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Hi i am on the fence on whether i should purchase a p20 pro I have always been a clean android software guy used Oneplus , Pixel even custom roms on a redmi phone. How does this phone compare ? And has anyone come from similar situation from clean stock android to p20 pro .
i've come from pixel xl 128gb pure stock to huawei p20 pro - the phone is brilliant, but there are so many variants out there and if in uk and get the c782 version we seem to be getting left behind in regards to the updates
I've come from a sony, which is very close to the pixel, and I got used to very fast. What I like is that it has many features which the stock android doesn't have.
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walkerx said:
i've come from pixel xl 128gb pure stock to huawei p20 pro - the phone is brilliant, but there are so many variants out there and if in uk and get the c782 version we seem to be getting left behind in regards to the updates
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Tnx who has that version c782 ?
Just dont want to end up with something i dont like, and for me its a massive investment never used huawei software
This is the deal i have seen
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/tw...-apple-music-bt-sport-more-buymobiles-2959033
Most UK resellers will supply the C782 model even if sim free. This is then updated by the carrier of whichever sim you first insert. Three will also update boot animation so you have their big logo on it.
A lot of users (myself included) have the C782 model.
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Most UK resellers will supply the C782 model even if sim free. This is then updated by the carrier of whichever sim you first insert. Three will also update boot animation so you have their big logo on it.
A lot of users (myself included) have the C782 model.
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This is what I was lead to believe however, I have a Vodafone contract through a 3rd party provider.
My c782 is still on .110 but I have read on the Vodafone forums that their devices have been updated to .128 over 2 weeks ago [emoji19]
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This is what I was lead to believe however, I have a Vodafone contract through a 3rd party provider.
My c782 is still on .110 but I have read on the Vodafone forums that their devices have been updated to .128 over 2 weeks ago [emoji19]
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a few vodafone users from what i know have the C432 model, which is receiving a lot of updates
Yes, apologies I have since found out that Vodafone appear to be issuing the European model.
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If you're a pure android person, as in Pixel / Pixel 2, this phone will be pretty stuttery to you and the lack of updates will frustrate. I am on April 1 security patch, and Instagram which is the main app I use, is quite laggy graphically.
Aside from the lack of updates, crap selfie camera and stuttery performance in some apps, the phone is top of the pile right now.
The speakers, screen, camera, and speed of the phone are top notch .
walkerx said:
Most UK resellers will supply the C782 model even if sim free. This is then updated by the carrier of whichever sim you first insert. Three will also update boot animation so you have their big logo on it.
A lot of users (myself included) have the C782 model.
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Hi, my wife just got this phone and I'm tempted too. I saw your comment and she has c782.
Do you know if you root and flash a custom ROM do you get regular updates then ?
if she has only just got it, then she will need to pay to get it unlocked (there is thread on this) as huawei no longer provide unlock codes.
you will need to rebrand the phone to C432 model to be able to get the updates, if you leave on C782 then you are reliant on the network operators and huawei to decide when we will receive updates
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you are reliant on the network operators and huawei to decide when we will receive updates
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who do the updates come from if it's not Huawei? google directly?
no, the updates come from huawei but the network operators have to authorise its release
Hi guys, I’m jumping in on this thread as I’m seriously considering a P20 Pro.
I’m thinking of buying from John Lewis in the U.K. and I’m on BT Mobile as my provider - does anyone have any experience with the updates or as to what model of phone i would get if buying from John Lewis?
Also, how are you guys finding the battery life on the P20 Pro?
bingefeller said:
Hi guys, I’m jumping in on this thread as I’m seriously considering a P20 Pro.
I’m thinking of buying from John Lewis in the U.K. and I’m on BT Mobile as my provider - does anyone have any experience with the updates or as to what model of phone i would get if buying from John Lewis?
Also, how are you guys finding the battery life on the P20 Pro?
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Battery life is amazing and if i was you i would ask if the p20 pro is unlocked and non branded otherwise you have to wait for the carrier updates, which are so damn slow. I came from a oneplus 6 and im happy that i bought the p20 pro less then 2 weeks ago and this phone is just the best.
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Battery life is amazing and if i was you i would ask if the p20 pro is unlocked and non branded otherwise you have to wait for the carrier updates, which are so damn slow. I came from a oneplus 6 and im happy that i bought the p20 pro less then 2 weeks ago and this phone is just the best.
