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I'm looking for a kernel and custom rom that give me a perfect balance between battery life and performance on my Nexus 6. Thanks for the help.
Bliss pop and elementalx
I use BrokenOS(personal preference, mainly for UI) and Sensei kernel for battery. Its extremely customizable and upstreams the best features and optimizations from other kernels like elementalx and Franco and the likes. He releases it a few days after (or day of) and its extremely customizable. I've used it since release 5. He's currently on release 34
BlissPop and Franco Kernel :good:
I notice significant battery improvement with ElementalX kernel over stock kernel.
first off, kernels do not give you better battery. its a huge misconception. a kernel can help you better your battery, but will not improve your battery. you can get the same improvements by messing with your cpu yourself. battery life is all about how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what kinds of apps you install, and ver much the quality if your phone/data signal. thats it. there is no magic pill(kernel) that you can take to improve your battery life. if you want better battery life, keep away from terribly written apps, and apps that drain your phones resources.
simms22 said:
first off, kernels do not give you better battery. its a huge misconception. a kernel can help you better your battery, but will not improve your battery. you can get the same improvements by messing with your cpu yourself. battery life is all about how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what kinds of apps you install, and ver much the quality if your phone/data signal. thats it. there is no magic pill(kernel) that you can take to improve your battery life. if you want better battery life, keep away from terribly written apps, and apps that drain your phones resources.
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Even then some kernels have customizations and optimizations to help lengthen the battery life. For example different CPU govorners and reduce unneeded clock speed overhead and under clocking can help too with the help of a custom kernel. So yes, poorly written apps and sensors that hog power tend to be the majority of power loss, I still think that the kernels introduce a bit of help too
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the LeEco Le Pro3 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
With heavy gaming you get around 4 hours SOT with custom ROM. Stock ROM get 5 hours SOT
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Never noticed this sub-section haha. This is from stock, about 6 months ago. I only charge up to 60% now, so I don't have any recent screenshots that start near 90-100.
Stock based rom. Almost 2 days unpluged, mainly light usage, some gps and camera. Cannot even come close to this on any cm or aosp based rom.
Stock rom 23S 2 days or more with light to medium usage no games just internet, socials app, youtube etc. I have few phones the Pro 3 is the fastest for day to day use, loading apps quickly I got the 6Gb ram/64Gb rom version.
Omni 20170820. I get about 9+ hours of SOT with using GhostPepper governor. About 60 ~ 75 min. for 10% of battery and idle drain eating the rest.
4K2K said:
Omni 20170820. I get about 9+ hours of SOT with using GhostPepper governor. About 60 ~ 75 min. for 10% of battery and idle drain eating the rest.
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Holy crap! What are all the mods you did and how is your usage of the phone?
islandlife98 said:
Holy crap! What are all the mods you did and how is your usage of the phone?
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He said as his first word: Omni ROM.. Search here in the XDA.. Maybe they tell you about this governor.. I will search
4K2K said:
Omni 20170820. I get about 9+ hours of SOT with using GhostPepper governor. About 60 ~ 75 min. for 10% of battery and idle drain eating the rest.
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Do you have stock kernel or another one?
Do you have any visible bug like battery stats and others?
You people have to remember that there's TWO versions of Le Pro 3.. one with 4gb ram... other 6gb ram... there's a HUGE gap between those two models regarding battery life IMHO...
Luckzzz said:
You people have to remember that there's TWO versions of Le Pro 3.. one with 4gb ram... other 6gb ram... there's a HUGE gap between those two models regarding battery life IMHO...
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Like what? 2gb extra brings more battery life, because it keeps more app in the background?
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Like what? 2gb extra brings more battery life, because it keeps more app in the background?
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Unlike.. 2gb more ram hogs more battery as it asks the CPU more things to do and stuff (I'm not the guy to explain it hahah).. but do you think a (supposed) 16gb ram mobile can't hog more battery? Think about that
SUMMERBREEZE said:
Like what? 2gb extra brings more battery life, because it keeps more app in the background?
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If you want great battery life buy phone with Snapdragon 625, every day use is plenty fast, fine, simlar to Sd820/821. Xiaomi phone is ok they have few with Sd625.
Luckzzz said:
You people have to remember that there's TWO versions of Le Pro 3.. one with 4gb ram... other 6gb ram... there's a HUGE gap between those two models regarding battery life IMHO...
