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Hi to all
Just ordered a new EVA-AL00 from eBay last night. I am living in Canada. May I know which charger I should order to take advantage of the quick charging capability of the P9 ?
Is P9 using QC 2.0 or 3.0 ?
Please kindly advise ASAP.
gomcse2002 said:
Hi to all
Just ordered a new EVA-AL00 from eBay last night. I am living in Canada. May I know which charger I should order to take advantage of the quick charging capability of the P9 ?
Is P9 using QC 2.0 or 3.0 ?
Please kindly advise ASAP.
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P9 doesn't support fast charging
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Akhayev said:
P9 doesn't support fast charging
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HI
wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working
anyone who can provide a link to where i can buy one with an eu plug?
I'm considering buying this phone over the S7 (although still undecided) and I still don't get the battery thing (charging or battery life, I get people telling me all sorts of contradictory things that I'm having a hard time to fact check). That 9V/2A charger doesn't come with the phone, right? How much faster is that Huawei charger compared with the 5V that comes with the phone and what is it called since I can't find it on their site or anywhere? Is that the Mate 8 charger?
Yes it's mate 8 charger
Отправлено с моего EVA-L09 через Tapatalk
raber111 said:
Yes it's mate 8 charger
Отправлено с моего EVA-L09 через Tapatalk
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Cheers! :good:
scedric57 said:
HI
wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working
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Awesome! I need an Australian version of this, what do i search for; is it just a mate 8 charger?
Well, no EU plug still available. But it will be later I think. It is not QC 2 or 3, it won't work. Search for "Huawei 9V 2A Charger".
The result should be like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-9V...hash=item280f7d97a4:m:mNQwKZr7I5KHReS9CA2RwkA
As I metioned, no EU plug yet, so via adapter only.
Milamber said:
Awesome! I need an Australian version of this, what do i search for; is it just a mate 8 charger?
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Perhaps this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ori...-2A-FAST-AC-Wall-Travel-Charger-/351744631869 (NB I haven't tried it)
tnhh said:
Perhaps this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Ori...-2A-FAST-AC-Wall-Travel-Charger-/351744631869 (NB I haven't tried it)
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Perfect, he had 3 and I nailed 2 of them
Hopefully these will quick charge.
Please post results!
The photo shows it is 5V 2A charger, so it is a standart, not a Huawei Quick Charge (9V 2A).
scedric57 said:
HI
wrong! fast charging is supported by huawei fast charger
but only with this charger i tryed with asus 5v2A/ 9v2A but dont working
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Just a quick question, what's the charging time with that charger? Does it go below the 2 hours for a full charge?
Kutusov said:
Just a quick question, what's the charging time with that charger? Does it go below the 2 hours for a full charge?
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hi i never look before
i just charge now at 21h59 and 46% i will post the result at 100%
Edit: 100% at 23h02 ( 54% in 1h00 approximatly) but when i have the time i will try a full charge because the fast charge is more active at the start and midle of charging
With this Aukey charger I got from 5 to 95% in about 90 minutes
ladxxdal said:
With this Aukey charger I got from 5 to 95% in about 90 minutes
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Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery
scedric57 said:
Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery
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to be confirmed
scedric57 said:
Aukey isn't compatible hisilicon fast charge
Aukey charge at 5V 2.5A no regulation so peraphs no good for the live of the battery
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It's fine, it will charge as a standard charger at 5V. I would have to brush up my Ohm's law but I don't even get why Huawei's standard charger on the P9 has 2 Amp electric current value. What matters is the voltage going into the battery and you don't need a 2 Amp charger to give you 5 volts, a regular 1amp will be able to do that. The only difference I know is that 5V at 1 amp are 5 watts and 5V at 2 amps are 10 W. But that has only to do with resistance, I think, a battery isn't fed on watts?
I'm really on the fence about this fast charging thing now. I never got it. Qualcomm's has its QC 2.0 tech but a Motorola charger is faster than any other. An S7 Edge with amuch bigger battery charges as fast as an HTC 10 and the Edge has a 2.0 QC and the HTC is 3.0. The G5 is also 3.0 and charges way faster than the HTC, even compensating for the different battery capacity. And I own a G2 which has no fast charging at all and will charge from 0 to 100% in less than 2 hours on a 5V generic charger, which isn't very far off the times I see with 3000mah batteries and Quick Charge 2.0 or 3.0... Why these differences?? No idea... Somehow I think battery chemistry has a lot to do with it (it does in the RC and electronic cigarette world) but I never see anyone addressing that.
