PowerAmp and Neutron show selectable options for Hi-Res audio,so I assume that the device is capable for Hi-Res output.
The Red Magic 3 also supports DTS:X/DTS 7.1 and 3D Sound technologies out of the box.
However,unlike with the ZTE Axon 7 release,there's nothing to find on the www about the Magic 3 having a seperate DAC for it's advanced audio stuff....
Does anyone knows if the device has a dedicated auidio DAC ?
you can enable DTS when headset connected, under sound effects
em90256 said:
you can enable DTS when headset connected, under sound effects
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That's the Chinese room though, correct?
Mountainmohawk said:
That's the Chinese room though, correct?
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yes
That setting is not available on the EU rom......but anyway,also the Chinese rom doesn't show if there's a seperate DAC for Hi-Res audio...
From what I can tell it has an amazing headphone amp and is using the stock Qualcomm dac.
If only the stock Qualcomm DAC is used for audio processing,Qualcomm did a great job with this little piece of hardware,as the sound quality is outstanding,even when compared to my Axon 7......
I've written to support asking that same question, will come back here if and when I get an answer.
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Hi,
I got used to Samsungs CarDock mode which allowed to charge the phone and play music through USB port directly to my car stereo (no BT,:crying: ). I used the iBolt XProDock ( here ) which is amazing.
Now I have the M8 and figured out that analog output is not on board. So I am looking for a solution:
a) A BT-receiver for my car audio, optimally charged with max 5.0 V via USB plug)
b) Any digital to analog converter (dac?), but not too much gadgets to be supplied with power and cables
c) A second earphone-cable ?
d) A software solution to get analog sound from USB?
Any suggestions?
http://www.accessorypower.com/gogroove-flexsmart-x3-p-2410.html
BT FM Transmitter it also charges phones at 1A
If you have an AUX input, get a stereoclip.. Uses APT-x codec for cd+ quality sound. Lasts about 6 hours on a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Bluetooth...qid=1396896640&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+stereoclip
APT-X Bluetooth codec actually sounds better than USB analog audio output. No engine noise or light clicks/background noise going on.
And it's a much higher quality than normal Bluetooth.
BUT, some apps are not yet APT-X friendly.
Utter being one of them if I remember correct.
Taknarosh said:
http://www.accessorypower.com/gogroove-flexsmart-x3-p-2410.html
BT FM Transmitter it also charges phones at 1A
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Looks cool, but needs a car power outlet which I don't want to block with this gadget. Since I use a plantronics BT-heaset for calls no handsfree functionality is required. But thnx for this!
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If you have an AUX input, get a stereoclip.. Uses APT-x codec for cd+ quality sound. Lasts about 6 hours on a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Bluetooth...qid=1396896640&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+stereoclip
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Found that already, but some people seem to have issues with that. Must check myself, thnx
CZ Eddie said:
APT-X Bluetooth codec actually sounds better than USB analog audio output. No engine noise or light clicks/background noise going on.
And it's a much higher quality than normal Bluetooth.
BUT, some apps are not yet APT-X friendly.
Utter being one of them if I remember correct.
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Sorry, how could that affect the idea of APT-X in my car? The One M8 works with APT-X, and when the BT-receiver also does, shouldn't any music player work fine? I use Player Pro, and this app works fine over regular BT. Is there a difference with APT-X?
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Sorry, how could that affect the idea of APT-X in my car? The One M8 works with APT-X, and when the BT-receiver also does, shouldn't any music player work fine? I use Player Pro, and this app works fine over regular BT. Is there a difference with APT-X?
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Like I said, "some apps".
Yes, APT-X is handled differently somehow.
All music players I've tried have worked just fine though.
I think it's more "voice controlled" bluetooth related apps that sometimes have problems.
CZ Eddie said:
Like I said, "some apps".
Yes, APT-X is handled differently somehow.
All music players I've tried have worked just fine though.
I think it's more "voice controlled" bluetooth related apps that sometimes have problems.
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ok, nothing that botheres me.
I will try the BT-Solution.
Update 15.04.2014:
I bought a tiny BT-Receiver / (even with transmitter, which I don't need), here.
