hello, as mentioned I'm rooted on the stock OS (system version 7.4.9 user 4952320). Due to the issues with kindles and google play services that started around April or so I have play services stuck at version 7.0.97. I haven't had the need to use the tablet lately and noticed today that the youtube app will not work due to the unupdated google play services. Is there a way to use youtube again on the tablet?
On a side note, I noticed that there was an update for Kindle fire HD 7'' to version 7.5.1 ? I didn't notice until I was searching the forums due to my tablet not telling me to update.
Have you got twrp recovery installed?
I didnt need twrp, as i just wanted root on stock, but decided over the weekend its probably better to have a custom rom, so followed hascode's instructions to get CM 12.1 on it, making this question no longer necessary =P Thanks for your concern
What happens when you come to update cm 12.1?twrp recovery would allow you to flash nightly updates to CM12.1
hmm? there's no problem updating cm. I was just on stock amazon fire os, which started to have problems with google play services , thus not able to start youtube app. So i gave up on fire os, added twrp, and CM 12.1, which seems to be working fine with youtube.
I have an Amazon Fire 7" 5th Gen. I just got it this week. It's running Fire OS 5.1.2. I've tried using the super tool to install the Google Play Store and it won't let me login to my account. I even completely rooted the Fire and still couldn't sign in. I did a hard reset and sideloaded the 5.1.2 firmware from scratch and followed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122 and still can't sign in. I've even sideloaded com.android.vending-5.9.12-80391200-minAPI9 and com.google.android.gms-7.0.97_(1791429-070)-7097070-minAPI9 manually and still can't sign in. I've checked both the host file (only has 127.0.0.1 localhost listed) and Iran the adb command giving com.google.android.gms permissions and still I can't login. I'm at a loss of things to try.
The tablet also keeps showing me the notification "An Application requires an update for Google, Requested by Google Play Services" and when I select that notification it takes me to the store and asks me to sign in which I can't do. Is there a newer version of one of the apps that I need to manually download and install?
Appears to be resolved
I appear to have resolved the issue.
I went to rootjunk's site and downloaded the ALL GAPPS package. I installed several of the GApps from that package including the PrebuiltGmsCore.apk. I then went through each Google app again and cleared the data and cache for each. Rebooted, and then I was finally able to add my google account and access the play store.
Not sure exactly why it was so screwy but at least it's working.
Baron164 said:
I appear to have resolved the issue.
I went to rootjunk's site and downloaded the ALL GAPPS package. I installed several of the GApps from that package including the PrebuiltGmsCore.apk. I then went through each Google app again and cleared the data and cache for each. Rebooted, and then I was finally able to add my google account and access the play store.
Not sure exactly why it was so screwy but at least it's working.
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I've just managed to root a Kindle Fire 5th gen using Supertool however I'm having the same issue when trying to sign into the Play Store.
I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to this stuff. Could you explain how you installed the GApps? I downloaded gapps-5.1-2015-05-23-24.zip from rootjunky but I'm not really sure where to go from there.
Would be a great help!
Thanks.
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Chrisseh said:
I've just managed to root a Kindle Fire 5th gen using Supertool however I'm having the same issue when trying to sign into the Play Store.
I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to this stuff. Could you explain how you installed the GApps? I downloaded gapps-5.1-2015-05-23-24.zip from rootjunky but I'm not really sure where to go from there.
Would be a great help!
Thanks.
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Scratch that. Managed to install it using Flashfire.
What do u mean using flash fire gaps there all 5.1 cm and below ? whaaat... Can ya step by step ? I've reinstalled this thing n trust so many APS n **** now the kindles had more use than a cardboard box near the soup kitchen. And still have exactly the same as the op
This worked for me. Amazon Fire 5th Gen 5.1.2 rolled back from 5.1.2.1.
Get root.
install flashfire.
download gapps-5.1-2015-05-23-24
flash zip using flashfire
delete data from google play services in manage apps from settings
reboot
login and its good.
note: it used to be the older login screen that was gray and blue and then after flashing it was the newer login screen from what looks like android 5.0?
