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I'm thinking of purchasing one would someone be willing to tell me the pro's and con's of this phone?
before you read my response, read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/attention-questions-t3228454
pro.. i love the damn thing too much, its seriously making me think twice about buying a nexus 6p
con.. i love the damn thing too much, its seriously making me think twice about buying a nexus 6p
I got one yesterday and love it. Easy to unlock the bootloader and rooting. Using wufresh toolkit is foolproof. Now to decided if I should make a ROM or just use what's out there which is plenty. No regrets at all. And this device always getting updates. Good luck.
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Its a super phone! Once you get hooked to the display, you won't like any thing smaller. Fluid as water, looks gorgeous, gets latest from Google, i already have 6.0.1 running on it! Numerous custom roms, best of community support!
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I got one from Amazon's black friday deal. Had an HTC one m9 beforry but the N6 serves my purposes better.
Yea it's a little large and needs some time to get use to the size, but it's a great phone. Very smooth and no lag at all. You won't be disappointed.
It's a solid device. If you open up a lot of apps, it's better than any phone I've used at keeping them in system memory.
The camera isn't good without ideal light, and the vibration motor is the worst since my Moto Cliq. But you can root away one, the other not so much
i love mine, its fast, its big..handy if your eyes are getting a bit older. Easy to root, unlock. Now if i only knew how to make roms i would be very happy.
TMG1961 said:
Now if i only knew how to make roms i would be very happy.
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Well, with a lot of patience, I can assure you
For starters, build a basic AOSP rom, then take your time to map out how what works, and take baby steps.
So far the only thing I've changed was:
- Dismiss all button for recents
- Fix menu button on the navigation bar, now it has four buttons equally distributed
- UI tuner is always on, and can't be turned off (but I left the spinning gear in, it's cool)
- Settings displays my version
- You can access the Clock app tapping any time or date field on the status bar, and not just the next alarm
- And more fixes, like making Battery saving location not soft rebooting on AOSP
- And the most significant change that the white "android" boot animation (the one you see if sou don't have a botanimation.zip) is replaced by a cyan colored "cyosp" one (you can see in my signature)
istperson said:
Well, with a lot of patience, I can assure you
For starters, build a basic AOSP rom, then take your time to map out how what works, and take baby steps.
So far the only thing I've changed was:
- Dismiss all button for recents
- Fix menu button on the navigation bar, now it has four buttons equally distributed
- UI tuner is always on, and can't be turned off (but I left the spinning gear in, it's cool)
- Settings displays my version
- You can access the Clock app tapping any time or date field on the status bar, and not just the next alarm
- And more fixes, like making Battery saving location not soft rebooting on AOSP
- And the most significant change that the white "android" boot animation (the one you see if sou don't have a botanimation.zip) is replaced by a cyan colored "cyosp" one (you can see in my signature)
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Thanks for your answer
I'm also thinking of purchasing this phone very soon. Few questions as well:
The phone is already a year old. Is this phone good if I'm thinking of using it for at least 18mo?
That display/brightness...I've heard its really dim (270 nits, really?), and damn near unreadable outdoors. Just overexhaggerating here on reviewers' part? As a reference, I'm coming from an LG G3.
Thanks!
I am currently resisting an upgrade, most of reviews are just give you 10 new changes but hardly anyone talks about any missing features.
Anyone can provide their list of Pros & Cons?
if none of the issues raised in some of the threads are a problem as they were not for me then go for PIE
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/downgrading-to-oreo-8-1-official-pie-t3897013
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/downgrade-to-android-oreo-t3890956
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/multi-window-option-missing-pie-update-t3891100
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-update-car-bluetooth-issue-t3896041
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/compass-off-pie-t3898807
etc. etc.
vadimo said:
I am currently resisting an upgrade, most of reviews are just give you 10 new changes but hardly anyone talks about any missing features.
Anyone can provide their list of Pros & Cons?
