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I've previously used a Redmi Note 4X and a currently use a ZUK Edge, and no matter how hard I tried to get used to MIUI/ZUI, I eventually got sick of the missing functionality and quirks of the stock roms on these phones.
I was amazed how much better my experience was after I switched to AOSPExtended on the RN4X and Mokee on the Edge. Looking at the threads there are plenty of AOSP/Lineage based roms for the Mix, but not many detailed bug lists. I'm very tempted to pick one up now that the price has gone down, and I want something with better battery life than the 3100mAh Edge.
Can anyone recommend the current most stable and functional rom for the Mix? What are some pros and cons of the different roms like crDroid, AOSPExtended, Lineage, etc?
Thanks!
Out of the box, MIUI (or MIUI-based ROMs like EPIC) will have better battery life judging by comments made in RR/LOS etc threads. I don't pay attention to battery life because I'm never far from a charger and I don't do anything that heavily drains it, like gaming. The ZUK Edge has the same SoC as the Mix but it has a 4400mAh battery so I would assume that battery life will naturally be longer, even with the slightly larger screen. Other users that pay more attention to battery life like albertoduqe will be able to give you more insight.
As for bugs, I have never experienced anything major. I've only tried RR, LOS, Viper and AOSP Extended but the only annoying one I encountered was losing the proximity sensor (reboot to fix). Some other complaints are speakerphone echo, slow to wake from fingerprint scanner (mostly gone now IIRC), loss of sound when switching back from bluetooth headset and upside down front-facing camera (fix).
Since they all pretty much seem to use the same base, you'll see the same issues posted on many of the threads for those ROMs. In that same vein, much of the same functionality can be found on them all too. You will find some stuff missing on some, but it'll often be minor. Like on Viper you don't have full control over the nav bar. Yes, you can add extra buttons but they can only do a small number of things, but on RR you can configure them to do virtually anything (and on long/double tap too). The only way you'll find out all their functionality is to flash them, or at least ask in their respective threads. If I leave MIUI (43rd time) then I will go back to RR as the dev is the most responsive and any issues get addressed very quickly.
The pros for MIUI are better battery life (but by how much really?), better camera quality (I've seen this claimed a few times but never saw an explanation as to why) and smoother general experience (I can confirm that MIUI/EPIC are indeed less prone to stuttering etc, even after tweaking, especially with MIUI 9).
Thanks for that, appreciate the detailed response. I might try MIUI first and see how I go. Normally I get offended by the horrific weather thing at the top of the notification shade, but the Eureka 8 Pro theme makes it look acceptable.
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Thanks for that, appreciate the detailed response. I might try MIUI first and see how I go. Normally I get offended by the horrific weather thing at the top of the notification shade, but the Eureka 8 Pro theme makes it look acceptable.
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All the one's I tried were very similar, viper os
Just edged it, slightly quicker fingerprint unlock and better proximity sensor. Don't rule out miui 9 it is very good.
I would say that the unofficial AOKP ROM was probably the smoothest and had the best battery life. Trouble is it doesn't seem to be maintained and no NFC is implemented.
RR is great, feature packed but I have always had some small bug that prevented me from having it as a daily driver. For example, last build would not allow me to change from charging to transfer files. The one benefit of RR is the maintainer is very active and responds.
For me, the official LOS has been the most stable, albeit a little boring.
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For me, the official LOS has been the most stable, albeit a little boring.
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Sounds fine by me, on Lineage I'm not really interested in customization and bells and whistles, beyond the notification quick toggles
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Sounds fine by me, on Lineage I'm not really interested in customization and bells and whistles, beyond the notification quick toggles
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I think you will be very happy with LOS then.
I have tried all the others and always return to it. It just works.
Hey guys
I currently own a Galaxy S8, but I seriously consider buying the Mi Mix 2 once it will be available
I don't really like big overlays, I hate Touchwiz (or Samsung Experience or whatever), but I'm wondering what about MIUI
So I'm asking you guys the question : What do you think about MIUI ? What are its advantages and its drawbacks according to you ? Why would it be better than an other brand's software ?
