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Hi guys,
I have a debranded P10 c432 on emui 8. Firmware Finder report a VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1 Full OTA it's a strange name, very different from the one based on emui 8 that are somehting like "VTR-L09C432".
So:
Can I install that fw and go to emui 9?
Is it worth updating? the system is slow? battery life? how about the video stabilization?
Can I root?
Can I downgrade, eventually?
thank you in advance
This method work for my
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78850439&postcount=1334
1. The best you can do untill ota arrives is to try via hicare. That way i managed to install emui9 on my vtr-l29c432. The firmwares on ff might cause a brick if it's not the right one for your device so i don't think it's worth the risk.
2.In terms of performace i find the overall system a bit faster and smoother in transitions so for me it's a worth upgrade. No slowdowns or whatever, it's quick and stable with no issues so far (approx. 2weeks of use). Battery seems to be the same, depends on your usage, it may dry fast if you always on screen or it can last a full day if you don't stress it out. About the video i'm not so sure about it but on 1080p 60fps seems to be fine but again i'm not sure about it. I dont record that much on the phone, i ocasionally take some pictures and the camera seems to be fine. Maybe with future updates will be better. It's all about your preferences.
3. I don't use root but maybe it's possible with magisk.
4.Yes, with hisuite.
first thank you so much @Firicel69
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Necrodaemon said:
This method work for my
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78850439&postcount=1334
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mmmm why I need all these hisuite stuff for OVS if I have the unlocked bl and twrp installed? I don't understand this OVS thing...
RealPsygnosis said:
first thank you so much @Firicel69
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mmmm why I need all these hisuite stuff for OVS if I have the unlocked bl and twrp installed? I don't understand this OVS thing...
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When you have bootloader unlocked an TWRP installed make it easy
Look for upgrading to pie Tutorial at this Forum by @Jannomag!
Last Version to use on FF is 9.0.1.165...
I have a P10, rebranded from L09 to L29 with bootloader unlock...
@Jannomag s tutorial is working fine, no Problems with updating so far...
RealPsygnosis said:
Hi guys,
I have a debranded P10 c432 on emui 8. Firmware Finder report a VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1 Full OTA it's a strange name, very different from the one based on emui 8 that are somehting like "VTR-L09C432".
So:
Can I install that fw and go to emui 9?
Is it worth updating? the system is slow? battery life? how about the video stabilization?
Can I root?
Can I downgrade, eventually?
thank you in advance
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To upgrade to EMUI 9, you need a full firmware - those are listed as VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B165 (9.0.1.165), as an example. The LGRP2 firmwares, those are core system update images for non-Chinese devices (the Bnnn portion of the build number); they split the pieces apart into separately versioned bits with Pie.
I can't say anything for EMUI 9 features specifically, as I installed it for the updated vendor image, not EMUI.
You can root, with Magisk. They removed the ability to boot with a ramdisk in a normal boot, so Magisk takes over recovery instead; newer releases can boot both ways by button detection at boot time.
Downgrade - hisuite.
My battery life went down, but to early to say, because theese Huaweis is smart and needs time to learn habits and battery use... In two weeks I know more.
I don't think it's worth it. Smoother animations and better zoom photo quality are the only upsides. Other than that:
- camera app is much less intuitive, swiping between modes is slow and irritating, that's one of the things that should not be copied from iOS
- no video stabilization whatsoever
- image color processing is a hit and miss (it hates nature), when it gets slightly darker images are too dark
- I lost 1 hour of screen on time
- gallery app is stupid, it lost all the customization. You can't change folders to a list, you can't even rearrange the order!
- screenshot "mechanic" is stupid, it adds one unnecessary step to the process if you want to edit it or something
- themes app is unuseable, it got worse going from Nougat to Oreo, now it's just a messy store. Keep the theme you're on right now and forget about it.
- NFC issues (file transfer works, mobile payments don't).
In short - If your P10 works fine don't bother with the update.
majaczos said:
I don't think it's worth it. Smoother animations and better zoom photo quality are the only upsides. Other than that:
- camera app is much less intuitive, swiping between modes is slow and irritating, that's one of the things that should not be copied from iOS
- no video stabilization whatsoever
- image color processing is a hit and miss (it hates nature), when it gets slightly darker images are too dark
- I lost 1 hour of screen on time
- gallery app is stupid, it lost all the customization. You can't change folders to a list, you can't even rearrange the order!
