I can't be the only but has anybody noticed the phone overheating quickly with moderate gaming or even an antutu benchmark. This is without X mode. When I do the same with my K20 Pro, it doesn't overheat like the Rog Phone 2.
How are you defining overheating? The device throttling? Do you receive overheat warnings?
Just because a phone gets hot doesn't mean it's performing worse. If anything it could mean it has better heat dissipation due to better contact between cooling and cpu. I play dual screen 2 games at once for 3 hours straight and the cpu remained cool around 40C. I kept my cpu speed down because it was overkill anyway
willhemmens said:
How are you defining overheating? The device throttling? Do you receive overheat warnings?
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Can feel the heat near the upper left of the back of the phone. Temps were in 40s.
40s is not overheating at all. ROG phone has higher surface temperature than some phones but it's because it's barely throttling even after 1 hour of gaming. No need to worry
https://m.gsmarena.com/asus_rog_phone_ii_ultimate_edition-review-1984p6.php
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Can feel the heat near the upper left of the back of the phone. Temps were in 40s.
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zed011 said:
40s is not overheating at all. ROG phone has higher surface temperature than some phones but it's because it's barely throttling even after 1 hour of gaming. No need to worry
https://m.gsmarena.com/asus_rog_phone_ii_ultimate_edition-review-1984p6.php
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Exactly, it's not overheating, it's doing its job. It's moving that heat away from the internal components and to the outside of the phone via the vapor chamber, external vent, and aluminum side body section near the vent. Throw a slim case on the phone if you don't like feeling it warm in your hands, or tweak the game mode profiles to underclock the CPU and GPU and/or lower the thermal limit during games that make it heat up too much in your hand.
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Exactly, it's not overheating, it's doing its job. It's moving that heat away from the internal components and to the outside of the phone via the vapor chamber, external vent, and aluminum side body section near the vent. Throw a slim case on the phone if you don't like feeling it warm in your hands, or tweak the game mode profiles to underclock the CPU and GPU and/or lower the thermal limit during games that make it heat up too much in your hand.
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Agreed. It makes perfect sense that the t6ip left is getting warm, that's where the vent is
Rog phone 2 tencent edition overheating and shutting down
My Phone overheats and shuts down when under heavy load, or while charging while im sleaping. it first happened while playing pubg mobile and streaming my game to youtube. I can feel it gets very hot and after a while it just switches off. i also tried the antutu stress test and when it reaches 5% it switches off, i opened the armory crate to check the temps while antutu was doing the stress test and saw that my cpu reaches 73°c and then again it switches off. this is with xmode off.
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My Phone overheats and shuts down when under heavy load, or while charging while im sleaping. it first happened while playing pubg mobile and streaming my game to youtube. I can feel it gets very hot and after a while it just switches off. i also tried the antutu stress test and when it reaches 5% it switches off, i opened the armory crate to check the temps while antutu was doing the stress test and saw that my cpu reaches 73°c and then again it switches off. this is with xmode off.
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That's definitely abnormal. You should try to get a replacement or warranty repair.
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My Phone overheats and shuts down when under heavy load, or while charging while im sleaping. it first happened while playing pubg mobile and streaming my game to youtube. I can feel it gets very hot and after a while it just switches off. i also tried the antutu stress test and when it reaches 5% it switches off, i opened the armory crate to check the temps while antutu was doing the stress test and saw that my cpu reaches 73°c and then again it switches off. this is with xmode off.
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any updates. i’m having the same issue.
Same here. When I play games like ML or any games my phone overheating fast then my screen will turn off ..and another issue when I charge my phone while overheat my phone will shutdown
does anyone knows how to fix this?:crying::
I'm having the same issue. Charging overnight - it gets really hot, and sometimes it'll randomly reset. Not gaming or running much in the background. It happened since the last update prior to the most recent
Keep in mind that Rog phone 2 has a SnapDragon 855+ and + means it's overclocked. While other normal phones out there runs on default speed settings. So that's probably why Rog phone 2 can get hot quickly due to it's overclocking.
Mine gets very hot along the edges. In fact it gets so hot along the edges that it burns my fingers. CPU temp doesn't ever go much above 45 but the sides become untouchable... Is this a feature designed to stop you playing and thus save the phone from melting in your hands? ??
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Mine gets very hot along the edges. In fact it gets so hot along the edges that it burns my fingers. CPU temp doesn't ever go much above 45 but the sides become untouchable... Is this a feature designed to stop you playing and thus save the phone from melting in your hands? ??
