Phone and charger damaging data cables - Moto G5S Plus Questions & Answers

My phone is behaving weirdly.
Whenever I use the original fast charger to charge the phone, the data cable stops working from next charge onwards. It's damaged 4 cables so far.
Sometimes it doesn't charge despite being on charge and showing the same status. In fact the battery keeps discharging (e.g. put on charge when battery was 57, it becomes 53 despite showing charging status)
I know going to service center is the last resort. If anyone has any suggestion, please share.

tarun0 said:
My phone is behaving weirdly.
Whenever I use the original fast charger to charge the phone, the data cable stops working from next charge onwards. It's damaged 4 cables so far.
Sometimes it doesn't charge despite being on charge and showing the same status. In fact the battery keeps discharging (e.g. put on charge when battery was 57, it becomes 53 despite showing charging status)
I know going to service center is the last resort. If anyone has any suggestion, please share.
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Please observe the attached screenshot. Despite the battery showing plugged in on status bar, the CPU Z shows battery is not charging.

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tilt battery charges slowly.

Within the last few days I've notice that my phone is charging at unbelievable slow rate via the wall charge that was supplied. I usually get a full charge in maybe 1-2 hr depending on what percentage the battery is at. Once it is fully charge it hold the charge, but when it drains then it would take like 6 hrs to do a full charge. I've tried to soft reset it to see if the percentage goes up, but it stay the same. I turn off the phone to let it charge, but it still charge at a slow rate. I'm wondering is it time to purchase a new battery.
What do you think? And is there any other test I can do?
The slow charge could be one of a few things... One could be the battery as you suspect (and probally most likely).. Also, are you chargign the phone in a diffrent place? If the battery gets too warm from lack of circulation, it will not charge (or just charge much mroe slowly).. It also could be that your USB port is starting to go... IF you have a stand alogn abattery charger available for it (like one on a docking station) try to charge it on there and see if it still charges as slowly.. Another though could be if you are charging it in your car while using GPS or Wifi.. IF those are left on, they suck down the battery a lot faster and thus it uses the electricity as fast as it can pull it in.. I woudl suggest powering the phone down while charging.. that could also help...
i always charge it in the same spot since i got the phone. i dont have a dock charger. its weird last night i was at 49 and i turn off the phone completely and plug it in. woke up today the orange light indicating that it was charging still was on. turn on the phone and it was at 55 percent. WTF!!!!!!!!!!
I guess that touch pro 2 better come out soon.
itzstevo said:
i always charge it in the same spot since i got the phone. i dont have a dock charger. its weird last night i was at 49 and i turn off the phone completely and plug it in. woke up today the orange light indicating that it was charging still was on. turn on the phone and it was at 55 percent. WTF!!!!!!!!!!
I guess that touch pro 2 better come out soon.
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i have the same problem. Its either your USB port or the charger, so simply go buy a new charger and if it still does it the port is bad....if not, problem solved
or put it in your computer to charge, that avoids buying a new charger.
usb charging is always slower then wallplug charging as usb can only provide
5v * 0.5Amps == 2.5Watt
where
wall charger can provide as much watt
as the charger is made to
but of cause the pda will only draw as much
amps as it was made to support

