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I wasn't really able to find any info online about the Verizon moto x being unlocked. IIRC all Verizon 4G LTE phones come Sim unlocked. Is anyone able to verify? I'm thinking of picking up a new in box Verizon moto x for 250. I just wanted to see if they come Sim unlocked so I could use it on T-Mobile.
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sRs DoLLaR mEnU said:
I wasn't really able to find any info online about the Verizon moto x being unlocked. IIRC all Verizon 4G LTE phones come Sim unlocked. Is anyone able to verify? I'm thinking of picking up a new in box Verizon moto x for 250. I just wanted to see if they come Sim unlocked so I could use it on T-Mobile.
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yes it is sim unlocked. i swapped my mom's att sim card into it no problem.
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yes it is sim unlocked. i swapped my mom's att sim card into it no problem.
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Does it work with T-Mobile LTE?
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biggiestuff said:
Does it work with T-Mobile LTE?
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uhh... something about the LTE bands.. better double check the specs of TMO LTE bands vs VZW LTE bands... you might need too manually enter in the APN info and stuff. there's another thread floating around here regarding that iirc.
sRs DoLLaR mEnU said:
I wasn't really able to find any info online about the Verizon moto x being unlocked. IIRC all Verizon 4G LTE phones come Sim unlocked. Is anyone able to verify? I'm thinking of picking up a new in box Verizon moto x for 250. I just wanted to see if they come Sim unlocked so I could use it on T-Mobile.
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I put a T-mobile SIM in my stock 16GB Verizon Moto x. Here is what works and doesn't.
First off, 4G works! in the South Jersey area and it is Blistering fast, I have exceeded 40MB speed test downloads twice, Several in the high 30s and I am avg in mid 20s. Uploads are averaging 20+/- . Compared to Verizon this is like comparing Fios to 1999 era dial up. the best I ever got on Verizon 4G was 14 download but average between 4 and 9 !
The Network notification switches a lot between 4G, "H" mode, whatever that is, just bars and another which I didn't catch quick enough to read ?
Battery has been amazing compared to my galaxy Nexus, I got 7.5 hours of Actual "Screen on Time" which included some GPS use and an hour of music streaming total phone up time was 34+ hours. How long it will perform like this is anyone's guess, today i got about 6.5 of Screen on time. I hope this inst a trend
Now for the bad news - Using it as a Phone. Incoming calls are fine but, making outgoing is a Pain in the A$$.
When I dial a number, (which is a hassle on this KitKat dialer) it often goes to the home screen or back to the dialer. The Call Fails. I am not sure if my dialer is buggy or its a compatibility problem. the KitKat Dialer on the Moto X is an exorcise in futility. Google are you listening? Why reinvent the wheel. All I want in my Dialer is a Number Pad! and a phone book.
When I Open dialer I see Recent calls up top, the whole middle section says all contacts and is otherwise blank, the bottom has the number pad icon, History and settings dots.
Clicking the number pad icon enlarges the bottom section, which then goes all white and removes the three icons. I have to then click the back arrow and re-click the number pad icon to bring it up the actual dialer. .
At this time I can dial. and then the call always fails on the first attempt. Sometimes it takes several attempts to go through.
When I click send on the dialer the 4G disappears and I am left with just the bars. they come back when call is done but sometimes take a few minutes to do so.
If you Kill the dialer app or swipe it away, coming back to it you will have the same issues when trying to get the number pad (two attempts) if you dont, the number pad will open on first attempt. but the calls will still fail on the first try.
I also cant use the internet when in a call, whether WiFi is on or off. Is this a T-mobile problem? I could use the net in Verizon when in a call when on 4G or WiFi
The Data is set to global mode but I have tried both the other settings. On boot up I get a warning saying the SIM is not recognized which I just swipe away.
I am also having this problem. After making a call, the music player and the phones "volume" aspects cease to work., Meaning, I get no sound out of the phone, Music, notifications alarms etc.. This happens almost every time and the only fix is a reboot
I disabled all Verizon Bloat and a lot of Moto Bloat as well This could be causing some of the bugs? But i have tested several different configurations all with the same outcomes.
