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Hi, I'm leaving my garbage Xperia Sola after 2 years of blood cry because of its horrible SoC, its horrible software and his horrible support. Now I'm very interested in buying this new Moto G 2014. I ha ve some question for people more expert than me.
1) Do you know when it is going to be released in Italy?
2) What are the pros of this phone (other then price)?
3) Which features are a little economic or can create some troubles?
Thank you in advance
1) It's already available.
I'll answer based on reviews...
2) Build quality, screen, camera, battery life, stock android, android l update guaranteed.
3) Speakers are kinda weak, still using Snapdragon 400 and snapdragon 410 is already available.
Thank you for answers.
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1) It's already available.
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Really? In Western Europe Motorola site Moto G is Coming soon.
MiguelPT said:
Speakers are kinda weak
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Do you mean by loudness or by sound quality? In the latter case it wouldn't be a big problem for me.
MiguelPT said:
still using Snapdragon 400 and snapdragon 410 is already available.
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Snap 400 is a reliable proc, is there some other product with about same price that use Snap 410 for comparison?
Mons1990 said:
Thank you for answers.
Really? In Western Europe Motorola site Moto G is Coming soon.
Do you mean by loudness or by sound quality? In the latter case it wouldn't be a big problem for me.
Snap 400 is a reliable proc, is there some other product with about same price that use Snap 410 for comparison?
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It's already available in some european stores, like amazon.
I mean by sound quality, is poor, but i didn't test it myself.
Snap 400 uses A7 cores which makes it very slow compared to other SOCs, it's fast enough for now, but in the future i'm not sure. Snap 410 already uses new A53 cores which are a lot faster, efficient and supports 64-bit. The HTC Desire 510 comes with 410.
MiguelPT said:
Snap 400 uses A7 cores which makes it very slow compared to other SOCs, it's fast enough for now, but in the future i'm not sure. Snap 410 already uses new A53 cores which are a lot faster, efficient and supports 64-bit. The HTC Desire 510 comes with 410.
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I doubt that after Project Svelte in KitKat, they'd go back to a more cpu intensive way of operating. Android L having more animations, imo, will still be perfectly okay to run on a Snap 400, + ART Optimizations will also help. However, we can only wait and see :silly:
iG0tB00ts said:
I doubt that after Project Svelte in KitKat, they'd go back to a more cpu intensive way of operating. Android L having more animations, imo, will still be perfectly okay to run on a Snap 400, + ART Optimizations will also help. However, we can only wait and see :silly:
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I hope soo... They said i'll be easier on cpu and ram with ART, that's why i ordered this phone, i didn't spent an extra 130€ on the nexus 5 because of the battery.
how is the battery life?
MiguelPT said:
It's already available in some european stores, like amazon.
I mean by sound quality, is poor, but i didn't test it myself.
Snap 400 uses A7 cores which makes it very slow compared to other SOCs, it's fast enough for now, but in the future i'm not sure. Snap 410 already uses new A53 cores which are a lot faster, efficient and supports 64-bit. The HTC Desire 510 comes with 410.
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Thank you guy. I keep my Sola even if it sucks: this phone is too big and old.
Inviato dal mio Sony Xperia Tablet S attraverso l'app ufficiale xda-developers
Mons1990 said:
Thank you guy. I keep my Sola even if it sucks: this phone is too big and old.
Inviato dal mio Sony Xperia Tablet S attraverso l'app ufficiale xda-developers
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I wouldn't say it's old, but they could have updated the SoC...
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I wouldn't say it's old, but they could have updated the SoC...
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I know, that came from me. I think that for now we have to wait the Android L generation to know which phone is old and which is not; and usually my phones' life is of 2yrs or more, so I have to avoid to buy a phone and maybe 6 months later 1GB of ram become a ridiculous amount. I bought in 2011 a 512MB RAM phone, and now i have lots of troubles with it.
Let's see the price of Z1C at Christmas, when z3C will be already released.
I'm looking for a device to test android. I'm an iPhone user but always wanted to try the android world.
The other phones (htc m8, galaxy S5, xperia Z2) are too expensive in my country (damn taxes) and the low range devices are too underpowered and don't have a SD expansion (important to me).
I want a mid range phone to taste and if I decide to move to android I'll wait the Android L generation phones.
I don't play any games besides angry birds and boom beach. I do listen a lot of music (car Bluetooth) and GPS navigation (waze)
Maybe is the Moto G a good cost-benefit device?