Works like a charme. Thnx for your advice!
Apt-x
APT-X cannot be used with just any device. In order to get full potential from apt-X you need to have AAC audio files which the HTC one m8 support and will give you much better sound then mp3. Also APT-X can only be used if the speakers support apt-X as well as the phone. If your phone supports apt-X but your speaker or stereo does not then the APT-X will not work. There are only a handful of speakers and stereos that support APT-X. But like I said APT-X supports audio at a higher bit-rate, then standard Bluetooth, and higher then a docked iPod. For good audio performance you need both a phone/player, and speaker/stereo that support APT-X on both ends, and you might want to load some songs from a CD in AAC format onto your computer to give you that CD quality sound, or buy some songs from HDtracks.com , to play using APT-X. But also the HTC one M8 should have gotten the lollipop 5.1 update which supports usb audio/host. So I would check and see if you have lollipop 5.1
hello guys i have an external dac/amp can i connect it to the note 5 without rooting
Short answer is probably. I tested with my HIFIMEDIY SABRE ES9023 96KHZ/24BIT USB DAC and it worked just fine. Although the built in audio sounds better with my Audio-Technica ATH-M50x headphones. I would try with the phone headphone out connected directly to your amp if you need the extra power. The built in DAC for the Note 5 is very clean and flat/warm.
To my knowledge rooting doesn't make a difference unless you are running a ROM that has additional driver support added.
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Short answer is probably. I tested with my HIFIMEDIY SABRE ES9023 96KHZ/24BIT USB DAC and it worked just fine. Although the built in audio sounds better with my Audio-Technica ATH-M50x headphones. I would try with the phone headphone out connected directly to your amp if you need the extra power. The built in DAC for the Note 5 is very clean and flat/warm.
To my knowledge rooting doesn't make a difference unless you are running a ROM that has additional driver support added.
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so , note 5 don't need a dac?? i don't need amplifier i just need better audio quality
Hi I was listening to my music and I was impressed but just wanted that bit more volume I don't want to root ect (I cannot believe I'm saying that)
Has anyone tried a usb dongle which ships with most phones without headphone jack as I've heard some have a dac built in and sound much louder ect
Suppose another question is would it even work on out phone as we already have a headphone jack will our phone evem recognise music through the usb type c adapter?
Thanks
you can get external DAC's that use the usb out to get direct digital audio, bypassing the A/D D/A conversion.
I have a pair of headphones (AKG N90Q) that have built in DAC. they can grab audio direct from the usb output.
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Hi I was listening to my music and I was impressed but just wanted that bit more volume I don't want to root ect (I cannot believe I'm saying that)
Has anyone tried a usb dongle which ships with most phones without headphone jack as I've heard some have a dac built in and sound much louder ect
Suppose another question is would it even work on out phone as we already have a headphone jack will our phone evem recognise music through the usb type c adapter?
Thanks
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I use Sony MDR 1ADAC with usb C sounds amazing!
Thanks gonna take a look at some I'm no audiophile but just nice to have that better sound when you want it
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you can get external DAC's that use the usb out to get direct digital audio, bypassing the A/D D/A conversion.
I have a pair of headphones (AKG N90Q) that have built in DAC. they can grab audio direct from the usb output.
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I use Sony MDR 1ADAC with usb C sounds amazing!
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Right just tried some gaming headphones which have a dac and I've tried them both on the note 8 and the ps4 pro remote and both sound quiet and lacking volume
But when I plug them into the tv the quadruple in volume does this mean that the note 8 and ps4 are just not as loud even tho I'm using the dac from the headphones
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Have anyone tried to use the usb port as audio output? Thinking about getting one from aliexpress (for testing). Dont like the 3.5 mm port on top as i put my phone "upside down" in my pocket.
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The HTC USB-C to 3.5mm adapter absolutely works! Here's the drawback ; The operating system does not allow you to fine-tune any of the audio settings. You can change them all you want, but I think that since a DAC is in the adapter there's no software in the phone to modify it's settings.
The sound is great, but you should have some good headphones that don't need to rely on fine-tunng with an equalizer.