Thanks !
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Hey guys
I currently own a Galaxy S8, but I seriously consider buying the Mi Mix 2 once it will be available
I don't really like big overlays, I hate Touchwiz (or Samsung Experience or whatever), but I'm wondering what about MIUI
So I'm asking you guys the question : What do you think about MIUI ? What are its advantages and its drawbacks according to you ? Why would it be better than an other brand's software ?
Thanks !
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The only thing I hate about MIUI is notifications (expand with two fingers, cant interact them in lock screen), besides that I like the design and optimizations, If you dont really care about the notifications handling than you will enjoy it.
Note that now Im using an almost stock android custom rom (ViperOS).
Anyone else ?
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Anyone else ?
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At the first I'm in love at MIUI , but in my perspective it's so laggy after learning about RR and custom kernel and tweaking many things I'll not buy devices with no custom development
As far as performance goes, I've always found MIUI to be smoother than custom ROMs. The gap now is almost non-existent, but 4-5 months back MIUI (and EPIC which is a MIUI mod) was quicker. I've never had a phone with a heavy UI like Touchwiz (mostly Nexus/Moto) so I can't really compare.
Even when I used MIUI (EPIC), I didn't use any MIUI apps. The Google/3rd party alternatives are all better.
The only feature that I'm aware of that MIUI has that others don't is Second Space, which allows you to run two separate versions of any app. Maybe others have it and I've never noticed. It might not even be something you'd use anyway. Some nice features are swiping down to hide the nav bar (frees up more space, although I've heard this has been tweaked in MIUI 9, and not for the better) and quick ball in the nav bar (like a basic PIE control). The themes are pretty good too, and there are a lot of them, but they only apply to the MIUI UI and not the apps themselves (unlike substratum on a custom ROM).
If you go with a custom ROM you will gain a lot but you'll also lose those features, and others like MIUI Cloud backup/Find My Device etc. Since you're talking about the Mi Mix 2, it could be months before custom ROMs are useable as a daily driver anyway so you may have to sit on MIUI for a while at least, even assuming that custom ROMs will be possible (highly likely given other Xiaomi devices).
The major disadvantage, as was mentioned, is the crappy notification implementation. Given the amount of notifications some people can get, it might be a mild inconvenience or a huge pain. There are apps that can mitigate this problem though, like Floatify. It also doesn't have ambient/always-on display. You'll be 'stuck' on Nougat too, so any new Oreo features like PIP (Picture-in-picture) and Notification channels likely won't make it to MIUI for a long time. We're only now getting split screen mode which I had almost 18 months ago on the Nexus 6.
I was primed to get the Mi Mix about this time last year but I waited about 6 months for the price to drop (so I could get the 256/6GB model) but also for ROM development to pick up. I'd recommend the same. Even a year later, how many alternatives are there that have a very large screen combined with high-end specs? Barely any that I can think of, barring the S8+ (6.2 inch, 84% screen-to-body ratio), the V30 (6/81.3%) and the Honor Note 9 (6.6 inch, not yet available).
Personally, I'm in love with MIUI since late 2013.
It's just a complete ROM for me, all features I need are just there and once you start using them it's hard to switch to something else.
I tried many ROM's like RR, CM, LOS, Flyme, etc but always revert back after some time. When using MIUI, I just don't need any 3rd party apps unlike on other ROM's where I have to replace almost every single system app to get functions I need or I get used to. Not to mention that nothing beats MIUI battery life, even with the underclocked kernel on custom ROM's can't beat simple battery saving on MIUI. Performance is the same as I noticed in my daily usage between custom ROM and MIUI, just slightly better Antutu scores on MIUI (if numbers mean something to you).
My suggestion is to try MIUI ROM if you have a chance since usage depends from user to user and it would be silly to say which one is better when everyone has different opinion
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The only thing I hate about MIUI is notifications (expand with two fingers, cant interact them in lock screen), besides that I like the design and optimizations, If you dont really care about the notifications handling than you will enjoy it.
