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Stock Unlocked Nexus One + root = voided warranty?

Hey Guys
I have bought myself a stock unlocked AT&T version of the Nexus one
It has never been rooted and I am on FRF85 at the moment (that was upgraded from EPE54b to FRF85 using the manual update method
Questions:
1. Does unlocking the bootloader mean you basically sim-unlock your phone?
2. If I have a stock unlocked phone, do I need to unlock the bootloader to root?
3. If I dont need to unlock the bootloader, when/if I decide to root my N1, will I lose warranty?
I guess question 3 is dependent on 2 above
Thanks

Unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with sim unlocking your phone, these are two complete separate things
1 no. but I think there is no locked n1 available, so it is unlocked quite sure
2 maybe, depends on your build number. I think you have to unlock your bootloader with the att version
3 no

watercool said:
Unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with sim unlocking your phone, these are two complete separate things
1 no. but I think there is no locked n1 available, so it is unlocked quite sure
2 maybe, depends on your build number. I think you have to unlock your bootloader with the att version
3 no
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regarding rooting without unlocking bootloader, see the sticky in the nexus android development section

@flybyme - thanks for your reply - i had a look at the sticky thread you were talking about rooting without unlocking the bootloader.
1. what's easier? Rooting with unlocking the bootloader or without the bootloader?
2. What's more fool-proof so-to-speak?
3. What would you recommend?
Sorry for so many questions but thanks for reading

1. With unlocking the bootloader is alot simplet BUT you will loose your waranty.
2. Once either process is complete there's no real difference since you can use the custom recovery in exactly the same way to flash any further roms.
3. I would suggest _without_ unlocking the bootloader. At least give it a try, the worst that can happen is it doesnt work.

[Q] Two questions regarding bootloader and rooting

This has been discussed many times before, but I have seen conflicting answers to these questions. I hope that by asking them again I can get a consensus from everyone.
Questions
1) Do you need to unlock your bootloader to be able to root your SP phone? Most people say yes, others think no.
2) If you need to unlock your bootloader, is it possible to do it when you have "bootloader unlock allowed: no" setting? Most people say no. For what it's worth, my phone is not SIM locked.
Thanks.

Yet.Another.ID said:
This has been discussed many times before, but I have seen conflicting answers to these questions. I hope that by asking them again I can get a consensus from everyone.
Questions
1) Do you need to unlock your bootloader to be able to root your SP phone? Most people say yes, others think no.
2) If you need to unlock your bootloader, is it possible to do it when you have "bootloader unlock allowed: no" setting? Most people say no. For what it's worth, my phone is not SIM locked.
Thanks.
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1) You don't need to unlock bootloader to root your SP.
2) You cannot unlock the bootloader, if you have "Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No"

Thanks, msainani.
On the one hand, it is good news that I can root without unlocking the bootloader.
But does this mean I cannot change ROMs or update the OS? What would be I be able to do with a phone that is both rooted and unlocked versus a phone that is rooted but locked?

[Q] Root after turning on Developer Options?

So I have a Moto X non Dev Ed on Verizion in the US. Which at this point I understand that bootloader is unlockable at this time for 4.4.2. I did activate the Developer Options in the settings though. I'm not sure if doing so, I will be able to unlock Bootloader. If any one knows, help is appreciated. I've tried to do some digging to see if this has been asked before but I didn't see anything or I may have missed it. Thanks for your help.

rodrap50 said:
So I have a Moto X non Dev Ed on Verizion in the US. Which at this point I understand that bootloader is unlockable at this time for 4.4.2. I did activate the Developer Options in the settings though. I'm not sure if doing so, I will be able to unlock Bootloader. If any one knows, help is appreciated. I've tried to do some digging to see if this has been asked before but I didn't see anything or I may have missed it. Thanks for your help.
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No. Developer options has absolutely nothing to do with unlocking the bootloader.
The ONLY possible way for you to unlock the bootloader is through the china middleman. See the thread titled "China Middleman Back?".
Good Luck

[Q] Rooting Moto X

Ok so sorry if this has already been posted but I can't find anything. This is my first attempt at rooting. I am trying to root my 2014 Moto x. I am on US cellular so I believe the model is XT1093. Not sure though as this seems to be missing from settings in lollipop. I tried a root tutorial for xt1097 but did not work. There is no OEM unlock setting in my Developer options. I think I have to unlock my bootloader through Motorola but havn't been successful.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Andrew

I've got the same problem here I think it's a US Cellular problem with what they eliminated from lollipop but I can't be sure looking everywhere but can't find any answers. I wish we could get some help with this though would love to unlock and root this thing.

Yea, I think your right about it being a US Cellular thing. No one else seems to have the problem and US Cellular is a unique model number (XT1093 vs 1095 or 1097). Iv tried to unlock the bootlader through motos web cite which should work but I'm having some difficulties. I entered the info from my device, it said it was able to be unlocked and gave me the unlock key. but when I entered the key I got an error. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or they are.. Still working on it..

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Yea, I think your right about it being a US Cellular thing. No one else seems to have the problem and US Cellular is a unique model number (XT1093 vs 1095 or 1097). Iv tried to unlock the bootlader through motos web cite which should work but I'm having some difficulties. I entered the info from my device, it said it was able to be unlocked and gave me the unlock key. but when I entered the key I got an error. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or they are.. Still working on it..
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What command are you using to unlock your bootloader with the key? And what error are you getting?

I've tried the unlock method from Motorola. It all works until it prompts you to check the box in developing. options that says unlock oem functions. On the 1093 in lollipop the dev. option is not there. Also tried the tool kit in this forum that is made for non pure phones... It works great... even tells you your phone is unlocked but it doesn't finish. What I mean is it doesn't reboot your phone and the phone is still locked. Really frustrating ? Any help or ideas are very welcome. PLEASE HELP!

Is there a way to root the phone without unlocking? Cause if we could... We could try a different rom and see if from there we could find the unlock box in the developer options.

Golfmech said:
Is there a way to root the phone without unlocking? Cause if we could... We could try a different rom and see if from there we could find the unlock box in the developer options.
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There's no such thing as "Unlock/ Unlock OEM functions" in developer options, in any ROM, ever.
Just found this.. Apparently Nexus 6 & 9 have this additional step to unlock the bootloader. I didn't have to do this while unlocking my device whilst on lollipop. So I'm gonna assume it's possible to unlock the bootloader on your device if this option is missing from the Developer Options..
Follow the procedure on motorola's website to unlock the bootloader and report back with the error you see on the online tool, or the actual device.
P.S - voids your warranty, unless you have a dev device

It doesn't give an error per say... It tells you to go to dev options and check the box or click on the option to unlock oem. Of course it's not there so the program will not execute the unlock. It says waiting for device....

Golfmech said:
It doesn't give an error per say... It tells you to go to dev options and check the box or click on the option to unlock oem. Of course it's not there so the program will not execute the unlock. It says waiting for device....
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Has there been any more insight on this?

After updating to 5.1, OEM unlock is in developer options now

Bootloader unlocked forever impossible ATT device?

I have a XT1097 devices ATT.
Other devices to support the official bootloader unlock and bypass
Why this device is still going to be no way.
I hope if is not required unlock bootloader Rooting exist.
Please tell us the best way.

m8928 said:
I have a XT1097 devices ATT.
Other devices to support the official bootloader unlock and bypass
Why this device is still going to be no way.
I hope if is not required unlock bootloader Rooting exist.
Please tell us the best way.
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You ask why?.... Thats why they have a "PURE EDITION".
You want the option of unlocking? Pay up.