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This "HUGE" gap is theoretically 5% mentiond by Qualcomm itself if you cmp the sd820 with the 821.. That isn't huge but still 0.5/10th of the battery life, depending on how well the rom has been ported and optimized.
For the stock rom, it will probably last. But if you don't like the iOS clone design of android that runs on it well, a custom rom isn't going to beat it anytime soon unfortunately..
Omnirom 20171018 + Black Screen Kernel v3.6.1 + Ex Kernel Manager (alucard governor, I/O is noop, perfd is disabled)
No gaming, but plently social media apps, internet, wifi etc.
It is between 8 to 9.5 hours up to the usage. Your usages may varry though.
islandlife98 said:
Holy crap! What are all the mods you did and how is your usage of the phone?
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GhostPepper 2.0 as Advanced Governor Profile. There are better battery saving profiles but I find GP2.0 to be the smoothest while proving excellent battery life.
Autostarts to unlink unnecessary event trigger.
Greenify to force certain misbehaving apps to sleep instead of sucking up battery background.
Forcedoze to further force doze but I am not sure if it is useful at this point. I am considering to uninstall it.
Underclock to 1516 and 1900mhz. I do not use heavy apps so it works for me.
I also use battery in 40 ~ 80% range so after a full year of use, my battery is in good shape. I only charge up to 90~100% when I'm traveling.
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Do you have stock kernel or another one?
Do you have any visible bug like battery stats and others?
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Stock Omni kernel. I've been on 0820 build/kernel as versions after it gave me worse battery life. Then I recently updated rom to the latest one due to KRACK. I noticed that the kernel is still draining more battery so I flashed 0820 kernel.
Now, my understanding is that battery drain is function of kernel, not rom. But with latest rom and 0820 kernel setting, I am seeing significantly higher battery usage. It could be some other factor so I am in test mode now.
Battery stats bug? Big core battery stats in EX Kernel Manager. Never had that issue on 0820 but with latest version, I do see it.
SUMMERBREEZE said:
Omnirom 20171018 + Black Screen Kernel v3.6.1 + Ex Kernel Manager (alucard governor, I/O is noop, perfd is disabled)
No gaming, but plently social media apps, internet, wifi etc.
It is between 8 to 9.5 hours up to the usage. Your usages may varry though.
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I gave Black Screen Kernel and Alucard governor a try after reading your post. Though it is too early to draw a call, it seems to be slightly better than GhostPepper tweak. It is very very good.
Ive Got LineageOS 14.1 and latest BlackScreen, but my SOT is between 5-5.30h :[
Im using ondemand cpu governor on big cores and schetudil on small ones.
GPU governor is simple_ondemand, I/O is set as Noop, there is also low memory killer set as agressive.
Im also using Greenify (without shallow Hibernation).
Im thinking that Its not good score for my settings. What should, i change?
Thanks!
I reached 9 hours sot without akt or anything else. Just the banggood's 20s rom. I am pretty impressed.
I have the elite x722. Sorry.
Don't normally go past 7 hours , system service always seems to drain my battery
Hi, I have a one plus 3t and I would like if someone knows a configuration to play, if it exists or something.
Thank you
As long as the Kernel does not underclock your CPU/GPU for Battery Life, any Kernel/ROM should be fine.
thes3usa said:
As long as the Kernel does not underclock your CPU/GPU for Battery Life, any Kernel/ROM should be fine.
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That's what I would think. The hardware on this phone is killer. Only bettered by Snapdragon 835 phones (or the upcoming phones for this year).
I wonder if the top poster is having a specific issue with games? Or just looking to tweak/overclock, despite no real issues?
redpoint73 said:
That's what I would think. The hardware on this phone is killer. Only bettered by Snapdragon 835 phones (or the upcoming phones for this year).
I wonder if the top poster is having a specific issue with games? Or just looking to tweak/overclock, despite no real issues?
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I'm guessing the latter. He's probably on Stock, and he just wants to know if there's any possibility on increasing Performance in Workloads/Games. Nothing much else.
If he does want some recommendations, Caesium Kernel or ElementalX paired with Stock or a highly AOSP based ROM like NOS should do well. Not that the other Kernels or ROMs will be much different, this is just my experience.
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I'm guessing the latter. He's probably on Stock, and he just wants to know if there's any possibility on increasing Performance in Workloads/Games. Nothing much else.