- screenshot "mechanic" is stupid, it adds one unnecessary step to the process if you want to edit it or something
- themes app is unuseable, it got worse going from Nougat to Oreo, now it's just a messy store. Keep the theme you're on right now and forget about it.
- NFC issues (file transfer works, mobile payments don't).
In short - If your P10 works fine don't bother with the update.
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Can underline this.
Also the Memo-App is bad now, no more tick-boxes for quick notes (which is really annoying) and other small issues.
On of the most annyoing is the changing of notification colors on the lockscreen. This is so infuriating for me.....
I dig the Pie, better blutooth, and cams and gallery is nice here, also like the look on swipe menu, and maneuver...
The battery is better today.. I've blockcharged while I was in the shower and 50% now...
It's an old phone.. so I usually block charge abit on the night, in weekend I tend to stay up abit later also...
The phone is faster loading and multitasking.
Gallery is nice? What's nice about it? Blinding white background while viewing your pictures? Or the fact that you cannot do such basic thing as rearranging the order of your folders?
Pie on p10 is very battery efficient. It's so efficient at killing background processes that even calendar notifications won't work properly anymore. Last time I had alarm 22 hours and some minutes late. All other notifications appear at very random times, but always very late. Notifications work fine only for a few days until the app probably gets kicked out of ram. Completeley useless.
And then there is camera with much worse low light quality, bluetooth problems, useless themes app and bunch of other completely useless features and I'm slowly having enough of huawei and their updates. I've had my p10 since march 2017 and I don't think it ever worked without at least one major bug.
Ok I get the point, pie is for someone good and for - too many - a mess. But, maybe because it's a beta? On FF I cannot understand if it9s a beta release or not. Because some other versions of oreo are been released on April with Pie.
And BTW I have spend some time to read some threads here (dated March) and the @Jannomag scripts and it's obvious that it's too early to install it. There is no TWRP, and install magisk is completed and unreliable.
So maybe I will update oreo and wait that pie is mature enough at least that I could install twrp and magisk. Because, honestly, I don't care that gallery app or themes are worst, I could always replace them,the importance is that the system is usable.
It's not a beta. I got it through HiCare app, it's an official OTA update. Besides - most of the things I'm complaining about are present in P30 as well. That's how EMUI 9 is supposed to work.
@Imnotdriving, how is Bluetooth better? Asking because it might be a factor in my decision to upgrade ?
As it turns out, my phone got the pie update last night so I got my own answer. One previously stubborn to connect speaker now connects quickly with aptx Bluetooth hence confirming that Bluetooth is improved.
Otherwise I like the new gesture navigation option in this update. Beyond that, not much is different for the way I use the phone.
There are a lot of new services running and I disabled about a dozen of the low hanging fruit. There's more that I'm sure I'll disable over time once I find out what they do.
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@Imnotdriving, how is Bluetooth better? Asking because it might be a factor in my decision to upgrade [emoji6]
As it turns out, my phone got the pie update last night so I got my own answer. One previously stubborn to connect speaker now connects quickly with aptx Bluetooth hence confirming that Bluetooth is improved.
Otherwise I like the new gesture navigation option in this update. Beyond that, not much is different for the way I use the phone.
There are a lot of new services running and I disabled about a dozen of the low hanging fruit. There's more that I'm sure I'll disable over time once I find out what they do.
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The information in the update link spesofic stated that blutooth functions would be better, I don't remember exactly what it said.
Guys what package should I use for upgrade?
VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1.203
Or
VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185
Both full ota
The OVS one is just one package update_full_base. Zip but it seems newer then the b185
RealPsygnosis said:
Guys what package should I use for upgrade?
VTR-LGRP2-OVS 9.0.1.203
Or
VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185
Both full ota
The OVS one is just one package update_full_base. Zip but it seems newer then the b185
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For the initial update, the LGRP1/LGRP2 packages shouldn't be used - while it's marked FullOTA, it's not a complete build, as it's missing various partitions that need to be flashed in an upgrade from Oreo. (Basically, you'll brick if you flash one of those.)