Note that now Im using an almost stock android custom rom (ViperOS).
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At the first I'm in love at MIUI , but in my perspective it's so laggy after learning about RR and custom kernel and tweaking many things I'll not buy devices with no custom development
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As far as performance goes, I've always found MIUI to be smoother than custom ROMs. The gap now is almost non-existent, but 4-5 months back MIUI (and EPIC which is a MIUI mod) was quicker. I've never had a phone with a heavy UI like Touchwiz (mostly Nexus/Moto) so I can't really compare.
Even when I used MIUI (EPIC), I didn't use any MIUI apps. The Google/3rd party alternatives are all better.
The only feature that I'm aware of that MIUI has that others don't is Second Space, which allows you to run two separate versions of any app. Maybe others have it and I've never noticed. It might not even be something you'd use anyway. Some nice features are swiping down to hide the nav bar (frees up more space, although I've heard this has been tweaked in MIUI 9, and not for the better) and quick ball in the nav bar (like a basic PIE control). The themes are pretty good too, and there are a lot of them, but they only apply to the MIUI UI and not the apps themselves (unlike substratum on a custom ROM).
If you go with a custom ROM you will gain a lot but you'll also lose those features, and others like MIUI Cloud backup/Find My Device etc. Since you're talking about the Mi Mix 2, it could be months before custom ROMs are useable as a daily driver anyway so you may have to sit on MIUI for a while at least, even assuming that custom ROMs will be possible (highly likely given other Xiaomi devices).
The major disadvantage, as was mentioned, is the crappy notification implementation. Given the amount of notifications some people can get, it might be a mild inconvenience or a huge pain. There are apps that can mitigate this problem though, like Floatify. It also doesn't have ambient/always-on display. You'll be 'stuck' on Nougat too, so any new Oreo features like PIP (Picture-in-picture) and Notification channels likely won't make it to MIUI for a long time. We're only now getting split screen mode which I had almost 18 months ago on the Nexus 6.
I was primed to get the Mi Mix about this time last year but I waited about 6 months for the price to drop (so I could get the 256/6GB model) but also for ROM development to pick up. I'd recommend the same. Even a year later, how many alternatives are there that have a very large screen combined with high-end specs? Barely any that I can think of, barring the S8+ (6.2 inch, 84% screen-to-body ratio), the V30 (6/81.3%) and the Honor Note 9 (6.6 inch, not yet available).
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Personally, I'm in love with MIUI since late 2013.
It's just a complete ROM for me, all features I need are just there and once you start using them it's hard to switch to something else.
I tried many ROM's like RR, CM, LOS, Flyme, etc but always revert back after some time. When using MIUI, I just don't need any 3rd party apps unlike on other ROM's where I have to replace almost every single system app to get functions I need or I get used to. Not to mention that nothing beats MIUI battery life, even with the underclocked kernel on custom ROM's can't beat simple battery saving on MIUI. Performance is the same as I noticed in my daily usage between custom ROM and MIUI, just slightly better Antutu scores on MIUI (if numbers mean something to you).
My suggestion is to try MIUI ROM if you have a chance since usage depends from user to user and it would be silly to say which one is better when everyone has different opinion
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Okay guys, thank you very much for giving your opinion !
Hello folks. I've been using Moto X Style for about a 1,5 year and I'm tired. Development is slowing down, the phone is really big (my previous one was LG L90). For some time I was looking for a nice, compact smartphone with good battery and decent price. Redmi 4X seems to fit my needs, but is it worth buying now? As far as I know the longer battery is kept unused, the worst condition it has - is 4X still being produced? How about development - how many LOS version may this phone get yet? How is battery life?
Or are there newer models which could fill my needs? 150mm height is too much for me; I like compact smartphones - otherwise I would get Lenovo P2 - that is a beast. Actually I tought that Sony Xperia XA2 would be nice, but that price...
What do you guys think?
Buy redmi 5
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Buy redmi 5
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As I mentioned, 150mm height is too much. I wish I had more compact smartphone.