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Thanks for the reply. I just need to see the P20 so I can get an idea of the physical size of it. I’ve been using this iPhone 6s for so long that I’m guessing anything bigger is going to really feel massive.
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Thanks for the reply. I just need to see the P20 so I can get an idea of the physical size of it. I’ve been using this iPhone 6s for so long that I’m guessing anything bigger is going to really feel massive.
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Ha, yea its pretty huge if you come from a iPhone but its still awesome due to 1 hand mode or using the home button to navigate the phone, which i use currently.
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Battery life is amazing and if i was you i would ask if the p20 pro is unlocked and non branded otherwise you have to wait for the carrier updates, which are so damn slow. I came from a oneplus 6 and im happy that i bought the p20 pro less then 2 weeks ago and this phone is just the best.
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What was wrong with OnePlus 6 to make u swap to the P20 Pro
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What was wrong with OnePlus 6 to make u swap to the P20 Pro
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Well, the Oneplus 6 isn't bad and software wise its one of the fastest phones you can get right now besides the pixels but.... i didn't like the camera! The camera is oke when used in full daylight but at low light its just terrible and the sound quality isn't also that good. The oneplus 6 is better at taking video's etc but the p20 pro is way better at taking photo's.
also the overal build quality on the p20 pro is and feels so much better.
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Well, the Oneplus 6 isn't bad and software wise its one of the fastest phones you can get right now besides the pixels but.... i didn't like the camera! The camera is oke when used in full daylight but at low light its just terrible and the sound quality isn't also that good. The oneplus 6 is better at taking video's etc but the p20 pro is way better at taking photo's.
also the overal build quality on the p20 pro is and feels so much better.
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I've been thinking about ditching the P20 Pro and switching to OnePlus ot back to Google with Pixel 3, but can't make mind up
Update: just checked the pixels out and they look premium, interface seems slick, but u need 128gb version as 12gb has already been used with nothing else installed. The XL looks spot on and size is same as P20 Pro.
So being a huge note fan I have been saving for a new note since my Note 4.
Finally pulled the trigger on a Note 9.
The wife has a One Plus 6 my dad a Poco F1. Both 845 chipsets.
The fact that I did not get an 845 chipset with my note 9 is the one thing that spoils my experience and joy of owning the phone. We in asia seem to get the crappy Exynos chip set for some reason.
So now thinking off selling my note and importing one from the USA.
What are your thoughts on this insanity off offering the same phone with different chipsets. And why would Samsung do something like this.
Benchmark tests cant be trusted because I know Samsung cheats.
So just how different is the experience between the chip sets. I know its pretty rare that somebody would have exposure to both. As far as I can see my wifes 845 based One Plus 6 is faster. Never lags.
My reason for getting the note was best display, has a sd card slot which is critical for me.
Why would Samsung do this ?. Is it because they want to offer a cheaper exp to people in Asia ?.
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So being a huge note fan I have been saving for a new note since my Note 4.
Finally pulled the trigger on a Note 9.
The wife has a One Plus 6 my dad a Poco F1. Both 845 chipsets.
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Why would Samsung do this ?. Is it because they want to offer a cheaper exp to people in Asia ?.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/difference-snapdragon-exynos-galaxy-t3834607/
Hi Everyone,
I recently bought the Exynos version of the Note 9 and will be handing the Pixel 3 XL to my wife. After reading through a lot of threads, I'm starting to have doubts if that was a wise decision. The reason why I went with Exynos is because I did not like the bloatware on my Tmobile Note 8 that I owned before and wanted to flash a custom Rom. I wanted to clarify a few things.
Will I have issues using the Exynos version with Tmobile? I read that I may be running into LTE issues?
Which Rom would you recommend that works without major issues? I know that this is a personal opinion. I don't want to load the Pixel Experience ROM if it means that half of the features will not be available. I am using Nova launcher, so the launcher is not that important to me. What is important is not losing features that make the Note 9 a Note 9, but also not having extra Samsung apps that I will never use but will slow down the phone or drain the battery. Basically, what I would want is the rawest Google experience without losing features.
Thanks!
You should of got the TMobile note 9 then flash the N960U1 UNLOCK firmware which has no bloatware.
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Hi Everyone,
I recently bought the Exynos version of the Note 9 and will be handing the Pixel 3 XL to my wife. After reading through a lot of threads, I'm starting to have doubts if that was a wise decision. The reason why I went with Exynos is because I did not like the bloatware on my Tmobile Note 8 that I owned before and wanted to flash a custom Rom. I wanted to clarify a few things.
