platform compared to other phones. I picked up my G6 play for $80, a steal. It replaced my Moto x 2014 and my wife's Moto Z.
Yes there's occasional lag, but the phone itself looks and feels like a very high end device. I've also used the G6 which was much faster and the camera was nicer.
So for those saying the G6 "sucks" either haven't used it or are willing to pay $500+ for a "better" phone.
shawndak said:
Yeah it's interesting how little is going on with the G6 platform compared to other phones. I picked up my G6 play for $80, a steal. It replaced my Moto x 2014 and my wife's Moto Z.
Yes there's occasional lag, but the phone itself looks and feels like a very high end device. I've also used the G6 which was much faster and the camera was nicer.
So for those saying the G6 "sucks" either haven't used it or are willing to pay $500+ for a "better" phone.
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Pretty much this. The Play and the G6 shows that you don't need to spend $500+ to get a good phone.
Its like buying a BMW versus a Toyota. The $40,000 BMW depreciates to $18,000 in 2 years versus a $20,000 Toyota that will depreciates to $12,000. It's the same principle with phones. I'm thoroughly enjoying mine.
This is why I'm glad Treble exists. I've been running Pie for 2 weeks and it's still going great.