I got mine yesterday. Performs just as well if not slightly faster than my NEXUS 4 (in terms of responsiveness). Limited memory can be a problem if you run multiple (memory intensive) apps simultaneously. When I run facebook app and chrome, it'll sometimes kick FB off memory, but it takes 2 sec to reload so not a big deal for me. Speakers are decent IMO. They are loud and distort at high volume, but knocking the volume down 2-3 steps help. Screen quality is very good and the gamut is similar to TV standard (~72% NTSC from what I can tell). The only quibble I found is stiffness of the buttons.
If you have any questions feel free to ask.
PS: I prefer SP 400 cos A7 is still more efficient than Cortex-A53. Also, ART should boost performance even further. I only wish the new Moto had 1.5 GB of RAM instead of 1.
MOTO G 2nd Generation Unboxing And Honest Review
http://youtu.be/7_iJYCZ-BGI
Mons1990 said:
I know, that came from me. I think that for now we have to wait the Android L generation to know which phone is old and which is not; and usually my phones' life is of 2yrs or more, so I have to avoid to buy a phone and maybe 6 months later 1GB of ram become a ridiculous amount. I bought in 2011 a 512MB RAM phone, and now i have lots of troubles with it.
Let's see the price of Z1C at Christmas, when z3C will be already released.
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Why are you comparing a 179$ phone with a 400$ phone? I don't understand why a lot of people compare a less than 200$ phone with a 400$ phone.
You should compare the new Moto X with Xperia Z1C, then it would be a fair comparison.
Hello all,
I have an upgrade to use with Verizon. Currently on the S5 and can't stand the fact there's no development cause of locked BS Samsung crap. Just wondering if I should get an "older" phone like the N6 or try out the G4 (they tend to get unlocked within a couple months). Want to get away form Touchjizz and Sammy thanks to Verizon. Any comments would be appreciated!
I recently purchased the Nexus 6 on Verizon and I'm extremely happy. I also have an active Note 4 and now never use it. I'm having so much fun flashing ROMs and customizing the device (wood back covers, etc) that being 6 months old doesnt bother me. I'll wait for the next Nexus before upgrading again.
Also, this is the only device that I've purchased from Verizon that came with ZERO bloat. Literally nothing. Even AT&T crapped that up. It doesn't make great use of Verizon's Advanced Calling feature (native video calling) but who cares. VoLTE works.
Obviously get the G4. Nexus devices have subpar battery life
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Obviously get the note 4. Nexus devices have subpar battery life
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Dude, i have almost never seen a postive comment of you about phones in multiple forums. Why do you always endup with the wrong phones and do you even have a Nexus 6?
That said both devices are awesome but very different. The G4 has a swapable battery, external sd card support up to 2TB, a superb camera wich some find even better then that of the Galaxy S6 and a gorgeous screen. Batterylife will be a bit better than de N6`s but the N6 is a developer phone with many choices of roms, kernels, and mods too choose from. The Nexus 6 has a good screen but in full sunlight sometimes not very clear, the speakers are great, its superfluid with no lags and in daily use a very good phone to use and it kind of grows on you
I recommend the 64GB version as there is no sdcard slot and the battery is not swapable and the speakers are very good imo.
So both have things going for them, best is to play with both in real life in a shop if you can and see wich one feels best for you.
@gee2012, am I lying about the battery life?
Nexus are great besides that and the camera
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@gee2012, am I lying about the battery life?
Nexus are great besides that and the camera
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I never call other users liars bro, i just noticed your name and it reminded me of the negative comments you used to post about the last years N5 i believe. But enough about that, the batttery gets me through the day and have about 4-4,5 hrs. screenontime wich is sufficient for me. Its not Note 4 and certainly not Ascend Mate 7 figures but enough for me It varies depending on settings and usage per user. The camera shoots pretty descent shots with sufficient light and lowlight with HDR+ isn`t bad either for me, but again not Galaxy S6 or even LG G3 quality.
Dennisg34 said:
Hello all,
I have an upgrade to use with Verizon. Currently on the S5 and can't stand the fact there's no development cause of locked BS Samsung crap. Just wondering if I should get an "older" phone like the N6 or try out the G4 (they tend to get unlocked within a couple months). Want to get away form Touchjizz and Sammy thanks to Verizon. Any comments would be appreciated!
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It depends whats important to you. The newest hardware of the lg g4 or the openness of the nexus 6 software. Most devices by today's standards do not lag or show much stuttering when doing basic tasks such as texting, emailing,calling, surfing the internet, etc. It comes down to what you plan on doing with the phone. Will gaming be an option? Are you looking for a top of the line Camera? Once you figure that out, the choice becomes clear.