[Q] Charging Query on Stock 5.0.1

I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
walkerx said:
I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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Not sure, I don't use stock or the stock charger. I would have thought the stock charger trickle charged. I remember my HTC desire used to charge to 100%, discharge to 90 and then charge to 100% in a loop as it didn't trickle charge.
Make sure your using a cable that supports data as well. My stock 5.01 and stock charger/cable does trickle charge.
It's perfectly normal to see this in such devices, though if it were going any lower I'd investigate further.
Maintaining a constant flow to the battery would burn it out so the charge gets it to full and then cuts out, allowing a little discharging and cooling of the battery. Once it gets to certain point, it'll start to juice the battery again.
Sent from my Nexus 6
thanks for the replies - I've not seen it drop below 90%, but I know if remove the charger and plug back in, it will start charging as normal - another thing I have recently noticed is that when you do plug charger in, initially it switches between battery/charger a few times and then starts properly charging - I wonder if this is feature of the phone or lollipop causing this. - other than this phone seems to work fine and have had over 2 days on a full charge
Well got it to drop to 80% while plugged in and it didn't start charging again until pulled cable and put back in
what charger are you using? i leave my n6 on a charger for hours after it hits 100%, and it never ever drops. id even say that when it hits 100% it doesnt stop charging. it keeps charging, with a much less inflow of charge than normal, but its still charging. for about 30min before it stops charging. then it just stays at 100%. sometimes i have it plugged in for 8-10 hours after, never once did it go to 99%. this is while using stock, and custom roms.
walkerx said:
I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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The new gen chargers actually cut the power when the battery Actually hits 99% and show it as 100% and stop it charging. But when the 100% drop to 99% (which is not actually visible), it automatically starts charging. But discharging the battery more than 1% is not actually a Normal thing, I should say. I also do charge over-night, never evidenced such thing. I'll suggest you to try with different turbo charger if you have one.
I'm using the stock charger got with the phone. I did contact Motorola over this and they were useless. I know charger works as charges to 100%. But it then just stops.
I have performed a factory reset to see how it goes tonight.
If still no good will speak with CPW and see what they say as don't fancy having to send off based on some of the forum posts
I have no issues with my N4 which has been connected to a power source for days and still shows 100%
I have also noticed that on the N6 when powered off and charge it doesn't show that it is charging
taken it into CPW and they have sent it off for repair - been told 16 days - at least with apple it's near enough same day, shame can't do same with android phones
I had called Motorola uk support and was promised email confirmation of call and also call back this morning regarding the phone and have had neither
back to my Nexus 4 for time being, just hope my Nexus 6 don't come back with any scratches, etc
I use a Qi charger, and notice this exact thing. Charge until it claims to be full, then stop altogether. So I set it on the pad when I go to bed, and wake up to it not charging and being down to around 95%. I was thinking that it was a characteristic of Qi, but when we got another (identical) Qi pad for the wife's Hammerhead, it "appears" to remain in charging mode indefinitely. Our Qi pads have a blinking white light when they are "charging".
what happens if you just plug the charger directly to the phone so not using the wireless Qi charger, do you get the same fault
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I use a Qi charger, and notice this exact thing. Charge until it claims to be full, then stop altogether. So I set it on the pad when I go to bed, and wake up to it not charging and being down to around 95%. I was thinking that it was a characteristic of Qi, but when we got another (identical) Qi pad for the wife's Hammerhead, it "appears" to remain in charging mode indefinitely. Our Qi pads have a blinking white light when they are "charging".
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Hammerhead does act differently to the shamu. I have both and used them both on the same qi.
Hammerhead trickle charges. Charging icon remains until picked up off charger.
Shamu stops at 100%, charging icon disappears. However, when I remove my Shamu, its always 100% or 99%.. Its never lower.
