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As far as making and receiving phone calls, do you use 3g? Any phone I've ever seen that uses 3g absolutely sucks. My dad's phone, my mom's phone, my girlfriend's phone, my phone. What happens is the call either doesn't go through. If you listen to the dial tone it has a small click right before each tone, if I hear that, it mean's the call isn't going through.
My mom and girlfriend have gone through replacements on their phone, but the 3g still sucks. I've even noticed they don't get that great of reception.
Even on my Tilt, if I switch to 3G i only have 2 bars and apparently people have complained of calling me but I never received the call. Now with Edge, I have full bars, and no one ever complains about the call not going through.
So what's your guy's take on 3g?
Similar to what you've experienced. I generally leave mine turned off the majority of the time, since I have the WiFi running when I'm at home anyway. I turn it on only when I need to browse the web or something when I'm out and about.
Not to mention the immense battery drain that 3G demands. My battery life is dramatically better on Edge as opposed to 3G.
Your provider needs to update/fix their network. This is not a device issue, it's a network issue. Proper 3G (well, 3.5G / HSPA, not just UMTS per se) should also use less power than GSM / EDGE for transfers... (in watt/kbps, though)
I know for a fact that all devices in my signature (that support 3G) can work perfectly with 3G on a proper network.
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Your provider needs to update/fix their network. This is not a device issue, it's a network issue. Proper 3G (well, 3.5G / HSPA, not just UMTS per se) should also use less power than GSM / EDGE for transfers... (in watt/kbps, though)
I know for a fact that all devices in my signature (that support 3G), plus the Touch HD, Omnia and i780 can work perfectly with 3G on a proper network.
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I don't experience network issues as bad as the OP seems to have, but I've always had terrible battery life on my Tilt and my iPhone, my two most recent 3G devices. My 8525 was actually very good on the battery with 3G running all day long, never had a problem getting through the day.
Maybe the intermittent GPS usage on the latter two? I don't know.
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Your provider needs to update/fix their network. This is not a device issue, it's a network issue. Proper 3G (well, 3.5G / HSPA, not just UMTS per se) should also use less power than GSM / EDGE for transfers... (in watt/kbps, though)
I know for a fact that all devices in my signature (that support 3G) can work perfectly with 3G on a proper network.
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I should go in and ask them about it, just to see what they say. Ask them why the new and greatest 3g is worse than edge. I have AT&T, I live in Washington, and I live right by a Cell tower too (only a 2 or 3 blocks away from it).
I woudln't mind using it for data but the fees here are prohibitive for private use. We use it on our work phones for data and it works well on Telstra.
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I should go in and ask them about it, just to see what they say. Ask them why the new and greatest 3g is worse than edge. I have AT&T, I live in Washington, and I live right by a Cell tower too (only a 2 or 3 blocks away from it).
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They'll probably say it ain't so Thing is, when 3G first got rolled out here, we had much the same issues. The big providers here spent some $$$ to replace "faulty" hardware at the towers, and voila, the problem disappeared (2 years ago?). Seems many 3G networks around the world have similar issues to the ones you described in the opening post. I have a sneaking suspicion that one of the 3G cell-tower hardware manufacturers - probably the cheapest and hence most used - makes some really crappy equipment. I could almost imagine that manufacturer is Qualcomm
In all seriousness though, all I know for sure is we had these issues here too, and they fixed them by fixing the towers. (Though of course there is some difference between different devices and how well they do 3G)
From talking to some guys at work Telstra's 3G network has been pretty much flawless for them asides from cost issues associated with Telstra.
I live in indonesia and never have any problem with 3G,. , the only problem is, its expensive,. lol,.
I am in NZ
No problems with 3G whatsoever. Have Imate JasJar - loving every second of it.
New Jersey, USA
3G has always seem pretty good around here in New Jersey with AT&T, but I'm 25 minutes from New York, so imagine how many towers they have on the tri-state area (New York, New Jersey and Connecticut). Very rare to lose 3G reception (exept on the iPhone 3G that everybody complains about losing it often). But important to mention also is that Kearny, town where my sister lives, I lose reception a 100%, my phone's reception just dies, and when I switch it to GSM instead of 3G...voila. Full signal strenght.
wow.. the results turned out quite different than I imagined.
