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I'm going to get a battery pack,
Probably a huge capacity like 8k to 12k mAh with super fast charging like 2Amp.
My questions are
1. Can nexus s use the 2amp charging rate?
[Samsung changer for nexus s is 0.7A and I tried using my HTC charger which is 1A. It really charged up quicker.]
2. Will my battery get hurt if I use such high of amper?
Please give me some advice. If possible, please give me some suggestion.
Thanks in advanced.
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The 2A rating is just the maximum current that can be drawn from it, it doesn't mean its supplying 2A constantly. The current drawn will depend on how fast the Nexus S decides to charge. Of course there's the issue of charging in USB mode instead of AC mode if the data pins of the USB port are not shorted, which most third party accessories don't. Then the Nexus S will only draw 500mA at most, which is quite slow. If you short the data lines of your USB cable, for example, your Nexus S will draw up to ~700mA, that will be the same rate as the stock charger.
Si_NZ said:
The 2A rating is just the maximum current that can be drawn from it, it doesn't mean its supplying 2A constantly. The current drawn will depend on how fast the Nexus S decides to charge. Of course there's the issue of charging in USB mode instead of AC mode if the data pins of the USB port are not shorted, which most third party accessories don't. Then the Nexus S will only draw 500mA at most, which is quite slow. If you short the data lines of your USB cable, for example, your Nexus S will draw up to ~700mA, that will be the same rate as the stock charger.
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Getting the battery soon... will tell you guys the experience.
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Getting the battery soon... will tell you guys the experience.
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Sorry to revive a dead thread like this, but what came of this?
Hi, im just wondering is there any benefit using a 2amp charger on the htc m8 , faster charging ? i know HTC are gonna release a faster charger which is 1.67amp , is it just the amp or it has some feature Quick Charge 2.0 built in you cant get with other chargers ?
the HTC One is rated to support Quick Charge 2.0 capable of accepting up to 60 watts of power – an increase of almost 100% compared to phones with Quick Charge 1.0. The 1.5amp charger bundled with the HTC One (M8), however, does not support Quick Charge 2.0. HTC is planning on releasing an optional 1.67amp charger accessory that will come with the technology later this year
Thanks
Yeah, it will charge a bit faster.
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Tikerz said:
Yeah, it will charge a bit faster.
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Would it be safe though? Cause I heard someone was using a third party charger on 2.0 and the guy said it was heating up like hell
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ekabon said:
Would it be safe though? Cause I heard someone was using a third party charger on 2.0 and the guy said it was heating up like hell
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I've used the 2.0A charger that came with my Galaxy S4 and didn't really notice the phone heating up to unusual temps.
You can use a 10A charger if you have one (and it works with your power outlet), the phone should never draw more than the maximum it draws.
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I would really like to hear from someone who's actually used one with our phone model. Thanks
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ekabon said:
I would really like to hear from someone who's actually used one with our phone model. Thanks
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I originally used the charger I got with my M8, but then switched to a 2.5amp charger. According to GSam, my time to charge from around 80% to full is around 15 mins, but with the original charger, it was around 30 mins.
So from my experience, it does charge faster. From what I have read about QC2, the technology is in the processor in the phone. The charger can be any type, as long as it is able to deliver up to 60 watts.
See here - http://www.zdnet.com/qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-offers-75-percent-faster-charging-7000026519/
The tech is actually in both the phone AND the wall charger:
From http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/quick-charge
"While Quick Charge 1.0 rests in the devices only, Quick Charge 2.0 resides in both the device, offered as a standalone IC solution or as part of the PMIC (power management integrated circuit) of Snapdragon™ 800 processors, and in the AC/DC wall charger."
The one you link is worded a little ambiguously:
"Qualcomm hopes to take things further by integrating Quick Charge 2.0 technology into standard micro-USB AC/DC wall chargers. These chargers will look and work like standard chargers, but will be able to deliver Quick Charge to compatible devices."
