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I bought what i thought were a couple higher quality universal chargers. They charge my razr fast but won't charge my nexus 7 at all. I have one of the chargers pulled apart but before I do any soldering I want to make sure -- if I cross the 2 data points will it work?
Well I couldn't wait 10 minutes so I tried. Answer: no. Wtf?
Can anyone tell me how to hack these chargers to make them work? Is there a resistor I need to remove?
Isn't it more likely to be a software thing?
With my samsung Tab 7.7 i couldn't charge it using my ipad charger until a Dev modded the software on the tablet.
are they 2Amp chargers? most universal chargers are only 1Amp
Well whatever the problem is, I want to charge my tablet in more than one place, I want to charge it faster than the 16 hours generic chargers are taking, and I don't want to pay $30 for OEM chargers.
If your tablet is taking 16 hours to fully charge, return it. I can drain mine after heavy use of the day and its still fully charged in under 6 hours.
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@soldeus: There's nothing wrong with my tablet. The OEM charger works fine and some of my generic chargers work, they just don't have the current. (See below)
@vivan: They are 1A chargers, but they should still work. They don't charge at all. The 500ma Blackberry charger I'm using here at work will charge it in about 8 hours.
Ironically the move to almost-universal micro usb chargers has made the market for them even worse. Now, instead of having to buy a new charger every time you buy a new phone, you have to buy a dozen different chargers till you find one that actually works. Like I said, I didn't try to cheap out. I got a high quality charger.
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@soldeus: There's nothing wrong with my tablet. The OEM charger works fine and some of my generic chargers work, they just don't have the current. (See below)
@vivan: They are 1A chargers, but they should still work. They don't charge at all. The 500ma Blackberry charger I'm using here at work will charge it in about 8 hours.
Ironically the move to almost-universal micro usb chargers has made the market for them even worse. Now, instead of having to buy a new charger every time you buy a new phone, you have to buy a dozen different chargers till you find one that actually works. Like I said, I didn't try to cheap out. I got a high quality charger.
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The OEM charger is 2A for a reason. Because the tablet uses more power, it needs more current to charge at a fast pace.
Your generic 1A chargers are probably just enough to keep the tablet powered on, without draining (or charging) the battery.
If you can find a 2A universal charger, it should work just like the OEM one.
reiji said:
The OEM charger is 2A for a reason. Because the tablet uses more power, it needs more current to charge at a fast pace.
Your generic 1A chargers are probably just enough to keep the tablet powered on, without draining (or charging) the battery.
If you can find a 2A universal charger, it should work just like the OEM one.
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No, my 1A chargers are doing NOTHING at all. I plug it in and the charging icon doesn't come on. Reviews have tested these chargers at about 950ma and as I said, my 500ma Blackberry charger isn't too bad.. It's not lack of power, it's something else.
My guess is it has whatever resistor it needs to make it an "ipad" charger. And the vast majority of 2A chargers will, too.
So.. back to my original question: what do I need to do to make this charger charge my tablet? I KNOW it's possible. I just need to find the guy who can tell me how.
I also need a charger for my car, my usb power adapter in the car does not work, need to know what car charger will work as this tablet is supposed to be my car stereo replacement, sucks having to bring your stereo in to charge it and hope it lasts till you get done work
I bought the Scosche dual 10 Watt car charger, isn't here yet though. It does say it wont charge the Samsung tablets, maybe due to the proprietary cord because apparently there is a cord that works with them. It's not a specific ipad charger and does say it works with Android devices and tablets.
On a side note, what's the best way to determine what your N7 is actually charging at?
Both of my generic chargers won't work either, a 2.1A generic iPad charger, and a 1A standard USB charger. Considering it WILL charge off a 500ma USB port, it's not a current/amperage issue, it's a software/proprietary hardware issue.
b22ri22an said:
I also need a charger for my car, my usb power adapter in the car does not work, need to know what car charger will work as this tablet is supposed to be my car stereo replacement, sucks having to bring your stereo in to charge it and hope it lasts till you get done work
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I use a verizon branded car charger to charge my N7 but I think they charge $30 for it at the vzw store.
I suggest you read this page as it may have some info to help you modify your charger:
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/icharge.html
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I use a verizon branded car charger to charge my N7 but I think they charge $30 for it at the vzw store.