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faster, smoother (after 14 days to settle down), 10% higher GPU scores on average from diff test/games from the new driver, better CPU management (still far from the maximum possible tho), better single hand usage, better portrait typing (the keyboard is lifted, my hands don't hurt anymore when typing a lot in portrait), overall the one UI is good, battery life is a little bit less for me - most likely because of the new CPU control for more performance, multiwindow is killed - it's like the google stock solution (no swipe from corner to pop-out, no fast split scree with swipe up recents and hold, no menu between the split apps so you can't switch their place without cutting youtube video etc, no hold down from recents to quickly popout or split - you need the stupid menu), sound system is worse and not following google compatibility guide (if it was not samsung, google would not let them cert that version as it won't pass their checklist) - leading to worse audio from something like poweramp hi-res + I feel overall the sound is worse vs oreo (both speakers and headphones). Overall a worth update, because of the single hand usage and the pure smoothness/speed... but it's not a pure WIN-WIN.
I use multi window, edge panel, resize window and good lock
Looks like pie is not for me and I dont have any issues with Oreo
Probably will stick with that
Yeah, I'd say you're just going to get the same responses that are in the other half dozen similar threads. Personally I love Pie. There's a minority that doesn't. Every single one of them started s thread to ask others if they also disliked it and wanted to downgrade.
Hi dear members.
Long story short, i am fed up with the display setting that it's supposed to force fullscreen on selected apps but that does nothing 90% of the time at best. I also noticed that many people over here and reddit hoped that developpement would help bringing this to life with time.
I see that we couldn't find a sustainable solution for this, no modding, no rooting, no custom rom...
Only "app cloner" manages the result but doesn't work with many apps.
I wish we could have a developer option allowing the notch to be ignored system wide. Even if it means losing that circle portion of the display with app details being rendered behind the punch hole.
I bought into losing a small circle, not an entire portion of my screen. End result is that the screen panel is bigger than the galaxy s9 (or my previous lg v30) but in reality there is less usable screen space with this phone.
If we manage, all of our apps could take advantage of the entire screen. Too many apps are cut on top or on the side (landscape). Other 16/9 apps arend centered (fullscreen browser videos, many games, video editing software,... I always went "immersive mode" with all my previous devices but with the Galaxy s10, that's impossible except for (almost exclusively) the gallery app and YouTube.
TLDR : i wish we could get true immersive mode system wide if we wanted to.
I would like us to launch a petition that we would show Samsung via Twitter or something. English not being my native language, is also need help to write it's description in a concise way.
If enough people would mind being part of this, or helping for visibility (like push for a front page article on xda, share with the other s10, s10e, s10+, note 10 forums...) That would be great. Not only for our devices, as power users but also, for future buyers since the gs11 will most likely have the same notch as the note 10 series.
Many thanks in advance !!
note 10 plus fullscreen immersive
Thanks much for posting this. I'm up to as well to get this done. I have done the immersive on other Samsung phones, s9 plus, note 9. Believe it or not this was the main reason I went on to upgrade to the this phone with the main purpose of doing the ADB Commands and get it full immersive but little did I know this is not possible with the note 10 plus. it's a disgrace that Noone seems to care about this
What apps specifically don't work with full screen. Everything I use is full screen and if not I change the aspect ratio on the app settings and it works fine.
loverde74 said:
Thanks much for posting this. I'm up to as well to get this done. I have done the immersive on other Samsung phones, s9 plus, note 9. Believe it or not this was the main reason I went on to upgrade to the this phone with the main purpose of doing the ADB Commands and get it full immersive but little did I know this is not possible with the note 10 plus. it's a disgrace that Noone seems to care about this
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It is definitely possible.
Search for "notch" module in Magisk.
Install it and then go to Settings-Developer-Notch -> select last one, no cutout.
Now immersive mode will actually be full screen. Problem is, right padding needs adjusting, otherwise the status bar icons will sit underneath the camera.
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It's not like samsung dev hasn't thought about it. But they went in the end with the lesser devil, disable the whole notch bar.
The main problem being that apps will not know to go around the camera. Nor have dynamic paddings for icons and buttons.
So for example with immersive mode on (full screen, no black bar) on all apps. You will notice that almost every app has the three dotted button, icon in the corner, which will be hidden under the camera. Samsung QC will never officially allow this.
Perhaps that's why Note10, S20 and the others, have the camera in the middle. Using immersive mode, will not cover much important info, so we might see it in the future on those phones.
