Should i update to Android 13 with my situation? - Google Pixel 5 Questions & Answers

Howdy. I just got a new Pixel 5 and would appreciate some feedback please.
My goals are:
- A phone that's rock stable, speedy and not bloated with unnecessary apps/features that reduce battery life.
- use mainly for productivity apps. Will have between 70-100 apps to use througout the day.
- not interested in visual features, extra securities, gaming etc
- will install Nova Prime and Tasker/Macdroid to further customize phone.
- yes. I have some experience with installing custom roms in the past... 3-4 years ago.
My questions:
1. will updating to Android 13 a good idea with my requirements ? I've look at A13 and don't really need most of the new features. However one option I'm thinking of is to update to A13 then root the phone and use a bloatware removal to remove/disable unnecessary features. Is this a good option?
2. Is there another stable/fast rom that is considerably better than A13 given my priorities above? Stability with features like Gps, wifi, bluetooth, camera, use of gestures and voice controls is important to me.
3. There's a new QR scanner feature in A13 that I may be using in the near future. If I don't upgrade to A13 is there an app for this?
Thanks for any feedback.

It's too early to tell if Android 13 will be faster or slower. As with any new major update, it will be buggy for the first few months while they iron out the issues with monthly updates. You'll just have to try it out and see.
Stock roms are pretty debloated already so you probably don't need to worry about that too much. But if you wanted, yes you could use a bloatware removal tool to remove more stuff.
Personally, I'm still on Android 11 November patch. I just procrastinated updating because rooting Android 12 required a factory reset and I was waiting for all the major issues to be patched before updating. And then Android 13 just got released lol. For me, Android 11 still runs smoothly and have no issues so I might stay on it for a while longer until I decide to update.
I can't say much on custom roms because I haven't used them but they are still mostly Android 11 and 12 because 13 was only just released.
As for QR scanner, there are plenty of free ones to choose from in the PlayStore so there's no need to worry if you decide not to update to Android 13.

Thanks swangjang.
I think i'll update to A13. Many people seem happy with the update.

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Is it a foolish decision to not update the OS?

Since the OTA for android 10 became available, I have disabled system updates. This is because a number of apps I use are incompatible with android 10, or require root on android 10; these issues do not exist on android Pie. Are these bad reasons to not update the OS? The most important reason to keep the software updated is for the security patches, so would it be smarter for me to allow and install the updates again, or is it a non-issue?
Snowby123 said:
Since the OTA for android 10 became available, I have disabled system updates. This is because a number of apps I use are incompatible with android 10, or require root on android 10; these issues do not exist on android Pie. Are these bad reasons to not update the OS? The most important reason to keep the software updated is for the security patches, so would it be smarter for me to allow and install the updates again, or is it a non-issue?
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Its personal prefference. Your phone will not lostnits value or any functions....some people like to stick to old guns....
Remember once you go to android 10...there is no way back..... its your call.
You will also not get any security updates as these are generally tied into the firmware updates... If there is a nasty exploit found you may be vulnerable...
If you really need those apps then don't update. If they get support for android 10 or you find alternatives to them which work on android 10 then you'll only gain features with android 10. It's the same firmware as the S20 has - OneUI 2.1 with pretty much all features from it which are not hardware dependent, minus bixby routines (but there is goodlock routines instead which is the same for basic functionality).
As a side note I'd advise against rooting android 10, no point. Just get goodlock modules from apkmirror and use nicelock or finelock to launch them and you're good to go.
One of the reasons some people (including myself) prefer to not update their OS is battery life. I personally experienced a degradation in battery life since updating from KitKat when i had the note 4, and i had the same experience with the s7 when updating from Marshmallow to Nougat (i always do fresh OS installs through Odin). The gain in terms of usability was really minor as well.
Right now i am using note 9 and keeping it on the latest Oreo, no complaints.
For security updates as long as you know what to install you should be good.
Just adding my 2cents.
Depends... if you using any mobile financial apps or hold any confidential data on your device then yes. It is foolish to not update the OS on your device. But if you don't, then it would be ok, I suppose