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I had this problem on Android 10, but the problem was reduced when downgrading back to Android 9.
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I had this problem on Android 10, but the problem was reduced when downgrading back to Android 9.
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Yep android is a dealbreaker. Extreme overheating cause of the software.
After long time and intensive research, I found the real problem which is cpu/gpu refusing to throttle while on load. Usually the system reduces the clock speed of the cpu to keep the temperature between acceptable working range (room temperature - max of 60°c)
If cpu doesn't throttle, the cpu temperature rises until it reaches the max (i.e 65°C which is critical temperature as per A10s updated thermal framework) and shuts down the device.
I found a workaround which involves reducing manually the clock speed as the temperature increases.
But it requires tasker app(paid) and root to work.
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When I bought Xperia T, after a while, I started to be a little disappointed with performance, autobrightness, discharging when playing, etc.
After some digging deeper into this problem, I have found, that cpu is throttled by temperature. And not only the cpu.
A few minutes of playing game, cpu goes to 800MHz, display brightness goes to level 100 (max. is 255), wall charger current is reduced (even when connected, it is discharging), radio power is reduced, etc.
Change it yourself:
Example:
xo_therm 14 -1000 380 20 NOTIFY CAM_NORMAL cpu_perflevel:1728000 charge_current_limit:0 usb_current_limit:1 modem_level0 lcd_brightnesslevel:240
xo_therm 14 = sensor step
-1000 = -100,0°C
380 = 38,0°C
20 = don't know (maybe some kind of sample rate?)
NOTIFY CAM_NORMAL = obvious (camera)
cpu_perflevel:1728000 = cpu frequency
charge_current_limit:0 = obvious (0 is 1300mA I think, 1 is 1100mA, 2 is 900mA, etc.)
usb_current_limit:1 = obvious (has impact on charging too)
modem_level0 = power of modem
lcd_brightnesslevel:240 = obvious (0 - 255)
Set the highest temperatures, with low enough frequencies and charging current values, to let phone cool down.
"gpu_perflevel" can be used too and there are some other thermal sensors in sysmon.cfg, which are also responsible for thermal throttling.
Disclaimer:
Each device is different and I am not responsible, if your device burns with some values from here.
Both CPU cores always on:
Echo 1 in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online and change permissions to 444. And if you want to prevent errors from log (and maybe some unwanted wake locks), rename /system/bin/mpdecision to something else or delete it.
what is temp at what cpu throttles (and other things)?
seems it is lower than other devices, something like 40C, i think my sgs3s was at 76C or similar.. not sure, will check later.
sgs3 was a very hot phone.
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You can see the temperatures in sysmon.cfg - xo_therm 400 500 = 40 - 50°C for example. Cpu temperature, not battery. There is no tool to monitor cpu temperature, but if you set your own frequencies, you can see with Cool Tool, how long it takes to the lowest frequency.
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You can see the temperatures in sysmon.cfg - xo_therm 400 500 = 40 - 50°C for example. Cpu temperature, not battery. There is no tool to monitor cpu temperature, but if you set your own frequencies, you can see with Cool Tool, how long it takes to the lowest frequency.
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thanks, will check. i am on cm10 and didn't notice throttling yet, but i will check now as it is ****ty if so.
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I have noticed the throttling but it doesn't affect the performance in my case, playing games and watching HD video are fine, just annoying when the screen suddenly does dim.
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@OP:
If you don't want throttling, uninstall Androids inbuilt Thermal monitor(No need to tell you the risk by doing that I guess).
Thanks for you valuable advice.
Don't think it would help as that file says 2nd core off values are hardcoded
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I think, that it works, because I tested it and I am using my own values.
Good thing I won't be playing games when my T will arrive
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Still? Damn how long do they take ? -.-
Here is the .apk of the old version. No idea how much works and what doesn't!
Hello,
Could it be some kind of default on your device ? or maybe the application ?
Cause I remember Qualcomm's communicating on their S4 being "cooler" than its opponents when under heavy load.
Can someone else confirm ?
What's strange is that the game you mention (Osmos HD, which I bought some time ago for my TF101) does not even use super high end 3D graphics etc etc ... maybe the perf drop could come much quicker with some cpu/gpu intensive apps.
If confirmed, it might even become a big "no go" on this phone for me.