But as it stands, S10 (or any corner cutout phone) will not display apps correctly, hence there will never be an official fix.
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Pro tip: Instead of enabling system-wide immersive mode and get frustrated in some apps, I remember there was a paid app, granular immersive, or something. Which allow you to enable full screen only on some apps.
But Magisk notch module has to be installed in any case.
true2you said:
Hi dear members.
Long story short, i am fed up with the display setting that it's supposed to force fullscreen on selected apps but that does nothing 90% of the time at best. I also noticed that many people over here and reddit hoped that developpement would help bringing this to life with time.
I see that we couldn't find a sustainable solution for this, no modding, no rooting, no custom rom...
Only "app cloner" manages the result but doesn't work with many apps.
I wish we could have a developer option allowing the notch to be ignored system wide. Even if it means losing that circle portion of the display with app details being rendered behind the punch hole.
I bought into losing a small circle, not an entire portion of my screen. End result is that the screen panel is bigger than the galaxy s9 (or my previous lg v30) but in reality there is less usable screen space with this phone.
If we manage, all of our apps could take advantage of the entire screen. Too many apps are cut on top or on the side (landscape). Other 16/9 apps arend centered (fullscreen browser videos, many games, video editing software,... I always went "immersive mode" with all my previous devices but with the Galaxy s10, that's impossible except for (almost exclusively) the gallery app and YouTube.
TLDR : i wish we could get true immersive mode system wide if we wanted to.
I would like us to launch a petition that we would show Samsung via Twitter or something. English not being my native language, is also need help to write it's description in a concise way.
If enough people would mind being part of this, or helping for visibility (like push for a front page article on xda, share with the other s10, s10e, s10+, note 10 forums...) That would be great. Not only for our devices, as power users but also, for future buyers since the gs11 will most likely have the same notch as the note 10 series.
Many thanks in advance !
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TL;DR!!!
LOL jk man
if anything is going to get this done, itll have to be a device-wide system update that will be a major PITA for Samsung. I personally believe that not having this option is a literal mistake and to correct it, theyll have to admit that it was a f**k up from the get go. Im betting that "GoodLock" is going to be our best bet to get this accomplished as it is allowed root access from Samsung and its written by Samsung, so it can allow this "personal preference" that they should have built in in the first place.
Id bug the goodlock folks. Its probably your only hope
Youdoofus said:
TL;DR!!!
LOL jk man
if anything is going to get this done, itll have to be a device-wide system update that will be a major PITA for Samsung. I personally believe that not having this option is a literal mistake and to correct it, theyll have to admit that it was a f**k up from the get go. Im betting that "GoodLock" is going to be our best bet to get this accomplished as it is allowed root access from Samsung and its written by Samsung, so it can allow this "personal preference" that they should have built in in the first place.
Id bug the goodlock folks. Its probably your only hope
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Ha, the Goodlock folks cant even update their old stuff, forget anything new.
Tel864 said:
Ha, the Goodlock folks cant even update their old stuff, forget anything new.
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sad but true. goodlock is the most likely path we have to Samsung giving us access to modding stuff we will likely ever see. Im just glad that i can change my buttons on the bottom TBH, i like having a kitty butt as my back button LOL!!
Magisk meaning you need to be rooted?
a_bolog said:
It is definitely possible.
Search for "notch" module in Magisk.
Install it and then go to Settings-Developer-Notch -> select last one, no cutout.
Now immersive mode will actually be full screen. Problem is, right padding needs adjusting, otherwise the status bar icons will sit underneath the camera.
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It's not like samsung dev hasn't thought about it. But they went in the end with the lesser devil, disable the whole notch bar.
The main problem being that apps will not know to go around the camera. Nor have dynamic paddings for icons and buttons.
So for example with immersive mode on (full screen, no black bar) on all apps. You will notice that almost every app has the three dotted button, icon in the corner, which will be hidden under the camera. Samsung QC will never officially allow this.
Perhaps that's why Note10, S20 and the others, have the camera in the middle. Using immersive mode, will not cover much important info, so we might see it in the future on those phones.
But as it stands, S10 (or any corner cutout phone) will not display apps correctly, hence there will never be an official fix.