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It depends whats important to you. The newest hardware of the lg g4 or the openness of the nexus 6 software. Most devices by today's standards do not lag or show much stuttering when doing basic tasks such as texting, emailing,calling, surfing the internet, etc. It comes down to what you plan on doing with the phone. Will gaming be an option? Are you looking for a top of the line Camera? Once you figure that out, the choice becomes clear.
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I think that lag is actually a very underrated issue with devices today. The G3 definitely lagged, and my S5 lagged horribly. Even the Note 4 isn't completely lag-free. However it does seem that reviewers haven't noticed any stutter in the G4, which is a good sign.
OP, one other thing to be aware of is that while the CPU in the 808 found in the G4 edges out the 805 found in the Nexus 6 the GPU in the 808 is significantly weaker than that of the 805. Otherwise I'm sure the G4 will be a great device. The camera will certainly be better than the N6's, and battery life should be comparable.
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I think that lag is actually a very underrated issue with devices today. The G3 definitely lagged, and my S5 lagged horribly. Even the Note 4 isn't completely lag-free. However it does seem that reviewers haven't noticed any stutter in the G4, which is a good sign.
OP, one other thing to be aware of is that while the CPU in the 808 found in the G4 edges out the 805 found in the Nexus 6 the GPU in the 808 is significantly weaker than that of the 805. Otherwise I'm sure the G4 will be a great device. The camera will certainly be better than the N6's, and battery life should be comparable.
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Can you link any websites showing the adreno 418 being worse than the 420? I did some fast googling and although there's not a lot of info it seems the 418 is as powerful as the 420 if not slightly more edging it out and is also made on a smaller die 20nm vs 28nm.
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Can you link any websites showing the adreno 418 being worse than the 420? I did some fast googling and although there's not a lot of info it seems the 418 is as powerful as the 420 if not slightly more edging it out and is also made on a smaller die 20nm vs 28nm.
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From Anandtech: "In terms of graphics performance, the Adreno 418 is apparently 20% faster than the Adreno 330...and the Adreno 420 itself is something like 40% faster than Adreno 330"
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7925/...bit-socs-with-lte-category-67-support-in-2015
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From Anandtech: "In terms of graphics performance, the Adreno 418 is apparently 20% faster than the Adreno 330...and the Adreno 420 itself is something like 40% faster than Adreno 330"
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7925/...bit-socs-with-lte-category-67-support-in-2015
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Ahh I kept googling adreno 420 vs 418. I should been looking at 418 vs 330. Thank you for this!
gee2012 said:
I never call other users liars bro, i just noticed your name and it reminded me of the negative comments you used to post about the last years N5 i believe. But enough about that, the batttery gets me through the day and have about 4-4,5 hrs. screenontime wich is sufficient for me. Its not Note 4 and certainly not Ascend Mate 7 figures but enough for me It varies depending on settings and usage per user. The camera shoots pretty descent shots with sufficient light and lowlight with HDR+ isn`t bad either for me, but again not Galaxy S6 or even LG G3 quality.
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It depends whats important to you. The newest hardware of the lg g4 or the openness of the nexus 6 software. Most devices by today's standards do not lag or show much stuttering when doing basic tasks such as texting, emailing,calling, surfing the internet, etc. It comes down to what you plan on doing with the phone. Will gaming be an option? Are you looking for a top of the line Camera? Once you figure that out, the choice becomes clear.
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semperfi123 said:
I think that lag is actually a very underrated issue with devices today. The G3 definitely lagged, and my S5 lagged horribly. Even the Note 4 isn't completely lag-free. However it does seem that reviewers haven't noticed any stutter in the G4, which is a good sign.
OP, one other thing to be aware of is that while the CPU in the 808 found in the G4 edges out the 805 found in the Nexus 6 the GPU in the 808 is significantly weaker than that of the 805. Otherwise I'm sure the G4 will be a great device. The camera will certainly be better than the N6's, and battery life should be comparable.
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Ed Murray said:
I recently purchased the Nexus 6 on Verizon and I'm extremely happy. I also have an active Note 4 and now never use it. I'm having so much fun flashing ROMs and customizing the device (wood back covers, etc) that being 6 months old doesnt bother me. I'll wait for the next Nexus before upgrading again.
Also, this is the only device that I've purchased from Verizon that came with ZERO bloat. Literally nothing. Even AT&T crapped that up. It doesn't make great use of Verizon's Advanced Calling feature (native video calling) but who cares. VoLTE works.