If you're already on Pie, either works equally well.
irony_delerium said:
For the initial update, the LGRP1/LGRP2 packages shouldn't be used - while it's marked FullOTA, it's not a complete build, as it's missing various partitions that need to be flashed in an upgrade from Oreo. (Basically, you'll brick if you flash one of those.)
If you're already on Pie, either works equally well.
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So I should use the VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185 package with the script here? After that I can update pie with LGRP2? But is LGRP2-OVS a sort of beta?
Do you advise me to use the jannomag script or the hi suite trick with dns?
I hope everything goes fine, I want to do a full wipe and install magisk
RealPsygnosis said:
So I should use the VTR-L29C432E1R1P9B185 package with the script here? After that I can update pie with LGRP2? But is LGRP2-OVS a sort of beta?
Do you advise me to use the jannomag script or the hi suite trick with dns?
I hope everything goes fine, I want to do a full wipe and install magisk
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I've done all of my updates to P using a nocheck recovery. I can't say anything about the tricks with HiSuite or the script you've mentioned, though they should work just fine.
As far as the build numbers go: LGRP1-CHN and LGRP2-OVS are the China and everywhere else builds, respectively. It's possible that some of them might be beta, though I suspect the release notes would give up some indication of that.
Hello there,
Since Android 10 is finally out in final version for our beloved Note 9 Exynos, how many of you are upgrading, and why? Also, for whom will choose to stick with Pie, again, why? And last, for those who are still on Oreo, what are you waiting for?
Personally, I didn't see that much new features that I really want to use right now. Mostly some tweakings here and there in some interfaces, but nothing really new, looks more like a modded version of Pie . I'm not a fan of the new gestures either, I think I'd keep the navbar anyway so... I'm gonna wait a moment before upgrading. And I'm mostly waiting for Swift Installer/substratum/Goodlock compatibility too, can't live without those
The thing I'd like to try out is DeX on PC, but again I don't really have a need for it. I'm more sad to lose Linux On Dex when I'll upgrade.
What are your opinions?
Mwyann said:
Hello there,
Since Android 10 is finally out in final version for our beloved Note 9 Exynos, how many of you are upgrading, and why? Also, for whom will choose to stick with Pie, again, why? And last, for those who are still on Oreo, what are you waiting for?
Personally, I didn't see that much new features that I really want to use right now. Mostly some tweakings here and there in some interfaces, but nothing really new, looks more like a modded version of Pie . I'm not a fan of the new gestures either, I think I'd keep the navbar anyway so... I'm gonna wait a moment before upgrading. And I'm mostly waiting for Swift Installer/substratum/Goodlock compatibility too, can't live without those
The thing I'd like to try out is DeX on PC, but again I don't really have a need for it. I'm more sad to lose Linux On Dex when I'll upgrade.
What are your opinions?
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Still no upgrade here ? middle east user N960F/DS
There is no question about should you upgrade or not. Unless you want to keep vulnerabilities, you have to update to the newer OS (if any) to get the latest security fixes.
fabienpascal said:
There is no question about should you upgrade or not. Unless you want to keep vulnerabilities, you have to update to the newer OS (if any) to get the latest security fixes.
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True. Or to get newer vulnerabilities ?
Will upgrade the second the official OTA drops. I'm a non-root user and have been waiting for the battery limiter feature that's finally present in One UI 2.0.
Edit: No toggleable charging cap in One UI 2.0. It seems the battery limiter means preventing draining your battery too low when using wireless power sharing in the S10 and up.
Waiting for a decent rom like The Galaxy Project to offer it. Only one so far is Dr Ketan's which won't even boot for me despite 3 clean download and install attempts.
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Waiting for a decent rom like The Galaxy Project to offer it. Only one so far is Dr Ketan's which won't even boot for me despite 3 clean download and install attempts.
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Have you updated your bootloaders and modem files to the latest version?
It usually works with the bootloops.
all the best
Except dex on windows and say good bye to linux on dex, nothing really new.
Only one big problem, as samsung block you to revert back to a stable pie os version. Latest pie is a no with bootloader 4.