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Pro tip: Instead of enabling system-wide immersive mode and get frustrated in some apps, I remember there was a paid app, granular immersive, or something. Which allow you to enable full screen only on some apps.
But Magisk notch module has to be installed in any case.
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so magisk module meaningful I need to have my phone rooted?
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true2you said:
Hi dear members.
Long story short, i am fed up with the display setting that it's supposed to force fullscreen on selected apps but that does nothing 90% of the time at best. I also noticed that many people over here and reddit hoped that developpement would help bringing this to life with time.
I see that we couldn't find a sustainable solution for this, no modding, no rooting, no custom rom...
Only "app cloner" manages the result but doesn't work with many apps.
I wish we could have a developer option allowing the notch to be ignored system wide. Even if it means losing that circle portion of the display with app details being rendered behind the punch hole.
I bought into losing a small circle, not an entire portion of my screen. End result is that the screen panel is bigger than the galaxy s9 (or my previous lg v30) but in reality there is less usable screen space with this phone.
If we manage, all of our apps could take advantage of the entire screen. Too many apps are cut on top or on the side (landscape). Other 16/9 apps arend centered (fullscreen browser videos, many games, video editing software,... I always went "immersive mode" with all my previous devices but with the Galaxy s10, that's impossible except for (almost exclusively) the gallery app and YouTube.
TLDR : i wish we could get true immersive mode system wide if we wanted to.
I would like us to launch a petition that we would show Samsung via Twitter or something. English not being my native language, is also need help to write it's description in a concise way.
If enough people would mind being part of this, or helping for visibility (like push for a front page article on xda, share with the other s10, s10e, s10+, note 10 forums...) That would be great. Not only for our devices, as power users but also, for future buyers since the gs11 will most likely have the same notch as the note 10 series.
Many thanks in advance !!
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Is possible to achieve it Now. Download system UI tuner. Connect phone to laptop and execute adb commands to hide the navigation bar. Disconnect phone, go to galaxy store, download Good Lock, then open up the app then download multistar . Open multistar go to the last option to stretch The screen over the camera hole. Chose options to all.... Now go to system UI tuner and select hide navigation bar.... that's all
Judging by the numerous complaints of issues with the new A10 updates, it looks like OneUI with Android 10 is NOT ready to replace Android9, yet it's rolling out as OTA upgrades. I predict it won't be long before people regret this new update and want to roll back to A9. I have a U1 variant and haven't gotten a prompt to update yet. It seem like a good time to fire up adb and disable the packages that are responsible for updates.
Anybody love the new OneUI w/A10 they got on their N9 via OTA? What's good about it?
I haven't had any issues and know a few others that haven't as well, but we are a small amoint of people, so yeah.
I really don't feel a difference between Android 9 and 10 with the exception of how dark mode is implemented now. That's honestly it for me. Battery life for me on the Note 8 and 9 have always been meh, but so has every other phone for me with the small exception of the Xperia Z Ultra and LG Optimus something big. Whatever the big one was.
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I went back to Android 9 a couple days ago. To me, and this is just my opinion, 10 feels like 9 to me. And the sad thing is Samsung considers this a major update so that means the 9 will not see anymore other then security patches.
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butchieboy said:
I went back to Android 9 a couple days ago. To me, and this is just my opinion, 10 feels like 9 to me. And the sad thing is Samsung considers this a major update so that means the 9 will not see anymore other then security patches.
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Google did state that Android 10 would be a significant improvement over Android Pie. Whether that is the case or not we have yet to be certain. But it is safe to say that Android Pie for the Note 9 will not be receiving any security patches now. As Samsung will only be releasing patches for Android 10 for the Note 9 from now on.
That is what I meant. 10 patches not Pie
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On 10 and loving it. Miss a few good lock options. Battery life has been great while gaming compared to 9. I read a lot of posts here and have not run across any issues yet.
This is what I am waiting for, more news of good or bad experiences with A10. I am very happy on A9 (I have U1 variant) and I dont want to click update yet because I like it how it is. I hate that they stop security patches tho. Dark mode means squat, I have themes that work for that. I also use good lock features alot. I guess I will keep postponing the update till I see more threads about it. The silence is weird, normally there are pages of complaints after a new version comes out.