Hope this helps and puts an end to the - Will it work or not questions. There seem to be a lot of Net Know it all's that flat out say a Verizon Moto x wont work with a T-Mobile SIM or some other undocumented "fact"
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Is moto x from ATaT sim locked?Thanks
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Is moto x from ATaT sim locked?Thanks
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Yes it is SIM Locked. But from what I've read you can buy the unlock code online if ATT wont give it to you.
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Does it work with T-Mobile LTE?
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IN areas where T-Mobile had deployed LTE on Band 4, yes.
You'll also want to take a look at this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 especially posts #14 and on..
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Does it work with T-Mobile LTE?
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From what I've researched the Verizon Moto X do not support T-Mobile LTE Band 4. Confirmed from Wikipedia and Motorola: http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html, and GSMArena: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php, it only support Band 13.
I have the Verizon Moto X and I can succesfully connect to T-Mobile's LTE without any modifications at all but somethings up with the 4.4 rom or radio... when connected to LTE, i cant send SMS messages and when i dial out, the phone totally disconnects (like turning airplane mode on and off) and then u gotta dialout AGAIN before your phone connects to LTE (while it has no data or on E/H)...
there is a work around in this xda thread: > Motorola Droid Ultra > Droid Ultra General > 4.4 and Non-VZW carriers
you have to sacrifice LTE, just hope this gets fixed in the next update (4.4.2?)
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From what I've researched the Verizon Moto X do not support T-Mobile LTE Band 4. Confirmed from Wikipedia and Motorola: http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html, and GSMArena: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php, it only support Band 13.
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I wouldn't trust Wikipedia 100% because its updated by "users" who may not have all the information.
I have the Verizon Moto X too. I can confirm it DOES support LTE Band 4. And I have gotten LTE on my X when I've inserted my T-Mobile USA SIM. I've also received HSPA+. The Verizon Wireless web site listing for the X also now says "LTE B13/4 700/1700" under specs.
As ozzyGEEK mentions there is a slight problem with the X and a work around is needed. There is discussion in another thread here on XDA with the details. I shared this link already -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 start around post #14 of that thread for details and work around.
Initially the VZW X did only support LTE Band 13. It appears Band 4 support was added with KitKat. So its possible Wikipedia and Moto's sites haven't been updated yet.
Adding Band 4 support via Rom/Radio update isn't new for Verizon. They did it for the Galaxy S4 as well. (it initially shipped with only LTE Band 13 support, and Band 4 was added later). Oh, and yes, with my T-Mobile SIM in my VZW S4, I get LTE too. I haven't checked to see if it has the same bug as the X that ozzyGEEK mentioned.
I have a note 5 originally from us cellular and want to use it with sprint. Online activation failed and sprint tech support literally hung up on me when I called to see if it's possible. So. Can I use a note 5 originally from us cellular with sprint?
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I have a note 5 originally from us cellular and want to use it with sprint. Online activation failed and sprint tech support literally hung up on me when I called to see if it's possible. So. Can I use a note 5 originally from us cellular with sprint?
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No help?
Interested in buying this phone. Has anyone used the phone on att? Being that the phone doesn't have band 14 or 30 I'm wondering if anyone has had any issues. I'd appreciate any input.
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Interested in buying this phone. Has anyone used the phone on att? Being that the phone doesn't have band 14 or 30 I'm wondering if anyone has had any issues. I'd appreciate any input.
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So far so good and I am on WW 1906 that it came shipped with, plan to upgrade to higher tomorrow.
Edit. See next post
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So far so good and I am on WW 1906 that it came shipped with, plan to upgrade to higher tomorrow.
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No problem getting LTE to work properly? I was reading elsewhere that someone was having issues getting LTE and was only able to get h and h+.
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No problem getting LTE to work properly? I was reading elsewhere that someone was having issues getting LTE and was only able to get h and h+.
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Totally depends on your location. Some places rely on bands 14 and 30 and others don't. Try to check what bands your current phone is using by downloading an app like LTE Discovery.
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No problem getting LTE to work properly? I was reading elsewhere that someone was having issues getting LTE and was only able to get h and h+.
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All I am saying is I called many people and talking and connnectivity was fine, and used my ROG Phone as I normally would and had no issue. I did have the error when trying to do record video, but I am still on WW 1906, so need to get that upgraded soon.