walkerx said:
what happens if you just plug the charger directly to the phone so not using the wireless Qi charger, do you get the same fault
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Good question. But judging by the rest of this thread, I suspect that it will behave the same with a wire as with the Qi. I don't ever actually use the wire to charge, since the ballistic maxx case makes access to the USB plug inconvenient.
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rootSU said:
Hammerhead does act differently to the shamu. I have both and used them both on the same qi.
Hammerhead trickle charges. Charging icon remains until picked up off charger.
Shamu stops at 100%, charging icon disappears. However, when I remove my Shamu, its always 100% or 99%.. Its never lower.
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I wonder if that could be a coincidence....? I.e., either you aren't leaving it on long enough for the percent to drop lower than that, or leaving it on long enough that it initiates a top-up just before you disconnect it.
Ok, so looking at the DT for the device....
https://android.googlesource.com/ke...ot/dts/apq8084-shamu/apq8084-moto-common.dtsi
Look at lines ranging from 823 to 854 for the smb1357 block.
Note low-voltage-uv = 2750000, max-voltage-uv = 4350000
In mv, that would be 2750 and 4350 respectively. That makes for a range of 1600 mV.
The recharge-thresh-mv = 200
Assuming a *relatively* linear voltage/percentage curve, 200/1600 * 100 = 12.5%. It won't be quite that linear, but this is adequate to give a rough idea of the charge cycle breadth in percentage points.
recharge-thresh-mv accepts values of 50, 100, 200, or 300. The smaller the value is, the tighter the recharge threshold becomes. At 50, we would be looking at roughly 3%.
So my conclusion: working as intended.
There is another aspect that becomes involved when using Qi, which is the bq51021. This one has a parameter "resume-vbatt-mv" set to a value of 4270 mV. That is 80 mV below full, or roughly 5%. Judging by only the name of the parameter, it sounds like it sets a Qi charge cycle breadth of 5%, but I don't understand the relationship between the bq51021 and the smb1357. I suspect that the two have to agree for Qi charging to work.
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I wonder if that could be a coincidence....? I.e., either you aren't leaving it on long enough for the percent to drop lower than that, or leaving it on long enough that it initiates a top-up just before you disconnect it.
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I don't think so. I put it on the charger at pretty much the same time and take it off at pretty much the same time but starting from different % remaining every day... If it did drop to 90%, i would have caught it at least once by now.
update: whatever you do if you are uk customer and purchased via CPW do not take it back to them - i found out today that they are not accredited repairers and they should have advised me it needed to go to Motorola - now trying to find out what is happening with my phone and when to get it back
I'm still trying to understand how my Nexus 6 works with Qi charging, and the results are a bit inconsistent.
I'm using an LG WCD-100 stand and a BlackBerry Blade charger, both of which are reported to work well with the Nexus 6 (in portrait).
I've had my Nexus 6 on the dock on my desk in work this week, and have been keeping an eye on it. I have the screen on all the time (so I can keep an eye on incoming personal emails). Most of the time the N6 charges to 100%. It then stops charging until it get to about 98%, at which time it starts charging again. So far so good. HOWEVER, on a few occasions it did not start to recharge (even with the battery down to the 70's), and I had to remove it from the charger for a few moments and then put it back before it would start charging again.
I'll try again next week (I'm only desk-bound Tue/Wed/Thu) with a different Qi charger, just in case there's a problem with the one I'm using (though I doubt it).
In the meantime, has anybody seen similar behaviour - or is it time to talk to Motorola UK Support?
the charging issue with it not starting again is the same as what i'm having on wired connection - if you install something like gsam battery monitor you can see that it is discharging while actually charging
I also have the LG WCD-100 (from when I had the LG G3) but not actually using it as I think first time tried you have to get it in the correct area for it to charge
I had problems with my Nokia charger. Because this phone is big and the back of the Nokia was less than half way up the back of the phone, the weight of the too of the phone pushed the bottom of the phone away from the charger.. Imagine the phone as a see saw and the top of the back of the charger as the pivot point. Also the unflat back didn't help