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Iv been on 10 for awhile now, and i have noticed its a little sluggish. Flashed in odin, then i performed a factory reset and it is still sluggish. Hoping for an update soon
Yeah, comparing A10 to A9 (stock) is a different comparison than OneUI A10 to OneUI A9 (Samsung's) ... and that is because one of the major differences with stock Android is that A10 finally integrated dark mode.... But Samsung did that with OneUI on A9, sooo... I have OneUI with Android 9, everything is dark, it all looks good, and I like it. Also, nothing seems buggy.
It doesn't look like there is any reason at all to upgrade to OneUI w/A10, unless I like to take my chances and see if Samsung bugged up a rushed release.
I actually really, really, hate white apps. So if OneUI with A10 integrates dark mode into apps much better than it does with A9, then I would consider the upgrade, for Google apps like gmail, maps, docs, etc.
Good points from all. It's not that Android 10 is bad, it just doesnt seem much different then Android 9. For me the gestures were horrible. I'm sure peeps like them but just not for me.
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Android 10 OTA has been great for me - getting better battery life and everything smooth and fluid. No problems whatsoever, and I just did the upgrade OTA, no clean wipe or anything like that (thankfully). Did use Galaxy Labs App Optimiser and I do believe apps open noticeably faster afterwards.
P.S. Still using navigation gestures as I was on 9 and notice little difference.
How are the gestures in 10 different from 9?
I have no buttons on my screen. Bottom right corner swipe up goes back to previous screen. Bottom middle swipe up goes to home screen. Bottom left swipe up shows all running apps.
Is OneUI/A10 different than that?
Someone can tell me how is the volume on Android 10 compared to Android 9? Is it louder or similar?
gruuvin said:
How are the gestures in 10 different from 9?
I have no buttons on my screen. Bottom right corner swipe up goes back to previous screen. Bottom middle swipe up goes to home screen. Bottom left swipe up shows all running apps.
Is OneUI/A10 different than that?
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i think you are using 3rd party launchers? because the new full gestures can only be used on samaung one ui launcher
I am in San Francisco, with unlocked US Note 9, and have not received A10 update.
Has anyone on here in the bay area received it?
If needed, point me to another thread for this question.
chacho_2me said:
i think you are using 3rd party launchers? because the new full gestures can only be used on samaung one ui launcher
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Stock full screen gestures (no buttons showing) in settings > display > navigation bar. This is built into OneUI/A9
gruuvin said:
Stock full screen gestures (no buttons showing) in settings > display > navigation bar. This is built into OneUI/A9
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so you mean to say you dont have the new full screen gestures of android 10?
bdw your fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps?
I've had A10 for a few days now, and besides one small glitch (commas and periods are doubled when I press the icons, and sometimes the space doubles also using the space bar), I've had no issues with it.
chacho_2me said:
so you mean to say you dont have the new full screen gestures of android 10?
bdw your fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps?
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I mean to say that I am running stock A9/OneUI with fullscreen gestures built into the OS (not from a third-party app), and from what people are describing about the fullscreen gestures in A10/OneUI, they are not any different. And yes, my fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps--no software buttons.
Ive found that A10 and UI2, cannot handle gestures and fullscreen mode any where near as well as A9 UI1.
Ive tried A10 twice now and both times, from a full wipe, the fullscreen/immersive mode messes up the A10 gestures. Whereas A9 can run fullscreen (no buttons, no taskbar, full immersive for all apps) and use gestures without any issue, and with just one swipe.
You try using proper fullscreen/immersive on A10 with gestures, and it takes two swipes to do anything, and Edge Panel Apps just gets ruined, as you cannot swipe open any more. There must be some conflict in Fullscreen/Immersive mode.
I use bxactions to toggle Fullscreen/Immersive from the Bixby button.
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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It is hard to believe that miui is having these many issues/bugs...only custom ROMs can save.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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I'm also having almost all problems you mentioned.
Redmi note 10 pro (sweetin)
MIUI global 12.0.6.0 stable
Bootloader locked
MIUI have sooo many bugs. I will wait for 12.0.8 update. If bugs are fixed I will wait further for 12.5 update, else will install custom rom and will say final goodbye to MIUI
crazyguyrohan said:
I'm also having almost all problems you mentioned.