^^^^sorry for the rambling, just thinking/writing out loud
Kutusov said:
It's fine, it will charge as a standard charger at 5V. I would have to brush up my Ohm's law but I don't even get why Huawei's standard charger on the P9 has 2 Amp electric current value. What matters is the voltage going into the battery and you don't need a 2 Amp charger to give you 5 volts, a regular 1amp will be able to do that. The only difference I know is that 5V at 1 amp are 5 watts and 5V at 2 amps are 10 W. But that has only to do with resistance, I think, a battery isn't fed on watts?
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Nearly right! A little analogy may help... Think of Voltage (V) as the diameter of the water tap, Ampage (A) as the speed of the water through the tap and Wattage (W) as how quick you want the bath the taps are filling!
So you can see, a small diameter tap but high water speed will still not fill bath very quickly, neither will a big diameter tap and slow water speed...you need both together. So 9V2A should charge quicker than 5V2A (18W compared to 10W).
As I understand it the P9 will accept charging at 9V and 2A (their Fast Charging) giving max 18W input so a 9V2A charger should give the best results (which is what the P8's fast charger is)...and what the qualcomm quick charge 2.0 (and 3.0) spec can provide. Now i'm not saying the P9 is a qualcomm quick charge phone, it's not, but my QC2.0 and 3.0 car chargers certainly charge my phone quicker than the included mains charger! So i suspect that the car chargers are providing 9V2A to the phone.
Whether this means any 9V2A charger would do......I don't know
Just got one used nexus 6 from ebay, but I found it charges very slow and the ampere shows the charging current is only about 200 ma. I think there must be some problems with the hardware, but I do not have a quick charger and was charging with my normal charger. Can anyone tell me will it help if I buy a quick charger now?
wbydszq said:
Just got one used nexus 6 from ebay, but I found it charges very slow and the ampere shows the charging current is only about 200 ma. I think there must be some problems with the hardware, but I do not have a quick charger and was charging with my normal charger. Can anyone tell me will it help if I buy a quick charger now?
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The Google quick charger (2500mA) can boost/quick charge by raising the voltage to 9 or 12 volt.
That boost works only with compatible chargers and when the battery is charged below 70%.
A good way of charging is wireless. Every usb charger and a cheap QIpad will work.
Hi ! I had 2 charger for my Oneplus 3 and cable usb type -c ( I had 3 cable usb type-c ugreen too but no charger)
Can I use my Dash charger with my mi 8 ? I had buy a mi 8 and receive it tomorrow global version with EU charger but don't know wich charger it Qc 3.0 or 4.0 ? And with my oneplus Dash charge is 5v 4amp can work on mi 8 or do buy another charger ? Thank you
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Hi ! I had 2 charger for my Oneplus 3 and cable usb type -c ( I had 3 cable usb type-c ugreen too but no charger)
Can I use my Dash charger with my mi 8 ? I had buy a mi 8 and receive it tomorrow global version with EU charger but don't know wich charger it Qc 3.0 or 4.0 ? And with my oneplus Dash charge is 5v 4amp can work on mi 8 or do buy another charger ? Thank you
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it will charge at normal speed. I tried myself with original oneplus car dash charger, no fast charging for Mi8.
lockmunk said:
it will charge at normal speed. I tried myself with original oneplus car dash charger, no fast charging for Mi8.
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Ok thanks. I can use it no mistake but slow. I think buy a qc 3 or 4 it's good. For car I have too dash car and it's so good I loose it. I have car charger qc 2 or 3 I don't know.
Thanks
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DASH charger is good for OP, strange for others. Highly not recommended to use DASH on other devices than OP
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Why not?
It is a very good 5V charger, with Xiaomi you can expect up to 2A current, not more. Perfectly safe to charge anything, however not quickest charging option for others.
Rommco05 said:
RIP battery. Do u think it is good charging phone with no original charger? Especially with OP DASH
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Bull*hit....
Dash charging just doesnt work on mi8, normal charge will not cause any damage on any other phone or their battery.
you do not necessarily need a original charger from your phone manufacturer.
The phone negotiate how much power the battery gets not the charger ... the charger slows down the load balance to 2,4A (2,4A*5V=12W)
With a 2,4A output you'll reach ~12W at peak due to cable limitations you'll get 10w
QC 3.0 reach ~ 18 watt on peak with variable voltage and ampere steps. (3,6 - 20v)
Same on Dash Charge, Dash uses variable voltage and ampere steps like QC but doubles the charging lanes.
You can charge your phone with any charger you get, the worst you can get is slower charging speed.
tomsag said:
Why not?
It is a very good 5V charger, with Xiaomi you can expect up to 2A current, not more. .
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Bull****, the original MI 8 charge is QC 3.0 and I'm getting up to 3.3A on it.
It's very fast..
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Flash-User said:
Bull*hit....
Dash charging just doesnt work on mi8, normal charge will not cause any damage on any other phone or their battery.
you do not necessarily need a original charger from your phone manufacturer.
