Previously i was getting high speed data transfers, now it seems to be capped at 47.2 MB/s. Anyone else facing this issue? I will buy a new cable and try again. But my other device Lg g7+ is working at 150+ MB/s on same cable, same pc, same file.
The side port is working on full usb 3 speed. The bottom port seems to be hampered.
Their blog states the two USB-C ports are not the same spec, and the bottom port was USB 2.0 from the start.
https://rog.asus.com/articles/smart...delivers-gaming-superiority-anywhere-anytime/
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Their blog states the two USB-C ports are not the same spec, and the bottom port was USB 2.0 from the start.
https://rog.asus.com/articles/smart...delivers-gaming-superiority-anywhere-anytime/
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Thank you, this sums it up.
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I came across this hub:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...d=1030702&p_id=9955&seq=1&format=1#largeimage
Looks pretty nice, all USB 3.0 ports, capable of supplying a 900ma of power to each port. Good for all sorts of things, not just a tablet being connected to the computer.
What I was wondering about this is would it be possible to open it up and short the data pins so that it is only capable of being a charging device? If so, it probably wouldnt even need a connection to a PC, just need to be plugged into the power adapter. I am wondering on this because if possible, that would mean when only using 1 port it (theoretically) would be capable of sending 3.8A out to the one device if the device tried to pull that much. Since the tablet would see the shorted connection it should at least try to pull 2A. Anyway, I just thought it would be a fun project to try and modify in this way. I will probably get it soon and attempt this myself, and might even look into beefing up the internal power circuit area to make sure it can safely send 3+ amps out one port if asked to. It would be nice to use this in conjunction with a pogo connector and finally be able to charge faster than the tablet drains while gaming.
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... Looks pretty nice, all USB 3.0 ports, ...
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Nexus 10 USB specs "microUSB v2.0"
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_google_nexus_10_p8110-5084.php
Would you get value from USB 3.0 ports with a USB v2.0 interface?
To get the full USB 3.0 power of 900mA, the device has to be configured as a USB3.0 device. The hardware developer USB 3.0 command verifier tool is separate from the USB 2.0 one
I thought we had also verified the USB connector and the POGO connector are mutually exclusive in power terms, even if the charging circuit inside the Nexus 10 could be modified to accept more than 2.5A.
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To get the full USB 3.0 power of 900mA, the device has to be configured as a USB3.0 device. The hardware developer USB 3.0 command verifier tool is separate from the USB 2.0 one
I thought we had also verified the USB connector and the POGO connector are mutually exclusive in power terms, even if the charging circuit inside the Nexus 10 could be modified to accept more than 2.5A.
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Sorry, I dont scour the threads in accessories every day so thats news to me. Besides, I dont even know what "mutually exclusive" is supposed to mean in relation to this. If the pogo connector has a USB end and draws 2A from the power adapter, why wouldnt it be able to draw 2A from any source capable of putting out that much power? Your trying to tell me that the pogo connector somehow signals it is a USB2.0 device? If thats the case it wouldnt be able to draw more than the 500mA. The regular power adapter has a USB output connector after all and it can send 2A just fine. This hub has its own power adapter and doesnt try to draw the full 3.8A through a computer connection. What is the difference between the power adapter that comes with the tablet and a hub that has its own PSU to output that much and more power?
and yes I know it wouldnt transfer at 3.0 data speeds since the tablet has a 2.0 port, but I wouldn't be using the USB port on the tablet. But why would the USB somehow signal that it will only send 500mA through the pogo connector?
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Sorry, I dont scour the threads in accessories every day so thats news to me. Besides, I dont even know what "mutually exclusive" is supposed to mean in relation to this.
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Mutually exclusive: charge from POGO or USB, but not both at the same time
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If the pogo connector has a USB end and draws 2A from the power adapter, why wouldnt it be able to draw 2A from any source capable of putting out that much power? Your trying to tell me that the pogo connector somehow signals it is a USB2.0 device? If thats the case it wouldnt be able to draw more than the 500mA. The regular power adapter has a USB output connector after all and it can send 2A just fine. This hub has its own power adapter and doesnt try to draw the full 3.8A through a computer connection. What is the difference between the power adapter that comes with the tablet and a hub that has its own PSU to output that much and more power?
and yes I know it wouldnt transfer at 3.0 data speeds since the tablet has a 2.0 port, but I wouldn't be using the USB port on the tablet. But why would the USB somehow signal that it will only send 500mA through the pogo connector?
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The POGO connector, although it connects to a USB port, is not bound by the USB specification for how much it can draw. USB chargers are available that can deliver up to 3A, but it's up to the device to request this much power.