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the cost isn't so much the issue, its the actually working part. do they have one with an angled micro usb so i can mount the tablet in the car properly or preferably a usb adapter one where i can use my own cord
For $30 you could order a handful of different ones on ebay or monoprice and find something that works. But I want a dual charger.
grim82 said:
I suggest you read this page as it may have some info to help you modify your charger:
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/icharge.html
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does that mean a usb adapter that is certified to work with an ipad will work for my n7
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does that mean a usb adapter that is certified to work with an ipad will work for my n7
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I won't say 100% but I would bet the probability is very high. For the 1A charging they all seemed to play the same game with the voltage on the data lines. Not sure you'll get 2A but you'll at least get 1A.
Edit... maybe not, see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781680
I have a philips as351 audio dock that pushes 2A out of the micro-usb charger and the usb port on the back and neither will charge the N7. Bummer because it looks so nice on the dock to
I have numerous chargers at home all of which have charged my evo, gs2, Nexus 7, etc.
Can these be used interchangeable in the Note 2 without harming the charging process?
Thanks
As long as the Voltage is the same (5V) there is no Problem. But you should have a charger at 2 Amper for optimal charging speed.
I just tried charging mine with the normal microUSB charger I use for every other phone I have had and it took 7.5 hours to charge from 5%-62%. I used the stock charger that was in the box and it charged it in 3.5-4 hours no problem. Seems like the charger in the box charges faster.
reading this thread made me curious, my NOTE II should arrive in about a week, I can't tell for myself yet, what is the A (amps) specification mentioned on the original charger?
as i come from HTC, my current chargers go up to 1 A current. witch is the double A a standard USB port will give unless crossover'd .
thanks in advance!
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in the wiki thread i found the answer, the supplied charger delivers 5 V 2 A output to the device.
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what is the A (amps) specification mentioned on the original charger?
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2A! Same as the Tab 10.1 charger.
Filling a 3100mAh battery requires some grunt.
i think even the usb cable makes a difference..
when i use the stock usb cable with the stock charger ..my s3 would charge up comparatively faster than with the other usb cable connected to the same stock charger.:rolleyes
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i think even the usb cable makes a difference..
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It certainly does! :good:
All electrical cables have some resistance. Very low (but not zero) for quality cables, sometimes quite noticeable for thin and cheap offerings.
From Ohm's Law we know that voltage drop will be proportional to current. A cable with a resistance of just half an ohm will loose about 0.5% at 50mA. That's pretty much nothing. However, at 2000mA the loss reaches 20%.
dude use any charger, just don't use LG charger **** !!!!!
You must use the 5volt 2amp charger and cable provided or a replacement with the same output or youll either be waiting for ever for it to charge or do some damage.
I tryed using my note 1 charger rated at 1amp and guess what? It took about twice as long to charge.
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Some of my old 1 Amp chargers aren't happy at all, and will often decide to stop charging randomly.
I though it was something weird with my phone, but after switching chargers it never happened again.
- Frank
USA official charger
This are the images of the official USA charger that will comes when they release the device in USA
And yes its a 2.0A charger, so the SIII charger isn't appropriate for NoteII.
this is the kind of charger used in Canada, USA, and Latin America, i bought this NoteII in Mexico from an authorized Samsung provider, of course factory unlocked 710usd, like 10,900mxn.
Has anyone tried a 3A charger? Just wondering if this would speed up charging even more than the standard 2A charger.
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Has anyone tried a 3A charger? Just wondering if this would speed up charging even more than the standard 2A charger.
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No, it won't speed it up. It's what the device takes from a charger, and not what a charger can potentially supply. If the device's charging circuit is spec'd for up to 2A current, that's what it will suck out of a charger, not more. You can connect a 30A lab power supply, and it will still be the same 2A (or less) input. To speed up the charging process, you need to mod the charging circuit of the device itself.
Is there a way to tell whether you're charging with a Quick Charge 2.0 compatible adapter, vs a standard 2.0A fast charger? Maybe I'm missing something, but the Nexus 6 shows "Charging (AC)" either way.
I know that QC 2.0 requires that the data pins of the cable be intact, and if you plug in a charge-only cable it falls back to QC 1.0 (standard 5V, 2A charger). I'm looking to buy a couple QC 2.0 adapters, and it would be nice to be able to quickly tell if I got my money's worth WITHOUT having to drain my phone and time how long it takes to charge.
I noticed this too. My wife's Note 4 shows a message indicating that its charging via fast charger (aka quickcharge 2.0).
For our phone, I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full. If they are close to the same, then your good to go. At least this would save you having to fully discharge and time the recharge...
The easy way is to use the charger that came with the phone
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Is there a way to tell whether you're charging with a Quick Charge 2.0 compatible adapter, vs a standard 2.0A fast charger? Maybe I'm missing something, but the Nexus 6 shows "Charging (AC)" either way.