I tripped on it a couple times when reading it too, but it's implying that the tech does not currently reside in standard chargers, since they're still working on integrating it.
guess i will get the HTC fast charger when out and i bet we should get compatible quick charge 2.0 chargers too
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The amperage of the charger makes no difference, the device will only ever draw the power it requires to charge, no more. so a 5a charger would be no different to a 2a charger if the phone only draws 1.5a for example. find out what the device needs to charge and get as close as you can to that size for protection reasons
uscool said:
Hi, im just wondering is there any benefit using a 2amp charger on the htc m8 , faster charging ? i know HTC are gonna release a faster charger which is 1.67amp , is it just the amp or it has some feature Quick Charge 2.0 built in you cant get with other chargers ?
the HTC One is rated to support Quick Charge 2.0 capable of accepting up to 60 watts of power – an increase of almost 100% compared to phones with Quick Charge 1.0. The 1.5amp charger bundled with the HTC One (M8), however, does not support Quick Charge 2.0. HTC is planning on releasing an optional 1.67amp charger accessory that will come with the technology later this year
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Would it be safe though? Cause I heard someone was using a third party charger on 2.0 and the guy said it was heating up like hell
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Yes, it will charge it faster. I used my 2amp charger and it did charge it faster. The phone may have some protection built in to protect the phones hardware. But the battery can handle much higher charge rates and the battery shouldn't start heating up till 20-30 amps. Yes, that's right.
I use Li-poly to race electric RC's and we charge them up to 50 amps. This charger will --->http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__46368__iCharger_308DUO_1300W_Dual_Channel_8s_Balance_Charger.html
Most people only charge at 5-10 amps, but to get peak performance, you will need to create a bit of heat and that doesn't happen till 20-30 amps.
Since I jumped from my old note 3tothe m8 I was able to keep the charger and it's a 2A one. Will I get the full 2.0 benefits with it or must I wait for the HTC one?
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Since I jumped from my old note 3tothe m8 I was able to keep the charger and it's a 2A one. Will I get the full 2.0 benefits with it or must I wait for the HTC one?
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You will get whatever amp the M8 can take. i assume its 2A
I have a 2amp charger and i use it for my M8. i only see about a 30 min different from using a 1amp charger.
Its not just Amps, quickcharge 2.0 Also bumps up voltage. I tested multiple combinations with my htc one M8, here are my findings:
Quickcharge 2.0 18W Aukey (with regular micro usb cable): 9v/1.1A (~10w)
Quickcharge 2.0 18W Aukey (with data cut off cable): 5v/1.52A (~7.5w)
Wall 5v 2.4A charger: 5v/1.52A (~7.5w)
Stock 5v 1A charger: 5v/0.99A (~5w)
Car 5v 2A charger: 5v/1.3A (~6.5w)
some old 5v 700mA charger: 5v/0.7A (~3.5w)
MacBook Air USB port (2013) (with regular micro usb cable): 5v/500mA (~2.5w)
MacBook Air USB port (2013)(with data cut off cable): 5v/1A (~5w)
Ipad charger rated 5.2V/2.3A : 5v/1A (~5w) (no clue why its so sucky)
Also I noticed m8 once connected to charger (non Quickcharge 2.0) slowly increases charge current. if voltage drops below 4.92v it drops it back to these fixed values, whichever is immediate lower: 3oomA, 500mA, 700mA, 1A, 1.3A, 1.42A. 1.52A
these values are as per multimeters.
my car charger is tricky, it sometimes just falls to 1A instead of 1.3 as it border lines V to 4.92 while at 1.3Amps. (it is rated for 2.4A)
Dude... This thread you replied to is a YEAR old!
This has already been heavily discussed in newer threads.
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I got a new nexus 5x and I don't have the original wall charger.
I was thinking to charge it with the cable/wall charger that came with my 6p.
I was wandering weather it would be safe to charge with the 6p charger and if there are any differences between the two chargers.
Thanks.
They should be the same.
I am currently charging my 5x with my 6p charger with zero issues.
I had to borrow a coworker's 6P charger for my 5X and I charged to 100% w/ no issues.
I sold my 6p but kept the charger. used and compared it to the 5x's. they charge at pretty much the same rate. it just depends on thermal throttling and heat on how fast it charges. all good and nothing to worry if you ask me ☺
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k.s.deviate said:
I am currently charging my 5x with my 6p charger with zero issues.
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Good luck.
Brady0123 said:
Good luck.
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Why do you say that? Do you know something that the class would benefit from?
k.s.deviate said:
Why do you say that? Do you know something that the class would benefit from?
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I mean there may be some hidden trouble probably
Brady0123 said:
I mean there may be some hidden trouble probably
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Look at the "what's in the box" in the Google store for the 5x and 6P. Both have the same 15W (5V/3A) charger listed.
There is no difference between the chargers.
So as long as the Watts, volts, amps are the same I can use any (non cheap) wall block? I have TONS of Samsung wall blocks and just bought 4 USB type c to a cords...still only have 1 wall block. Can I use the Samsung blocks?