Redmi note 10 pro (sweetin)
MIUI global 12.0.6.0 stable
Bootloader locked
MIUI have sooo many bugs. I will wait for 12.0.8 update. If bugs are fixed I will wait further for 12.5 update, else will install custom rom and will say final goodbye to MIUI
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I'm on sweetinpro 12.0.6.0/12.0.8.0 on Stock with locked Bootloader. It's so frustrating that they haven't fixed trivial issues in the ROM and removed fundamental features.
I'm not having any of the mentioned issues here on my redmi note 10 pro 6/128GB sweetpro, bootloader locked. I disabled MIUI optimization right of the bat, and debloated all the xiaomi crap with this tool . I was running the latest MIUI global 12.0.10 and just updated today to MIUI 12.0.13 RKFEUXM. Still no issues. Also my battery is pretty fine, more than a day and I am heavy user (and gamer)
Regarding some of the issues (I have Redmi Note 10 Pro with global MIUI 12.0.10):
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
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Touch responsivenes does behave strange and fails sometimes. I haven't noticed any stuttering though, the 730G works pretty well for me.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
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This is very annoying and definitly needs to get fixed asap. Some notificaciones are really messed up, like chat notifications that pop up showing a different person (wrong profile and name, happens on whatsapp and Telegram).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
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Mine works fine.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
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After a full day I still have 50% battery, so no problem on mine.
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
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Just tested and it worked with 1 tap.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
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Unfortunately I bet Xiaomi did this on purpose to keep Always On Display away from the low-mid end phones, just like the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
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You mean the NFC icon in control center? I mine was just not enabled. It can be enabled with the "edit" function on the control center.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
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Mine do pop up. Try disabling MIUI optimization for these apps, it's what I did.
TotallyNotAPigeon said:
Regarding some of the issues (I have Redmi Note 10 Pro with global MIUI 12.0.10):
Touch responsivenes does behave strange and fails sometimes. I haven't noticed any stuttering though, the 730G works pretty well for me.
This is very annoying and definitly needs to get fixed asap. Some notificaciones are really messed up, like chat notifications that pop up showing a different person (wrong profile and name, happens on whatsapp and Telegram).
Mine works fine.
After a full day I still have 50% battery, so no problem on mine.
Just tested and it worked with 1 tap.
Unfortunately I bet Xiaomi did this on purpose to keep Always On Display away from the low-mid end phones, just like the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
You mean the NFC icon in control center? I mine was just not enabled. It can be enabled with the "edit" function on the control center.
Mine do pop up. Try disabling MIUI optimization for these apps, it's what I did.
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Turns out, all the problems I've mentioned are specifically with the Indian version of the Global ROM. We're at 12.0.6.0/12.0.8.0, and they've also removed the option to "disable MIUI Optimazations" from the developer menu. It now requires specifically resetting developer options.
You are correct about disabling MIUI optimization. My advice is don't touch it at all, not even once. I always find that down the road weird things will happen to my phone. Perhaps some problems that you are having, were the result of disabling it, even though you've turned it back on now. If it was me, I'd go for a factory data reset and see what happens.
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You are correct about disabling MIUI optimization. My advice is don't touch it at all, not even once. I always find that down the road weird things will happen to my phone. Perhaps some problems that you are having, were the result of disabling it, even though you've turned it back on now. If it was me, I'd go for a factory data reset and see what happens.
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Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
Almost all the issues that OP stated in his post are true, it also happens to my unit which is the Indonesian unit with MIUI 12.0.4.0.
The most annoying one is the WA & Telegram notification issue, not only they messed up in order but the Action button is also misaligned. Seems like Xiaomi's dev team is not aware of this issue at all. Pretty unprofessional, however, this is what we deserved by buying a Xiaomi phone.
Due to all of these issues which I'm not confident will be solved in a timely manner by their dev team, I already made a post in my local adboard to sell my 1 week old RN 10 Pro and I will just buy the Samsung device again.