Nickola
nickola said:
Hello,
Could it be some kind of default on your device ? or maybe the application ?
Cause I remember Qualcomm's communicating on their S4 being "cooler" than its opponents when under heavy load.
Can someone else confirm ?
What's strange is that the game you mention (Osmos HD, which I bought some time ago for my TF101) does not even use super high end 3D graphics etc etc ... maybe the perf drop could come much quicker with some cpu/gpu intensive apps.
If confirmed, it might even become a big "no go" on this phone for me.
Nickola
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I've had this phone for a while now and I haven't had a bit of lag while playing any game I have. Everything seems fine except the sudden dimming of the screen when playing games. Don't let this put you off buying the phone, its a great phone
Edit: been playing Osmos HD for at least 25 minutes, I'm experiencing no such lag or performance issue. Only the dimming issue I seem to get.
Well, after some more investigation, I have found, that lags in Osmos HD are not caused by cpu throttling, but wifi disconnecting.
Playing the game is fine, but still, with default settings the temperature is going high and except the screen dimming, cpu goes to 800MHz, (1 core disabled on highest temperature), and phone is discharging even when connected to wall charger.
It seems to me, that the overheating is not caused that much by cpu, but gpu. It would be nice, if it could be tested somehow by lowering the frequency of gpu.
I wonder if the heating issues could be fixed with software patches. Given Sony's desire to incorporate playstation stuff, I find it hard to believe there is some sort of hardware issue.
Wish we could get some more samples to work with.
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Just measured with my settings (in the room - about 23°C):
10 minutes of playing Osmos HD without charging = 62°C CPU temp
With one core running on 1350 MHz and LCD brightness value 150, it's not increasing anymore.
When charging, the temperature will go higher. I will test it too.
peetr_ said:
Just measured with my settings (in the room - about 23°C):
10 minutes of playing Osmos HD without charging = 62°C CPU temp
With one core running on 1350 MHz and LCD brightness value 150, it's not increasing anymore.
When charging, the temperature will go higher. I will test it too.
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Have you tried treppn profiler?
Anandtech says a CPU core draws around 450-750mW while gpu goes 800-1200mW!
Seems like 400mhz is a hard Task for an 225.
If you are still on ics maybe try jellybean? Perhaps project butter may more efficiently handle the gpu.
Maybe even make a list of "stress test" for people to try and see what the various results are.
If all else fails try undervolting the gpu and cpu.
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Haldi4803 said:
Have you tried treppn profiler?
Anandtech says a CPU core draws around 450-750mW while gpu goes 800-1200mW!
Seems like 400mhz is a hard Task for an 225.
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Yes, I tried trpn profiler provided by you, but there are limited options.
It looks like the GPU cannot handle this frequency.
Undervolting won't help anything, but lowering GPU frequency would help I guess. But this cannot be done without custom kernel, allowing this.
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I've had this phone for a while now and I haven't had a bit of lag while playing any game I have. Everything seems fine except the sudden dimming of the screen when playing games. Don't let this put you off buying the phone, its a great phone
Edit: been playing Osmos HD for at least 25 minutes, I'm experiencing no such lag or performance issue. Only the dimming issue I seem to get.
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Same here. I've been playing Speedball 2 and GTA3 mainly but I have played a few others too and haven't experienced any lag and no performance issues observed at all.
so i've been playing Injsutice: Gods Among Us with mobile data (for me to logged on and to access daily challenges), after 20-30 mins of playing, the game started to drop its framerate and i felt the phone is hot. I exited the game and i accidentally press the camera icon, to my surprise, the camera says something like, 'You can not use the Camera due to high temperatere...."
so i installed elixir and cpu-z for me to know the temperature, after several hours, i tried again to play Injustice with mobile data off, the phone became hot after 40minutes of game play and it has a fluid framerate and the camera works fine. the temperature was around 47C.
i cooled down the phone, and played with mobile data on, after 20mins the game drops it's framerate and the camera is not working again. it has a temperature of 49.6C
the question is:
- i know playing hd graphics keeps the phone hot, but is it normal to all z1 users especially when it's already forcing the CPU/GPU to lower its performance and prevent the camera from being used?
- do i have the right to get a replacement for the phone?