P9 won't charge after battery replacemnet

So like the title said i have replaced the battery in my P9, with an original battery. It has the same part number and all that. I have noticed that the phone won't charge the replacement battery, i have returned the new battery in warranty and revived another one. Same thing, the phone starts up as soon as you plug in any kind of power source to it , like a charger, but no charging notification. The notification light pulses in rare intervals (some thing of 10 secs or more) but it's not steadily on like when normally charging. And the most vexing thing is : if i replace the original battery it charges. Unfortunately the the original battery now has the bad habit of cutting out on me at random from anywhere 47% or bellow .... The phone is nearly 3 year old now.
Have you given the new batteries some time to charge? Maybe they were delivered to you fully discharged.
First one was on 85% the second on 60% or so. I kept the 1st one on charger for a whole weekend... Still nothing
Have you tried to callibrate the original battery (you say it suddenly drops if below 40%)?
Yes, I have allowed the battery to run down to 3% and the phone turning itself off. Then fully charged it while being off. So the original battery is just plain old, nearly 3y old. The problem is that the phone refuses to charge the new batteries regardless of original charge. Also it turns automatically on when you plug in a charger, not just showing the charge animation. That is not normal behavior.
olaf2k4 said:
Recalibrate how?
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Did you try to search?!
There is a thread on battery calibration (XDA, Huawei P9, Q and A
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75592069&postcount=18
zgfg said:
Did you try to search?!
There is a thread on battery calibration (XDA, Huawei P9, Q and A
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75592069&postcount=18
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I've done that after reading you'r message , but i have already done the steps not req root. And i'm not willing to root my phone.
P9 also not charging
Did you manage to find a resolution to this issues? I'm having the same problem with my P9. I changed my battery, and it now won't charge. It turns on ok, and everything seems to be working. When I plug in the charging cable, it makes the sound it usually does, the battery symbol flashes green but instantly turns white again. When the phone is off, plugging the cable in switches it on, but no charge. I've had two replacement batteries, both have the same issue. Also, the original battery is now doing the same. I'm wondering if I damaged something while removing the battery.
domj81 said:
Did you manage to find a resolution to this issues? I'm having the same problem with my P9. I changed my battery, and it now won't charge. It turns on ok, and everything seems to be working. When I plug in the charging cable, it makes the sound it usually does, the battery symbol flashes green but instantly turns white again. When the phone is off, plugging the cable in switches it on, but no charge. I've had two replacement batteries, both have the same issue. Also, the original battery is now doing the same. I'm wondering if I damaged something while removing the battery.
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I think it's problem in charging IC or port.
Hi all
Had same issue with replacement battery
After replacement battery isn't charging. Problem is in bad connections
(probably from long shelf storage connectors got rusty)
Voltage was fine but temperature reading was way off (very low -2) and phone didn't charge battery
Problem is that there was no error message about battery temp.
After cleaning the contactors battery reading became normal and it started charging
Anybody ever had any solution to this problem? I have the same issue. Battery replaced - not taking any charge. If micro USB charger plugged in - the phone turns on. If it is already turned on plugging in the charger the screen flashes the % of the charge and nothing.