I know that QC 2.0 requires that the data pins of the cable be intact, and if you plug in a charge-only cable it falls back to QC 1.0 (standard 5V, 2A charger). I'm looking to buy a couple QC 2.0 adapters, and it would be nice to be able to quickly tell if I got my money's worth WITHOUT having to drain my phone and time how long it takes to charge.
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No indication.
but it is faster, I ran my 2.1a charger against it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-charge-time-test-moto-turbo-t2948176
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The easy way is to use the charger that came with the phone
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You'd think that, but accidentally plug the wrong cable into that charger, and you'll THINK it's quick-charging, but if that cable happens to be a charge-only cable, it will be locked to the 5V setting, which with the Moto charger, is at 1.6A. Besides, for some reason, the charger that came with my phone worn't fit in the little round charging hole in my car, so I'm looking to buy a QC 2.0 car charger. The point of my OP was that anyone can slap the words "Quick Charge" on their Amazon product page (especially since any 2A charger is technically a "Quick Charge 1.0" cable -- even if the ad says 2.0, well, that's just a typo -- should have said 1.0... oops!), and I'm looking for a way to quickly test the product I receive.
@TheSopranos16, Good suggestion about waiting for the "...until fully charged" message pops up. I'll have to test that to see if it really does show a different time that quickly with a QC 2.0 adapter. Still, it's something that the Note 4 can see, so I'm thinking it's something that an App should be able to see. I briefly looked, but didn't find one. I was kind of hoping someone else had.
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You'd think that, but accidentally plug the wrong cable into that charger, and you'll THINK it's quick-charging, but if that cable happens to be a charge-only cable, it will be locked to the 5V setting, which with the Moto charger, is at 1.6A. Besides, for some reason, the charger that came with my phone worn't fit in the little round charging hole in my car, so I'm looking to buy a QC 2.0 car charger. The point of my OP was that anyone can slap the words "Quick Charge" on their Amazon product page (especially since any 2A charger is technically a "Quick Charge 1.0" cable -- even if the ad says 2.0, well, that's just a typo -- should have said 1.0... oops!), and I'm looking for a way to quickly test the product I receive.
@TheSopranos16, Good suggestion about waiting for the "...until fully charged" message pops up. I'll have to test that to see if it really does show a different time that quickly with a QC 2.0 adapter. Still, it's something that the Note 4 can see, so I'm thinking it's something that an App should be able to see. I briefly looked, but didn't find one. I was kind of hoping someone else had.
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Well i used my N5 cable that came with the charger and didn't even notice the difference, changed back to the moto one because i don't like the glossy look on the LG one.
By any chance you tried using your cable in your car?? Did it charged?? I tried to use mine in my car and didn't work, I got a 2014 corolla maybe it's because of the small battery in the car, I really dunno. It's weird.
Yes I too would like to know what charges and cords work correctly...
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I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full.
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UPDATE: Okay, this worked... sort of. Well, it definitely worked, but it wasn't quite so simple. My phone was at about 71% charge, and I put it on the Moto Turbo Charger. A minute later, it said it had about 25 minutes remaining for a full charge. I removed it, and placed it on my Nexus 7 charger (which, incidentally, is only a 1.2A charger, but it proved the point). It took over 5 minutes to show the "charge complete in..." message, in which it indicated it would take over two hours. I guess, you could consider the extended wait time a sign, but something NOT happening is always a really bad way to prove something. Still, once it DID show, 25m vs 2h is definitely a good measure.
The weird thing is... it took about 5 minutes to show that message on the 1.2A charger, during which, the charge increased from 71% to 74%. Assuming a similar 3% increase every 5 minutes, it should reach its full charge in about 45 minutes, not the two hours it stated. Since this was only a 1.2A charger, a 2A charger could do it in almost half that time, or about the 25 minutes that was initially reported. Still, I was at 71%, and at that level, the Turbo Charger may not shift into 9V or 12V modes, so I guess that seemed about right.
I'd still like to see an app that could tell me instantly or, at least, within a few seconds, but this is definitely an alternative. Although, you still really need to test it while the battery is pretty low, but at least it stops the necessity to time a full charge.
smoke this app over:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro
Been using it since my moto xoom days (2011). bullet proof.
marctronixx said:
smoke this app over:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro
Been using it since my moto xoom days (2011). bullet proof.
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Great app. I use the free version just to check battery flow: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
TheSopranos16 said:
I noticed this too. My wife's Note 4 shows a message indicating that its charging via fast charger (aka quickcharge 2.0).