If he does want some recommendations, Caesium Kernel or ElementalX paired with Stock or a highly AOSP based ROM like NOS should do well. Not that the other Kernels or ROMs will be much different, this is just my experience.
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right now I am using the z-unleasht, it runs well the games but it was out of curiosity if there was some configuration of Kernel so that it does not drink so much battery and render better
You should try helix engine: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/app-helix-engine-v1-0-beta-3-t3745746/
Then use "AKT balanced" (change in settings). You can choose for every App other profiles -> change it to performance for your games.
Then you have a fast smartphone with great battery life, and performance while gaming.
You need to be rooted
isaac.mesacorpas said:
right now I am using the z-unleasht, it runs well the games but it was out of curiosity if there was some configuration of Kernel so that it does not drink so much battery and render better
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It's not possible to go after battery economy while wanting to perform heavy duty tasks.
It's either one or the other.
Unleashed by my rooted OP3T on 8.0
thanks for the app i am researching to have ..
Hi guys, i have tried many custom kernel such as ElementalX, Flash kernel, Boeffla, Blu_spark, Wolfram..... etc and I still find that my OnePlus 3T can't handle big games..... unstable FPS even at low settings.... and It heats up pretty quick and render the CPU to lower its frequency, etc.....
Has anyone compared if the 12.0 releases have better thermal performance as compared to the 12.5 release?
My K20Pro running on 12.0 is much cooler than my 11Ultra running 12.5. Sure, people have been saying that the snapdragon 888 runs hot but at the same time I've been seeing reports that other devices include the Redmi Note series are also experiencing heat issues after updating to 12.5.
Honestly for me heating has never been an issue, what do you think a good thermal would be like for you?
Probably like not reaching 39C for anything non-gaming or video calling activity?
Mine is not reaching it
Good for you. Many others are unfortunate like me
What is your room temp?
lambstone said:
Good for you. Many others are unfortunate like me
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I felt the same way. I used it for 2 days with 12.0.9 when i got the mi11ultra and i didnt feel the heat. When i updated to 12.5 e felt it.
wondering if its possible to downgrade without bootloader unlocked?
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What is your room temp?
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Room temp doesn't matter, not when it comes to the 11Ultra. With AC on at a comfy 24C as opposed to just a fan with a room temp of 29C its still the same heating issues just a matter of the ramp up time for heat.
xwonic said:
I felt the same way. I used it for 2 days with 12.0.9 when i got the mi11ultra and i didnt feel the heat. When i updated to 12.5 e felt it.
wondering if its possible to downgrade without bootloader unlocked?
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Damn, so its much better on 12.0.9? I'm going to flash 12.0.9 this weekend. AFAIK, downgrading either way will require a wipe and I think you'll need to unlock BL either way.
May be not what you are looking for, I rooted the phone for CustoMIUIzer tweak. I also installed Franco kernal and there I underclocked the kernal CPU by 25% (75% working) and optimized its GPU. This has dramatically improved the thermals and battery performance. Idle temp of the phone drops to 25C regularly. For the past one day, it has not reached 37C when doing routine browsing, calling and texting etc. The temp jumped to 40C during HD video playback, and once to 41C while playing angry birds. During quick charging at high ambient temp, it touched 44C once. Normally with the Mi quick wireless charger (80W), the temp variates between 40-43C.
Im yet to notice the anticipated drop in performance of the phone. For routine games and HD video playback, 75% performance of this beast is enough so far. It is as smooth as it is supposed to be.
hellodrsoul said:
May be not what you are looking for, I rooted the phone for CustoMIUIzer tweak. I also installed Franco kernal and there I underclocked the kernal CPU by 25% (75% working) and optimized its GPU. This has dramatically improved the thermals and battery performance. Idle temp of the phone drops to 25C regularly. For the past one day, it has not reached 37C when doing routine browsing, calling and texting etc. The temp jumped to 40C during HD video playback, and once to 41C while playing angry birds. During quick charging at high ambient temp, it touched 44C once. Normally with the Mi quick wireless charger (80W), the temp variates between 40-43C.
Im yet to notice the anticipated drop in performance of the phone. For routine games and HD video playback, 75% performance of this beast is enough so far. It is as smooth as it is supposed to be.
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Buy the fastest most expensive cpu on the market and then cripple it!?
You could have just bought a mid ranger and saved a pile of money.....
speedtripler said:
Buy the fastest most expensive cpu on the market and then cripple it!?