Obviously it's just in my area that 3G sucks. I really wish they would fix this, considering that every phone released now is 3G...and you think someone would notice... well, I'm sure if I wait long enough people will start to notice, but who knows,
I can't remember the last time I had problems with 3G. though I remember before Cingular got bought by AT&T and they were just rolling out there 3G, I used to have problems then, I guess it was due to them configuring/re-configuring the towers. I think the engineers were just going by what the manual said, which weren't the best settings for each area.
I'm on 3G all day everyday on the hour and it's good. even when I'm in the basement and have 1 bar I still receive all my calls and I can make calls. though on this 1 bar I sometimes have to repeat myself every 1.5 minute, but I don't complain about that because it's 1 bar and I'm in the basement. at my friend's apartment I'm the only one that get signal, nothing else work there, not T-Mobile, not sprint, not verizon, not alltel, not vergin nothing else only AT&T works and I get 3 bars of 3G there. I always laugh because he has to leave his phone by the window and use his blue tooth.
I honestly don't think you're by a 3G tower because you should be getting way more than 3 bars. also ask them about the issue you're having AT&T is a good company they will listen to you. call them and open a ticket (before this they will have you go through the basic steps, restarting by removing the battery, etc) tell them you've done that multiple times and yet you have the same issue so it must be a network issue. have them escalate the ticket (they will send an engineer out and he/she will call you, they will work on the towers around your area). don't forget to be polite, no one likes a hot head.
in roughly mid year last year I was only getting edge at my job even though it is a 3G area. at home inside my house had full bars, so I called them up and they worked with me. the engineer stayed in my area roughly 2 weeks to deal with the issue. after that I've had 2 bars of 3G in doors at my job.
Hi there,
is it a know issue that while calling, the 3G navigation is not available?
Quite disappointing!!!
I thought the navigation wasn't even actually dependent on a data connection to proceed, once the route is downloaded in full?
ive noticed that all data doesnt work while on a call. i too am very disappointed as i use a lot of data and now it gets interrupted when i get a call. this is the main reason i havent switched from tmobile to sprint...
Something to keep in mind is that performance is going to depend strongly on your 3G connection. I noticed this immediately when I switched to T-Mobile with my AWS Nexus One because my data speed was around 700kbps on a good day.
Now that I've switched to a NAM Nexus One (UMTS 850/1900) and back to AT&T, I have been able to use any data intensive app I want while still on a call since my connection sits around 2.5-3mbps at any given time.
im coming from the touch pro 2 on tmobile and i never had an issue with calling and using data at the same time.
No issues here - data and calling work just fine together, in France, on Orange.
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No issues here - data and calling work just fine together, in France, on Orange.
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mmm Both Vodafone Italia and O2 Ireland have this issue...sound strange that is the carrier though...
I'm not very familiar with this. I've have data (4g lte) connection issues for a while now with my m8.so much so that I'm considering going back to Capts fastboot recovery file just to wipe everything and start over. I'm constantly in a 4G area, but can't get it unless I switch to airplane mode and back. Even then it's short-lived in multiple known 4g areas.
Anyway, tried updating prl. Get an error 1012. But when connected to my airave no problem. Just wondering if that's good to update while hooked up to airave cause I can't in a data area.
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Ok no one has said anything lol
I've been reading and trying to research my problem. I thought I saw a thread on this same issue but haven't found it yet (hard juggling wife kids work & Android).
Anyway I've spoke with sprint and I just don't trust them.
Been watching my signal on net monitor and everytime I connect to am ehrpd tower my phone tries to connect to lte but apparently didn't want to and jumps down to 3g. I can get lte but has to be a lte tower. Not real knowledgeable yet in this stuff but I'm trying.