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Thanks everyone for your input! I would be using the camera more than gaming. Only gaming I do is the occasional w/e game while I'm taking care of business lol. Nexus was thrown in here because of all the development it has right now. I might be leaning towards the G4 just with all the extras it has and the phenomenal camera and it will still be faster than my S5. I own it, and yeah it does have some lag still. Can't stand Touchwhiz anymore and the lack of development thanks to their boost in security. Not sure why the last several Nexuses weren't removable batteries. Just an OCD thing on my part as well as external storage.
Yes Samsung phones have become harder to ROM, root, etc, unless you Go for T-Mobile/international and even then its not great.
If you plan on using the camera often, take it from a Nexus 6, Note 4 user - check out the G4.
That's my suggestion, good luck in your decision
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Thanks everyone for your input! I would be using the camera more than gaming. Only gaming I do is the occasional w/e game while I'm taking care of business lol. Nexus was thrown in here because of all the development it has right now. I might be leaning towards the G4 just with all the extras it has and the phenomenal camera and it will still be faster than my S5. I own it, and yeah it does have some lag still. Can't stand Touchwhiz anymore and the lack of development thanks to their boost in security. Not sure why the last several Nexuses weren't removable batteries. Just an OCD thing on my part as well as external storage.
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Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/new_oneplus_5_render_leaks_alongside_specs_and_price-news-25593.php
http://www.androidpure.com/exclusive-oneplus-5-rear-panel-full-image-leak/
OnePlus 5 Specifications
Snapdragon 835 (2.45 GHz)
5.5-inch 1080p DCI-P3 screen
3.300 mAh battery
6GB/8GB RAM LPDDR4X
64 GB/128 GB UFS 2.1 storage
0.2-second fast fingerprint reader
dual camera (20 MP f/2.6 and 16 MP f/1.7)
Bluetooth 5.0, LTE Cat 12
Price: US$ 479
The dimensions should be fairly similar to 3T and Oppo R11.
1080p OLED screen + Extremely efficient 10nm SD835 + 3300 mAh => thats a great combination (on paper) for a device with great SoT/Battery-life.
If we are to take cues from the Oppo R11 reviews the camera setup looks exactly the same as R11 where the second camera is a telephoto lens for 2x zoom and portrait bokeh purposes. If they score 89-90 on DxO mark this is going to be one of the best cameras on a smartphone for 2017.
With the exception of a faster processor, more storage and dual cameras, doesn't really appear too different from the 3T.
This video explains the design of the Oneplus 5 and why oneplus probably went in the direction where they took best design elements out of 3T and marry that to the iPhone 7s design. The reasoning behind the placement of dual cameras and the odd antenna lines on the top seems to make sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcfmTt7vwMU
My take on the design... It's most likely going into a case or getting a skin slapped onto it, which will help differentiate the phones. Then there is also the fact that the iPhone 7 is a good looking phone...and it feels good in the hand.
I'm excited for the phone. No doubts about getting it. I already know the first thing I'm going to do with it... Take pictures of my Nexus 6P and post it on Swappa.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/new_oneplus_5_render_leaks_alongside_specs_and_price-news-25593.php
http://www.androidpure.com/exclusive-oneplus-5-rear-panel-full-image-leak/
OnePlus 5 Specifications
Snapdragon 835 (2.45 GHz)
5.5-inch 1080p DCI-P3 screen
3.300 mAh battery
6GB/8GB RAM LPDDR4X
64 GB/128 GB UFS 2.1 storage
0.2-second fast fingerprint reader
dual camera (20 MP f/2.6 and 16 MP f/1.7)
Bluetooth 5.0, LTE Cat 12
Price: US$ 479
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With that speccs and design I think I am out, gonna wait for the new Pixels.
Perhaps I buy it and try it if it dont fits my needs I will sell it to my best friend since he needs a new phone and he other needs than I in an phone.
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
With that speccs and design I think I am out, gonna wait for the new Pixels.
Perhaps I buy it and try it if it dont fits my needs I will sell it to my best friend since he needs a new phone and he other needs than I in an phone.
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The new Pixels are to be made by LG, no way will I buy another LG phone.
Batfink33 said:
The new Pixels are to be made by LG, no way will I buy another LG phone.
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Still a a rumor, needs to be confirmed by an official Google Statement.
On the one hand it totally looks like a Oppo R11 twin with more powerful specs http://winfuture.mobi/bild/1497443227
But maybe there are some differences. Oneplus 3t is smaller than Oppo R11 and Oneplus published this picture which indicates IMO that Oneplus 5 is smaller than 3T.
https://mobile.twitter.com/oneplus/...45308.ampproject.net/1496877433269/frame.html
If OP5 would be even marginally narrower than 3T it would be a big selling point in my opinion.