Will I have issues using the Exynos version with Tmobile? I read that I may be running into LTE issues?
Which Rom would you recommend that works without major issues? I know that this is a personal opinion. I don't want to load the Pixel Experience ROM if it means that half of the features will not be available. I am using Nova launcher, so the launcher is not that important to me. What is important is not losing features that make the Note 9 a Note 9, but also not having extra Samsung apps that I will never use but will slow down the phone or drain the battery. Basically, what I would want is the rawest Google experience without losing features.
Thanks!
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I like the option of having an unlocked bootloader in case a more stable Pixel Experience Rom is eventually released. From what I understand, that is not an option with the Snapdragon...
I also like the dual sim option, where I can use my work and personal sims on one phone.
Many of the Samsung apps can be uninstalled or disbeled. Battery life is awesome on Note 9. I'm coming from a pixel 2 xl 128gb. A can say that I'm fully satisfied with Note 9. Camera received a huge improvement if compared with my past s9 plus and even compared with my old pixel. Google did a great job ruined Pixel 3 xl with that horrible notch.
Note 9 has full package that any smartphone user are looking for
My version is Snapdragon
damir831 said:
Hi Everyone,
I recently bought the Exynos version of the Note 9 and will be handing the Pixel 3 XL to my wife. After reading through a lot of threads, I'm starting to have doubts if that was a wise decision. The reason why I went with Exynos is because I did not like the bloatware on my Tmobile Note 8 that I owned before and wanted to flash a custom Rom. I wanted to clarify a few things.
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Basically, what I would want is the rawest Google experience without losing features.
Thanks!
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Cristiano Matos said:
Many of the Samsung apps can be uninstalled or disbeled. Battery life is awesome on Note 9. I'm coming from a pixel 2 xl 128gb. A can say that I'm fully satisfied with Note 9. Camera received a huge improvement if compared with my past s9 plus and even in compared with my old pixel. Google did a great job ruined Pixel 3 xl with that horrible notch.
Note 9 has full package that any smartphone user are looking for
My version is Snapdragon
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Here is the issue with the 960F: you will lose carrier aggregation, which means when you enter an area that uses a different LTE band for T-Mo, your phone won't automatically switch over like a T-Mobile branded model or the Unlocked U1 model would. It also doesn't support Band 71 (and maybe not Band 66), which is part of T-Mobile's advanced LTE Network.
You may also have some difficulty getting Samsung Pay to work, since your phone is from a different region.
And once you unlock the bootloader, you break Knox, and you lose Samsung Pay, Secure Folder, Samsung Pass, and some other features. PERMANENTLY. No way to recover them. Knox is an e-fuse, not software.
My recommendation would be to get the US Unlocked N960U1, or get the T-Mobile branded N960U and flash the U1 firmware. They are the same exact device hardware-wise and support all of T-Mo's LTE bands.
Then use either ADB commands or Package Disabler Pro to uninstall or disable any bloatware you want. You don't need root to do it. Just check the debloat thread. Honestly, I don't debloat anything. I hide the apps I don't use, and they neither take up memory or battery. Cause they aren't used.
If you don't like the Samsung Experience launcher, use Nova, or Rootless Pixel Launcher. And then apply the free Pixelized theme from the Samsung theme store. It will then look like a big Pixel 2 XL.
If you want to block Ads, follow the Adhell thread and build a copy of Adhell (I think we're on 3 or 3.1 now).
Then add a debit card to your Samsung Pay app, go to the grocery store and have some fun using your phone to buy them when the cashier tries to tell you they don't accept Apple Pay.
I was a Nexus and Pixel fanboy. I've had every Nexus since the Galaxy Nexus (what a ****show that phone was, but God I LOVED it). I've had a few Pixel XLs, and a couple Pixel 2 XLs. I have unlocked, rooted, and ROM'd till my eyes bled. I understand where you're coming from.
I've dabbled in other phones. I've has some Samsung's, some LGs, some Motos, and even a couple iPhones. I always came back to Nexus/Pixel.
Then I got the S8 Plus and I fell in love with Samsung Pay and Samsung Pass. But I didn't become a true Samsung fanboy until the Note 8.
I tried to go back to the Pixel 2 XL and just gor bored with it. I missed the Note features. So I sold it and now I have a 512GB Note 9. It's the ATT model, which I unlocked, flashed the U1 firmware, and am running on T-Mobile. No complaints. Haven't even given the Pixel 3 XL a second thought. It doesn't hold a candle to this phone. In MY opinion.