For our phone, I would suggest just plugging it into a known working quickcharge 2.0 charger, like the one that came with the phone. Wait 1 min until it shows the time until full. Then switch to your new charger, wait a min, and compare the time remaining until full. If they are close to the same, then your good to go. At least this would save you having to fully discharge and time the recharge...
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You could monitor the charger output with a USB voltage and current meter. For regular charging the adapter output will stay at ~5 V. For Quick Charge 2.0 the adapter output voltage level will go to ~9 V. Just make sure that the USB power meter supports at least up to 9 V (better 13 V) and 2 A. It also needs to have the data lines. Here's one that would work (supports up to 10 V and up to 3 A): http://goo.gl/3OoD3D
Cheers.
Op, just look at the charger specs, by law the wallwart should have a power rating blurb printed on it. Quick charge 2.0 will have variable voltage as well as amperage. 1.0 will only crank the amperage, but not the voltage
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Op, just look at the charger specs, by law the wallwart should have a power rating blurb printed on it. Quick charge 2.0 will have variable voltage as well as amperage. 1.0 will only crank the amperage, but not the voltage
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Alas, car chargers... not so much.
i use and watch the current widget. the nexus 6 default charger has nearly 2450mV coming in at a certain point of its charging cycle! no other charger will do that for you, i dont think.
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the current widget https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget
op brings up a very good point that i didnt realize before. on my note 4, when you plug in the nexus 6 moto turbo charger or any other quick charge 2.0 charger a window pops up explaining adaptive fast charging. you can dismiss it and make it never show up again. you also get an "adaptive fast charger connected" notification in the notification bar. these are very good things. on nexus 6? nothing...
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Alas, car chargers... not so much.
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Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
Skripka said:
Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
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yes
http://www.verizonwireless.com/acce...er-with-fast-charge-technology-for-micro-usb/
Skripka said:
Are there any quick charge 2.0 car chargers? I'd thing you simply hit the power ceiling of the cigarette lighter before getting close.
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Actually, most vehicle power outlets have a 10A or 20A fuse (cigarette lighters tend to be on the lower end, while power outlets tend to be on the upper end), and operate at 12V. Even at the lower 10A range, that's 120W of power. Traditional USB Car adapters step that down to 5V at up to 2A, or about 10W of power. The QC. 2.0 standard allows for 3A at 5V, 9V, or 12V, for a maximum of 15W, 27W, or 36W respectively. That's well below what your car can handle. Not to mention that none of the existing adapters even come close to that amperage. Most that I've seen only run at 5V or 9V, at 1.67A. That only 15W at 9V.
So... to answer your question. Yes, QC 2.0 vehicle adapters exist (check out Amazon), and no, they won't even come close to hitting the power ceiling of your car's cigarette lighter / power outlet.
Ooh! I like that Verizon car adapter. That LED at the connector would really come in handy! Thanks, @indianajonze!
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You could monitor the charger output with a USB voltage and current meter. For regular charging the adapter output will stay at ~5 V. For Quick Charge 2.0 the adapter output voltage level will go to ~9 V. Just make sure that the USB power meter supports at least up to 9 V (better 13 V) and 2 A. It also needs to have the data lines. Here's one that would work (supports up to 10 V and up to 3 A): http://goo.gl/3OoD3D
Cheers.
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You can also use an AC meter such as Kill a Watt
http://www.p3international.com/products/p4400.html
Which might be more useful to have around the house. You should see the charger drawing about 5W for standard 1A USB charger, 10W for 2A and up to 14-15W for turbo. The battery widgets others have mentioned work great too.
Has anyone had issues using Anker PowerIQ chargers with the Nexus 5X? I've purchased an Anker 2nd Gen Astro E4 13000mAh 2-Port (3A Output) and when connected to the Nexus 5X it keeps connecting and disconnecting. It does not appear to be a cable issue (my old 2A charger works fine through the same cable). Meanwhile the Anker charges the old Nexus 5 without any issue - it's just the Nexus 5X that seems to experience problems.
I'm wondering whether it's Anker's PowerIQ having trouble working out the correct power draw for the Nexus 5X. If anyone's had similar issues with PowerIQ or other chargers, I'd love to hear potential fixes or confirmation that I'll need to switch it out for something else.
I have encountered the exact same issue with the Anker Astro E4 battery. At first I figured it was the cheap Aliexpress USB-A to C cable I was using, but I think you're onto something about the PowerIQ not knowing how to negotiate with the 5X correctly. I contacted Anker Support on Twitter yesterday and was told to contact [email protected] about the issue. I haven't yet pursued that avenue, but I'll update once I have.