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On the one hand it totally looks like a Oppo R11 twin with more powerful specs http://winfuture.mobi/bild/1497443227
But maybe there are some differences. Oneplus 3t is smaller than Oppo R11 and Oneplus published this picture which indicates IMO that Oneplus 5 is smaller than 3T.
https://mobile.twitter.com/oneplus/...45308.ampproject.net/1496877433269/frame.html
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That picture doesn't have the dual cameras so I doubt it's a Oneplus 5.
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ab7casper said:
My take on the design... It's most likely going into a case or getting a skin slapped onto it, which will help differentiate the phones. Then there is also the fact that the iPhone 7 is a good looking phone...and it feels good in the hand.
I'm excited for the phone. No doubts about getting it. I already know the first thing I'm going to do with it... Take pictures of my Nexus 6P and post it on Swappa.
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If only I can ditch my 6P & use the OP5 on Verizon. This would probably be the only reason I don't get one, is the fact it wouldn't be Verizon compatible.
Other than that, I've always wanted to try one. There is a slight chance of going to Tmobile, then I'm sure there's no issues there.
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With the exception of a faster processor, more storage and dual cameras, doesn't really appear too different from the 3T.
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Uh yes, with the exception of the faster and more efficient processor, larger and faster storage, and superior cameras, it's essentially the same phone.
Any guesses as to the price of the 128 version? Is it like a flat 100 extra? The no SD card will be a first for me since I've had Android (2008) so I'm a little annoyed with having to use an OTG drive or whatever else. I would be much more comfortable with the 128gb version unless it's close to 600.
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If only I can ditch my 6P & use the OP5 on Verizon. This would probably be the only reason I don't get one, is the fact it wouldn't be Verizon compatible.
Other than that, I've always wanted to try one. There is a slight chance of going to Tmobile, then I'm sure there's no issues there.
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A guy I work with is thinking about the U11, because Verizon/AT&T doesn't work at his house. I personally use StraightTalk with a Verizon sim. If I need to, I'll just get a new SIM card and stick it in. I just hope it will still be available on the 23rd, as thats when I get paid.
such a waste on specs
1080p no led? > so 2010
dual camera ? > use a charl zeis 41mp best mobile camera ever, if nokia ever with those huawei and even iphone cameras get trashed
i had high hopes because i saw they atleast gotten a 5.5" led screen but you say its a lcd
and seriously these features are worth nothing, dual camera for what ? its not like it is more professional it shows how idiotic people can be to have dual cameras in a phone to take a picture or selfies
sorry il wait for nokia and its charl zeis camera, no one beats those as far as i know
Get a look at the pre-order
http://www.oppomart.com/oneplus-5.html
So costly at $599! I hope they make some adjustments!
And also, the 128GB variant should be with 8GB RAM, right?
How come this thread says $479 and the post says $449?
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/05/05/oneplus-5-listed-oppomart-full-specifications-449-pricing/
This message popped up when I searched "oppomart" on Google.
OPPOMART - Buy OnePlus 5, Xiaomi Mi6, Smartphones and ...
www.oppomart.com/
This site may be hacked.
Buy Oneplus 3 and cases, cover, screen protector, and other accessories for Oneplus 3 phone, free express shipping worldwide. OPPOMART is the best shop to ...
OnePlus 5 · Phones · OnePlus 3T · OnePlus
So, I wouldn't trust anything on that page at all.
They aren't really releasing their next iteration without at least Quad HD Display, are they?
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They aren't really releasing their next iteration without at least Quad HD Display, are they?
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Probably trying to cut costs to a bare minimum, looks like they're trying to spin it with an accurate colour space but a massive mistake. A crazy move.
I am wondering why anyone, who has a OP5 or OP5T would upgrade?
My OP5 with the 835 CPU and 128Gb ram works great. OK, a couple of foibles, but there is no guarentee that they are fixed in the new one.
A new one has a slightly faster processor, OIS on the camera and a larger screen. Is that sufficient to change?
I'm curious - it's not a financial issue (I'm not broke), but I would need persuading.
Alan
It doesn't make sense.
1. With the speed upgrade what can you do or achieve in those split seconds.
2. Are those extra inch of display worth the price.
3. No comments on camera. Definitely those too are going to suck.
Wait for 7, I'm going to.
alan sh said:
I am wondering why anyone, who has a OP5 or OP5T would upgrade?
My OP5 with the 835 CPU and 128Gb ram works great. OK, a couple of foibles, but there is no guarentee that they are fixed in the new one.
A new one has a slightly faster processor, OIS on the camera and a larger screen. Is that sufficient to change?