Its all marketing I see
I received it yesterday in Morocco, I was using VPN (Germany) but I can't confirm, it is a bless, smooth and new features, I tried dex on pc : amazing, I still need to Check the battery
Just a quick update, to tell that I've finally upgraded because the "new update" notification kept showing up and I got bored of it. It went pretty well, and I'm trying to get used to the new gestures after all, I'll see if I can use them nicely. I'm only afraid to be confused when using my older S7E which doesn't have those. I'm using Hexed+ as a replacement for Swift Installer, waiting for the latter to be updated. Also waiting for Goodlock apps to be updated (for example, to put the clock on the right side again).
No upgrade yet i m from The Balkans. Still waiting for the update OneUI 2
No upgrade. i am afraid of battery life. On pie april patch, my phone battery last longer than pie july patch. I am living with it. but i do not want to lose more juice of battery. will upgrade if battery life improves.
Mwyann said:
Just a quick update, to tell that I've finally upgraded because the "new update" notification kept showing up and I got bored of it. It went pretty well, and I'm trying to get used to the new gestures after all, I'll see if I can use them nicely. I'm only afraid to be confused when using my older S7E which doesn't have those. I'm using Hexed+ as a replacement for Swift Installer, waiting for the latter to be updated. Also waiting for Goodlock apps to be updated (for example, to put the clock on the right side again).
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Can you confirm what else was working in pie and not working in Q ?
Also give a try with linux on dex.
For clock on right you can use systemui tuner.
Software update notification can be disabled too.
LucianGL30 said:
Can you confirm what else was working in pie and not working in Q ?
Also give a try with linux on dex.
For clock on right you can use systemui tuner.
Software update notification can be disabled too.
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What's not working:
- Linux On Dex (displays an error like "you must be on latest firmware", so I guess it doesn't recognize the phone as compatible anymore, which is the case as I've read - it's a kernel issue)
- Substratum and other overlay systems like Swift Installer (you could still install unsigned overlays on Pie on the Note9 but that's a thing of the past now. Hopefully there's Synergy (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=projekt.samsung.theme.compiler) which allows using some overlays by using themes - the Android 10/OneUI 2.0 compatibility is in progress).
- Some SystemUI controls, like the clock position (I've tested it all, even the tips involving right_clock_position)
- Good Lock, which isn't updated yet (and it should solve the clock position problem)
So fat that's the only things I miss on my Pie install. Most of them will simply become available again soon, or can be replaced by other means, so that's not so bad. About the new gestures though, I miss my browser shortcut I had setup with NavStar, and also I kinda don't like the wasted space it introduces to allow for gestures. Well, I'll see when NavStar is updated it I simply go back to the navigation bar (I'll be able to use some gestures with OneHand Operation +).
About Linux On Dex problem, on my rooted S7E I'm using Linux Deploy (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy) but on my unrooted Note9 I'm currently trying a combo of Termux (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux) and AnLinux (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=exa.lnx.a).
And I couldn't disable the notification, didn't find a way to do it at the time. I guess now it's too late
Mwyann said:
What's not working:
- Linux On Dex (displays an error like "you must be on latest firmware", so I guess it doesn't recognize the phone as compatible anymore, which is the case as I've read - it's a kernel issue)
- Substratum and other overlay systems like Swift Installer (you could still install unsigned overlays on Pie on the Note9 but that's a thing of the past now. Hopefully there's Synergy (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=projekt.samsung.theme.compiler) which allows using some overlays by using themes - the Android 10/OneUI 2.0 compatibility is in progress).
- Some SystemUI controls, like the clock position (I've tested it all, even the tips involving right_clock_position)
- Good Lock, which isn't updated yet (and it should solve the clock position problem)
So fat that's the only things I miss on my Pie install. Most of them will simply become available again soon, or can be replaced by other means, so that's not so bad. About the new gestures though, I miss my browser shortcut I had setup with NavStar, and also I kinda don't like the wasted space it introduces to allow for gestures. Well, I'll see when NavStar is updated it I simply go back to the navigation bar (I'll be able to use some gestures with OneHand Operation +).
About Linux On Dex problem, on my rooted S7E I'm using Linux Deploy (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy) but on my unrooted Note9 I'm currently trying a combo of Termux (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux) and AnLinux (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=exa.lnx.a).
And I couldn't disable the notification, didn't find a way to do it at the time. I guess now it's too late
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What about SystemUI Tuner , doesn't let you to move the clock? It's on play store.
For linux like ubuntu kali debian arch parrot fedora manjaro give a try with AndroNix ,same is on playstore.
