Hi,
I'm in the market for a well priced dual sim android phone. After a bit of research I think I might settle with the moto g 2014 dual sim because of it's excellent after sales ota update support and large custom rom comunity. I'm fairly new to android (havent owned an android phone before) thus I would like to ask two questions if anyone cares to help me.
I have seen relatives with a samsung galaxy s5 boasting about their "ultra power saving mode" which enables them to use their device for 16 days+ rather than the normal 16-24hrs as with most smartphones today. My previous phone was a dual sim nokia with a standby time of 61 days, so this ability of the new samsung is very attractive to me. My questions are:
1) Is there something simmilar to samsungs ultra power saving mode which can be obtained through the modding comunity?
If not, is there a ability for me to build a custom ultra power saving rom (black and white screen, no apps, only calling and texting, email and camera), because I really dont care for anything else.
2) if none of the above is possibe with the moto g 2014 dual sim, is there any other dual sim android phone that you would rather advise me to look at.
Thank you for your time
Ps I have university coding background
Does anybody know which sensor does the P10 use? Is it the same Sony IMX286 in the P9 or a newer one?
Google did not came up with anything...
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IMX286 (12M color) and IMX350 (20M mono)
front may be IMX319
someone goes to customer service center and get this report
Are you sure it's from the Huawei P10. The P10 is supposed to have lpddr4 ram. And i think that the IMX319 is a 22 mp sensor.
ClausG76 said:
Are you sure it's from the Huawei P10. The P10 is supposed to have lpddr4 ram. And i think that the IMX319 is a 22 mp sensor.
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1. it seems no other phone use IMX 319
2. lpddr4 is just a "supposed" .
now ,in china huafans club ,many users test and find it to be lpddr3
test method refer to this post
forum.xda-developers.com/p10/help/test-flash-androbench-5-t3590297
install Terminal Emulator，input：
cat proc/ddr_rod
Hi,
I'm evaluating buying this phone but I would like to use for low light photography among several things. I read an article saying, on the P9, that shutter speeds go from 1/4000 down to 30 secs. Is this also equal in the P10? Because nobody says those specs of min and max shutter speeds and in one page I found it doesn't get too low values, and I wonder if Huawei lowered the specs form P9 to P10. This is appart from Light Painting which I understand is a software mode.
Could someone with this phone give me this information of speeds?
Many thanks!
Leandro.
leandrop80 said:
Hi,
I'm evaluating buying this phone but I would like to use for low light photography among several things. I read an article saying, on the P9, that shutter speeds go from 1/4000 down to 30 secs. Is this also equal in the P10? Because nobody says those specs of min and max shutter speeds and in one page I found it doesn't get too low values, and I wonder if Huawei lowered the specs form P9 to P10. This is appart from Light Painting which I understand is a software mode.
Could someone with this phone give me this information of speeds?
Many thanks!
Leandro.
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P10/10 Plus have:
* Shutter speed 1/4000 -> 30
* ISO 50 -> 3200
* 3 lighting measuring modes
paul678 said:
P10/10 Plus have:
* Shutter speed 1/4000 -> 30
* ISO 50 -> 3200
* 3 lighting measuring modes
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Excellent information!!
Thanks Paul!
Also
P10 has ois
P9 doesn't have ois
Since you are interested in low light photography
I don't normally comment on phones but this is my first Huawei phone (I did have a Huawei watch a few years ago). Despite the relatively hard to obtain device in North America, the*Mate 20 RS*is the most technically advanced phone out there and in 2019 I expect Huawei to continue their technical lead. I have resisted using Huawei phones in the past (partially due to potentially security concerns but also with other phones being better - from my perspective). However the P20 earlier in 2018 was tempting but the Porsche Design version of the Mate 20 Pro was irresistible, especially as I fortunate enough to be able to obtain one at an airport store (far below the high prices eBay is currently showing).
Quick Review*
Overall the Mate 20 RS is fast, highly configurable and a joy to use and look at. The battery life is the best I have ever had on any device (without a supplementary battery case). Moreover I am on the Dec 2018 security release of Android Pie (so Huawei seems to be keeping up to date).*
I had an issue with the Summit 2 after I upgraded to Android 9.0 (on my prior device).* This was sufficiently concerning that I started to look for a new phone as I suspected it was specific to Android 9.0 on my specific phone. The battery drain on the Summit 2 was severely reduced from Android 8.0 to 9.0 (on the same phone). On Android 8 (same phone) the Summit 2 battery life was OK.*
After switching to the Mate 20 RS, the battery on the Summit 2 has been really good. I can't really explain it other than potential differences in Android 9.0 and bluetooth. Regardless I am very happy with the battery life of the Summit 2 with the Mate 20 RS!