Currently on Viper
Firmware 1.54.401.5
Prl 51100
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I have no answer for you, but I just got my M8 Wednesday and Im having the exact same issues, its really frustrating
scott_0 said:
I have no answer for you, but I just got my M8 Wednesday and Im having the exact same issues, its really frustrating
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Your having the same problem with ehrpd towers? Trying to figure this out but Google ain't helping much
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Your having the same problem with ehrpd towers? Trying to figure this out but Google ain't helping much
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I'm having similar symptoms. I upgraded this past Monday from a Samsung S3 that had good LTE and CDMA voice inside my home (Plano, TX) and my new M8 cannot maintain any stable connection on the voice or data sides. Even at my workplace, I can only get a weak LTE/Spark connection and no voice. I've already worked with several techs and support people at Sprint throughout the week and even exchanged to another new M8 with no better success. I believe it has to do with the Spark (which is actually one of the LTE-Advanced features) and the CSFB (Circuit-Switched Fall Back) that allows us voice on the old CDMA network until VoLTE to rolled out. I am frustrated enough to turn it back in and just go back to using my old S3.
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I'm having similar symptoms. I upgraded this past Monday from a Samsung S3 that had good LTE and CDMA voice inside my home (Plano, TX) and my new M8 cannot maintain any stable connection on the voice or data sides. Even at my workplace, I can only get a weak LTE/Spark connection and no voice. I've already worked with several techs and support people at Sprint throughout the week and even exchanged to another new M8 with no better success. I believe it has to do with the Spark (which is actually one of the LTE-Advanced features) and the CSFB (Circuit-Switched Fall Back) that allows us voice on the old CDMA network until VoLTE to rolled out. I am frustrated enough to turn it back in and just go back to using my old S3.
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I have no problem with the voice. This is where it seems many are having problems. I'm trying to figure out if this phone is supposed to behave this way with ehrpd towers.
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I've mentioned in a different thread that LTE for me is mostly stable, but it does get a little wonky on me. For example, one day at work the LTE will be strong and solid and the following day it drops out intermittently and toggles 3g on.
Probably a sprint issue, not an m8 issue
I had the same prob with my first M8. Could not got 4g until I switched airplane mode off/on. Took it back withing 14 days and got a new one. This one gets 4g/LTE now but have had to switch airplane mode a couple times. Also, my airave does not like this phone. Sometimes it will give it full signal and then other times 4g will be showing and I have no signal and miss calls. I called airave support and the solution they gave me was to switch to cdma when at home.
This is a known issue with the M8. Some people have had success with HTC replacing the defective phone. http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m8/390449-sprint-signal-issues.html
Yep, defective phone
I had terrible connection problems after buying a brand new phone! Ex: No service, Dropped calls every minute, No LTE, 3G was rare. Basically it was not even a phone! I had to ship mine back to HTC. This was after hours at the Sprint store, and many customer service chats with HTC reps. I also had to unroot my phone which was a huge hassle considering I just found out how to root it. After getting a new one, works fine.
Don't let them tell you it is a service problem if you are having the same symptoms. THIS IS A HARDWARE PROBLEM and HTC needs to fix your phone. Hope this helps
So I was bored and wanted to play around and try to get this to work. So far I have been successful to get data text and mms working on 3G. Now I have noticed that when I boot the phone that it connects to LTE with a strong signal then it reconnects back to 3G its almost like its possible but something it blocking it. Has anyone had success getting further?
UPDATE: I have gotten FULL LTE on Verizon working. Currently trying to figure out a way to allow CDMA as well for calls
Ya good luck I had same issue as you . Talk text 3g working good. Or LTE only working .Never could figure out how to get them both going
Yea I know after hours of messing around lol and two sim cards wasn't satisfying enough I like the phone enough to jump off big red to try T-Mobile. I honestly like this phone better then my Pixel XL
I ditched my Verizon unlimited data plan for cricket unlimited and have no regrets. Best choice I ever made
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So I was bored and wanted to play around and try to get this to work. So far I have been successful to get data text and mms working on 3G. Now I have noticed that when I boot the phone that it connects to LTE with a strong signal then it reconnects back to 3G its almost like its possible but something it blocking it. Has anyone had success getting further?