For navbar, you can get back as in pie from settings.
LucianGL30 said:
What about SystemUI Tuner , doesn't let you to move the clock? It's on play store.
For linux like ubuntu kali debian arch parrot fedora manjaro give a try with AndroNix ,same is on playstore.
For navbar, you can get back as in pie from settings.
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As I said in my reply, I did try SystemUI Tuner (I used it on Pie too), and it just doesn't work, the clock doesn't move anymore.
I indeed tried AndroNix and one of their optimized OS, it's good stuff
There was a adb command to move clock too
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There was a adb command to move clock too
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Looked for this too, but I always find commands that gives permissions to SystemUI, which doesn't really help If you have something to try out, I'd be happy (but if it involves the keyword right_clock_position I can already tell that it doesn't work)
Do not like an iOS like software experience thanks to Google wanting to copy Apple.
Mwyann said:
Just a quick update, to tell that I've finally upgraded because the "new update" notification kept showing up and I got bored of it. It went pretty well, and I'm trying to get used to the new gestures after all, I'll see if I can use them nicely. I'm only afraid to be confused when using my older S7E which doesn't have those. I'm using Hexed+ as a replacement for Swift Installer, waiting for the latter to be updated. Also waiting for Goodlock apps to be updated (for example, to put the clock on the right side again).
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Updated and so far so good except that annoying white/ black bar at the bottom of Gboard . Any ideas on how to get rid of it ?
Hi everyone.
I just got my Note 8 and it is a beast!
my phone prior to this was actually an Xperia Z1 (yep, the one from 2013), which has LineageOS 7.1 (Nougat) loaded onto it. I loved that rom, so much I actually put the same LineageOS version on my ASUS tablet too. So I'm pretty used to the trebuchet launcher and Nougat system in general.
the previous owner of my Note8 had pretty much installed all the updates up till late last year, so It's got the 9 Pie update installed. Android 9, combined with the One UI launcher, and topped with annoying "Bixby???" button I keep accidentally pressing, is all a little too crazy for me, coming from LOs Nougat.
with my scouring of forums, I've seen a few people suggest that staying on Oreo is better for battery life / performance / usability compared to the Pie update.
Compared to my Z1, this thing is a speed demon, it certainly isn't slow... but I do notice that the battery seems to drain a bit even when the phone is left in standby, and considering it's a fresh factory reset OS with almost no user apps installed, I'm a little concerned to see it's using 3gb of memory on just bloat and background services.
So pretty much I've been looking into the custom rom situation for the Note8.
My main priority is debloating and stability. I've seen the popular Hades and Deluxe roms, but they look almost more like they are adding features and customization, rather than stripping the useless bloat. Also they seem to be pushing even newer android versions now.
I've seen that TeamEXYKings put out a few light roms, even ones supporting nougat. which I'm interested in trying, anyone have any thoughts on these? It looks like support has dropped for them.
Points I understand so far.... (correct me if I'm wrong)
*Currently, I can't flash because my KG state is in Prenormal, still waiting the 7 days with simcard and phone staying on.
*Exynos has an unlocked bootloader, snapdragon doesn't. It seems to be a common opinion that Booatloader can't be downgraded, so therefore I won't be able to roll back an oreo or nougat rom? yet I've seen some people claim they were able to after they unlocked the bootloader (very confused)?
*Most Roms take away Spen functionality? I do need this, but only for the pressure sensetivity in my art apps, I don't care too much about the drawing on notes/screenshots/off screen/ring shortcut. Will I still get the basic funcationality of my Spen on a custom rom?
*Seems there are some Galaxy S8 roms that have Note 8 functionality and vice-versa.. should I consider these? are there any drawbacks/bugs to consider?
sorry for the long post I'm open to anyone's thoughts and suggestion, cheers!
TLDR: new phone, not too keen on Android Pie and excessive Samsung bloat. please suggest light and stable rom for note 8.
dc_all said:
Hi everyone.