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So far so good and I am on WW 1906 that it came shipped with, plan to upgrade to higher tomorrow.
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Does VOLTE work with AT&T, when on a call what does it say?
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Does VOLTE work with AT&T, when on a call what does it say?
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Many sources have said VOLTE does not work.
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Many sources have said VOLTE does not work.
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Thanks, when on a call what does the network indicator say?
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Many sources have said VOLTE does not work.
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I found this, hope it might help?
https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung/A...ice-for-samsung-unlocked-devices/td-p/5906625
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Thanks, when on a call what does the network indicator say?
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I found this, hope it might help?
https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung/A...ice-for-samsung-unlocked-devices/td-p/5906625
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The rog2 has volte DISABLED for the US.
I have AT&T and the reception is better than my previous Google Pixel 3 XL. With the Pixel 3 XL I had to use WiFi calling while at work or my calls would not go through or drop constantly as I am on the 49th floor of our building if I didn't have VoWiFi enabled. No WiFi calling on the ASUS ROG Phone 2, but have had no issues with calls or texts coming through thanks to the superior reception. LTE reception is great as well. There is no VoLTE or VoWiFi on the ASUS ROG Phone 2 on AT&T, which really worried me originally, but have proven to be a non-issue so far. If this phone had the same recption as my Google Pixel 3 XL and did not have VoWiFi, it would have had to be shipped back since I need to be able to get calls at work.
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No problem getting LTE to work properly? I was reading elsewhere that someone was having issues getting LTE and was only able to get h and h+.
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I initially received a Tencent version and I got LTE on B4 and 5 in various spots in upstate NY but H+ everywhere else. I knew something was up when it showed up in a small OEM box which did not include the extra goodies like the fan and frame case. This one only came with a thin clear snap style case. Returned the phone because it did not have the bands such as B12 or 17 which are essential in my location. Waiting on elite version supposedly with these bands due to be delivered today. Fingers crossed because i really liked this phone.
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I initially received a Tencent version and I got LTE on B4 and 5 in various spots in upstate NY but H+ everywhere else. I knew something was up when it showed up in a small OEM box which did not include the extra goodies like the fan and frame case. This one only came with a thin clear snap style case. Returned the phone because it did not have the bands such as B12 or 17 which are essential in my location. Waiting on elite version supposedly with these bands due to be delivered today. Fingers crossed because i really liked this phone.
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Keep us posted when you get the new version. Interested in seeing how the phone does without band 30
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Keep us posted when you get the new version. Interested in seeing how the phone does without band 30
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Will do, My guess as far as lacking Band 30 It will switch over to H+. If this is the case for me I can live with that I'm pretty sure. I rarely see my AT&T LTE signal jump over to that band unless I'm out in the boon docks a little ways.
Also: I will def. check which bands it is comes preset to (*#*#4636#*#*) as my Tencent version kept wanting to swap to some funky setting and I would have to manually reset back to LTE/UMTS auto (PRL) in the settings menu.
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No problem getting LTE to work properly? I was reading elsewhere that someone was having issues getting LTE and was only able to get h and h+.
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Found this on an Amazon review...
http://puu.sh/EpUjM/11e6248ab4.png
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Found this on an Amazon review...
http://puu.sh/EpUjM/11e6248ab4.png
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That's very interesting. I'd buy the phone today if VOLTE worked on att. But everything I've read says it doesn't.
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That's very interesting. I'd buy the phone today if VOLTE worked on att. But everything I've read says it doesn't.
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Ya it turns out it was working on T-mobile, my bad.
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Ya it turns out it was working on T-mobile, my bad.
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Not likely, I've had the phone over two weeks now with Tmobile. No VOLTE.
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I initially received a Tencent version and I got LTE on B4 and 5 in various spots in upstate NY but H+ everywhere else. I knew something was up when it showed up in a small OEM box which did not include the extra goodies like the fan and frame case. This one only came with a thin clear snap style case. Returned the phone because it did not have the bands such as B12 or 17 which are essential in my location. Waiting on elite version supposedly with these bands due to be delivered today. Fingers crossed because i really liked this phone.
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Any update with your new phone? How's it working?
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It works great no complaints I get great LTE signals have not had one issue with the phone. Also this version of the phone came with an air cooler case and all sorts of other goodies
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Oh and I almost forgot battery life is awesome very impressed with that.