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Can you explain in detail exactly how you got this to work? I am dying to get this phone I had 1+1 when first realeased and left Verizon to get it, but now Im back on Verizon with my business phone and want this phone nothing else is close to this phone
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Can you explain in detail exactly how you got this to work? I am dying to get this phone I had 1+1 when first realeased and left Verizon to get it, but now Im back on Verizon with my business phone and want this phone nothing else is close to this phone
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It won't work it's one or the other. You are wasting your time
The city I live In has Verizon's xlte network and if you upgrade to advanced Calling then voice calls and messages all use 4g LTE data instead of CDMA, so I would only need LTE data to work, I was able to get the 1+1 to get Verizon's signal but after 5 mins they noticed and intentionally blocked me off their Network a message popped up on the 1+1 saying I had been blocked
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The city I live In has Verizon's xlte network and if you upgrade to advanced Calling then voice calls and messages all use 4g LTE data instead of CDMA, so I would only need LTE data to work, I was able to get the 1+1 to get Verizon's signal but after 5 mins they noticed and intentionally blocked me off their Network a message popped up on the 1+1 saying I had been blocked
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You have to add VoLTE on the phone AND with the carrier. you did both of these options, and t hen were blocked? Did you ever call and ask "why?"?
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UPDATE: I have gotten FULL LTE on Verizon working. Currently trying to figure out a way to allow CDMA as well for calls
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Just curious how you have "LTE" activated on the phone. I turned on "only LTE", but I get absolutely nothing. I am only interested in LTE on t he phone, I do not need to make voice calls of SMS
Force LTE provisioning
I know that people had the same issue on the ZTE axon 7 but we're able to force LTE provisioning by going into the dialer and dialing *#*#4636#*#*. This brings up a hidden test menu and under phone information there is a switch for LTE provisioning. It takes a few tries but eventually sticks on the axon. Can someone try this on the one plus phones to see if it works?
I know this has been rehashed many times, but I thought I'd share a my experiences of how to make the 3T usable on Verizon. Main reason I have the 3T is dual SIM and OEM bootloader unlock. Fantastic device. Switched from Verizon to AT&T just for the phone. The problem is my work uses Verizon. I refuse to carry two phones. So what I've done to solve this is bought the GravityBox app, which has a feature that allows, (among many things!) you to add a custom quick setting shortcut for Network Mode. It lets you decide which SIM the setting applies to, as well as any network modes to cycle through when pressing the shortcut. I of course pick the Verizon SIM. And only select two network modes: 1 CDMA only and 2 LTE only. CDMA only allows calls,text and 2G to work perfectly. When a sending or receiving a MMS on Verizon SIM, or needing to use Verizon LTE, I toggle to Verizon LTE only. This does kick AT&T offline for some reason, but beings that I rarely need to use Verizon data, it's not that big of deal.
One of the great things about this device on Verizon's network is instant LTE service. In my house I have dead areas which cause my signal to drop. When trying to get LTE back it can sometimes take 30 seconds or more because once I get to an area with service it will first go to 3G and then sometimes get stuck on it and I'll have to toggle airplane mode to get LTE back in a timely manner. With the OnePlus6T as soon as I have service it goes instantly to LTE! This is the first time I've ever had a device connect to LTE so fast. All my previous devices over the past 5 years since I've had LTE in my area have annoyed me because they always go to 3G first even though I have strong LTE service where I live.
I've always wondered why companies can't make their phones instantly connect to LTE when it's there and why they always favor 3G -- but this is no longer an issue since the OP6T doesn't have 3G on Verizon
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One of the great things about this device on Verizon's network is instant LTE service. In my house I have dead areas which cause my signal to drop. When trying to get LTE back it can sometimes take 30 seconds or more because once I get to an area with service it will first go to 3G and then sometimes get stuck on it and I'll have to toggle airplane mode to get LTE back in a timely manner. With the OnePlus6T as soon as I have service it goes instantly to LTE! This is the first time I've ever had a device connect to LTE so fast. All my previous devices over the past 5 years since I've had LTE in my area have annoyed me because they always go to 3G first even though I have strong LTE service where I live.