Thank you all for your replies. Very helpful.
Having had a Note 8 until October of this year, I do not mind losing Secure Folder and Samsung Pay to get rooting capabilities. I never used Secure Folder and while Samsung Pay was a cool feature to show off to friends when I first got it, I barely used it after the first month. Reason being - if I'm paying for something, I'm not at home and need to drive somewhere. If I'm driving, I need to bring my wallet/license.
Band 66 appears to supported with this Exynos version.
Band 71 is currently not supported where I live and by the time it is, I will probably be on my Note 11
Biggest drawback appears to be Carrier Aggregation. I work from home and am typically on Wifi about 90% of the time. This one I am OK with losing as I don't go over 2GB data on my Tmobile plan.
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Thank you all for your replies. Very helpful.
Having had a Note 8 until October of this year, I do not mind losing Secure Folder and Samsung Pay to get rooting capabilities. I never used Secure Folder and while Samsung Pay was a cool feature to show off to friends when I first got it, I barely used it after the first month. Reason being - if I'm paying for something, I'm not at home and need to drive somewhere. If I'm driving, I need to bring my wallet/license.
Band 66 appears to supported with this Exynos version.
Band 71 is currently not supported where I live and by the time it is, I will probably be on my Note 11
Biggest drawback appears to be Carrier Aggregation. I work from home and am typically on Wifi about 90% of the time. This one I am OK with losing as I don't go over 2GB data on my Tmobile plan.
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And some people don't care about SPay or Pass. Me, I can't live without them. I COULD, but you know what I mean. I use them all the time. I can just throw my DL in my pocket and not worry about someone stealing my debit and credit cards I'd they get ahold of my wallet. Especially nice at the gym when I don't want to carry my wallet around or put it in a locker. Also been handy a few times when I forgot my wallet, LOL.
And now I have a Gear S3, so I just pay with my watch.
I just wanted to update this thread for future reference in case someone as curious as me decides to do the same thing. So far the connection has been great. I have compared the speeds of my wife's Pixel 3 XL to my phone back to back from the same spot, and I'm getting about 45 mbps download speeds vs 60 mbps on the XL. The upload speeds for both are about 19 mbps.
Anyone who likes to mod roms and likes dual sim capabilities, getting this phone is a no brainer. 45 mbps lets you stream at 4k without any issues - so speeds higher than that are not necessary unless you use your phone to download a lot of data.
Having come from the Snapdragon 845 in the Oneplus 6T and the Pixel 3 XL, I can not tell any performance differences in real world scenarios. Only thing that I miss are the low light camera capabilities of the Pixel 3 XL.
I currently own a Xiaomi mi 8, I love my cell phone but I think it's time to give way to a flagship. My options are the Mi 9T Pro and the Samsung Galaxy S10 +. Which smartphone do you recommend?
Well, if you're happy with xiaomi I guess mi9T pro is a great phone, but if you want something else I whould recommend oneplus 7T or Samsung galaxy S10E if you want a Samsung phone.
But if you're looking for the best bang for your buck I think realme X2 pro is the best option along side OP 7T
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I currently own a Xiaomi mi 8, I love my cell phone but I think it's time to give way to a flagship. My options are the Mi 9T Pro and the Samsung Galaxy S10 +. Which smartphone do you recommend?
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I would strongly suggest that you wait until March..at least. This way you can buy one of the many new phones that will feature an Snapdragon 865 processor. Such as the Xiaomi Mi10, Mix 4, One Plus 8, 8T etc.
Moving one generation higher isn't really enough of a difference to justify moving. Plus many of the phones with the very latest processors will also be compatible with 5G., and once these new phones are released the price of current flagships will definitely drop, so it's financially wiser to be patient.
If you search you will see quite a few posts here on XDA , where people discuss how they bought a Mi9T or a Samsung and they wanted to share that they regretted buying a new phone because they were expecting the new phone to have dramatic differences.
By the way, I had also considered selling my mi8 and moving on. But I will definitely wait.
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Well, if you're happy with xiaomi I guess mi9T pro is a great phone, but if you want something else I whould recommend oneplus 7T or Samsung galaxy S10E if you want a Samsung phone.
But if you're looking for the best bang for your buck I think realme X2 pro is the best option along side OP 7T
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Realme x2 pro It is a good option but I cannot get it in my country in an official way
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I would strongly suggest that you wait until March..at least. This way you can buy one of the many new phones that will feature an Snapdragon 865 processor. Such as the Xiaomi Mi10, Mix 4, One Plus 8, 8T etc.