You could have just bought a mid ranger and saved a pile of money.....
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According to my daily use of the phone, I do not need the full processor power. Seventy-five percent power is enough for that. For some long tasks, such as reading a lengthy pdf or google maps on a road trip, even 50% CPU power may be enough, granting enhanced battery performance and heat management. For the most intensive tasks, I can restore it to its original might (or even overclock it for that matter) just by toggling a switch, if that shall be desired. Options are good to have. A software fix and aggressive management of heat officially by Xiaomi, the point here by OP, will be welcomed of course.
speedtripler said:
Buy the fastest most expensive cpu on the market and then cripple it!?
You could have just bought a mid ranger and saved a pile of money.....
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actually a snap865 is really really fast and more then capable of running everything except gamming in comparison, and if you don't game high 3d games then you don't need the full power of the snap888 which is 25% faster.
I actually paid 850€ for mostly the camera and the media comfort, so i have to agree with hellodrsoul, if your main goal is have a phone for this purposed(no hardcore gaming) then capping it is a good thing,
also yeah Xiaomi is lacking in the optimization department.
on March everyone was stating in news about the mi 11 ultra
World’s First Full Phase Change Heat Dissipation Technologyeither it sucks or xiaomi software team is at blame.
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According to my daily use of the phone, I do not need the full processor power. Seventy-five percent power is enough for that. For some long tasks, such as reading a lengthy pdf or google maps on a road trip, even 50% CPU power may be enough, granting enhanced battery performance and heat management. For the most intensive tasks, I can restore it to its original might (or even overclock it for that matter) just by toggling a switch, if that shall be desired. Options are good to have. A software fix and aggressive management of heat officially by Xiaomi, the point here by OP, will be welcomed of course.
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The CPU is smart enough to not run at 100% when it's not necessary......
speedtripler said:
The CPU is smart enough to not run at 100% when it's not necessary......
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Yes, it generally is smart enough but it is overheating for some people. There, one has to intervene...
hellodrsoul said:
May be not what you are looking for, I rooted the phone for CustoMIUIzer tweak. I also installed Franco kernal and there I underclocked the kernal CPU by 25% (75% working) and optimized its GPU.....
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Hold on, Franco Kernel Manager you mean? I don't believe there's a custom kernel yet
lambstone said:
Hold on, Franco Kernel Manager you mean? I don't believe there's a custom kernel yet
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Yes, Franco Kernal manager. The link is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.kernel
You are right. There are no custom kernals available yet. But the FKM has the option to underclock the CPU and GPU and for me it works flawlessly.
Hi guys, I installed ThundeRStormS kernel on my S10, and I was wondering since the battery drops very quickly, always less than before fortunately (without a custom kernel it was even worse) is there any Rom or Kernel that reduce even more the battery drain?
Thanks in advance
Been using thunderstorms kernel for the past 3 months alongside beyondrom and i must say that my idle battery increased significantly. However upon gaming the difference on battery life while using stock rom, beyondrom and LOS is small. But beyond+TS kernel removed the heating issue that my s10 exynos used to have, no more throttling. You could try Batterxynos or betterxynos kernel (can't remember which is correct) and see if it makes a difference vs TS kernel. Also, if you come from a fresh install OS, give the device a couple of days to adjust to your usage, and it shall automatically detect your usage pattern therefore giving you more juice when you need it
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Been using thunderstorms kernel for the past 3 months alongside beyondrom and i must say that my idle battery increased significantly. However upon gaming the difference on battery life while using stock rom, beyondrom and LOS is small. But beyond+TS kernel removed the heating issue that my s10 exynos used to have, no more throttling. You could try Batterxynos or betterxynos kernel (can't remember which is correct) and see if it makes a difference vs TS kernel. Also, if you come from a fresh install OS, give the device a couple of days to adjust to your usage, and it shall automatically detect your usage pattern therefore giving you more juice when you need it
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Nice solution Beyondrom + TS, i've throtting and battery drain. I will find what is right for me, thanks for the reply
Deacon8998 said:
Nice solution Beyondrom + TS, i've throtting and battery drain. I will find what is right for me, thanks for the reply
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Do note that by using custom roms you cannot use some samsung apps. However, on beyondrom i can confirm that by flashing multidisabler and hiding magisk you can use Securefolder. Not samsung pay though and samsung pass. On the otherhand, goodluck!