The phone negotiate how much power the battery gets not the charger ... the charger slows down the load balance to 2,4A (2,4A*5V=12W)
With a 2,4A output you'll reach ~12W at peak due to cable limitations you'll get 10w
QC 3.0 reach ~ 18 watt on peak with variable voltage and ampere steps. (3,6 - 20v)
Same on Dash Charge, Dash uses variable voltage and ampere steps like QC but doubles the charging lanes.
You can charge your phone with any charger you get, the worst you can get is slower charging speed.
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What he said.
Rommco05 said:
I see, probably u never heard about optimization, calibration and testing btw and that's isn't about fast or slow charging
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OKay its just your opinion but my opinion is you have no insight in electrical topics or the insight of such an charger.
optimization - the charger doesn't overcharge or use an overvoltage on your phone when its not support their specific fast charge technology it simply slow down to 5v - max. 2.4A, these charging speed will never cause any damage on your phone.
its just simple: an QC phone doesnt use the benefits of SuperCharge technology or Dash Charge and vize versa....
And trust me i've done more calibration and testing in USB charging topics and their different Charging tecnologys as you think (mobile batterys, chargers and so on).
I had several phones and several chargers and compared nearly all of them (QC, FastCharge, VOOC) and there is absolutely nothing dangerous to charge a phone with a QC charger if it is a supercharge phone.
But .... you ever can prove the contrary. I'll never stop learning but you have to tell me some facts.
hello xda..i just bought a new 27wat charger brick..i dontknow iff this charger legit 27wat xiaomi charger or not..is there any way i can check it real or not?i buy it from shopee..is there any way i can check it on apps or anything?sorry bad english..https://m.imgur.com/a/KeUVI6R
27 watt charger says charge turbo when it's plugged in.
xNovaLeader said:
hello xda..i just bought a new 27wat charger brick..i dontknow iff this charger legit 27wat xiaomi charger or not..is there any way i can check it real or not?i buy it from shopee..is there any way i can check it on apps or anything?sorry bad english..https://m.imgur.com/a/KeUVI6R
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Check it with this app. It should be about 4600mA if it's original.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
I took some screenshot with stock charger and 27W charger.
You could also check this video.
https://youtu.be/xx-P6BxZzkU
Kollachi said:
Check it with this app. It should be about 4600mA if it's original.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
I took some screenshot with stock charger and 27W charger.
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thanks for the answers..seems like my charger is original xiaomi 27wat..
It's almost 5A. Does it with on passive usb cable?
I wanted to know if this phone supports usb power delivery. It can be seen that it supports qc 4, but is power delivery possible?
allajagat said:
I wanted to know if this phone supports usb power delivery. It can be seen that it supports qc 4, but is power delivery possible?
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It does work. I've used it to charge other phones, power my chess board, and charge a controller.
deekjx said:
It does work. I've used it to charge other phones, power my chess board, and charge a controller.
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So what is the charging speed and charging time with pd compared to 18w charger and 30w charger?
allajagat said:
So what is the charging speed and charging time with pd compared to 18w charger and 30w charger?
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When I charge the ROG Phone II using my Mate 10 Pro, i get a rate of 0.91 amps. When I charge my Mate 10 pro with the ROG Phone II, I get 0.48 amps.
ROG Phone 2 => 0.48 amps => Mate 10 Pro
ROG Phone 2 <= 0.91 amps <= Mate 10 Pro
edit: I should add I took these measurements with an inline external meter.
deekjx said:
When I charge the ROG Phone II using my Mate 10 Pro, i get a rate of 0.91 amps. When I charge my Mate 10 pro with the ROG Phone II, I get 0.48 amps.
ROG Phone 2 => 0.48 amps => Mate 10 Pro
ROG Phone 2 <= 0.91 amps <= Mate 10 Pro
edit: I should add I took these measurements with an inline external meter.
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I'm sorry but i don't know what these numbers mean. Can you please explain in layman terms? Or just the time taken for full charge using pd.
allajagat said:
I'm sorry but i don't know what these numbers mean. Can you please explain in layman terms? Or just the time taken for full charge using pd.
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USB is about 5 volts which makes 0.91 amps about 4.55 watts and 0.48amps about 2.4 watts. You multiply the amps and the volts to get the watts.
allajagat said:
I wanted to know if this phone supports usb power delivery. It can be seen that it supports qc 4, but is power delivery possible?
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I think I miss understood what you were asking. You want to know if I used a charger using the USB PD standard to charge the Rog Phone II. I have not tested or tried this. What I tested was using the Rog Phone II to deliver power to other devices via its USB port.