Recommendations for custom rom? SM-N950F/DS

Hi everyone.
I just got my Note 8 and it is a beast!
my phone prior to this was actually an Xperia Z1 (yep, the one from 2013), which has LineageOS 7.1 (Nougat) loaded onto it. I loved that rom, so much I actually put the same LineageOS version on my ASUS tablet too. So I'm pretty used to the trebuchet launcher and Nougat system in general.
the previous owner of my Note8 had pretty much installed all the updates up till late last year, so It's got the 9 Pie update installed. Android 9, combined with the One UI launcher, and topped with annoying "Bixby???" button I keep accidentally pressing, is all a little too crazy for me, coming from LOs Nougat.
with my scouring of forums, I've seen a few people suggest that staying on Oreo is better for battery life / performance / usability compared to the Pie update.
Compared to my Z1, this thing is a speed demon, it certainly isn't slow... but I do notice that the battery seems to drain a bit even when the phone is left in standby, and considering it's a fresh factory reset OS with almost no user apps installed, I'm a little concerned to see it's using 3gb of memory on just bloat and background services.
So pretty much I've been looking into the custom rom situation for the Note8.
My main priority is debloating and stability. I've seen the popular Hades and Deluxe roms, but they look almost more like they are adding features and customization, rather than stripping the useless bloat. Also they seem to be pushing even newer android versions now.
I've seen that TeamEXYKings put out a few light roms, even ones supporting nougat. which I'm interested in trying, anyone have any thoughts on these? It looks like support has dropped for them.
Points I understand so far.... (correct me if I'm wrong)
*Currently, I can't flash because my KG state is in Prenormal, still waiting the 7 days with simcard and phone staying on.
*Exynos has an unlocked bootloader, snapdragon doesn't. It seems to be a common opinion that Booatloader can't be downgraded, so therefore I won't be able to roll back an oreo or nougat rom? yet I've seen some people claim they were able to after they unlocked the bootloader (very confused)?
*Most Roms take away Spen functionality? I do need this, but only for the pressure sensetivity in my art apps, I don't care too much about the drawing on notes/screenshots/off screen/ring shortcut. Will I still get the basic funcationality of my Spen on a custom rom?
*Seems there are some Galaxy S8 roms that have Note 8 functionality and vice-versa.. should I consider these? are there any drawbacks/bugs to consider?
sorry for the long post I'm open to anyone's thoughts and suggestion, cheers!
TLDR: new phone, not too keen on Android Pie and excessive Samsung bloat. please suggest light and stable rom for note 8.
dc_all said:
Hi everyone.
I just got my Note 8 and it is a beast!
my phone prior to this was actually an Xperia Z1 (yep, the one from 2013), which has LineageOS 7.1 (Nougat) loaded onto it. I loved that rom, so much I actually put the same LineageOS version on my ASUS tablet too. So I'm pretty used to the trebuchet launcher and Nougat system in general.
the previous owner of my Note8 had pretty much installed all the updates up till late last year, so It's got the 9 Pie update installed. Android 9, combined with the One UI launcher, and topped with annoying "Bixby???" button I keep accidentally pressing, is all a little too crazy for me, coming from LOs Nougat.
with my scouring of forums, I've seen a few people suggest that staying on Oreo is better for battery life / performance / usability compared to the Pie update.
Compared to my Z1, this thing is a speed demon, it certainly isn't slow... but I do notice that the battery seems to drain a bit even when the phone is left in standby, and considering it's a fresh factory reset OS with almost no user apps installed, I'm a little concerned to see it's using 3gb of memory on just bloat and background services.
So pretty much I've been looking into the custom rom situation for the Note8.
My main priority is debloating and stability. I've seen the popular Hades and Deluxe roms, but they look almost more like they are adding features and customization, rather than stripping the useless bloat. Also they seem to be pushing even newer android versions now.
I've seen that TeamEXYKings put out a few light roms, even ones supporting nougat. which I'm interested in trying, anyone have any thoughts on these? It looks like support has dropped for them.
Points I understand so far.... (correct me if I'm wrong)