Thankyou I'll give it a try now. I hope this works lol seems promising but ready to be declined again lol
Thankyou respect and credits you boss!!!
https://youtu.be/0QrMcQQJbqo
Hey tried this solution. I installed the gapps. Than rebooted the device. When I start Play Store it only gives me a white screen for 1 second. Any solutions?
EDIT: Worked! Thank you so much!
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Thankyou respect and credits you boss!!!
https://youtu.be/0QrMcQQJbqo
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I'm having the same problem but on a kindle fire hd 6 4th generation tablet... how do I fix this??
Hi
Samsung galaxy tab 8.9 P7300
I was working with a 4.44 rom and some days ago began popping up of "google play services has stopped".
I tried all procedure find on internet (clear cache/data of google play service, framework, google play...)
I reinstalled the rom 4.44 and tried new rom 7.1 with opengapps (nano/pico) with this sequence:
From twrp
clear data/system/cache/dalvik
Install rom+gapps
clear cache dalvik
reboot
and
SAME PROBLEM!
google play service version
10.2.98 430
help!
EDIT:
My workaround
Rom Android 7.1.1
Opengapps ver. 20170119 version (Google Play service ver. 10.0.84)
After automatic update, "disable" Google Play service and, automatically, restore ver. 10.0.84)
Disable system update on developer menù (waiting Google fix... hope)
Hi derekz2,
I spent the whole day yesterday dealing with the same issue as you do, but so far no luck, until now I have not been able to get it working. I tried Android versions 5.1.1, 6.0, 7.1.1 (different ROMs), but all of them have the same issue with Google Play services. I tried more gapps I found here, not just opengapps, but also some others that were meant to be used with that ROM (according to ROM's authors), but again, nothing helped. I also followed many suggestions I found online, still nothing. Recently I tried not to install gapps from recovery, I tried to download Google Play services from the web (I tried also older version 10.2.97) and install it manually, but the problem is still there. It seems that Google Play services somehow stopped being supported by this hardware, or I do not know... I will continue my troubleshooting further, but at the moment, I am also helpless and I would like to ask anyone for a help as well...
Thanks.
The 10.2.98 updated Play Services package is not woking for KitKat (4.4.x). Remove It and reinstall the last working package - the 10.0.84 for KK. And do uncheck Autoupdate in Play Market, or Android OS will download and install the 10.2.98 again.
Shame on Google for this "work"!
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It seems that Google Play services somehow stopped being supported by this hardware, or I do not know... I will continue my troubleshooting further, but at the moment, I am also helpless and I would like to ask anyone for a help as well...
Thanks.
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I think the same thing but is strange... it seems a decision too bad.
Now I try old version of gapps and without autoupdate the tablet can live but many apps want recent version of GPS...
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I think the same thing but is strange... it seems a decision too bad.
Now I try old version of gapps and without autoupdate the tablet can live but many apps want recent version of GPS...
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well, so far it seems that Google has done something in the latest GPS versions that is causing problems not just to us with this tablet, but to many different people on different platforms. Therefore, I believe/hope that Google will fix it soon... Anyway, try to check this thread, people are discussing GPS issue and trying different things to solve it. Let me know if something helps for you, I do not believe I will have time to test it myself today...
Thanks Skubko
The last Opengapps that is ok for 7.1 roms is 20170119 version (gps ver. 10.0.84), disable autoupdate and hope Google fix...
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Thanks Skubko
The last Opengapps that is ok for 7.1 roms is 20170119 version (gps ver. 10.0.84), disable autoupdate and hope Google fix...
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yes, I am planning to do that as a next step. For 6.0 ROM anyway, but also version 10.0.84, that should do the trick.. will see if other google application will want to work with older GPS and for how long... Also, I believe that once I connect to the internet afterwards, GPS will be automatically updated to the latest version (I do not think autoupdate option in google play will make any difference for GPS application)...
try to disable system update on developer menu of Android. (I see it on 7.1 version, don't know if present in previous versions)
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try to disable system update on developer menu of Android. (I see it on 7.1 version, don't know if present in previous versions)
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I can unfortunately report that this does not stop Google Play Services from updating... Will try the method mentioned in thread by skubko and report back in a bit....
codertimt said:
I can unfortunately report that this does not stop Google Play Services from updating... Will try the method mentioned in thread by skubko and report back in a bit....