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Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
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You can turn it on after installing ytvanced. Everything is working as it should except vanced pip which I cant seem to activate in gesture navigation
Ratti1999 said:
You can turn it on after installing ytvanced. Everything is working as it should except vanced pip which I cant seem to activate in gesture navigation
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Yepp, I installed Vanced and enabled MIUI optimization ( I needed of for files uploading). Vanced is working great. I am using navigation buttons as I am not huge fan of gestures.
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Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
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For YTVanced, just go to the old versions page in the download site of vancedapp.com.
Then manually download the microg for "14.21.54 and above" and install it. MIUI will allow this version to be installed. Then I downloaded YTVanced 14.21.54 and installed and using it.
The only reason I wanted to turn off MIUI optimizations is to install YTVanced, but since this method works, I don't mind anymore.
I know MIUI "optimizations" is a real PITA, but so far there seems to be workarounds for some of the shortcomings.
Once official stable custom roms are available, I'll flash to these. Right now there are 3 custom roms available, but these are newly released. Need to wait and see if others have problems or not. Once the roms are matured enough, then will be worth to migrate.
P.S. - Using Sweet Global 8/128.
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Due to all of these issues which I'm not confident will be solved in a timely manner by their dev team, I already made a post in my local adboard to sell my 1 week old RN 10 Pro and I will just buy the Samsung device again.
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No need to take drastic measures.
Xiaomi is actually rooter-friendly. They allow official bootloader-unlocking, although the process takes long.
Their phones, especially the Redmi Note series are some of the best value phones you can ever find.
This is more true with this Note 10 Pro. I mean it's using Amoled and 120Hz screen with 8GB RAM and 128GB ROM wirh NFC, 3.5" jack, IR, FM radio and a huge battery. Even other more expensive flagships don't have all at one place. And the combination of features are only available in higher end flagships of other phones which cost so much more.
And let's not forget Samsung's notorious Knox counter. Even wirh Magisk Hide, some bank apps look for this counter and you can't use a rooted phone with bank apps and some other telco-apps. They look for this Knox-counter trips.
Xiaomi community is very active. There are already 3 custom roms available for Sweet. And there will be many to come. So you can already try these new roms and get rid of MIUI "optimizations" completely.
For me, i am waiting for the roms to get ironed out from it's new beginnings and let them mature with any fixes before I change my ROM. Need to make sure everything works properly before jumping ship.
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No need to take drastic measures.
Xiaomi is actually rooter-friendly. They allow official bootloader-unlocking, although the process takes long.
Their phones, especially the Redmi Note series are some of the best value phones you can ever find.
This is more true with this Note 10 Pro. I mean it's using Amoled and 120Hz screen with 8GB RAM and 128GB ROM wirh NFC, 3.5" jack, IR, FM radio and a huge battery. Even other more expensive flagships don't have all at one place. And the combination of features are only available in higher end flagships of other phones which cost so much more.
And let's not forget Samsung's notorious Knox counter. Even wirh Magisk Hide, some bank apps look for this counter and you can't use a rooted phone with bank apps and some other telco-apps. They look for this Knox-counter trips.
Xiaomi community is very active. There are already 3 custom roms available for Sweet. And there will be many to come. So you can already try these new roms and get rid of MIUI "optimizations" completely.
For me, i am waiting for the roms to get ironed out from it's new beginnings and let them mature with any fixes before I change my ROM. Need to make sure everything works properly before jumping ship.
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By the time I make that post a few weeks ago, my Sweet has been sold in only 1 hour since the ad went online. Currently, I'm back with the Samsung bandwagon (I bought the brand new A52 LTE) and really really happy with it With this great midrange, I did not miss anything from my previous Samsung phone, the S10.
I agree with you, Xiaomi makes good phones with unbeatable hardware specs to performance ratio, but this is the software that we will interact every day with, not the underlying hardware.
Gone are the days I spent countless hours trying every custom ROM available in our beloved XDA forums, now I just want the phone that just works without any major or annoying issue.
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Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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I wanna install third party apk it's safe from disable miui optimization and re enable it (just disable for install the apk)
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Please how can I disable MIUI optimization? I'm using Redmi note 10 pro 128/8
YTVanced is working with activated optimization on my Redmi Note 10pro SKFEUXM13.0.15.0
Bootloader locked, not rooted.