A Developer's Perspective
As a developer I did find a few things:
Hooking up to ADB on my Surface Laptop 2 was not immediate. Huawei does things differently - including default options.
Notification Lister Service - Specific to Huawei phones I had a heck of a time every time I updated my app (while debugging). I was able to implement a manual workaround but Huawei seemed to behave differently than other Android phones. Interestingly, in their latest .171 firmware update, the issues now seems fixed!
TTS and Sensor Detection - My speak TTS only when lying flat did not work. I eventually traced it to my logic that seemed to work on all other Android devices but not on Huawei. Admittedly it was my logic bug, but the Sensor readings from Huawei appears to be different (perhaps staleness/caching to effect performance/battery savings). It turned out well as I was forced to fix my logic bugs and now the features works really well for me.
Should I be concerned about these messages from LogCat ? : )
A need to focus on Software
The Mate 20 RS is a beauty as a hardware device. One key area to improve is on the software side. Huwaei seemed to have made some interesting decisions on default options, what options to not allow to be configured and design choices.
Settings are highly configurable but some default settings seem to not be intuitive (or at least consistent with other Android Devices).
Battery Information - they provide a LOT of information. They should look at Sony on how they provide estimated time remaining (graph). Moreover have multiple menus to drill into power consumption seem more complex than it should be.
Always On Display - it is too restrictive - allowing 3rd party apps to show information should be allowed.
Buggy? - I cannot get the "Magazine Unlock" to work as it initially did (after I installed a few 3rd party themes).
Bloatware - there are to many redundant apps - Huawei doesn't really need to have their own version of every app. Instead focus those resources on making the other areas world class to have a truly world class hardware/software product!
The Smart Screen hides the LED notification - perhaps design the next version to show it.
English Canada does not seem to be supported in the key Huawei app!
What will be Next Phone?
I typically change phones 2-3 times a year. However in 2019 I am looking forward to the Sony XZ4, the next Mate 30 Pro and Foldable phones. Note I also carry an Apple Watch 4 (LTE) that needs to be connected to an Apple phone (X) that I don't really use/carry otherwise. A key feature for me is battery life. Huawei leads in terms of battery life but I don't think I can yet get to a magical 2-day battery life with the Mate 20 RS. My next device would need to be at least as good (which will be very challenging IMO).
Non-serious question: What would you change about the K20 Pro given the chance?
Things I'd personally go for would be:
1) A read-only secondary bootloader chip with a jumper pinhole under the card slot. To end all brickings.
2) MicroSD support.
3) No tapered edges of the glass panel; perfectly flat for use with glass screen protectors.
4) Stereo speakers.
5) Inclusion of charging limits / intelligent charging settings within MIUI.
6) IR blaster. Can't understand why they removed this.
7) USB3.0. Current 2.0 speeds are 30MB/s. Transfering GBs takes a relatively long time, more so due to MTP.
8) Digital SIM, just do away with archaic SIM cards.
9) Better vibration motor.
10) As others have said Android One as an optional firmware.
I don't understand why they put the ultra-wide lens at the bottom of the triple camera setup. If you're taking a portrait photo with 1 hand you can sometimes see your finger in the view finder... So I would change the order of the camera setup at the back and I would position the flash next to the camera module instead of below it because I sometimes cover it with my finger when I need the flashlight.
Besides that I'd love to see a 90 Hz display, a 4500/5000 mah battery and dual speakers
Clean Google OS
Google camera
Timely security updates.
A decent visible notification LED would have been great.
nielsscholte said:
Besides that I'd love to see a 90 Hz display
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DeepAnger said:
A decent visible notification LED would have been great.
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These are the only two points for me. But:
- We will see if 90hz is possible one day with this screen. I tried 72 hz and it worked good
- There is a notification LED, but not visible from front. Only from top
So no real big points for me
5.2 inch screen would be nice, phones are getting too big for my comfort ?