I'm curious - it's not a financial issue (I'm not broke), but I would need persuading.
Alan
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Why ask us? It's your money, buy it or don't buy it.
Well a few reasons. I'm coming from a 5 not a 5T, so this makes a difference.
1. I sell my current phone after a year to get maximum
value back. That keeps my or of pocket for a new phone
usually at $100-$150.
2. With free money through new car test drive rewards, I
have $220 in rewards added to my paypal account
making the $579 OnePlus 6 just $360. With the sale of my
OnePlus 5, I shouldn't have any money out of pocket and
may make$20 or $40
3. The processor and new band 71 support for TMobile is a
nice feature.
4. The camera is certainly better in comparison tests to the
pixel 2 and s9+. The 19% size increase of the camera pixel
and OIS make for much better low light photos and
video capture.
5. The screen is larger. Not a notch fan but it's smaller then
most and you can hide it. So if I don't like who cares it's
gone.
There may be a few other reason I'm missing but to me those are what stick out right now. Oh and with glass, better reception and 4x4 MIMO (Gigabit LTE)
Edit: I wasn't sure but just read that the 128gb and 256gb storage options will both have UFS 2.1. I previously thought it was just the 256gb storage option. That will be huge speed increase in storage.
If I were you, I wouldn't "upgrade" to the OnePlus 6, nothing new besides OIS, larger screen and new CPU. Just a waste of money
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If I were you, I wouldn't "upgrade" to the OnePlus 6, nothing new besides OIS, larger screen and new CPU. Just a waste of money
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Definitely disagree. 4x4 MIMO for Gigabit LTE, UFS 2.1 storage (OP5 eMMc is 400mbps and UFS 2.1 is 1.5gbps), OIS plus 19% larger pixels for better low light pics, band 71 for TMobile users, bigger screen and more power efficient SoC.
It may not be enough for you to upgrade but certainly not a waste.
Eric214 said:
Definitely disagree. 4x4 MIMO for Gigabit LTE, UFS 2.1 storage (OP5 eMMc is 400mbps and UFS 2.1 is 1.5gbps), OIS plus 19% larger pixels for better low light pics, band 71 for TMobile users, bigger screen and more power efficient SoC.
It may not be enough for you to upgrade but certainly not a waste.
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OP5 has also UFS 2.1 storage.
I will wait for next Gen UFS 3 Smartphone.
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OP5 has also UFS 2.1 storage.
I will wait for next Gen UFS 3 Smartphone.
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Ahh I stand corrected, thought it had eMMc. All good. The rest is correct and still more then enough to upgrade from the 5, maybe not the 5T though.
Buy OP6 if you want that notched and back-shattering experience.
Considering that there is a 99.9% chance the 6T will be released in November, I'll hold onto my €600 and see if anything actually worth while comes on it that justifies spending the money compared to the 6.
I wouldn't bother. True the processor (I hear) is 30% faster but you have to balance that with the highly not-durable all glass body (front and back) and the minimal improvements. Too much risk to justify buying a new one.
Now that I think about it, there actually is one big improvement - project Treble.
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Now that I think about it, there actually is one big improvement - project Treble.
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Not a huge improvement, actually.
OnePlus dev community is one of the best and the 5 and 5t should receive many Android upgrades after OnePlus discontinues their support.
Also, with the latest OpenBetas, they've made changes to the partitions and the Camera Hal. Everything points to future Treble support for the 5 and 5t: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...opment/discussion-guide-oneplus-5-5t-t3776358
Cuz why not?
imo you should wait for 6T to release. People always buy non-T phones and get nervous after few months when OnePlus releases an upgraded version for the same price.
The reason why I would not move to OP6 from OP5 (no T)
- fingerprint on back (as also OP5T) is to me the biggest problem, considering I'm keeping the most of the time the phone on a desk
- camera: it's from OP3 they are saying it way better than before... but nothing (of few) has changed. If you buy OP, Camera it's not your nr 1 need
- is way bigger than a OP5 (of course, also OP5T)
- price !!
Here some reason why I would move:
- bigger screen (even if that notch...)
- 256GB possibility (but what a price !)
- Support to LTE Cat 13 and the 2x2 MIMO WiFi
Honestly I will stay on 5 until 6T and then let's see (if the will use fingerprint below screen)
I have been a pretty progressive one+ buyer. Daughter has one+3, wife has 1+3plus and I have the 5. Of course we've sold couple of oneplusone's and x. Since the 3 came out, everyone has been super satisfied with our devices. No root/custom ROM was required. Why do I upgrade? Because that's what our family do. It has definitely helped with keeping the cost down and everyone happy. I'm pretty sure other than cosmetics, not too much difference will be noticeable with 6. All of our one+ devices are in great working condition and still fast! Can't really tell the phones apart from the other. I try to upgrade every year. So does everyone in the family.