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Well, I do have a working tablet again, but unfortunately don't have an exact procedure documented for a fix. I found a couple different threads online where other platforms are having the same issue and it has been tracked down to the latest play services using NEON instructions that are not supported by the older Tegra platform. And, as it's been over a month now, it's not clear if it will be fixed.
The basics of getting things working are to have file manager with root access available to you without wifi. It's possible that exactly what folders need to be created in /data/app/ depends on your Android version. I am working with the latest 7.1.1 build and all instruction I saw to create a folder named com.google.android.gms-1.apk and com.google.android.gms-2.apk did not work. At least not by themselves...on my successful attempt, I created them still, but also created a folder com.google.android.gms-1 as that is where the update came down on my system...so I deleted the existed folder of that name and created an empty one. Again, I don't have an exact procedure...but I will line out some steps that might help someone...
Have working, rooted 7.1.1 install.
Download opengapps from 20170119, phh superuser apk, root file explorer apk.
Factory reset in recovery, install opengapps, wipe cache again for giggles.
Go through setup without setting up wifi, install phh, install root file explorer.
Create folder /data/app/com.google.android.gms-1...maybe the other 2 mentioned above also.
Enable wifi and continue with life. You will have to sideload older versions of some google apps. The latest Google Maps wouldn't work for me...I just searched for the last version before that magic Jan 19th date...that seems to be working fine.
Caveat to this is that this is not exactly what I did to get things working...it is what I think should work. I was actually trying to follow another post that was trying to use a system app remover app to downgrade the google play services...never could get it to work...but stumbled upon something that did work...so I'll lay out those steps...
Have working, rooted 7.1.1 install that has crashing google play services.
Disable wifi
Create the folders mentioned above in /data/app.
Go to Settings->Apps->Google Play Services->Disable. This allowed me to roll back the install of the latest Google play services.
In my case it rolled back to the very previous version..because that is the version I installed from opengapps in recovery...it might roll back to whatever was originally flashed. In that case you can find a 10.0.84 google play services apk...I could never get it to install on mine...but that might have been because I already had a newer version when I was attempting to install.
Enable wifi and possibly sideload some stuff like above...
So, for other Android versions, steps should be similar...perhaps that's when the folders ending in apk will come into play. If there was a reasonably priced >8.5" and <9.5" tablet...preferably with 16:10 aspect ratio and higher pixel density than the Galaxy Tab 8.9 I would buy it...unfortunately such a device doesn't exist. May look into a used Nexus 9...until then it appears I am at least stable again...
Thx guys for your feedback here! Got same problem, that google services stopped working and my tab is crashing nonstop... Its unusable but i think a i will update to android latest rom for next 10 years
What version of play services do I need?
10.0.84 (???
beta version of Google Play Services (version 10.5.42) have resolved the Google Play Services issues.
i have same problem here.... rom is stock based 5.1.1. and working fine, but today it start showing "google play services has stopped" every time when i turn wifi on. :/ this is my daughter "netflix-machine" and she is very sad. is there any fix for that ?
Same here, but solved (with Android N 7.1)
lorvix said:
i have same problem here.... rom is stock based 5.1.1. and working fine, but today it start showing "google play services has stopped" every time when i turn wifi on. :/ this is my daughter "netflix-machine" and she is very sad. is there any fix for that ?
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How I spent an afternoon
I already tried aosp-5.1.1-p5wifi-20150513 with open_gapps-arm-5.1-pico-20170324 and again with open_gapps-arm-5.1-pico-20170119 as advised here, both resulting in the same bug
Then I installed aosp-6.0-p5wifi-20160131 with open_gapps-arm-6.0-pico-20170324 over TWRP resulting in the same "google play services has stopped" every few seconds
When I fully wiped the device, reinstalled the above aosp image and added open_gapps-arm-6.0-pico-20170119 from github, I had the same *** again
Then I decided to go "all-in" and first installed a new version of TWRP from here and followed the guide to install Android N from here and installed the google apps from here and SU from phh.
