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Antivirus Software?

A list of questions about android antivirus apps really
Does anyone use any?
Would anyone recommend any?
Is it needed?
Does it impact performance?
If anyone has any views any of the above they would be gratefully received.

palexr said:
Does anyone use any?
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No
Would anyone recommend any?
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No
Is it needed?
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Not only is it not needed, it couldn't possibly do anything since it wouldn't have any access to anything it would need to scan.
Does it impact performance?
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Assuming that such a ridiculous thing even existed (there are scams on the market that claim to be antivirus programs -- they're NOT), it WOULD.
This is NOT MICROSHAFT. Forget everything you know about viruses.

lbcoder said:
This is NOT MICROSHAFT. Forget everything you know about viruses.
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While I agree with lbcoder, the "MICROSHAFT" comment was unhelpful and unnecessary. Ever heard of/used an anti-virus product on a WinMo phone? Nope. Me either.
And for the record... Linux and OSX have viruses as well.
Don't worry about a virus on your Android phone.

yipcanjo said:
Ever heard of/used an anti-virus product on a WinMo phone? Nope. Me either.
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i've heard of at least one, but i can't remember the name of it.
a job i was doing some years ago saw the boss and myself using imate jasjams (HTC TyTN?).
my boss managed to locate an antivirus app for the phone and installed it.
no idea how well it worked. i didn't bother with it.

Symantec had/has one for WinMo. I used it for a while. But it was more of a gimmick than anything else. Never seen a virus or a positive scan.
I would say because of the nature of Android we shouldnt see much in terms of viruses, however the system leaves much too control to trojans imho.

read bout this new app from droidsecurity called virusfree, meant to be good. They also offer a phone tracking service so you can remote wipe the memory if it's lost or stolen, that sounds pretty handy as I've previously had a phone stolen and it's a pain to change passwords etc

nmesisca said:
however the system leaves much too control to trojans imho.
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The system leaves absolutely NO control to trojans.

lbcoder said:
The system leaves absolutely NO control to trojans.
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lol.. so in the history of man, if just ONE person gets a virus on their Android device.. then you are going to buy me a beer.

briggs81 said:
lol.. so in the history of man, if just ONE person gets a virus on their Android device.. then you are going to buy me a beer.
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You clearly don't understand the difference in the system architecture when compared to that BS that most people commonly use because thats what their computer came with. I'm not going to bother trying to explain it to you since you clearly are not receptive to knowledge.

Briggs, looks like you hit a nerve there, why don't you go and educate yourself young man

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wouldn't virsus be possible if they do manage to get root access? I know a few of the customized ROMs require no notification for applications to gain root status. I am sure with root, an application can some how manage to do some damage. rm -r /sdcard anyone?

Antivirus yes or no ??

Hi guys
Im using custom ROMS from this portal. I would like to ask if it is necessary to have antivirus isntalled on my phone "SE Xperia X8" if i only install apps from Play Store and I dont download any files like movies, mp3 etc. on my phone.
I know its good when you have a such thing but when it isnt necessary....
So I would like to ask your suggestions, you know much more like me if you create some ROMs and kernels and many more.
Thanks a lot guys

harviak said:
Hi guys
Im using custom ROMS from this portal. I would like to ask if it is necessary to have antivirus isntalled on my phone "SE Xperia X8" if i only install apps from Play Store and I dont download any files like movies, mp3 etc. on my phone.
I know its good when you have a such thing but when it isnt necessary....
So I would like to ask your suggestions, you know much more like me if you create some ROMs and kernels and many more.
Thanks a lot guys
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no = battery drain,less ram,no use of it

harviak said:
Hi guys
Im using custom ROMS from this portal. I would like to ask if it is necessary to have antivirus isntalled on my phone "SE Xperia X8" if i only install apps from Play Store and I dont download any files like movies, mp3 etc. on my phone.
I know its good when you have a such thing but when it isnt necessary....
So I would like to ask your suggestions, you know much more like me if you create some ROMs and kernels and many more.
Thanks a lot guys
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Nah not needed...

Hahaha NO!
Maybe if you have windows on phone!

i will say No! not recommended

the only thing i asked you is because i read many posts where people say it is neccesary because you have root acess, security risk .... but im not an idiot to run something that i didnt trust.