I've always wondered why companies can't make their phones instantly connect to LTE when it's there and why they always favor 3G -- but this is no longer an issue since the OP6T doesn't have 3G on Verizon
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What now happens in the areas where you only had 3G on your old phone? On your new Oneplus 6T do you just have no signal at all since it is only a LTE phone?
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What now happens in the areas where you only had 3G on your old phone? On your new Oneplus 6T do you just have no signal at all since it is only a LTE phone?
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Well, I'm assuming that in none LTE areas I'll have no signal at all. But, Verizon's whole network has been converted to LTE as far as I know. I never go anyone where I don't have LTE (and I live in the sticks). But in the off chance that happens I have 2 lines and my Pixel 2XL is still in service.
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What now happens in the areas where you only had 3G on your old phone? On your new Oneplus 6T do you just have no signal at all since it is only a LTE phone?
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I too am on Verizon, and in my office at work, one of the places I had zero service on Axon 7, I still get calls and text and one spotty bar of LTE. At my house, in the basement bedroom where I have missed countless calls and txts, I have 3 bars of signal and no issues with calls, txts, or LTE.
I drive all around my county for work, and so far, I havent hit a no service area. on the Axon 7, they were evident. It could just be better coverage due to glass back vs metal (the real reason OEMs have switched to glass back imho) or the better modem of the SD 845, but hands down, the cdma-less VZW is far superior for me IRL usage so far.
This is obviously subjective, but despite living in a rural area, I have no need for cdma so far. Vzw is the only carrier with good coverage where i live (upstate SC) and somehow, cdma-less is better.
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I too am on Verizon, and in my office at work, one of the places I had zero service on Axon 7, I still get calls and text and one spotty bar of LTE. At my house, in the basement bedroom where I have missed countless calls and txts, I have 3 bars of signal and no issues with calls, txts, or LTE.
I drive all around my county for work, and so far, I havent hit a no service area. on the Axon 7, they were evident. It could just be better coverage due to glass back vs metal (the real reason OEMs have switched to glass back imho) or the better modem of the SD 845, but hands down, the cdma-less VZW is far superior for me IRL usage so far.
This is obviously subjective, but despite living in a rural area, I have no need for cdma so far. Vzw is the only carrier with good coverage where i live (upstate SC) and somehow, cdma-less is better.
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what network type are you using in the phone information settings??
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what network type are you using in the phone information settings??
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LTE only in *#*#4636#*#*
2g/3g/4g in Preferred Network Type
Yeah I was in a spot Friday that goes to 3g or no signal often. I still had some sort of signal. It had an R and an H on the signal bar I believe. It worked fine and was still pretty fast online. Signal is way better than any of the Pixels was.
When I select LTE only I get two signal icons in the status bar.
Just curious will wifi calling / VOLTE work on Verizon?
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Just curious will wifi calling / VOLTE work on Verizon?
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Volte has worked for me since the moment the tech I chatted with switched my sim to CDMA-less. Case and point, I am in the section of my house with the worst reception, a spot where the Axon 7 I came from got zero service on tmob and Verizon. Yet, much to my heart's content, I have service and VOLTE in the downstairs Faraday cage that is my house.
To the second part, no, Verizon doesn't support wifi calling on this device yet. Hopefully, they will work that out soon, but so far, I am having the best network experience I have had yet with Verizon.
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When I select LTE only I get two signal icons in the status bar.
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Wow, just reset mine and noticed. I guess I had defaulted back to LTE/CDMA/UMTS, which apparently works fine. When I switched to LTE only, you are correct, double LTE icons in the status bar. I don't remember it doing that on 9.0.4. That being said, the other, default setting works perfectly fine for me.
Did y'all not have any problems sending/receiving MMS (not SMS) when your phone was in LTE only mode? I had to manually switch back to the default preferred network type from the dialer menu in order to fix that issue.
I had no problems at all I did the following.
1.Ordered new SIM card
2.Turned off old phone and took out SIM from old phone
3.Went on my Verizon account put in info on BYOD
4. Insert New SIM in 6T
Finish Setting up in your Verizon account then turn on the 6T
Done all working
I was worried because my old phone was 3G but the LTE is everywhere I always have signal.