- have you also experienced this when gaming? especially online?
note:
- i'm running a rooted, locked bootloader, firmware .136
- underclocked at 1.75GHz
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so i've been playing Injsutice: Gods Among Us with mobile data (for me to logged on and to access daily challenges), after 20-30 mins of playing, the game started to drop its framerate and i felt the phone is hot. I exited the game and i accidentally press the camera icon, to my surprise, the camera says something like, 'You can not use the Camera due to high temperatere...."
so i installed elixir and cpu-z for me to know the temperature, after several hours, i tried again to play Injustice with mobile data off, the phone became hot after 40minutes of game play and it has a fluid framerate and the camera works fine. the temperature was around 47C.
i cooled down the phone, and played with mobile data on, after 20mins the game drops it's framerate and the camera is not working again. it has a temperature of 49.6C
the question is:
- i know playing hd graphics keeps the phone hot, but is it normal to all z1 users especially when it's already forcing the CPU/GPU to lower its performance and prevent the camera from being used?
- do i have the right to get a replacement for the phone?
- have you also experienced this when gaming? especially online?
note:
- i'm running a rooted, locked bootloader, firmware .136
- underclocked at 1.75GHz
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Try to record you problem and ask for a replacement, this is not a normal behavior....
tnx for your opinion, i think i need to read more about z1 overheating issues
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zhane0513 said:
so i've been playing Injsutice: Gods Among Us with mobile data (for me to logged on and to access daily challenges), after 20-30 mins of playing, the game started to drop its framerate and i felt the phone is hot. I exited the game and i accidentally press the camera icon, to my surprise, the camera says something like, 'You can not use the Camera due to high temperatere...."
so i installed elixir and cpu-z for me to know the temperature, after several hours, i tried again to play Injustice with mobile data off, the phone became hot after 40minutes of game play and it has a fluid framerate and the camera works fine. the temperature was around 47C.
i cooled down the phone, and played with mobile data on, after 20mins the game drops it's framerate and the camera is not working again. it has a temperature of 49.6C
the question is:
- i know playing hd graphics keeps the phone hot, but is it normal to all z1 users especially when it's already forcing the CPU/GPU to lower its performance and prevent the camera from being used?
- do i have the right to get a replacement for the phone?
- have you also experienced this when gaming? especially online?
note:
- i'm running a rooted, locked bootloader, firmware .136
- underclocked at 1.75GHz
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QuadCore running for several minutes means heat generally.
But beside what phone exactly do to control heat the apps u use are important too.
for example famous angry birds make my phone hot! But Fifa-14 doesn't!
under-clocking doesn't mean certainly u won't get battery draining or heat issue
it needs also compatible kernel
anyway heat issue is not always because of hardware cause there s also heat-controller (or sth like this) inside firmware that can working not so good and u should repair ur phone by PCC
to be sure if it s hardware problem and ask for replacement, first completely restock it.
zhane0513 said:
so i've been playing Injsutice: Gods Among Us with mobile data (for me to logged on and to access daily challenges), after 20-30 mins of playing, the game started to drop its framerate and i felt the phone is hot. I exited the game and i accidentally press the camera icon, to my surprise, the camera says something like, 'You can not use the Camera due to high temperatere...."
so i installed elixir and cpu-z for me to know the temperature, after several hours, i tried again to play Injustice with mobile data off, the phone became hot after 40minutes of game play and it has a fluid framerate and the camera works fine. the temperature was around 47C.
i cooled down the phone, and played with mobile data on, after 20mins the game drops it's framerate and the camera is not working again. it has a temperature of 49.6C
the question is:
- i know playing hd graphics keeps the phone hot, but is it normal to all z1 users especially when it's already forcing the CPU/GPU to lower its performance and prevent the camera from being used?
- do i have the right to get a replacement for the phone?
- have you also experienced this when gaming? especially online?
note:
- i'm running a rooted, locked bootloader, firmware .136
- underclocked at 1.75GHz
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try underclocking your cpu to 900mhz you'll notice no slowdowns in game but the phone will still overheat, that is because the GPU is causing the overheat and is the one struggling in games, not the monstreous CPU in the z1. you can try flashing doom kernel or AOSP kernel by android.fr to underclock your GPU.
The phone will get hot anyway, doesn't take much, but playing a hd game will cook the bugger. Never play when plugged in if you are, put your apps on a diet and get rid of anything that you can do without, lightening your load will help a lot. Personally I wouldn't consider it a problem unless its affecting gameplay. The drop in frame rate is the CPU clocking down to protect it, which is a good thing and quite normal. So you have a case on your phone? Try it without If you do. If the phone begins to shut itself down then that's a worry and you should certainly look for a replacement.