Redmi 4x's android version range is 6-8 and thanks to treble we booted android p dev previews. About battery life my SoT records are: RR Luis build nougat 8hr 35min RR Luis build oreo 8h 12min android p dev preview 7h 3min
Project Treble seems promising. I wonder how long Android will keep compatibility with it. How about your opinions, then? Do you like this smartphone? Are you happy with it? Would you buy it again?
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Project Treble seems promising. I wonder how long Android will keep compatibility with it. How about your opinions, then? Do you like this smartphone? Are you happy with it? Would you buy it again?
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My previous phone was zenfone 6 (6 inch display x86 cpu) I was in your situation. It isnt even fit on pocket, lack of development, etc. Redmi 4x seems fine after 6 inch junk. 5 inch display, more custom rom support, Camera is amazing with gcam (miui default cam is fine too), 8 core cpu. Gaming performance is great and also it is cheap. Im definitely happy with redmi 4x
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Hello folks. I've been using Moto X Style for about a 1,5 year and I'm tired. Development is slowing down, the phone is really big (my previous one was LG L90). For some time I was looking for a nice, compact smartphone with good battery and decent price. Redmi 4X seems to fit my needs, but is it worth buying now? As far as I know the longer battery is kept unused, the worst condition it has - is 4X still being produced? How about development - how many LOS version may this phone get yet? How is battery life?
Or are there newer models which could fill my needs? 150mm height is too much for me; I like compact smartphones - otherwise I would get Lenovo P2 - that is a beast. Actually I tought that Sony Xperia XA2 would be nice, but that price...
What do you guys think?
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If u want to compact phone, santoni is best choice
Redmi 4X has several ROM's even project treble supported ROM's too.
Custom kernels available too.Development is quite good.
I think xiaomi less likely to make 5inch device in future too because as they are releasing newer devices in the range of 5.5 to 5.9 inches. For e.g. Redmi 6 has 5.5 inch display Maybe they produce 5 inch display phone with tight budget in future e.g. Redmi 4A.
I would say at least go for SD 625 device if there is any 5 inch device.
You've mentioned you might go for Lenovo P2 which has 5.5 inch display considering this Redmi 5 would be fine since it has 5.7 inch display and SD 450 and it's better than SD 435 and has same GPU as SD 625.
If there's any xiaomi store out there near by you live then try out newer xiaomi device yourself to get better decision on which device to get.
SD 435 is based on 28nm technology and now almost all new SD chipsets are based on 14nm or lower so it's better to get this devices.
With using only mobile data on Redmi 4X I do need to charge device in evening or night.
With mix usage it lasts 1½ days which translates roughly around 8 hours of sot. On MIUI 8 I used to get around 10hours of sot.
If you buy Redmi 4X now there's very chance that your phone will have white color notification LED.
Do let us know which one you buy
In the end I bought Redmi 4X since it was quite cheap. It fits nice in my hand. I'm not using it as daily yet, but "play" with it now.
Can you suggest me some nice custom roms (with as little bugs as possible)? Or maybe miui is the way to go (global or xiaomi.eu?). I just wish I could deactivate fingerprint scanner (I don't use it, but touching it with finger accidentaly wakes phone) and remove/disable some google apps. I heard root on miui is available on xiaomi.eu version.
First(I am sure you know it) get device's bootloader unlocked, it a quiet hectic process and will take few days.
The custom ROM's I'll recommend you are list below.
I have personally tried all of them and they are pretty good almost bugless, with good battery backup.
I haven't tried any custom kernel so can't say anything about them. If you wish you can try.
All of them are Oreo based.
1. Resurrection Remix OS.
2. DOT OS.
3. Nitrogen OS.
4. Havoc OS.
I recommend the new Xaiomi Mi A2 lite. It´s very handy too.
Watch this video from minute 6 on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4I8eSKFF3w
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First(I am sure you know it) get device's bootloader unlocked, it a quiet hectic process and will take few days.