Lol
The charger that comes with the phone, isn't that PD?
the 30W charger that comes with the phone is a QC4.0 PD3.0 charger that charges at 10v 3 amp if I'm not mistaken? I don't have the charger.
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I think I miss understood what you were asking. You want to know if I used a charger using the USB PD standard to charge the Rog Phone II. I have not tested or tried this. What I tested was using the Rog Phone II to deliver power to other devices via its USB port.
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Oh my.. That's why i was so confused.
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Lol
The charger that comes with the phone, isn't that PD?
the 30W charger that comes with the phone is a QC4.0 PD3.0 charger that charges at 10v 3 amp if I'm not mistaken? I don't have the charger.
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Oh.. Is it? I too am unaware of it. I myself ordered a PD charger from china thinking it would work, so asked the question
allajagat said:
Oh.. Is it? I too am unaware of it. I myself ordered a PD charger from china thinking it would work, so asked the question
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Yes Sir!
The Asus 30Watt that comes with the phone is a QC4.0 PD3.0 compatible charger
I think the charging block has to be capable of charging in 200mv increments. If it only does 9v or 12v, we won't get that max charge I think, because to get to 30 watts, the phone needs to draw at 10 volts
The new blocks allow for variable voltage in 200mv increments I think , which the phone needs to pull. But if the block says QC4.0 but only supports 9v or 12v and nothing in between, then it won't work, it looks like
I have spent a lot of time with these charging blocks as you can tell hahaha
stealthj said:
Yes Sir!
The Asus 30Watt that comes with the phone is a QC4.0 PD3.0 compatible charger
I think the charging block has to be capable of charging in 200mv increments. If it only does 9v or 12v, we won't get that max charge I think, because to get to 30 watts, the phone needs to draw at 10 volts
The new blocks allow for variable voltage in 200mv increments I think , which the phone needs to pull. But if the block says QC4.0 but only supports 9v or 12v and nothing in between, then it won't work, it looks like
I have spent a lot of time with these charging blocks as you can tell hahaha
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I ordered this one (
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/KFk8OCTO) along with type c to type c cable with 3A support. So will it work with ROG 2?
allajagat said:
I ordered this one (
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/KFk8OCTO) along with type c to type c cable with 3A support. So will it work with ROG 2?
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I'm not sure, it does not say 10volts. You will be able to see if it says 10 volts or 3 amps because it says that is has a display on it... the description says 9v or 12v, bu it also says automatically adjust current to your phone and that's the way QC4.0 works so hopefully it works!
Let us know!!
stealthj said:
Yes Sir!
The Asus 30Watt that comes with the phone is a QC4.0 PD3.0 compatible charger
I think the charging block has to be capable of charging in 200mv increments. If it only does 9v or 12v, we won't get that max charge I think, because to get to 30 watts, the phone needs to draw at 10 volts
The new blocks allow for variable voltage in 200mv increments I think , which the phone needs to pull. But if the block says QC4.0 but only supports 9v or 12v and nothing in between, then it won't work, it looks like
I have spent a lot of time with these charging blocks as you can tell hahaha
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Keep in mind that the Asus charger is 30W but only 25W is for the phone and 5W is reserved for accessories.
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Keep in mind that the Asus charger is 30W but only 25W is for the phone and 5W is reserved for accessories.
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So what does that mean? Does that mean the draw from the power block to the phone will be 10 volts at 2.5 amps? Or will it still draw the 30 watts? or Only draw the 30 watts when there is an accessory connected?
Can you elaborate what happens in this case?
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So what does that mean? Does that mean the draw from the power block to the phone will be 10 volts at 2.5 amps? Or will it still draw the 30 watts? or Only draw the 30 watts when there is an accessory connected?
Can you elaborate what happens in this case?
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Think of it as 25W is the max charging speed for the battery. But, as the charger has 5W more it will be passed through to the accessories when they are connected to the phone .
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Think of it as 25W is the max charging speed for the battery. But, as the charger has 5W more it will be passed through to the accessories when they are connected to the phone .
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At 58% battery I get 9.31v at 2.51 amps for a total of 23.36 watts with the stock charger. It might be higher at a lower battery level.
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At 58% battery I get 9.31v at 2.51 amps for a total of 23.36 watts with the stock charger. It might be higher at a lower battery level.
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Every phone will charge the battery higher at 0% and then slow down as you approach 100%. So that is normal!
allajagat said:
I wanted to know if this phone supports usb power delivery. It can be seen that it supports qc 4, but is power delivery possible?
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I've connected it to the Apple Macbook Pro charger (60W one? ) and it chrged normally with 15W fast charge icon.
I want to ask dose the rog phone support QC 3.0?
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I want to ask dose the rog phone support QC 3.0?
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Yes, it will be fine, it'll just charge a little slower, but that's not really a bad thing