And it WORKED
Yay
PS: best use adb push to send the files to the device
PS2: you need to select the keyboard first upon entering the wifi credentials
yes, i get solution for that.....i remove google play service updates and registering to beta user, then it's update beta version 10.5.48 and that's works fine now
i don't know what i did ,this tablet was working fine for 2 years with RR custom rom i used root junky tools to root and install RR custom rom,pico gaps, xposedframework ,and android custom boot animation from 5.0,1 , it was working one second and then all of a sudden the google app , gmail ,and youtube all say
" "app name" relies on google play services which is not supported by your device ,contact manufacturer "
how do i fix this and how did it happen? funny thing is that the play store still works and apps can update but i can't use any google apps
all i did was log into a secondary account and then try and install the google app which was already installed on the primary account , the google app stopped working then it worked and then it stopped again and now none of the google apps will work on either account,how do i fix this?
google play services version is 11.9.75(230-182402865)
i tried uninstalling the google app from the secondary account and then tried using gmail and youtube on the secondary account and it does not work, then tried on the primary account and it does not work , then i tried uninstalling the google app from the primary account
and rebooting , and it still does not work
how can i fix this without having to reflash everything?
how do i stop this from happening again?
and i have 2 other tablets i set ap the same way only on those i used flash fire because they were on 5.1.1 i think
do i now have to worry about it happening to those tablets too?
should i not ever update or install any google apps from the play store again?
update: ok this is really strange , i booted one of my other tablets i set up the same way only it was flashed with flash fire from 5.1.1 instead of 5.0.1 and TWRP
(i have 3 5th gen fire 7's running RR custom rom, root, with xposed , 2 were on 5.1.1 and flashed with flash fire and one was on 5.0.1 and flashed with TWRP , all with root junky tools)
i first went to gmail and then to youtube both worked fine , then i went to the play store and i updated an app , not an app that uses play services though,
then i noticed a notification pop up that said something about google play services not being supported on the device , so i went to launch gmail again and then it was doing the same thing as it was on the other tablet , then i launched youtube , and same thing
then like a minute later after closing the apps and trying them again , they worked fine
i really would like to to know what is going on here
next i will try the 3rd tablet, , that one was the last one i set up and has the least apps on it
just to be clear here the play store works just fine , i can update ,install and uninstall apps through it
and my account is visible in the playstore and my accounts show up in the tablet
just cant get any google apps like gmail ,youtube , google plus and the google app working
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i tried uninstalling the google app from the secondary account and then tried using gmail and youtube on the secondary account and it does not work, then tried on the primary account and it does not work , then i tried uninstalling the google app from the primary account
and rebooting , and it still does not work
how can i fix this without having to reflash everything?
how do i stop this from happening again?
and i have 2 other tablets i set ap the same way only on those i used flash fire because they were on 5.1.1 i think
do i now have to worry about it happening to those tablets too?
should i not ever update or install any google apps from the play store again?
update: ok this is really strange , i booted one of my other tablets i set up the same way only it was flashed with flash fire from 5.1.1 instead of 5.0.1 and TWRP
(i have 3 5th gen fire 7's running RR custom rom, root, with xposed , 2 were on 5.1.1 and flashed with flash fire and one was on 5.0.1 and flashed with TWRP , all with root junky tools)
i first went to gmail and then to youtube both worked fine , then i went to the play store and i updated an app , not an app that uses play services though,
then i noticed a notification pop up that said something about google play services not being supported on the device , so i went to launch gmail again and then it was doing the same thing as it was on the other tablet , then i launched youtube , and same thing
then like a minute later after closing the apps and trying them again , they worked fine
i really would like to to know what is going on here
next i will try the 3rd tablet, , that one was the last one i set up and has the least apps on it
just to be clear here the play store works just fine , i can update ,install and uninstall apps through it
and my account is visible in the playstore and my accounts show up in the tablet
just cant get any google apps like gmail ,youtube , google plus and the google app working
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Google (any many 3rd party) apps rely on Google Play Services for core/shared functionality. Play Services/Framework is supposed to seemlessly auto-update in the background and usually does. Believe you saw that happen on your 2nd tablet. For whatever reason the framework appears borked on the 1st device.