The custom ROM's I'll recommend you are list below.
I have personally tried all of them and they are pretty good almost bugless, with good battery backup.
I haven't tried any custom kernel so can't say anything about them. If you wish you can try.
All of them are Oreo based.
1. Resurrection Remix OS.
2. DOT OS.
3. Nitrogen OS.
4. Havoc OS.
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Any drawabacks on RR? I heard battery does not last as long on custom as on miui. How about camera and flashlight gestures? Can I set double click on power/volume button to trigger them? Or long click?
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Of course no. Sd 435 is too old for q3 2k18. I think the minimum soc right now is sd636 (redmi note 5, and other phone with that soc). Iam currently using redmi 4x, but I'll trade this phone to a newer xiaomi (I dont have a lot of money, so i'll choose xiaomi)
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Any drawabacks on RR? I heard battery does not last as long on custom as on miui. How about camera and flashlight gestures? Can I set double click on power/volume button to trigger them? Or long click?
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I didn't faced any bugs since my usage was using social media apps,some photo editing apps, calls, camera (gcam) and playing PUBG mobile and clash royale.
I noticed the battery drain faster while playing pubgm in rr than miui so yes it does eat more battery when comparing it to miui. Using custom kernel you may get good battery life.
When using it on 4G LTE the battery was draining fast too and experienced device to go warm.
Yes, you can set camera button as far as I remember.
The last time i used rr was in last two weeks of April and early few days of May.
Last build was released in April and later there's no update made available yet.
I think we'll be looking at directly Android P based rr in next update.
To get latest security patch and Android P experience I moved to DOT OS and it's a good build and it also has all the customization that are available in rr and so does the havoc OS.
In my opinion all custom ROM's doesn't have battery backup like MIUI but it's not bad it's decent.
Flashlight gesture I don't know I didn't tried that but it should be available there.
Currently I am using MIUI 10 Global beta and battery backup is good I get SOT around 8 hours with mix usage but again when using 4G LTE it drops down to 4 or 5 hours of SOT.
Battery saver helps a little bit so it's turned on all the time.
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In the end I bought Redmi 4X since it was quite cheap. It fits nice in my hand. I'm not using it as daily yet, but "play" with it now.
Can you suggest me some nice custom roms (with as little bugs as possible)? Or maybe miui is the way to go (global or xiaomi.eu?). I just wish I could deactivate fingerprint scanner (I don't use it, but touching it with finger accidentaly wakes phone) and remove/disable some google apps. I heard root on miui is available on xiaomi.eu version.
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I am currently using AOSP EXTENDED. It is smooth and bugless. It's Oreo based.
Use havoc os with phantom kernel (thunder plug hotplug) (alucard governor) you'll be amazed. HAVOC OS > Dot OS in both battery life and performance and fluidity.
10+ SOT
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Use havoc os with phantom kernel (thunder plug hotplug) (alucard governor) you'll be amazed. HAVOC OS > Dot OS in both battery life and performance and fluidity.
10+ SOT
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10+ hours of SOT is just fantastic.
I(or rather we) used to had such SOT on MIUI 8.
I'll try this combinations soon in few days, currently on MIUI 10 Global beta 8.8.2.
Does firmware version matter?
Hey guys, can you recommend me a custom pie rom for Oneplus 3T? I have been reading about Pixel Experience Rom & LineageOS. I'm unsure about which one to go. I mostly use my phone for messaging, calls and reddit/instagram/quora and stuff. I don't use my phone for gaming. So, what rom would you guys suggest for a daily driver.
Thanks!
For a long time Msm Extended. Stable and full of customization.
I'm on SkyDragon and quite happy with it. Very fast due to chip specific optimizations, has enough customization options, no apparent bugs at this point.
Tbh any ROM will do if you're not a demanding user so just try something
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I'm on SkyDragon and quite happy with it. Very fast due to chip specific optimizations, has enough customization options, no apparent bugs at this point.
Tbh any ROM will do if you're not a demanding user so just try something
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Well honestly I like simpler interface that's why I mentioned Pixel Experience and LineageOS. Who among them would be a better choice?