Pixel 2 owner here, and one of the things the P2 lacked was the ability to enable WiFi calling.
My house is unfortunately a deadspot for my carrier, however they all support WiFi calling where it uses my WiFi to provide me with my network access
Does anyone know off the pixel 4 supports this?
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Pixel 2 owner here, and one of the things the P2 lacked was the ability to enable WiFi calling.
My house is unfortunately a deadspot for my carrier, however they all support WiFi calling where it uses my WiFi to provide me with my network access
Does anyone know off the pixel 4 supports this?
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Pixel 2 has wifi calling. I had no issues with tmobile
Oh ok. Must just be my carrier that doesn't support it for the pixel 2(Three)
WiFi Calling works on FI with my 2X. I too rely on it when I I'm home.
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WiFi calling works with FI on 4XL
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Oh ok. Must just be my carrier that doesn't support it for the pixel 2(Three)
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I am on three too, I had WiFi calling enabled on my P3XL and it also works on my P4XL if that helps you.
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I am on three too, I had WiFi calling enabled on my P3XL and it also works on my P4XL if that helps you.
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Did you buy them from Three?
Out of interest, if you went on Three via contract, what deal did they give you?
Evostance said:
Did you buy them from Three?
Out of interest, if you went on Three via contract, what deal did they give you?
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I buy my phone's outright from Google play store and sell my old devices on eBay. One year I bought a pixel from CPW but they are annoying with the warranty process, so went back to Google.
I also have a sim only deal on three, right now I'm on the unlimited data/texts/calls plan for 24 months. £10 first 6 months and £20 last 18 months of the contract. It averages out to £17.50 a month. Before this I was just on a rolling monthly for £23 a month everything unlimited.
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I buy my phone's outright from Google play store and sell my old devices on eBay. One year I bought a pixel from CPW but they are annoying with the warranty process, so went back to Google.
I also have a sim only deal on three, right now I'm on the unlimited data/texts/calls plan for 24 months. £10 first 6 months and £20 last 18 months of the contract. It averages out to £17.50 a month. Before this I was just on a rolling monthly for £23 a month everything unlimited.
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Hmm, i think because 3 never actually sold the 2, they dont support WiFi calling on it. They sold the 3 and 4, hence why its supported
Evostance said:
Pixel 2 owner here, and one of the things the P2 lacked was the ability to enable WiFi calling.
My house is unfortunately a deadspot for my carrier, however they all support WiFi calling where it uses my WiFi to provide me with my network access
Does anyone know off the pixel 4 supports this?
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WiFi Callilng works on ATT on Pixel 4 XL. Just thought I would let you know.
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Hmm, i think because 3 never actually sold the 2, they dont support WiFi calling on it. They sold the 3 and 4, hence why its supported
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That is probably exactly it. I am enjoying my P4XL, recommended if you are thinking about it
Well I use Total Wireless that's on Verizon's network and I can't find anywhere to turn on Wifi-Calling.
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I'm on ATT.
For both the Pixel 3XL (since release) and now the 4 XL, wifi calling has worked without any issues.
Crazypinoy9 said:
I'm on ATT.
For both the Pixel 3XL (since release) and now the 4 XL, wifi calling has worked without any issues.
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Yours ATT branded?
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Yours ATT branded?
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I know you weren't talking to me, but I have a unlocked 3xl on ATT and wifi calling has always worked. Can't speak on the 4xl as mine is currently a ATT version so obviously wifi calling is working as it should.
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I know you weren't talking to me, but I have a unlocked 3xl on ATT and wifi calling has always worked. Can't speak on the 4xl as mine is currently a ATT version so obviously wifi calling is working as it should.
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Well, any Verizon users getting their Wifi-Calling working?
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Well, any Verizon users getting their Wifi-Calling working?
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I dont see the option to enable it, anyone else?
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I dont see the option to enable it, anyone else?
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Did you have the Verizon Pixel 4 model, or Google Direct unlocked?
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Did you have the Verizon Pixel 4 model, or Google Direct unlocked?
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Google direct unlocked... Also noticed like my LG V30 I don't get texts or internet while on a call.