As previously advised fixing Google Play Services issues is difficult/unreliable without a fresh install. Given you can boot twrp on the device having this issue I suggest the following:
- boot into TWRP and backup the current (nonworking) environment
- dirty flash RR, SuperSU and a suitable OpenGApps package
- verify everything is working correctly
- proceed to a 'clean' flash if the trouble persists
Dirty flashing will preserve existing apps/data/settings and is obviously less disruptive. Effectively the way a FireOS OTA update works. However, it doesn't always work and can create additional problems.
Davey126 said:
Google (any many 3rd party) apps rely on Google Play Services for core/shared functionality. Play Services/Framework is supposed to seemlessly auto-update in the background and usually does. Believe you saw that happen on your 2nd tablet. For whatever reason the framework appears borked on the 1st device.
As previously advised fixing Google Play Services issues is difficult/unreliable without a fresh install. Given you can boot twrp on the device having this issue I suggest the following:
- boot into TWRP and backup the current (nonworking) environment
- dirty flash RR, SuperSU and a suitable OpenGApps package
- verify everything is working correctly
- proceed to a 'clean' flash if the trouble persists
Dirty flashing will preserve existing apps/data/settings and is obviously less disruptive. Effectively the way a FireOS OTA update works. However, it doesn't always work and can create additional problems.
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ok thanks so what kind of additional problems? nothing serious like bricking right?
i do not know the difference between clean and dirty flash so how would i go about that from TWRP
i don't even remember how to get TWRP , i assume i need to get the tablet into fastboot ,i also forgot how i do that
and i may have uninstalled the clockwork mod driver from my PC not sure if i need those or not
is there a guide you can link me to on how to get the tablet into tethered TWRP and which option i need to select from it , i think i have the files i used for the initial flash somewhere i should be able to find those, the RR rom, gapps ,
super SU
also where would the backup go exactly? to an SD card? would you happen to know how much space i would need , if it goes to internal then how do i get the backup to Sd?
also what about xposed framework would that remain intact after a "dirty flash"
should i also add the xposed framework to the zip at the time of dirty flash if not or would i have to do after?
i can not remember too much about how i set this thing up and this is probably the only time i have ever used TWRP , the other 2 tablets i used FF
also could i just a dirty flash from FF? , guess i should use TWRP since i can note make a backup with FF right?
EDIT: i really have no clue what i am doing here ,what are the chances that when google play services updates in the background next time it will just fix itself? should i wait a few weeks and see if it corrects itself 1st?
gdroid666 said:
EDIT: i really have no clue what i am doing here ,what are the chances that when google play services updates in the background next time it will just fix itself? should i wait a few weeks and see if it corrects itself 1st?
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Try updating Google Play Services from here. It usually doesn't work but worth a shot given your level of familiarity with managing your custom build.
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Try updating Google Play Services from here. It usually doesn't work but worth a shot given your level of familiarity with managing your custom build.
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yeah i tried it a few times ,rebooted and tried again and it is snot working
it is weird because on gmail i can click outside the message box that says no google play services and then i see my gmail account and it says getting your messages , and syncing but it just hangs forever and with youtube i get notifications for new videos for channels i am subbed to, when i click on the notification and open youtube from there the video plays but there is no video just audio and the no google play services message is there and everything is greyed out but i can hear the sound from the video
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yeah i tried it a few times ,rebooted and tried again and it is snot working
it is weird because on gmail i can click outside the message box that says no google play services and then i see my gmail account and it says getting your messages , and syncing but it just hangs forever and with youtube i get notifications for new videos for channels i am subbed to, when i click on the notification and open youtube from there the video plays but there is no video just audio and the no google play services message is there and everything is greyed out but i can hear the sound from the video
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Yep - not unexpected from a borked Play Services is install. You're probably gonna have to bit the bullet and perform a fresh install. At that time it may be wise to consider a shift to a different ROM. Nothing wrong with RR but it isn't being updated which could eventually lead to further issues.