Pixel 5 - Charging problems

Has anyone else notice problems charging yet?
When charging using the supplied adapter, the battery percentage stops increasing at some point. 46% or 67% etc it just stays stuck even though the charging symbol remains.
The phone stays hot like it is charging, but it still says '46% 1 hour remaining to fully charge etc'. If you leave it for an hour, it stays at 46%. If you unplug and restart the phone, it will be at 100%.
I hope this is a software bug? It seems others are impacted too. google support link below.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/77815758?hl=en
Mine is working fine
Same error, but on 92%. I didn't restart the phone, and after 5 hours without charger battery level went down normally.
mcgon1979 said:
Has anyone else notice problems charging yet?
When charging using the supplied adapter, the battery percentage stops increasing at some point. 46% or 67% etc it just stays stuck even though the charging symbol remains.
The phone stays hot like it is charging, but it still says '46% 1 hour remaining to fully charge etc'. If you leave it for an hour, it stays at 46%. If you unplug and restart the phone, it will be at 100%.
I hope this is a software bug? It seems others are impacted too. google support link below.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/77815758?hl=en
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Same for me here. I'm monitoring the issue until next week and then decide what to do
mcgon1979 said:
Has anyone else notice problems charging yet?
When charging using the supplied adapter, the battery percentage stops increasing at some point. 46% or 67% etc it just stays stuck even though the charging symbol remains.
The phone stays hot like it is charging, but it still says '46% 1 hour remaining to fully charge etc'. If you leave it for an hour, it stays at 46%. If you unplug and restart the phone, it will be at 100%.
I hope this is a software bug? It seems others are impacted too. google support link below.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/77815758?hl=en
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Surely that just sounds like a software issue or glitch. It's not stopped charging, it's just not updated correctly?
superleeds27 said:
Surely that just sounds like a software issue or glitch. It's not stopped charging, it's just not updated correctly?
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yes it appears that way. hopefully.
Hi ! Mine is stuck at 100% after charging at night. I use the google pixel stand. After rebooting battery falls down rapidly to the correct amount but it gets stuck everytime I charge it back fully with the stand. I'll need to try with wire charging though to see if the issue is the same.
No such issue with my Pixel 5 Sorta Sage here in Australia. Sounds like a software glitch though. Had mine for 3 days now and it's been going really well. I'm also not seeing this "gap" issue that others have mentioned either.
After my pixel shutted down at 1% battery (24 hours standby and 7.5 hours of screen)
I put it to charge and turned it on and left it charging.
I came back later. And the phone was at 1% level still charging. With battery saver enabled
I restarted and the phone was already at 100%
What the hell is going on.
I used my Pixel 4 charger instead of Pixel 5 but they look like the same charger with type C power delivery
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Mine has this issue too - same with different adapters, but doesn't happen every time with the same adapter. When plugging in it will go up a couple of % over a few minutes, then gets stuck - it might go up another percent randomly here and there, but not at the "actual" rate that it's charging.
Restarting seems to force it to update to the correct charge percentage, but not to carry on increasing at the correct rate. Tempted by a factory reset!
alastor2004 said:
Mine has this issue too - same with different adapters, but doesn't happen every time with the same adapter. When plugging in it will go up a couple of % over a few minutes, then gets stuck - it might go up another percent randomly here and there, but not at the "actual" rate that it's charging.
Restarting seems to force it to update to the correct charge percentage, but not to carry on increasing at the correct rate. Tempted by a factory reset!
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Mine got stuck at 69% for over 12 hours, i had to do a factory reset for sending the phone back anyway and it was still at 69% after the factory reset. So i don't think factory reset will do any good. Probably a software bug they need to fix.
I've also just seen this, the charge indicator got stuck at 47%, when reconnected the charging cable, the charge indicator quickly got up to around 80% and then carried on at a normal pace.
Same here. Stuck at 44%, then 88%, then 100%, then 96%. Some people were suggesting that it's a bug related to the far-right icons in the customization of the launcher. Don't know if that's true but defenitely will give it a try
There is some update in Pixel forums. According to it, will be fixed in a future software update.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/77815758?hl=en&msgid=78785427
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Question Battery Charging problem after recent update

I recently updated my phone to CPH2173_11_C.48 (April 2022 Security).
When the phone is on the fast charging shows but the battery % does not increase, in fact the battery drains when used.
The only way I can get it to charge is by first connecting the charger and then turning off the phone. After it starts charging (and the charging % increases), I can then turn the phone on and it charges properly even whilst using the phone to watch videos.
The only thing I have done recently is to update to the latest firmware.
Any ideas what the issue may be?
If you do the above process then unplug and plug straight back in, does the problem replicate?
Does it only happen below or above a certain battery%?
It happens on low and high battery %. If I unplug and then plug straight back the problem replicates
Noticed something a bit weird, I connected the phone to my PC and it is charging slowly (normal charge, not fast charge). When plugged into an outlet, it shows fast charging but the % does not go up (unless the phone is off).
Could this be a software issue with fast charging? Any way to fix other than to try factory reset?
Guest69 said:
If you do the above process then unplug and plug straight back in, does the problem replicate?
Does it only happen below or above a certain battery%?
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The culprit looks to be fast charge at lower battery %. I can slow charge at lower battery with the phone on and fast charge at higher % ( around70% +). Whilst off, fast charge works at any % battery.
Could this be software or hardware issue. Problem persists even after factory reset.

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