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the only thing i asked you is because i read many posts where people say it is neccesary because you have root acess, security risk .... but im not an idiot to run something that i didnt trust.
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who will make phone virus LOL

@OP - I use AVG, it's not a ram eater or battery drainer as those above say.. (funny they say that when they don't use it)
It's very naive of those above to think that Android cannot get viruses.. It can and has many, even in the PlayStore.
Remember that all roms here are rooted which means they have NO security.
An AntiVirus is a must to protect your data.
Anyone can put an app in the PlayStore - we've all seen some of the cr*p available there.. The code is not verified by Google like in the Apple AppStore so viruses and data theft is easy to accomplish for those who write bogus apps.
The choice is yours ultimately but I'd never run Android without AVG..
Good luck!

fotak-x said:
who will make phone virus LOL
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my words, but i just want to be sure that its not really necessary

fotak-x said:
who will make phone virus LOL
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Thats made me laugh :silly:
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harviak said:
my words, but i just want to be sure that its not really necessary
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Ya bro..its not necessary

CtrlAltDelIrl said:
@OP - I use AVG, it's not a ram eater or battery drainer as those above say.. (funny they say that when they don't use it)
It's very naive of those above to think that Android cannot get viruses.. It can and has many, even in the PlayStore.
Remember that all roms here are rooted which means they have NO security.
An AntiVirus is a must to protect your data.
Anyone can put an app in the PlayStore - we've all seen some of the cr*p available there.. The code is not verified by Google like in the Apple AppStore so viruses and data theft is easy to accomplish for those who write bogus apps.
The choice is yours ultimately but I'd never run Android without AVG..
Good luck!
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yeah....just check your runing apps to see the ram stealer

CtrlAltDelIrl said:
@OP - I use AVG, it's not a ram eater or battery drainer as those above say.. (funny they say that when they don't use it)
It's very naive of those above to think that Android cannot get viruses.. It can and has many, even in the PlayStore.
Remember that all roms here are rooted which means they have NO security.
An AntiVirus is a must to protect your data.
Anyone can put an app in the PlayStore - we've all seen some of the cr*p available there.. The code is not verified by Google like in the Apple AppStore so viruses and data theft is easy to accomplish for those who write bogus apps.
The choice is yours ultimately but I'd never run Android without AVG..
Good luck!
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In one way youre right. But if I choose apps like facebook, twitter ... from lets say " good and trusted developers " which are use by milions of people, so i think that should be clean because many people already have it. If they were defective, they were be removed long time ago
btw. sry for my bad english but Im not from english speaking country :/

harviak said:
In one way youre right. But if I choose apps like facebook, twitter ... from lets say " good and trusted developers " which are use by milions of people, so i think that should be clean because many people already have it. If they were defective, they were be removed long time ago
btw. sry for my bad english but Im not from english speaking country :/
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true story

What if I'll get virus on phone? I'll just lost data or something?? I don't care,I always lost all data when I full wipe and flash rom. BACKUP is on PC and LAPTOP

Simply yes..
It's an insurance..

I think, as far you are not downloading suspicious apps and not opening suspicious web pages, its not needed

Godra said:
I think, as far you are not downloading suspicious apps and not opening suspicious web pages, its not needed
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suspicious apps... how does antivirus even recognize virus and i dont think that web pages would content android viruses

fotak-x said:
suspicious apps... how does antivirus even recognize virus and i dont think that web pages would content android viruses
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Well, Im not sure.. I know that on iOS were some holes in safari which alowed jailbreaking, but also those security holes could be also used for other things, like getting some data from device. Maybe there are also similar things in Android

Godra said:
Well, Im not sure.. I know that on iOS were some holes in safari which alowed jailbreaking, but also those security holes could be also used for other things, like getting some data from device. Maybe there are also similar things in Android
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android is just like Linux the safest

CtrlAlt does have some points. Mainly, it's really better safe than sorry.
m.techradar.com/news/phone-and-comm...ndroid-security-apps-do-you-need-them-1076731
I found that just now. And i don't know what to make of it, honestly (no idea if it's reliable). It's the internet.
I don't have any av installed on my phone, although i do have Avast on my sdcard so i can install it when i have to.
So my take on this is we don't need av FOR NOW. but it's good to be safe. Be careful when on the net specially if you dl stuff. Have an av ready just in case. Hope that helps.
sent from my rooted tomato using xda app.

Knox Warranty Void Removal

Hello everyone. I opened a petition on cha**e.org to try and force Samsung to Remove Knox Warranty C**p.
Was wondering a thing,at the moment I have 22 supporters on 100 needed. Then the requested number of people will increase. Can I post the petition link here? I really need your support to make it! Thanks in advance!
If I can't,just remove the thread,and sorry ^^
The link to the petition is this: https://www.change.org/p/samsung-co-ltd-remove-knox-warranty-void

thank you

post here the link

mr.smsom said:
thank you
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igorescu04 said:
post here the link
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Link updated in OP.
Sent from my SM-G920F using XDA Free mobile app

So pretty much, you went to the link and dled something and it fully affected your phone?