Davey126 said:
Yep - not unexpected from a borked Play Services is install. You're probably gonna have to bit the bullet and perform a fresh install. At that time it may be wise to consider a shift to a different ROM. Nothing wrong with RR but it isn't being updated which could eventually lead to further issues.
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well the rom is working on the other 2 tablets it acted up for a minute then worked again on one of them
i am wondering if that issue could be because i had the internal memory maxed out?
it was almost 100% full then i started moving some apps to the sd card , maybe it tried to update and ran out of memory or something and got only partially updated?
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well the rom is working on the other 2 tablets it acted up for a minute then worked again on one of them
i am wondering if that issue could be because i had the internal memory maxed out?
it was almost 100% full then i started moving some apps to the sd card , maybe it tried to update and ran out of memory or something and got only partially updated?
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Possibly. Trying to perform forensics w/o supporting data is a bit of a fools errand. What happened to your device is neither common nor rare. I would focus on remediation which likely means an uncomfortable rebuild (due to unfamiliarity with procedures). You are fortunate to have TWRP access which removes most of the risk. Unless it self-resolves (unlikely) you're going to have to get your hands dirty one way or the other.
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Possibly. Trying to perform forensics w/o supporting data is a bit of a fools errand. What happened to your device is neither common nor rare. I would focus on remediation which likely means an uncomfortable rebuild (due to unfamiliarity with procedures). You are fortunate to have TWRP access which removes most of the risk. Unless it self-resolves (unlikely) you're going to have to get your hands dirty one way or the other.
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so what would the risk be if i were to try and side load the .APK's for the play services to try and fix it that way?
which .apk's would i need and in what order would i need to install them , is it worth a shot to try and manually install them from .apk and see hat happens?
if not and i need to do twrp route then would i install the xposed framework zip at the same time
can i flash the rom , gapps, super su , xposed, and custom boot animation zips or would i need to reboot 1st , which order would be best to line them up in TWRP to flash
also what do i do for dirty flash, ? just not wipe anything like dalvik cache? what do i wipe and not wipe?
ok i have booted into TWRP and i made a backup of everything including cache
now how would i go about dirty flashing
i just want to know what to do about xposed , will it remain in tact if i dirty flash the rom , gapps and super SU ?
or do i need to add the xposed zip when i do the dirty flash? would i need to also side load the xposed installer .apk after too again?
in what order do i need to add the zips to the install list? and what do i need to wipe and not wipe and what order?
gdroid666 said:
ok i have booted into TWRP and i made a backup of everything including cache
now how would i go about dirty flashing
i just want to know what to do about xposed , will it remain in tact if i dirty flash the rom , gapps and super SU ?
or do i need to add the xposed zip when i do the dirty flash? would i need to also side load the xposed installer .apk after too again?
in what order do i need to add the zips to the install list? and what do i need to wipe and not wipe and what order?
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As a precaution you should copy (not move) the TWRP folder to off-line storage. If the folder is located in the external SD card that's reasonably safe. Take a deep breath and proceed as follows:
- verify you have all of the required zips located somewhere on the device or external SD card
- boot into TWRP
- wipe the system partition ONLY
- install the following zips in the order listed (individually or as a group; doesn't matter):
--> RR ROM
--> GApps package (suggest arm/5.1/nano; nothing larger than mini)
--> SuperSU 2.76 or 2.82 SR5 (avoid versions between 2.76 and 2.82)
--> Xposed Framework v89
Once all the of installations are complete accept the offer to wipe cache/dalvik and then reboot system.
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As a precaution you should copy (not move) the TWRP folder to off-line storage. If the folder is located in the external SD card that's reasonably safe. Take a deep breath and proceed as follows:
- verify you have all of the required zips located somewhere on the device or external SD card
- boot into TWRP
- wipe the system partition ONLY
- install the following zips in the order listed (individually or as a group; doesn't matter):
--> RR ROM
--> GApps package (suggest arm/5.1/nano; nothing larger than mini)
--> SuperSU 2.76 or 2.82 SR5 (avoid versions between 2.76 and 2.82)
--> Xposed Framework v89
Once all the of installations are complete accept the offer to wipe cache/dalvik and then reboot system.