Moving one generation higher isn't really enough of a difference to justify moving. Plus many of the phones with the very latest processors will also be compatible with 5G., and once these new phones are released the price of current flagships will definitely drop, so it's financially wiser to be patient.
If you search you will see quite a few posts here on XDA , where people discuss how they bought a Mi9T or a Samsung and they wanted to share that they regretted buying a new phone because they were expecting the new phone to have dramatic differences.
By the way, I had also considered selling my mi8 and moving on. But I will definitely wait.
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You are absolutely right, it is better to wait a couple of months and get a flagship, and this year all top-of-the-range smartphone will have the screen with a minimum refresh rate of 90Hz
See:
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-8-series-leak-specs/
Interesting phone, i wanted to get it, but asus decided to remove sd slot, and to put usb 2.0 type-c port. There is nothing flagship about that
I know that doesnt matter to most users, but cmon, its 2021... Usb 2.0 on a sd888 16gb ram ufs 3.1 phone???
Hope to see twrp and some good rom too it soon
Just placed my order.
Have 14 days to try it out and to see if it will replace my IPhone 12 mini.
Truly fantastic phone. instant buy.
Hope GCam will be available for non root device.
Question to the Asus longtime users.
Is there any way to get the phone cheaper at launch? some special promo ot stuff?
Can someone verify if there will be a USA release? The current spec sheet doesnt have compatible 5g bands for T-Mobile.
@Haldi4803
here in Germany there is a little Promo for Pre-Order
and a Shop sell the 128gb with 8GB for 599€
How is the ASUS politics about bootloader unlock and de-googling phones? I would buy it as soon as I can use it without Google.
The battery life seems really pitiful and with that 33w lackluster charging I do not feel it's that great a device these paid reviewers are making it to be. 5.5 hours SOT is not something to boast about.
It would've been perfect if ASUS would've chosen the Snapdragon 870, which makes sense considering the mediocre cameras that don't even need the DSP of the 888 and almost equal performance to it and much better throttling/thermals and battery efficiency.
So sad.
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How is the ASUS politics about bootloader unlock and de-googling phones? I would buy it as soon as I can use it without Google.
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What do you want to use it with? Ubuntu?
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What do you want to use it with? Ubuntu?
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No, Ubuntu is not feasible at the moment, unfortunately their OS is not compatible with many phones and they do not have all the apps. Yes, I know you were ironic, btw.
FYI, I would like to use it with LineageOS or similar ROMs, without gapps, for a variety of reasons:
Because I do not need most of Google apps and services;
Because Google Play Services eats battery doing things I do not want to,;
Because I like having more control of what is happening on my devices;
There are also a privacy concern which is real, Rob Braxman on YouTube can tell you more about that.
Regarding my initial question (that you haven't replied), I suppose I will keep monitoring the XDA and 4pda forums and see how things will evolve.
Asus provide bootloader utility for previous devices, should be up for zenfone 8 soon.
I will add signature spoofing and degoogle stock rom. I have done it for all my devices: improved battery life and full control.
When is the phone going to be released in the UK? Cannot find any information whatsoever?
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Asus ZenFone 8 & 8 Flip: Everything you need to know
The Asus ZenFone 8 ditches the series' iconic camera for a compact form factor, but the less powerful ZenFone 8 Flip keeps it around for the faithful
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I got my 16/256 Zenfone 8 yesterday, its an gem. Very snappy and well built.
Need the bootloader unlock tool from asus to unlock full potential tho.
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I got my 16/256 Zenfone 8 yesterday, its an gem. Very snappy and well built.
Need the bootloader unlock tool from asus to unlock full potential tho.
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Where did you buy it please?
Its on sale from number of stores here in sweden
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NisseGurra said:
I got my 16/256 Zenfone 8 yesterday, its an gem. Very snappy and well built.
Need the bootloader unlock tool from asus to unlock full potential tho.
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Did you try any of Asus previously published unlock apps? For example, this one looks rather generic:
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/ZenFone/ZS670KS/AsusUnlock_1.0.0.7_210127_fulldpi.apk
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I was right, I think.
Asus actually published the same unlock tool under the ZS690KS folder:
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/ZenFone/ZS590KS/AsusUnlock_1.0.0.7_210127_fulldpi.apk