Hope this helps.
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hi
What is the normal device temperature that you see.. I m not talking abt the battery temperature.. I am talking about the device temperature ...
I am checking the device temperature using the cpu temp app
The normal temperature that I noticed when I got up in the morning was 32c
It is with wifi ON and brightness set to auto and normal 2g
after some minor use the temp now is 40-45c
If I do a 4k recording for 2 minutes.. It becomes really hot and temp goes to 70c
If I play a game the temp goes to 55-60c
While running antutu benchmark it restartEd once... He temp was around 65 for some time
while charging the temp is around 50c?
The device screen really feels hot , even more then the leather back
So are these things normal?
Or is this some hardware problems
I have already checked the battery stats and don't see anything unusual hogging the battery
I have not installed any apps.. Just the ones for speedtest, antutu, cup temp etc
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Anyone... Any replies... At least the average device temperature
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Ran antuntu and it capped at about 62C. Chill and uninstall the temp apps and use your phone normally.
thanks for the reply.. also can you check the temp while shooting at 4K for couple of minutes?
There is no such normal device temp. The device temp depends on the battery temp. If its between 10-15° c above the battery temp. Then its pretty normal in running conditions ... If the battery temperature rises then automatically the device temp will rise ... In most of the devices its between 40-45°c .. The normal device temp. And 1 more thing the device temp also depends on the type of ui u r using
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You just said there is no normal, but the normal is 40-45°. It also depends on the temperature of your surroundings. I love in southern California and have to mount my phone in front of my air conditioning because our summers were up to 44c this year. I once had my Nexus 5 shut off from heat when it wasn't in front of the air.
Anyways. You're fine buddy, processors throttle at a certain temp and also shut down automatically around 75-80C.
So I've been hearing that people are experiencing unexpected shutdowns to their ROG Phone 2. It happens to me when I'm gaming or doing something intensive like benchmarking. Weird thing is that I have the Tencent edition (8GB, 128GB), and it worked absolutely fine for the first year on Android 9 and 10. However around this start of this year, it unexpectedly shuts down on its own after gaming for the first 5 minutes. I thought it was some weird glitch/bug but it occurred frequently, so I reverted back to Android 9, or even threw a custom firmware, and it still shuts down on its own.
Turns out that Armory Crate says that the system temps are at a cool 34°C, GPU at 50°C, but the CPU is at a whopping 70°C!! Whenever it hits 70 or close, it just shuts the phone down entirely, and the device itself doesn't even feel like it's burning in my hands at all!
Could it be the hardware is being faulty? Or the thermals are incredibly bad? I don't even have the cooling fan, tho I ain't sure if that'll make a difference. Note that it was just working fine for the first year. I'm not entirely sure what's up, but generally it would thermal throttle and lower the clock speeds (I'm not even using X-mode!), but I just get a full shutdown. Does anybody else experience a similar problem or unexpected shutdowns in general?
(It is not always running at 2.96 GHz! It just happens to spike up to that when I took a screenshot haha)
Some people claim that the thermal paste might be old and the cooling is getting worse. I noticed it myself on my ROG 2. Play a lot of pubg, when the phone reached 43 degrees C, it would shut down.
What fixed it for me:
1. Use the standard armory crate profile on level 3 (It will shut down more often if I use the custom pubg profiles)
2. Buy a cooling fan, like black shark cooler. I have a wish cooler but it works, phone is around 37-38 degrees even in long gaming sessions.
No shut downs or problems since
A month ago or so, i had this random period of time where perfZ started to show "-" for temperature ( i assume its gpu temperature because it doesnt match with battery or cpu temp from another app) and my phone was heating up much more in games but so was the performance was way better.
Normally after thermal throttling kicks in and device reaches heat equilibrium, my battery would sit around 38-39C, cpu at 42-43C. But in that time period where it showed "-", my equilibrium was battery sitting at 44C, cpu at 47-48C. Phone was considerably hotter to touch but you could still game on it. And performance was way better, it would fall to 50fps min instead of 40fps, which is very noticable. (Dont have exact numbers maybe a bit better)
Idk how this happened as it randomly happened one day but does anyone know how to make this work? My device isnt rooted. (s10+ exy)
(Small note: Using game plugins at max performance or custom doesnt help, maybe they arent optimised for dead by daylight, because thats the only game i play)