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ok i am back again , i still have not done the dirty flash yet because i have been busy
i will probably try it soon with the original files i used to flash the rom and xposed with
but first i would like to get your input on this theory i have
ok i am thinking that because i have 3 5th gen fire 7 tablets all rooted and running custom roms ,and only one is having a problem , and that the one with the problem is the one with TWRP /unlocked bootloader
that this may be the cause of the problem
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/
i have the same pico gapps flashed on all 3 devices but only one device has the unlocked bootloader
and that is the broken device , and the message that i get says " [app name] relies on google play services which is not supported by your device.please contact the device manufacturer"
i went into the play store under settings it did indeed say that the device is uncertified
i then installed an app to get my GFS device ID ,and converted the hexadecimal number into a decimal number and successfully submitted it to the whitelist site google/android/uncertified
it still did not fix the problem , then i cleared data and cache of the play store in settings/apps/play store
and tried again and nothing still , then i checked in play store settings and saw it no longer says incertified but it the field is gone completely now it does not say uncertified but it does not say certified either
then i went back to settings /apps/ google play store and removed updates and reverted back to factory play store and checked settings again there is still no field where the uncertified used to be and it is still not working
and now i don't know how to get the play store to update to latest version aside from sideloading it
i am not sure what to do next but what do you think about my tablet being broken because google now blocking gapps on uncertified devices as being the cause for this issue ,seems really strange to me that only the one tablet with the unlocked bootloader is being affected
but why did the whitelist also not work then ,i am really confused now and i am not seeing any other posts here about similar issues
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ok i am back again , i still have not done the dirty flash yet because i have been busy
i will probably try it soon with the original files i used to flash the rom and xposed with
but first i would like to get your input on this theory i have
ok i am thinking that because i have 3 5th gen fire 7 tablets all rooted and running custom roms ,and only one is having a problem , and that the one with the problem is the one with TWRP /unlocked bootloader
that this may be the cause of the problem
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-blocks-gapps-uncertified-devices-custom-rom-whitelist/
i have the same pico gapps flashed on all 3 devices but only one device has the unlocked bootloader
and that is the broken device , and the message that i get says " [app name] relies on google play services which is not supported by your device.please contact the device manufacturer"
i went into the play store under settings it did indeed say that the device is uncertified
i then installed an app to get my GFS device ID ,and converted the hexadecimal number into a decimal number and successfully submitted it to the whitelist site google/android/uncertified
it still did not fix the problem , then i cleared data and cache of the play store in settings/apps/play store
and tried again and nothing still , then i checked in play store settings and saw it no longer says incertified but it the field is gone completely now it does not say uncertified but it does not say certified either
then i went back to settings /apps/ google play store and removed updates and reverted back to factory play store and checked settings again there is still no field where the uncertified used to be and it is still not working
and now i don't know how to get the play store to update to latest version aside from sideloading it
i am not sure what to do next but what do you think about my tablet being broken because google now blocking gapps on uncertified devices as being the cause for this issue ,seems really strange to me that only the one tablet with the unlocked bootloader is being affected
but why did the whitelist also not work then ,i am really confused now and i am not seeing any other posts here about similar issues
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Your non-functioning tablet does NOT have an "unlocked bootloader". It has a coding oversight that allows a custom recovery (TWRP) to be booted from fastboot. In all other respects it is identical to the other two from a capability/signature perspective.
The policy change/enforcement you reference is not the cause as Google only starting blocking access a couple weeks ago. Nor will it likely impact this device based on my interpretation of the criteria Google applies.
What to do next? Reload as previously outlined. I also recommend (rather strongly) that you consider migrating to a supported ROM. At present that's either Fire Nexus or Lineage.
ok i finally got around to doing this
after the flash everything looked good, but i am still getting no play services , can't open youtube or gmail still
i get play services not supported by this device
gdroid666 said:
ok i finally got around to doing this
after the flash everything looked good, but i am still getting no play services , can't open youtube or gmail still
i get play services not supported by this device
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Sorry to hear that. Best move on to second recommendation from previous post.