I just got my Note 8 and it is a beast!
my phone prior to this was actually an Xperia Z1 (yep, the one from 2013), which has LineageOS 7.1 (Nougat) loaded onto it. I loved that rom, so much I actually put the same LineageOS version on my ASUS tablet too. So I'm pretty used to the trebuchet launcher and Nougat system in general.
the previous owner of my Note8 had pretty much installed all the updates up till late last year, so It's got the 9 Pie update installed. Android 9, combined with the One UI launcher, and topped with annoying "Bixby???" button I keep accidentally pressing, is all a little too crazy for me, coming from LOs Nougat.
with my scouring of forums, I've seen a few people suggest that staying on Oreo is better for battery life / performance / usability compared to the Pie update.
Compared to my Z1, this thing is a speed demon, it certainly isn't slow... but I do notice that the battery seems to drain a bit even when the phone is left in standby, and considering it's a fresh factory reset OS with almost no user apps installed, I'm a little concerned to see it's using 3gb of memory on just bloat and background services.
So pretty much I've been looking into the custom rom situation for the Note8.
My main priority is debloating and stability. I've seen the popular Hades and Deluxe roms, but they look almost more like they are adding features and customization, rather than stripping the useless bloat. Also they seem to be pushing even newer android versions now.
I've seen that TeamEXYKings put out a few light roms, even ones supporting nougat. which I'm interested in trying, anyone have any thoughts on these? It looks like support has dropped for them.
Points I understand so far.... (correct me if I'm wrong)
*Currently, I can't flash because my KG state is in Prenormal, still waiting the 7 days with simcard and phone staying on.
*Exynos has an unlocked bootloader, snapdragon doesn't. It seems to be a common opinion that Booatloader can't be downgraded, so therefore I won't be able to roll back an oreo or nougat rom? yet I've seen some people claim they were able to after they unlocked the bootloader (very confused)?
*Most Roms take away Spen functionality? I do need this, but only for the pressure sensetivity in my art apps, I don't care too much about the drawing on notes/screenshots/off screen/ring shortcut. Will I still get the basic funcationality of my Spen on a custom rom?
*Seems there are some Galaxy S8 roms that have Note 8 functionality and vice-versa.. should I consider these? are there any drawbacks/bugs to consider?
sorry for the long post I'm open to anyone's thoughts and suggestion, cheers!
TLDR: new phone, not too keen on Android Pie and excessive Samsung bloat. please suggest light and stable rom for note 8.
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Rather than trying to address everything I will stick to what is most important for you, debloating and stability. Both Deluxe and Hades rom let you choose most of what bloatware you want during the Aroma installation, although they vary slightly in what is selectable but if you don't want Bixby for example just don't select it in Aroma. For stability you won't go wrong with a stock based rom.
If you love Lineaage OS you can flash Lineage 17 which is stable, you can find the latest build in the link I will post below, however this will remove the Spen functionality so it is literally just a touch pen and I don't know if the pressure censor works for drawing. You will need to flash Gapps with this to get the Google play store.
https://images.stricted.net/lineageos/greatlte/
I want to make you aware, just in case you don't know, that as soon as you flash TWRP this trips Knox so Samsung Pay will never work again, it breaks other things too like Shealth and Secure Folder but most stock based roms have this patched so they work, just not Samsung Pay.
Another option is to buy a package disabler, which is what I use, so I can disable or enable any app with just a click so then you can stay fully stock.
stonedpsycho said:
Rather than trying to address everything I will stick to what is most important for you, debloating and stability. Both Deluxe and Hades rom let you choose most of what bloatware you want during the Aroma installation, although they vary slightly in what is selectable but if you don't want Bixby for example just don't select it in Aroma. For stability you won't go wrong with a stock based rom.
If you love Lineaage OS you can flash Lineage 17 which is stable, you can find the latest build in the link I will post below, however this will remove the Spen functionality so it is literally just a touch pen and I don't know if the pressure censor works for drawing. You will need to flash Gapps with this to get the Google play store.
https://images.stricted.net/lineageos/greatlte/
I want to make you aware, just in case you don't know, that as soon as you flash TWRP this trips Knox so Samsung Pay will never work again, it breaks other things too like Shealth and Secure Folder but most stock based roms have this patched so they work, just not Samsung Pay.
Another option is to buy a package disabler, which is what I use, so I can disable or enable any app with just a click so then you can stay fully stock.
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Thanks a bunch for your advice, very helpful.
and thanks for bringing up the knox thing. I have heard that, though I forgot to mention it in my post. I think I'll be fine without those samsung features.