The specifications for USB 2.0 of 500mA (and 900mA for USB 3.0) are for a power and data connection, but their is an added specification for power only of 1.8A (and 5A for USB 3.0). a hub will generally adhere to the power and data specification, while the USB PSU has no data functionality (this is determined by their being a short circuit on the D+/D- USB pair).
The reason a USB 2.0 device will not draw 900mA from a USB 3.0 port, is because it's the device that negotiates the connection, and as a USB 2.0 device, it will only request the 500mA maximum from the USB 2.0 specification.
Try to think of it this way: an incandescent light bulb will not be any brighter if you increase the power source current.
Ok, but you just said everything I was talking about. So when I modify the hub to get rid of the data connection, and not even connect it to a computer and just have its power supply connected, how would that be different than simply a normal charger? The tablet would be charging through its pogo connector, and it simply plugs into the hub with a 3.8A power supply. So it wouldnt have anything to do with any USB limits then right? Cause the hub is USB3.0 ports capable so it is not like a USB 2.0 hub that wouldnt have the proper internal circuitry to push the 3.8A I will be trying to draw.
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Ok, but you just said everything I was talking about. So when I modify the hub to get rid of the data connection, and not even connect it to a computer and just have its power supply connected, how would that be different than simply a normal charger? The tablet would be charging through its pogo connector, and it simply plugs into the hub with a 3.8A power supply. So it wouldnt have anything to do with any USB limits then right? Cause the hub is USB3.0 ports capable so it is not like a USB 2.0 hub that wouldnt have the proper internal circuitry to push the 3.8A I will be trying to draw.
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If you short the D+/D- pins, you can then use the hub as a standard charger PSU, capable of delivering 3.8A.
The issue is that current gets pulled, not pushed. It doesn't matter how many Amps you provide, the Nexus 10 charging circuit is only capable of pulling a maximum of 2.5A. (datasheet for the charge circuit can be found here).
From earlier posts (in one of the POGO threads, I think), there were found to be kernel limits restricting the SMB347 charging to 2A.
Will something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019R9ILTG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_q-JAxb7EJEY0P work on the OnePlus 3?
I would like to connect for example a DAC and a USB stick at the same time... Would that work?
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Will something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019R9ILTG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_q-JAxb7EJEY0P work on the OnePlus 3?
I would like to connect for example a DAC and a USB stick at the same time... Would that work?
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I just bought a similar, though less expensive case I'm expecting tomorrow: Sabrent 4-Port USB 3.0 Hub with Individual Power Switches and LEDs included 5V/2.5A power adapter (HB-UMP3) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TPMEOYM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_O9CFxb36PNQJJ
Everything I've read suggests most chargers are fine, though you'll miss the benefits of Dash charging. You don't need an overpriced USB hub, just type c cables. I'll update if something goes awry.
Some additional data re: cables here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...sb-c-compliant-cables-adapters-t3401820/page2
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Will something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019R9ILTG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_q-JAxb7EJEY0P work on the OnePlus 3?
I would like to connect for example a DAC and a USB stick at the same time... Would that work?
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Normally, phones will support only one mode at a time; it eithers charges OR file-transfer mode. Correct me if oneplus3 is different (doing research, placing order soonish -> i broke my one+ screen )
Is anyone else having issues with the connection to their note dropping in an out using a USBc - A 3.0 cable? I have tried several cables and at least two different PCs, and if I leave it connected, I will get the windows usb detached, and usb attached sounds, sometimes back and forth over and over again.
In some cases it does it constantly, but then I think it has settled down and do a large copy and it might drop during the copy.
So far it doesn't seem to be happening with an older USB2 cable using the micro to usbc adapter and I don't have the OEM cable right now to make sure it is not the aftermarket cables (two different cable manufacturers).
Just checking to see if maybe there is something I am missing before I reach out to Samsung.
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Okay, the cable that came with the phone seems to work with no problems.
Has anyone had problems with USBc - USB A 3.0 cables? I find it odd that the problem was on two different manufacturers and multiple cables/computers. If quality is the issue, then how do I know what cables to buy? I sure as hell don't want to have to pay samsung prices for all my cables!
I've read somewhere here on XDA that the included cable with the Note 8 is actually USB 2.0. The one included with the Gear 360 is USB 3.1, so if you got the promotion for that you can try and see if that works.
After an hour on the phone, being asked the same questions over and over, going through 3 people plus the chat for support. Samsung tells me to use the USB 2.0 cable that came with the phone and that they don't support non Samsung cables! I posted on Their FB page and have received some encouraging replies. So hopefully they will either tell me what I am doing wrong or send me a new phone.