Davey126 said:
Sorry to hear that. Best move on to second recommendation from previous post.
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from what i have been reading trying to find a fix that probably will not work either
looks like a lot of people having this issue even with real android devices with factory roms including samsung phones on N and lenovo tablets
this OS is really turning into a complete dumpster fire, Google should have provided a fix but i feel that they are deliberately causing these issues to kill devices to drive sales or for some other nefarious purpose
either that or they are just totally incompetent
i have not seen a single person who posted that they have this issue get a resolution to it
how is this acceptable how have they not been sued for this yet?
i understand that this is a hacked Amazon device but this issue seems to persist across legit devices with factory roms as well and there is no official solution what are people to do if they bought an expensive Samsung device and have this unsolvable issue?
just toss it in the bin and buy a new one i guess
i can;t beleive there is no solution that is as simple as installing some .apk's
gdroid666 said:
from what i have been reading trying to find a fix that probably will not work either
looks like a slot of people having this issue even with real android devices with factory rom including samsung phone on N and lenovo tabets
this OS is really turning into a complete dumpster fire, Google should have provided a fix but i feel that they are deliberately causing these issues to kill devices to drive sales or for some other nefarious purpose
either that or they are just totally incompetent
i have not seen a single person who posted that they have this issue get a resolution to it
how is this acceptable how have they not been sues for this yet?
i understand that this is a hacked Amazon device but this issue seems to persist across legit devices with factory roms as well and there is no official solution what are people to do if they bought an expensive Samsung device and have this unsolvable issue?
just toss it in the bin and buy a new one i guess
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Sorry, don't subscribe to that line of thought. Google Play Services issues are largely self inflicted and almost always resolvable. Move to a supported ROM and the problem will likely go away. If you dumpster it in favor of something different stay away from current gen Amazon gizmos. With exception to the HD 10 none are rootable. Good luck.
Davey126 said:
Sorry, don't subscribe to that line of thought. Google Play Services issues are largely self inflicted and almost always resolvable. Move to a supported ROM and the problem will likely go away. If you dumpster it in favor of something different stay away from current gen Amazon gizmos. With exception to the HD 10 none are rootable. Good luck.
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Yes i will try a new rom i guess which one is the most like the one i have now ?
and do you happen to know if any of them will support casting from the quick settings shade?
I actually did just buy the fire HD 10 on prime day for that very reason
but besides root what exactly can be done with it?
I mean no there are no custom roms or TWRP yet right
is anyone working on TWRP or a custom rom?
I kinda think i might want to leave it on fire OS to try out the always listening Alexa and Alexa show capabilities
Is it like the fire 7 where i can already remove lock screen ads install play store and change the launcher to nova without root even?
What does root allow on the HD 10 that is useful right now?
Would it possible to install xposed and youtube adaway on it with fire OS?
I have not opened it yet so do all current FW's support root still?
does the FW that added the Alexa show capabilities to fire OS still support root?
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Yes i will try a new rom i guess which one is the most like the one i have now ?
and do you happen to know if any of them will support casting from the quick settings shade?
I actually did just buy the fire HD 10 on prime day for that very reason
but besides root what exactly can be done with it?
I mean no there are no custom roms or TWRP yet right
is anyone working on TWRP or a custom rom?
I kinda think i might want to leave it on fire OS to try out the always listening Alexa and Alexa show capabilities
Is it like the fire 7 where i can already remove lock screen ads install play store and change the launcher to nova without root even?
What does root allow on the HD 10 that is useful right now?
Would it possible to install xposed and youtube adaway on it with fire OS?
I have not opened it yet so do all current FW's support root still?
does the FW that added the Alexa show capabilities to fire OS still support root?
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- I would go with Fire Nexus + Xposed and a few select modules for maximum flexibility if seeking to mimic the RR UX
- head here for the latest developments on HD 10 platform
- nothing wrong with curated FireOS + xposed once rooted. I ran with that config for quite some time with no regrets