Basically , only because i have 64GB and to upgrade to 128 or 256
Just wait for T version, buying this mobile if you have oneplus 5 is pointless, even with T could be still pointless, it is just smartphone and almost exactly as previous one. Bigger screen is not 'life changer'
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It doesn't make sense.
1. With the speed upgrade what can you do or achieve in those split seconds.
2. Are those extra inch of display worth the price.
3. No comments on camera. Definitely those too are going to suck.
Wait for 7, I'm going to.
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Good points. It is pointless to upgrade to OP6 as there is no amazing feature that stands out.
So I have received an offer to sell my 6t for $450, so I was wondering if I sell it what my next phone will be?
Main concerns for Rog phone 2:
- Size
- weight
- Quality control as many people in china reported issues with the screen
- OS OTA updates/ bug fixes
Concerns about oneplus 7 pro:
- more expensive around $100 more
- Curved screen glare.
What do you recommend?
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So I have received an offer to sell my 6t for $450, so I was wondering if I sell it what my next phone will be?
Main concerns for Rog phone 2:
- Size
- weight
- Quality control as many people in china reported issues with the screen
- OS OTA updates/ bug fixes
Concerns about oneplus 7 pro:
- more expensive around $100 more
- Curved screen glare.
What do you recommend?
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I will go with the ROG. For a couple of reasons: Cheaper, design symmetry, better front firing dual speakers, 120 HZ screen and finally longer battery life. Regarding your concerns the weight isn't a big of a deal as they make it sound to be, in terms of size; yes it is big but it's similar to 1+ size. QC issues that will depend on how you view it personally I have no issues except for some software bugs I hope they fix soon in a future update.
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I will go with the ROG. For a couple of reasons: Cheaper, design symmetry, better front firing dual speakers, 120 HZ screen and finally longer battery life. Regarding your concerns the weight isn't a big of a deal as they make it sound to be, in terms of size; yes it is big but it's similar to 1+ size. QC issues that will depend on how you view it personally I have no issues except for some software bugs I hope they fix soon in a future update.
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I m reading many people's review regarding screen some experience some choppiness, low brightness or screen yellow light white?
Did the phone receive any updates yet?
I haven't seen any of that. Just the fact that not every app runs at 120fps. Other than that everything else I love about it.
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I haven't seen any of that. Just the fact that not every app runs at 120fps. Other than that everything else I love about it.
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oh thank you for your feedback, did you face any issues with google on mobile data? I do use google maps a lot on mobile data while driving.
No issues with google maps or tmobile. I'm using the tencent version. Although when I first had hotspot on I couldn't use gps. It seems to have sorted itself out though.
Dude go with ROG. I have the 7. The curved screen has been such a hassle. Always closing or pressing things I didn't mean to. And when gaming it's really really annoying.
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Dude go with ROG. I have the 7. The curved screen has been such a hassle. Always closing or pressing things I didn't mean to. And when gaming it's really really annoying.
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Do you think it will have a dev community like the zenphone 6?
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Do you think it will have a dev community like the zenphone 6?
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ohh man i have no idea. I hope so. Given how many sold so quickly and asus releasing unlocker I am sure there will be some movement. Also hopeful just looking at threads in this forum. Folks already flashing WW to CN version and got root. I am sure we will be fine. $500 for this phone is a steal.
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ohh man i have no idea. I hope so. Given how many sold so quickly and asus releasing unlocker I am sure there will be some movement. Also hopeful just looking at threads in this forum. Folks already flashing WW to CN version and got root. I am sure we will be fine. $500 for this phone is a steal.
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Isn't there a chinese website like xda? I bet they have achieved so root and mods to the device!
I have both. ROG 2 is taller even though OP7Pro has a bigger screen. Weight they're both heavy but ROG a bit heavier. OP screen is a lot brighter than my ROG. It will probably deoend on how you use your phone. I will sell my OnePlus and keep my ROG for the battery. I'm a casual gamer and heavy user of FB, FB Messenger, Viber, some YouTube and casual gamer and OnePlus gets me 4-5 hrs of SOT while ROG gets me 8-9hrs.
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I have both. ROG 2 is taller even though OP7Pro has a bigger screen. Weight they're both heavy but ROG a bit heavier. OP screen is a lot brighter than my ROG. It will probably deoend on how you use your phone. I will sell my OnePlus and keep my ROG for the battery. I'm a casual gamer and heavy user of FB, FB Messenger, Viber, some YouTube and casual gamer and OnePlus gets me 4-5 hrs of SOT while ROG gets me 8-9hrs.