I would also make sure that the phone is not putting something to sleep that is causing that as well. I had this happen when I was transferring from pc to phone the first time. It wouldn't stay connected, would always drop. Problem went away after factory reset,but I transferred files before I did anything else the second time and had no troubles.
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I would also make sure that the phone is not putting something to sleep that is causing that as well. I had this happen when I was transferring from pc to phone the first time. It wouldn't stay connected, would always drop. Problem went away after factory reset,but I transferred files before I did anything else the second time and had no troubles.
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Could there be something putting it to sleep on USB3 and not USB2? I have tested quite a bit and the only difference is 2.0 vs 3.0.
And samsung is sticking to ONLY samsung cables are supported. WHAT?!?!? They include a USB 2.0 cable and tell me THAT is what is supported on their 3.1 capable connection??? I am so close to just sending the damn thing back.
How many threads do you need to make?
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Is anyone else having issues with the connection to their note dropping in an out using a USBc - A 3.0 cable?
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No.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/using-usb-c-to-3-0-3-1-cables-t3683599
i bought a few aukey usb 3.0 cables from Amazon, and use them effortless all the time with this phone..
Have you tried going into Device Manager > USB Root Hub(s) and disabling Power Management?
If you're performing a large copy, it's "possible" that the host (PC) "may" be dropping the connection.
As for the cables, I've used several brands without difficulties.
These work great: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07213D35X/
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Could there be something putting it to sleep on USB3 and not USB2? I have tested quite a bit and the only difference is 2.0 vs 3.0.
And samsung is sticking to ONLY samsung cables are supported. WHAT?!?!? They include a USB 2.0 cable and tell me THAT is what is supported on their 3.1 capable connection??? I am so close to just sending the damn thing back.
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It was just a thought, the only time I had trouble was before the factory reset, and I did set up all the auto sleeping stuff to help with battery(turns out I didn't need to). I always have used the Anker branded USB 3.1 3ft cords for transfer from pc to phone. They seem to give the best speeds .I never really tried to troubleshoot,using different cords,problem just went away.
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No.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/using-usb-c-to-3-0-3-1-cables-t3683599
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Two different, but related questions. First I asked if anyone was having problems. Very few replies. Next I was asking if anyone had success with 3.0/3.1, since Samsung is telling me they don't support any cable but their 2.0.
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And samsung is sticking to ONLY samsung cables are supported. WHAT?!?!? They include a USB 2.0 cable and tell me THAT is what is supported on their 3.1 capable connection??? I am so close to just sending the damn thing back.
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Samsung makes USB 3.1 cables. They were telling you to use those if you want USB 3. They would never, ever give tech support on random 3rd party accessories (especially with the glut of crappy Chinese ones), so asking them for help with other manufacturer's cables will be futile. They're not telling you to never use 3rd party cables, but that they can't possible troubleshoot every single random cable.
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Samsung makes USB 3.1 cables. They were telling you to use those if you want USB 3. They would never, ever give tech support on random 3rd party accessories (especially with the glut of crappy Chinese ones), so asking them for help with other manufacturer's cables will be futile. They're not telling you to never use 3rd party cables, but that they can't possible troubleshoot every single random cable.
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No one has told me where to find a samsung 3.0/3.1 cable. They are telling me, and giving me part numbers ONLY to the 2.0 cable that came with the phone. I specifically mentioned that they are telling me that I am restricted to 2.0 and no one is telling me how to get 3.0/3.1 speeds. I can understand them not supporting 3rd party cables, but USB is a standard, and I am testing with several different cables. I have ordered some expensive, since samsung has not, depite my request, given me a link/part number for a Samsun 3.0/3.1 cable, to see make sure it is not the cable. Right now it looks like it is the phone.
My Note 8 started dropping and picking up connection to usb with the original charger. I plug it in to charge and it connects and reconnects once and then fast charging is turned off or dropped and it doesn't fast charge anymore. I replug It in to see if I get a chance for it to get fast charging. It goes to regular charging. I don't see any damage in the port and have used 2 of the same cables. I will keep monitoring this event. Ive never had this happen to me before with S8+ and Note 7. It sucks because it charges so slow when it's not fast charging and I compared charging durations with my S8+ and it's charging slightly faster than My Note 8. I need more time seeing what's up with this. Help is welcome. Thank you.
I have tested with several cables and multiple manufacturers and multiple computers and cannot get a USB3.0/3.1 cable to keep a connection with the PC. USB 2.0 works fine.