MoRTiZz3 said:
So pretty much, you went to the link and dled something and it fully affected your phone?
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What? I don't get you,explain ^^

Done

Done ?

Thank you to the people who signed. We are at 31 now! Hope we can grow,someone has e-mail of Samsung? So I can insert it in the petition,and at every person who sign an email will be sent to Samsung to show how much we are growing bigger!

Wolf80 said:
Thank you to the people who signed. We are at 31 now! Hope we can grow,someone has e-mail of Samsung? So I can insert it in the petition,and at every person who sign an email will be sent to Samsung to show how much we are growing bigger!
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spread the topic in all sammy knoxed devices mate ... especially flagships that are bought alot and has activity like
Galaxy S4,Note 4, note 3,s4 mini, s5 mini

I've signed...hate that knox crap.

Samsung won't change it. It is voiding their warranty and they can set the terms in it freely. Nobody like to repair phones because someone was messing with stuff in them.

Rayman96 said:
Samsung won't change it. It is voiding their warranty and they can set the terms in it freely. Nobody like to repair phones because someone was messing with stuff in them.
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Oh and let me see,if your volume + and - won't work anymore,it is due to installing a ROM? If your camera doesn't work,it is cause you installed a ROM? Come on man.

Wolf80 said:
Oh and let me see,if your volume + and - won't work anymore,it is due to installing a ROM? If your camera doesn't work,it is cause you installed a ROM? Come on man.
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The level of complication in building such a device won't let you know if an issue has hardware or software origin.
I don't understand why people are against Knox, as Samsung introduced similar checking system long time before. The only reason why people aren't angry because of that is fact that there is a workaround for that.
Consider that people at Samsung aren't stupid and they know that messing with device is causing problems. Of course that some issues like faulty buttons may be independent from rom flashing but services don't want to check it. Tripped Knox give them a lot options to check and that cost money.
It is sad that everything come to money, but I think that everyone is clever enough not to support products that have been modified heavily.

Additionally, what you want to add to this is theres new tech in aosp built from knox.
also the wording of the petition is terrible and should have been editied and proof read. it comes off more as a petulant child not getting his way than a genuine want or query. and as for wording, listen what you need is for them to change the fact a knox flag affects warranty. not remove knox altogether

Signed....

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Additionally, what you want to add to this is theres new tech in aosp built from knox.
also the wording of the petition is terrible and should have been editied and proof read. it comes off more as a petulant child not getting his way than a genuine want or query. and as for wording, listen what you need is for them to change the fact a knox flag affects warranty. not remove knox altogether
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Updated the whole text,revisited everything. Should be fine now,I was in an hurry when I first wrote the petition,and forgot to fix it. Thanks that you said it.

Wolf80 said:
Updated the whole text,revisited everything. Should be fine now,I was in an hurry when I first wrote the petition,and forgot to fix it. Thanks that you said it.
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Directive 1999/44 / EC dictates that seller must repair product and it is his role to proof that root caused the issue (for example). In most cases Samsung is warrantor and not seller.
When people will understand that?

Done

hope it will help to remove knox

Is SABS dead?

Just sideloaded Android 8 and SABS isn't blocking anything. Not sure if it's me or if it's done.

It's working just fine for me.
Check your providers and manually add a custom one if needed.
Cheers~

It's working fine for me too.. however I think we wont be seeing any update to SABS... other alternatives are already available tho, lets hope they won't get taken down tho...

This is not the place to post questions. There's a Q&A section for that.
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The app is working well, but the bad news is, Samsung took it down of github. Not sure how this will move on, i really liked this solution.
Just Sammy feeling threatened by their own guns.

@PlutoDelic
It's not just a matter of being threatened; ELM/KLM Keys cost money.
Depending on your organization and use (Corporate Vs. Education/Development Vs. Production), the cost ranges anywhere from $1 to $87 per device per year. However, I believe, in specific circumstances, there is no cost but you are limited to a set number of seats.
What Samsung SHOULD be doing is allowing us to unlock our bootloaders in exchange for our warranties.
Then we wouldn't have situations like this.

I completely agree.

tossero said:
It's working just fine for me.
Check your providers and manually add a custom one if needed.
Cheers~
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Which custom u using?

Bhargavpatel96 said:
Which custom u using?
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I am using the providers indicated in the screenshots, probably is too much but I can't help it
Cheers~

Have you tried updating the internet browser app on your device?

Telegram group?

Hey guys, is there any major Telegram group for the A71? I've found this post but it appears to be deleted. If you know any, please share with me.