I purchased the USB-C headphones that come in the box for the HTC U11, but they don't work because they're designed to work in conjunction with HTC's adaptive audio software and they are powered by the phone. I haven't tried any other brand of USB-C headphones yet.
Okay thanks for the tip!
As i understand the xz1 compact has the usb audio device class 3.0 wich supports both analog and digital audio thru the usb port. Wich would be the difference between usb c to 3.5 adapters and usb c enabled headphones wich probably would contain the actual dac. The analog one should support audiotweaking tho?
I Will order two different adapters, One analog and one digital and report back here.
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Okay thanks for the tip!
As i understand the xz1 compact has the usb audio device class 3.0 wich supports both analog and digital audio thru the usb port. Wich would be the difference between usb c to 3.5 adapters and usb c enabled headphones wich probably would contain the actual dac. The analog one should support audiotweaking tho?
I Will order two different adapters, One analog and one digital and report back here.
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Anything to report?
Nope. Ordered from China so might take a while..
I've got a Dragonfly Red USB DAC incoming which I plan on using with "USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO" app. I'll be connecting via an OTG usb cable. This will give me a high end source to drive some high end IEM earphones.
Pretty sure this will work, as the DAC is designed for Android 5.0 onwards. Will report back once I have all the parts and tested.
If that helps, I just attached my USB Headset to my phone and it works perfectly, volume control, muting and everything.
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If that helps, I just attached my USB Headset to my phone and it works perfectly, volume control, muting and everything.
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Nice!
Does the soundsettings work? Clearaudio and EQ etc? Also what headset are u using?
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I've got a Dragonfly Red USB DAC incoming which I plan on using with "USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO" app. I'll be connecting via an OTG usb cable. This will give me a high end source to drive some high end IEM earphones.
Pretty sure this will work, as the DAC is designed for Android 5.0 onwards. Will report back once I have all the parts and tested.
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Been using the above setup, and confirm its working good. The Sony audio settings (clear audio, DSEE HX, etc) do not have any effect on this DAC audio output (I wouldn't want to either, and I think these effects only alter the 2.5mm jack on the phone). I am using an app that has direct sound output to the DAC though, which bypasses the android sound resampling process. This gives you much better sound if you have a good DAC, or even one that is better than the on board sound.
I have been using Neutron and Poweramp players for audio listening. Testing between the two, both of the players have 192kHz/24bit playback for PCM. I wanted to check if the 660 snap allows 192+ and the volume dropped drastically when i chose 352.8 or 384(see the attachment below). This confirms that snapdragon 660 has its limit which is 192kHz. I was doing some digging on the snapdragon 660 audio dac for listening. This is what I have found from their website.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon-660-mobile-platform (see attachment below)
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/wcd9335 (see attachment below)
Audio Playback (WCD9335)
Playback Dynamic Range: 130dB
Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise (THD+N), Playback: -109dB
Sampling, Playback: 44.1kHz, 48kHz
PCM, Playback: Up to 192kHz/24bit
Speaker Playback (WSA881x) (not interested in the speaker amp)
Not many phones support my in-ear headphone P1 Pinnacle by Mee audio because it has impedance of 50Ω. It is difficult to drive those drivers in the headphone. Surprisingly I found redmi note 7 is playing it without trouble. Having said that I'm waiting for a type C to micro usb OTG cable to arrive to test the difference with a dedicated mobile amp + dac. Do you guys have any links that can help to find the actual audio output of redmi note 7 device like some graphs or real life testing through the 3.5mm jack? I'm wondering if i will need the mobile dac+amp at all.
Recent find:
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_7-review-1883p3.php (see attachment below)
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/91b096/9 (see attachment below)
Real life data reflects that it has good integrated dac and amp. However I would like to know more from audio experts here. By the way I found some articles regarding OEM disables the high quality of the dac and amp to save power by default. Now i need to understand if my neutron or poweramp can detect those. Any help would be appreciated.
Interesting, thanks for the info
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Interesting, thanks for the info
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You are welcome and I found some links to verify how much is real. Here are the links and some attachments.
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_7-review-1883p3.php
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/91b096/9