I called Samsung and they are telling me that they only support the cable that came with the phone, which is a 2.0 cable. So they don't even support the 3.1 standard they advertise. I am about to return the phone over this. I have not found anyone else having this problem, but I have also not heard that anyone is using USB3 successfully either.
Yes I have success
I transferred over 7gb of data from a pc to a Note8 (sandisk 400gb Sd card) using a choetech USB c 3.1 gen 2 superspeed cable. The pc has superspeed ports (Alienware Area 51). Did not have any issue the two times ive connected the note 8 to a pc.
I have a type C to 3.1 type A cable from Anker, but have only used it on 3.0 ports on my laptop and desktop, definitely works super fast (even flashing the firmware with Odin - only takes a few seconds for the full package). I ordered 2 different cables though, one was apparently charging-only and didn't even work to fast charge.
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I transferred over 7gb of data from a pc to a Note8 (sandisk 400gb Sd card) using a choetech USB c 3.1 gen 2 superspeed cable. The pc has superspeed ports (Alienware Area 51). Did not have any issue the two times ive connected the note 8 to a pc.
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same here using usb 3.0 cables with this phone, ZERO issues
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I have a type C to 3.1 type A cable from Anker, but have only used it on 3.0 ports on my laptop and desktop, definitely works super fast (even flashing the firmware with Odin - only takes a few seconds for the full package). I ordered 2 different cables though, one was apparently charging-only and didn't even work to fast charge.
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I was planning to buy Anker Powerline Plus USB - C to USB A 3.0 cable. Isn't the cable good enough to fast charge the phone? Doesn't it charge as fast as the regular one (which came in the box) does? How much max current can be drawn using anker cable to charge note 8 and how much time does it takes to fully charge the device with anker cable compared to the original one?
Kindly provide these details, as I am confused whether to buy this cable or not.
TIA..
I have Trilink braided USB-C 3.1 cables that I bought on Amazon. They work perfect, super fast transfer speeds, and my phone charges the same as with the OEM cable that it comes with.
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I have tested with several cables and multiple manufacturers and multiple computers and cannot get a USB3.0/3.1 cable to keep a connection with the PC. USB 2.0 works fine.
I called Samsung and they are telling me that they only support the cable that came with the phone, which is a 2.0 cable. So they don't even support the 3.1 standard they advertise. I am about to return the phone over this. I have not found anyone else having this problem, but I have also not heard that anyone is using USB3 successfully either.
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Does your PC actually support USB 3.0+ and are the ports setup correctly? Too many motherboard manufacturers poorly implemented USB 3.0 on their rushed motherboard, and Microsoft had to suffer the long end by providing poorly patched drivers because the boards never had the proper port insulations.
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Does your PC actually support USB 3.0+ and are the ports setup correctly? Too many motherboard manufacturers poorly implemented USB 3.0 on their rushed motherboard, and Microsoft had to suffer the long end by providing poorly patched drivers because the boards never had the proper port insulations.
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I will look into this but one is a brand new Dell Latitude and the USB 3 worked on my desktop with my S5.
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Hi, I'm connected via the stock Samsung cable to a USB3.1 port running Windows 10 onto a fast Samsung NVMe internal drive. Latest Samsung drivers installed. Transfers from the phone (S10e SD) are averaging about 50MB/sec. I was expecting a lot higher speed. An SSD in USB 3.0 enclosure and good USB stick are transferring the same large files at 400+ & 200+, but the phone is barely above USB 2.0 speed. Am I missing something?
Sorry for the bump but i could confirm that the super tiny and short USB cable in the box is 2.0... I don´t understand why...It is that the cable was in the original S10 box otherwise i thought it was a cheap clone... It works great with USB 3.0 cables from Ugreen but you need to buy it by yourself...
I would assume you have USB 3.0 support on your computer if you have an NVME drive. If that's the case, have you checked the drivers for your USB slots that use 3.0 on your Windows 10 machine?
When you say transfer with other devices do you mean transferring to/from your phone or to/from your computer?
Yes, RyZen rig with properly functioning USB. SSD in a USB enclosure transfers same files at over 400MB/sec. Phone is slow in both directions. This is from internal storage, not micro SD. Hopefully this isn't "normal" for this device, I was looking forward to upgrading this speed over my USB 2.0 S7.
I tried another cable, same result. Then I ordered up some cables that were explicitly touted as USB 3.0 cables, and had blue connectors. Transfer speed jumped WAY up. It appears the cable Samsung provides is USB 2.0 only. Lame of Samsung to skimp out on the cheapest part in the box & make their flagship look bad in the process. Well, at least the stock cable will do fine as a car charging wire.