What would be the purpose of it?

DonAndress said:
What would be the purpose of it?
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Us users to share mods (like gcam), themes, tips and tricks to improve the device performance and camera, for example, info about root if someone wants it and other things as well.

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SkylinesHD said:
I just created a telegram group because it seems like nobody else did (correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't find one)
Link is: t.me/a71galaxy
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You created a channel my bro, not a group haha

joaocbbc said:
Us users to share mods (like gcam), themes, tips and tricks to improve the device performance and camera, for example, info about root if someone wants it and other things as well.
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I thought XDA was created for that.
Are you saying that for some phones there are devs who don't use XDA at all?
BTW seems like nobody cares for A71 and we won't get any debloated roms any time soon. Shame.

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BTW seems like nobody cares for A71 and we won't get any debloated roms any time soon. Shame.
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In turn became a very popular phone, almost immediately. I don't understand too...

joaocbbc said:
You created a channel my bro, not a group haha
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Whoops

DonAndress said:
I thought XDA was created for that.
Are you saying that for some phones there are devs who don't use XDA at all?
BTW seems like nobody cares for A71 and we won't get any debloated roms any time soon. Shame.
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Not that. Some people just prefer to access a messaging platform than a forum. Is way too easy. A lot of phones (e.g, Xiaomi's and Realme's) have Telegram groups with bots and notes to facilitate the use and search for features, mods, etc.
I don't really understand why this phone doesn't have active devs. When I look up at YouTube I see a lot of videos from different countries and it appears to be a good selling one.

joaocbbc said:
Not that. Some people just prefer to access a messaging platform than a forum. Is way too easy. A lot of phones (e.g, Xiaomi's and Realme's) have Telegram groups with bots and notes to facilitate the use and search for features, mods, etc.
I don't really understand why this phone doesn't have active devs. When I look up at YouTube I see a lot of videos from different countries and it appears to be a good selling one.
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Search with galaxy a71 developers. Ive just made a group where we csn discuss and collaborate to try ans start development for this device. If possible, spread the word so that we can increase the number of participents.

senseijtitus said:
Search with galaxy a71 developers. Ive just made a group where we csn discuss and collaborate to try ans start development for this device. If possible, spread the word so that we can increase the number of participents.
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share the @ with us

senseijtitus said:
Search with galaxy a71 developers. Ive just made a group where we csn discuss and collaborate to try ans start development for this device. If possible, spread the word so that we can increase the number of participents.
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is it a group or a channel?

joaocbbc said:
is it a group or a channel?
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I'll be creating a channel.

If anyone want a A71 dedicated group, that's it: t.me/sammya71

DonAndress said:
What would be the purpose of it?
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Actually big, me as developer maintaining ROM with Telegram group is so easier. Anyway I don't like XDA, I prefer chats, not threads.
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DonAndress said:
I thought XDA was created for that.
Are you saying that for some phones there are devs who don't use XDA at all?
BTW seems like nobody cares for A71 and we won't get any debloated roms any time soon. Shame.
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Yeah, there are lots of developers that don't care about XDA.

ganomin said:
Yeah, there are lots of developers that don't care about XDA.
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Are there any for A71 creating stock debloated roms?

DonAndress said:
Are there any for A71 creating stock debloated roms?
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No and no one cares this device for this moment, maybe I will, cus current on daisy is everything done. And with "stock debloated roms" you mean stock rom, but debloated? (Some kinda deleting unnecesary apps, adding features, customizing kernel, right?)

ganomin said:
No and no one cares this device for this moment, maybe I will, cus current on daisy is everything done. And with "stock debloated roms" you mean stock rom, but debloated? (Some kinda deleting unnecesary apps, adding features, customizing kernel, right?)
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Well yes, stock as in not AOSP, because only Samsung's firmware gives full control over the camera.
And yes, debloated as in no rubbish apps from Samsung.
I'm not sure what customising kernel can actually give you as benefit, I'm not Dev.

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Well yes, stock as in not AOSP, because only Samsung's firmware gives full control over the camera.
And yes, debloated as in no rubbish apps from Samsung.
I'm not sure what customising kernel can actually give you as benefit, I'm not Dev.
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Debloating stock isn't hard, I can make it if you want that. Customizing kernel can give better battery life, perfomance etc.

ganomin said:
Debloating stock isn't hard, I can make it if you want that. Customizing kernel can give better battery life, perfomance etc.
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Well that's a great news.
What I'd be worry about is how to install it. Since there isn't a simple way to even root the firmware.
Do you happen to also know how to prepare a custom bootloader?