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5.2 inch screen would be nice, phones are getting too big for my comfort ?
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I was surprised to find the K20 Pro is the same size as my old 5.9" Redmi 5 Plus - the 6.39" is due to the screen being taller with minimal bezel rather than actually bigger.
Screen size seems a rather dividing area. I think the best remedy is having two panel sizes for any given model. ±6.5" seems to be the new size with flagships this year. Some manufacturers do two panel sizes but usually put better hardware in a larger "Pro" variant.
I'd like a Plus sized version, 6.7-6.9", with 5000ah battery and sd card.
Better popup cam/ rear cam, mostly. Coming from an Huawei P30 it's somewhat disappointing and taking good photos with my Mi 9T Pro can be hard. Higher hertz screen would be nice but it isn't neccesary and i rather take the better battery life of a 60 hertz screen. Really happy outside of those small annoyances.
I would only change 3 things:
1) Replace the popup camera with a punchhole camera, like the Galaxy S10. Works better with face unlock.
2) Replace the on-screen fingerprint scanner with a normal fingerprint scanner on the back or on the side. These scanners are faster, more accurate and therefore easier to use.
3) Clean Android OS, though that is easily fixed with a custom rom.
McFlypants said:
These are the only two points for me. But:
- We will see if 90hz is possible one day with this screen. I tried 72 hz and it worked good
- There is a notification LED, but not visible from front. Only from top
So no real big points for me
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90Hz mod exists atm, although in beta I think..
K30 appeared end of last year. I like that they're bringing back the MicroSD and moving the FP reader to the side but dayumn, they cut the pop-up camera and AMOLED. Guessing a Pro model might appear. No mention of IR Blaster.
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Timely security updates.
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This again + 120Hz screen. Nothing else.
You're wrong about #7, it copies much faster than 30MB/s. You're being limited by another factor. This device has usb 3.0.
Assuming we are talking about realistic design choices that will not affect price (i.e. not "10000mah battery" or 1000mp camera")
1. I personally REALLY hate notches, so I would like to keep the popup camera.
2. I see absolutely no benefit in under screen fingerprint sensor, it's more gimmick than functional, better to have a regular one on the back.
3. release one firmware and one model, or at most 2, china and global.
4. MicroSD
5. Software, software, software.
Other comments I saw here are either unrealistic, or are only bells and whistles that will increase the cost but will hardly affect usability.
I would rather save 50 euros on the cost of the device than pay for 90-120hz panels.
What are they good for? fluidly scrolling your menus? "gaming" on a 6 inch screen? I don't get this refresh rate obsession.
I'd rather have longer screen on time and cheaper phone to watch my 60 fps youtube videos on.
Looks like the refresh rate become the new more=better sales point after RAM, and camera MP more or less equalized.
Also I disagree about stereo speakers, who uses tiny phone speakers anyway?
Just assholes that blast their sh*tty music in public?
There's a headphone jack and BT, that's all you need for listening to something that is not your ringtone or alarm.
Turbine1991 said:
You're wrong about #7, it copies much faster than 30MB/s. You're being limited by another factor. This device has usb 3.0.
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Every spec list I've seen clearly states USB2.0; gsmarena included - even the Pro Premium has 2.0. I've not seen any USB3 version of this phone anywhere.
File transfers top out at 30MB/s on a USB3 port with the included cable to/from an SSD on two separate machines... which is about expected for USB2 - the theoretical limits are higher but never materialise.
Currently switch to the Pixel 4a 5G. And I find out that's the 765G cannot handle all the game well as I expected. So I decide to use the same old method I used to successfully apply back to the LG G3 and Fire HD 10 2019.
This is to use the ADB command "adb shell wm size AAA x BBB" to force the device to run on the lower resolution, same ratio of course.
This method works flawlessly on my LG G3 (change from 1440p to 1080p) and Fire HD 10 tablet (from 1200p to 800p). Since now the device SOC actually render a lot less pixels and everything works a lot faster.
My Galaxy S10 have the display resolution change built-in natively on the display setting (1440-1080-720)
However, on my pixel 4a 5G I faced this problem. the punch hole for the camera on the top left become so much bigger after resolution change, and I find no way around to fix it.
Is there any help or guide or solution suggested, please let me know. Because I'm really sure that 765G will rocks every game at 720p.
Thank you for reading!