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Well honestly I like simpler interface that's why I mentioned Pixel Experience and LineageOS. Who among them would be a better choice?
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Well, apart from ROM specific customizations menues (which you can simply ignore if you don't wanna tinker with it) they all use stock AOSP interface, so they're all pretty much the same in that aspect.
I haven't personally tried (yet) those two that you mentioned, simply because SkyDragon was first Pie ROM that I tried after a bit of research and then I didn't feel the need to change it. I would assume however that LOS can't be a bad choice; I've used it before (older Android versions) on multiple devices and was always satisfied with it. It is still in beta though so some minor bugs are to be expected.
HAVOC, SKYDRAGON, MSM(next release)
I would highly encourage you to use NLOS 16. It's a stock LOS 16 build with developer's cherry picks to add more stability. There no extra gimmicks or customization than what you will find in a LOS build. Instead, it's more stable and bit better on optimizations that stock LOS build. I would highly recommend you to try it if you want to chose from LOS and Pixel Experience.
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I would highly encourage you to use NLOS 16. It's a stock LOS 16 build with developer's cherry picks to add more stability. There no extra gimmicks or customization than what you will find in a LOS build. Instead, it's more stable and bit better on optimizations that stock LOS build. I would highly recommend you to try it if you want to chose from LOS and Pixel Experience.
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It's stable and good battery life?
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It's stable and good battery life?
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Is it stable? - Yes, during my 1 week usage with it, it was a stable ROM.
Battery Life - Your usage is different than mine. No one can answer this question for you. You need to flash and try and then see for yourself if the battery life is good for your usage. Someone who watches a lot of netflix or youtube can have 6 hours SOT and will call the battery life great. On the other hand, with 4G 100% time connected, and lot of location access, phone calls, high brightness usage, i am lucky if I have 4 hours SOT at the end of day. So, rather than asking battery life questions, just try the ROM and see for yourself. It has all basic functions working so you won't lose on anything. It's the beauty of custom ROMs. If you don't like one, switch to other one of use stock till you find the one ROM that works for you.
AOSiP
I have tried every pie rom , nothing can match AOSiP in smoothness and stability
Havoc Os, the best pie rom ever...
Using closed beta. Bugs are present
I use LineageOS 16, and it's the best of ROMs for me.
I like AOSP style OS, and I have ~5 hours of active screen.
DU -> Havoc -> Closed Beta ... I can not decide and jump between this 3 roms...
Currently NitrogenOS...no bugs, very smooth, great battery life
After testing many custom ROMs, my two favourites are Havoc OS and Pixel Experience. As these tend to be the most popular for users of mi 8 custom ROMs, I would like to ask the community which one has best stability, battery life and ram management. I do not use my phone for gaming so gaming performance is not really a concern.
I've recently down the rounds on the latest android 10 ROMs.
For me I preferred pixel experience out the 2 you have stated, seemed more stable and more importantly for me android auto was working where as it doesn't currently in havoc. Havoc does have more customisations though.
Havoc has just released an update which I'm yet to try, but for the time being I'm back to the latest Xiaomi EU ROM weekly, as it's rock solid. I will give the aosp builds a couple of months and to get android 10 stable and try them again.
This is all based on my experience / phone usage, so what works for me, may not be right for you
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For me xiaomi eu was brilliant, but regarding battery life (which is ageing in my unit - it's from 09.2018), eu was not giving me enough to survive without recharging. On Aosp it's still 30% when only 15% on eu. I use EvoX currently, as it has least issues and glitches, and it's the only rom apart from Eu where all my banking apps work. I think you can only find the answer between your two Roms, if you find someone who switch between them after at least few days of usage.
Well, I'm using Havoc and it seems very nice. I prefer it to Pixel Experience because you can customize every single thing, but both are good. Very good battery life, about 7h screen on time. If you're looking for a MIUI Based rom with a good battery life, I recommend RevOS MIUI, it will surprise you.