I don't think I have any issue with my PowerIQ non-quick charging 6 port desktop charger or 2-port battery park (15600 mah)
I have the same issue with my Nexus 5X. After I posted a negative review due to this on Amazon, Anker reached out to me and has shipped one of their 4 port chargers which they think will resolve the issue. We shall see...
It still could be a cable issue. The difference is that your Anker may contain smarter charging tech inside and it is self regulating what the cable is asking for (possibly 3A) when it cant really deliver that. With your other charger, it is possible it is blindly delivering an overcharge for its rated max and may brown out soon if not over time.
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It still could be a cable issue. The difference is that your Anker may contain smarter charging tech inside and it is self regulating what the cable is asking for (possibly 3A) when it cant really deliver that. With your other charger, it is possible it is blindly delivering an overcharge for its rated max and may brown out soon if not over time.
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In my case, I'm 99% certain it's not the cable, as I'm using an OEM / Google A->C cable.
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In my case, I'm 99% certain it's not the cable, as I'm using an OEM / Google A->C cable.
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Does fast charging display with that cable?
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Does fast charging display with that cable?
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I honestly don't know, as I don't have an OEM type A wall charger to test it with. I would assume so, since it came from Google. I did receive Anker's 4 port car charger last night, but need to wait until this evening commute (once my battery drains) to see whether it works. Plugging it in this morning showed just "charging" when I was at 98%, but it wasn't cutting in and out like the 2 port one was.
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I honestly don't know, as I don't have an OEM type A wall charger to test it with. I would assume so, since it came from Google. I did receive Anker's 4 port car charger last night, but need to wait until this evening commute (once my battery drains) to see whether it works. Plugging it in this morning showed just "charging" when I was at 98%, but it wasn't cutting in and out like the 2 port one was.
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My OEM cable is on its way as well. If you get a chance to test it on a different charger later on, please post the results. I would love to see that OEM cable say "charging rapidly."
Followup: I tested the Anker 4 port charger with the OEM Google A->C cable, and it does register as "charging rapidly." Using Ampere, I measured 1340 mA / 4.08 V peak to it. I also tested my new Tronsmart charger (with built-in USB C cable), which measured 1710 mA / 3.903 V peak.
I have same disconnect issues with aukey quickcharge battery pack
After a little back and forth with Anker email support, they are sending me an Anker PowerCore+ 10050 USB-C Battery Pack as a replacement for the Astro E2 not charging the 5x correctly - at no charge! Very impressed. It's been shipped but I haven't received it yet - from what I can tell spec-wise it has native USB Type C and A ports, but I can't yet confirm if this can fast charge the 5x at the same output as the stock wall charger.
I'll report back once I've had time to test.
sounds like an combo issue of the cable and battery pack/charger.
have you guys seen the thread about a google engineer (benson leung) reviewing usb -c cables?
basically usb-c standard cables should have a resistor in them which the phone uses to detect if the charger is able to supply 3A or not. without this (most cables seem to not have this, including the oneplus one) the phone thinks it can draw 3A and tries to do so. this can result in damaging you charger as that is more than it can produce. but apparently it can also damage components in your phone as the current it thinks it is receiving is higher than the actual current being received.
The disconnection issue sounds like the charger has a protection mechanism and realizes the phone is trying to draw more power than it can provide, so it cuts off to prevent overloading.
I tried the PowerDrive 2 and it has the same isse where it charges for a few seconds, stops, then charges for a few seconds, etc. I emailed thier support but have not heard back.
I have the same issue with Aukey PA-12, tried two different cables. The charger works fine with my wife's quick charging phone.... I hope it is a kernel issue that can be fixed. The original Google charger works flawlessly.
I know the x3 original cable is 3a, but I don't have that anymore.
What I use is 6a cable from oneplus phone and some 3a source that come with extension cord.
Is that alright?
Just this morning I happened to try 3 different cables (factory+2) on two different chargers (none of which the original) -- all of them caused the phone to report turbo-charging...
FYI, I'm on custom RROS 8.6.9. But I'd advise to throttle charging back to at least 90% to extend battery life, BTW.
Guys, even some cheap cable can handle over 5A, i've tested 3 different cables and all pass through, no heat, no problem
All tested with Ampere app.
i dont know why but my phone is with genuine charger and only gets to 950mah charging - amepere
zenug said:
Guys, even some cheap cable can handle over 5A, i've tested 3 different cables and all pass through, no heat, no problem
All tested with Ampere app.
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What about 2m cable though? Do I need one rated for fast charging?
For me an old qualcom 2.0 charger + original cable work the best. Somewhat slower than the original charger, but the accu lasts longer.