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But OS updates and bug fixing, rog rarely receives updates. Which device has better haptics?
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But OS updates and bug fixing, rog rarely receives updates. Which device has better haptics?
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This is my first ROG Phone but a friend of mine has the ROG 1 and he is still on Oreo and last update he had I think was last March. So yeah in this regard OnePlus is better.
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This is my first ROG Phone but a friend of mine has the ROG 1 and he is still on Oreo and last update he had I think was last March. So yeah in this regard OnePlus is better.
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I have the Rog 1 and 2. Because i love both i haven't sold the first generation. Regarding updates i believe the Rog phone 2 will get better support because of it's popularity and price, yes the first generation isn't getting a lot of updates and we will be getting the Pie update i believe by the end of September at most if not earlier.
But coming back to the question of updates, do current updates have any added features ...barely in my opinion except for the security updates which the Rog phone is getting every 3 months since it was launched. I even prefer the Oreo rom on the Rog 1 over the Pie rom of the ROG 2 which to me doesn't add any added features what so over i even feel it's a downgrade in comparison, regarding Android Q or 10, the only thing to look for is improved gesture navigation and dark mode which we are enjoying currently on the ROG 2.
@Shady282 Good luck with which ever phone you go with!
for sure rog phone 2 is the winner.. i bought the 8/128GB version. its enough for me , 12 gb ram wont be used its only for marketing strategy and its only if anyone want more storage like 512gb.
rog phone 2 has an amazing 120hz oled 1ms pixel response, 10bit hdr10 almost full dci p3 screen with 240hz touch sample. latest plus processor with better 15% gpu performance,better front facing speakers,6000mah, 3,5mm jack, gorilla glass 6, ufs 3.0, 48+13mpx and 24 back and front camera with amazing stabilization, better haptics feed, better gaming and costant framerate, lots of usb c 3.1 with video output, fast charge( up to 30 watt supported).. its a best buy at 550$
oneplus 7 pro is less smooth 90hz and higher resolution will impact gaming and gpu benchmarks. no 3,5 mm jack, lower battery capacity, curved edges are cool but not useful and make accidental touches, worse speakers and stardard 855 processor. it cost 200$ more
maybe the only reason to switch to oneplus is software community and development, but i will stay to rog phone 2 due to better specs and price
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for sure rog phone 2 is the winner.. i bought the 8/128GB version. its enough for me , 12 gb ram wont be used its only for marketing strategy and its only if anyone want more storage like 512gb.
rog phone 2 has an amazing 120hz oled 1ms pixel response, 10bit hdr10 almost full dci p3 screen with 240hz touch sample. latest plus processor with better 15% gpu performance,better front facing speakers,6000mah, 3,5mm jack, gorilla glass 6, ufs 3.0, 48+13mpx and 24 back and front camera with amazing stabilization, better haptics feed, better gaming and costant framerate, lots of usb c 3.1 with video output, fast charge( up to 30 watt supported).. its a best buy at 550$
oneplus 7 pro is less smooth 90hz and higher resolution will impact gaming and gpu benchmarks. no 3,5 mm jack, lower battery capacity, curved edges are cool but not useful and make accidental touches, worse speakers and stardard 855 processor. it cost 200$ more
maybe the only reason to switch to oneplus is software community and development, but i will stay to rog phone 2 due to better specs and price
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I m really liking the rog for all the specs but new OS gets a lot of optimizations in many different area even games performance, also fixes many bugs. The thing about asus with rog, is that they don't fix their bugs and u won't experience improved New OS features.
Also don't forget oneplus updates their phone much much faster than asus so my concern will be if asus will change their ways. They still didn't update rog phone 1 to Pie yet...
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Also don't forget oneplus updates their phone much much faster than asus so my concern will be if asus will change their ways. They still didn't update rog phone 1 to Pie yet...
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yes, but they made a lot of sales now and community here is doing great stuff and good spirit... customs roms may save this device.
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yes, but they made a lot of sales now and community here is doing great stuff and good spirit... customs roms may save this device.
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Custom roms will cut almost all new features of rog 2 btw. So its only remains to hope asus will provide updates and optimization for 855+ and 120hz the most
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Custom roms will cut almost all new features of rog 2 btw. So its only remains to hope asus will provide updates and optimization for 855+ and 120hz the most
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Aouch, i totally forgot about this! Did the CN rom receive any updates, bug fixes since the phone release ?