I'll keep a close eye on Hades and Deluxe then. There seems to be the most information about them online and even some video reviews.
I'll look into the newer lineageOS too, it sounds like it will meet my needs, but I would hate to lose some functionality on Spen or camera, so Stock based may be the way to go..
Also I hadn't ever heard of a Package disabler.. definitely going to look into that too.
Another great perk for LOS was the privacy guard, being able to disable apps loading at startup or not allowing them to run in background really extended my battery life. I'll have to look into similar options from 3rd party apps.
thanks again for your help.
Hi,
on S10 phone (which I bought mostly because of the GearVR function) after updating the software to OneUI 4.0, the entire Oculus subsystem and everything related to GearVR stopped working. The fact that it wasn't written in capital letters before the update name is rude, but to the point:
Is there some solution to run GearVR subsystem on Android 12 and OneUI newer than 4.0? Can it be installed as normal app, and if so, how is possible to get it? Maybe it is possible to downgrade GearVR service app? Ora ny other option?
Many thanks for your help!
Just wondering but any luck with finding a solution to this? I have a snapdragon S10+ and I am very much missing my vr capabilities on this BS upgrade that killed it.
I was wondering myself. since I wanted to get back into VR and get myself a Gear VR headset, but my S10+ has been updated to android 12. I tried replacing/downgrading the built in GearVR service app with com.samsung.android.hmt.vrsvc_3.2.06.18-320618000 (extracted from G975FXXSEFUL1) through magisk replace function in priv-app, but that just force-closes (tried opening in developer mode).
I went ahead and unpacked/dex2jar the \system\framework\framework.jar and \system\framework\services.jar and compared them through jd-gui and a lot of the core GearVR code has been removed/modified, so I don't believe there is any way to get core framework functionality back. only way I see is a downgrade to android 11, unfortunately.
I was hoping on an easy fix/some simple patching, as this S10+ is still my daily driver, but alas....
Running the downgraded VR service, it reports VR framework version as -1 in app/settings.
New (G975FXXUGHVJ5) ROM is also missing \system\etc\security\oculus.crt
I am in no way a developer, coder or hacker, so I did my research with limited knowledge. maybe someone with more knowledge and interest will step up eventually... but I guess if it was that easy, it would have been cracked already.
Does it work if you use Odin to downgrade to Android 11?
Howdy. I just got a new Pixel 5 and would appreciate some feedback please.
My goals are:
- A phone that's rock stable, speedy and not bloated with unnecessary apps/features that reduce battery life.
- use mainly for productivity apps. Will have between 70-100 apps to use througout the day.
- not interested in visual features, extra securities, gaming etc
- will install Nova Prime and Tasker/Macdroid to further customize phone.
- yes. I have some experience with installing custom roms in the past... 3-4 years ago.
My questions:
1. will updating to Android 13 a good idea with my requirements ? I've look at A13 and don't really need most of the new features. However one option I'm thinking of is to update to A13 then root the phone and use a bloatware removal to remove/disable unnecessary features. Is this a good option?
2. Is there another stable/fast rom that is considerably better than A13 given my priorities above? Stability with features like Gps, wifi, bluetooth, camera, use of gestures and voice controls is important to me.
3. There's a new QR scanner feature in A13 that I may be using in the near future. If I don't upgrade to A13 is there an app for this?
Thanks for any feedback.
It's too early to tell if Android 13 will be faster or slower. As with any new major update, it will be buggy for the first few months while they iron out the issues with monthly updates. You'll just have to try it out and see.
Stock roms are pretty debloated already so you probably don't need to worry about that too much. But if you wanted, yes you could use a bloatware removal tool to remove more stuff.
Personally, I'm still on Android 11 November patch. I just procrastinated updating because rooting Android 12 required a factory reset and I was waiting for all the major issues to be patched before updating. And then Android 13 just got released lol. For me, Android 11 still runs smoothly and have no issues so I might stay on it for a while longer until I decide to update.
I can't say much on custom roms because I haven't used them but they are still mostly Android 11 and 12 because 13 was only just released.
As for QR scanner, there are plenty of free ones to choose from in the PlayStore so there's no need to worry if you decide not to update to Android 13.
Thanks swangjang.
I think i'll update to A13. Many people seem happy with the update.