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So as long as the Watts, volts, amps are the same I can use any (non cheap) wall block? I have TONS of Samsung wall blocks and just bought 4 USB type c to a cords...still only have 1 wall block. Can I use the Samsung blocks?
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Take a look at the article below. Yes, you can. However, it won't charge as quickly if it's a Samsung quickcharge charger. What really matters is that your cable is compliant. There has been enough talk on this board about that already.
Personally, I have four different chargers that I use. All work well.
1) The original one that came with the phone.
2) An old 1A charger from Samsung (non-quickcharge). Doesn't charge quickly. I use it over night.
3) A wall outlet with a 2A USB plug built in. Charges pretty quickly, but not as fast as the original charger, which puts out up to 3A.
4) iXCC dual usb 4.8A 24W car charger. Puts out 2.4A to each port and charges my phone almost as fast as the original charger.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ask-ac-can-i-use-qualcomm-quick-charger-my-usb-c-nexus-phone
One of the big concerns I had with the proprietary Dash Charging system is whether I'd be able to use previously purchased power banks.
I've been testing my OP3 with the RAVPower 26800mAh powerbank along with the Anker USB-C to USB 2.0 cable.
The powerbank is capable of outputting 2.4a, which produces a quick charge on other devices.
On the OP3, I get between 30 and 57% charge / h (measured using the Battery Monitor Widget app), which is acceptable to me.
It's not Dash Charging speed, but it'll work in case you were wondering.
MI Charger
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
quote from Android central
"For the first time, OnePlus is including a fast charging system on the OnePlus 3. Rather than go with another standard like Qualcomm's Quick Charge, OnePlus made its own "Dash Charge" system. Dash Charge promises a 60% charge on your OnePlus 3 in just 30 minutes, which is just as fast as any other system — the only catch here is you'll have to use the Dash Charger in the box and the included cable.
Your OnePlus 3 will charge just fine off of other chargers — whether they're Quick Charge 3.0, Nexus Rapid Charge or something else — but you just won't get Dash Charge speeds."
I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Seemed like a good choice as outputting 3.6A would be good enough for me. Would you be able to point me a link where to purchase it from? Many thanks.
are you sure the 3.6a isnt a maximum of all the ports on the bank?
usually if they have multiple ports they say a maximum load for all being X, but I've only ever seen a maximum amperage of 2.4a on a port (few and far between) most 2.1a as stated per port.
even then they charge my OP3 at 1.2a using oneplus's cable, same as my s5 beforehand.
there is a great app on the store called Ampere which tells you your current charging/discharging amps
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I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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and ?? whats the verdict ?
It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Link to that powerbank please
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It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Check my post on another thread,
You can use OPPO VOOC Powerbank,
It charge as fast as at least 3.5A
It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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and ?? whats the verdict ?
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Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result
Framedtrash said:
It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.
OP3 is only able to charge at 1.5A max with everything except the dash charger and cable, from my tests.
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No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.
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No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time
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No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time
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Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
What's the easiest way to test what amperage a non-Dash charger is charging at? I'm curious to know if some of my Quick Charge adapters will provide 2.4A. I've only done a very brief test with my QC3 car charger, but it gave me 3% in about 4 minutes. That's about what I was getting on a QC2.0 phone, and that's perfectly acceptable in my books.
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Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Huh? that's my first comment lol and VOOC and DASH are exactly the same technology and have their specific patent. As far as I know, it will only charge with those specific chargers since it is not only the charging brick holding some proprietary charging solution but also the cable. I have a USB-C cable that can withstand over 4A but will not work even when plugged to the DASH charger. Now yes there may be a charger that quick charges this phone but it'd be very unlikely that it does exist since the cable and brick would have to have the exact specifications as the DASH/VOOC chargers.
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Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Haha
As stated VOOC and DASH are the exact same thing, VOOC was created by OPPO and the rebranded by oneplus
No amount of software is going to change a hardware limitation
I guess your going to tell me that a dev is going to release a software patch that restores the headphone jack on a iPhone
Download ampere from the playstore if you want to get a rough idea of what your device is charging at
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Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result
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Same question. Really interested in the Oneplus Power Bank charging results. Please.
Hi, my previous phone was Nexus 6P, can i use 6P charger as fast charger for Mi A2 since its output is 5V-3A ?
Yes. It will eventually indicate it's charging rapidly in the lock screen.
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Yes. It will eventually indicate it's charging rapidly in the lock screen.
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Can it be harmful for battery health?
DarkHellMan said:
Can it be harmful for battery health?
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No, the Nexus chargers use USB-PD for fast charging, which is the USB C rapid charging standard and shouldn't be harmful.