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Google direct unlocked... Also noticed like my LG V30 I don't get texts or internet while on a call.
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Well, we can probably flash the Verizon firmware once it gets released. That's what I want to try next.
Pretty much like the title states.
I have a T-Mobile Pixel 4 XL that currently has both AT&T and T-Mobile service on it. Rather than paying for two carriers, I'd like to just get Verizon as it seems to work everywhere here. T-Mobile is spotty as hell but the data is WAY faster than my AT&T.
I tested a friends Verizon SIM and did some speed tests but I forgot to test Wi-Fi calling which I will need inside my work building. That works on T-Mobile just fine but I can't get it working on AT&T. I see you can bug AT&T but no since if I just go Verizon anyway.
Thanks!
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Pretty much like the title states.
I have a T-Mobile Pixel 4 XL that currently has both AT&T and T-Mobile service on it. Rather than paying for two carriers, I'd like to just get Verizon as it seems to work everywhere here. T-Mobile is spotty as hell but the data is WAY faster than my AT&T.
I tested a friends Verizon SIM and did some speed tests but I forgot to test Wi-Fi calling which I will need inside my work building. That works on T-Mobile just fine but I can't get it working on AT&T. I see you can bug AT&T but no since if I just go Verizon anyway.
Thanks!
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The TMO pixel 4 runs the same firmware as an unlocked phone bought straight from Google. If Verizon offers wifi calling on their plans you should have no issues.
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The TMO pixel 4 runs the same firmware as an unlocked phone bought straight from Google. If Verizon offers wifi calling on their plans you should have no issues.
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WELL you would think but have you seen the AT&T thread about Wi-Fi calling on the unlocked Pixel 4 XL? GOOD LORD!
SO it seems AT&T blocks Wi-Fi calling on devices not *sold* by them so people are spending hours on the phone arguing with them and spoofing IMEI's to get it working. Some people are getting it done, others are sitting a wall and AT&T won't help.
Just wondering if Verizon pulls the same crap.
The AT&T thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/help/att-wifi-calling-unlocked-4-xl-t3991909
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WELL you would think but have you seen the AT&T thread about Wi-Fi calling on the unlocked Pixel 4 XL? GOOD LORD!
SO it seems AT&T blocks Wi-Fi calling on devices not *sold* by them so people are spending hours on the phone arguing with them and spoofing IMEI's to get it working. Some people are getting it done, others are sitting a wall and AT&T won't help.
Just wondering if Verizon pulls the same crap.
The AT&T thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/help/att-wifi-calling-unlocked-4-xl-t3991909
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Oh wow. Sucks to be with ATT lol. Hopefully Verizon isn't a PITA for ya.
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WELL you would think but have you seen the AT&T thread about Wi-Fi calling on the unlocked Pixel 4 XL? GOOD LORD!
SO it seems AT&T blocks Wi-Fi calling on devices not *sold* by them so people are spending hours on the phone arguing with them and spoofing IMEI's to get it working. Some people are getting it done, others are sitting a wall and AT&T won't help.
Just wondering if Verizon pulls the same crap.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/help/att-wifi-calling-unlocked-4-xl-t3991909
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Have never had an issue with WiFi calling on any of my pixels - OG bought from Google and my 4XL from Amazon both have wifi calling (on unlimited plan).
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I have Pixel 4 XL on T-Mobile and wifi calling works just fine. Can't tell you the spped since I never treated that but I use it inside the hospital where I work at since my cellular signal isn't the strongest
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I have Pixel 4 XL on T-Mobile and wifi calling works just fine. Can't tell you the spped since I never treated that but I use it inside the hospital where I work at since my cellular signal isn't the strongest
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Is T-Mobile variant on android 10 root able?
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Is T-Mobile variant on android 10 root able?
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As far as I know as long as your phone isn't owed money... Meaning your not doing payments and you own the phone outright than yes. There is a setting under developer options called OEM Unlocking to unlock the phone from T-Mobile. Once unlocked from T-Mobile it will always unlock the bootloader.
At least that is what I read. I'm not sure how to do any of that anyway with rooting and such. I'm still trying to figure out how to screen recording on this phone.
Curious... Did an unlocked t mobile pixel 4 XL end up working fine on verizon? Like regular calls and data?