*Currently, I can't flash because my KG state is in Prenormal, still waiting the 7 days with simcard and phone staying on.
*Exynos has an unlocked bootloader, snapdragon doesn't. It seems to be a common opinion that Booatloader can't be downgraded, so therefore I won't be able to roll back an oreo or nougat rom? yet I've seen some people claim they were able to after they unlocked the bootloader (very confused)?
*Most Roms take away Spen functionality? I do need this, but only for the pressure sensetivity in my art apps, I don't care too much about the drawing on notes/screenshots/off screen/ring shortcut. Will I still get the basic funcationality of my Spen on a custom rom?
*Seems there are some Galaxy S8 roms that have Note 8 functionality and vice-versa.. should I consider these? are there any drawbacks/bugs to consider?
sorry for the long post I'm open to anyone's thoughts and suggestion, cheers!
TLDR: new phone, not too keen on Android Pie and excessive Samsung bloat. please suggest light and stable rom for note 8.
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Rather than trying to address everything I will stick to what is most important for you, debloating and stability. Both Deluxe and Hades rom let you choose most of what bloatware you want during the Aroma installation, although they vary slightly in what is selectable but if you don't want Bixby for example just don't select it in Aroma. For stability you won't go wrong with a stock based rom.
If you love Lineaage OS you can flash Lineage 17 which is stable, you can find the latest build in the link I will post below, however this will remove the Spen functionality so it is literally just a touch pen and I don't know if the pressure censor works for drawing. You will need to flash Gapps with this to get the Google play store.
https://images.stricted.net/lineageos/greatlte/
I want to make you aware, just in case you don't know, that as soon as you flash TWRP this trips Knox so Samsung Pay will never work again, it breaks other things too like Shealth and Secure Folder but most stock based roms have this patched so they work, just not Samsung Pay.
Another option is to buy a package disabler, which is what I use, so I can disable or enable any app with just a click so then you can stay fully stock.
stonedpsycho said:
Rather than trying to address everything I will stick to what is most important for you, debloating and stability. Both Deluxe and Hades rom let you choose most of what bloatware you want during the Aroma installation, although they vary slightly in what is selectable but if you don't want Bixby for example just don't select it in Aroma. For stability you won't go wrong with a stock based rom.
If you love Lineaage OS you can flash Lineage 17 which is stable, you can find the latest build in the link I will post below, however this will remove the Spen functionality so it is literally just a touch pen and I don't know if the pressure censor works for drawing. You will need to flash Gapps with this to get the Google play store.
https://images.stricted.net/lineageos/greatlte/
I want to make you aware, just in case you don't know, that as soon as you flash TWRP this trips Knox so Samsung Pay will never work again, it breaks other things too like Shealth and Secure Folder but most stock based roms have this patched so they work, just not Samsung Pay.
Another option is to buy a package disabler, which is what I use, so I can disable or enable any app with just a click so then you can stay fully stock.
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Thanks a bunch for your advice, very helpful.
and thanks for bringing up the knox thing. I have heard that, though I forgot to mention it in my post. I think I'll be fine without those samsung features.
I'll keep a close eye on Hades and Deluxe then. There seems to be the most information about them online and even some video reviews.
I'll look into the newer lineageOS too, it sounds like it will meet my needs, but I would hate to lose some functionality on Spen or camera, so Stock based may be the way to go..
Also I hadn't ever heard of a Package disabler.. definitely going to look into that too.
Another great perk for LOS was the privacy guard, being able to disable apps loading at startup or not allowing them to run in background really extended my battery life. I'll have to look into similar options from 3rd party apps.
thanks again for your help.

General MIUImix custom Rom

Hello everyone, just to mention the custom ROM MIUImix is also available for our Mi 11 Ultra (and Pro). Unfortunately I haven't find any stable version,only weekly. For those who don't know what MIUImix is, from the developers website:
MIUI MIX
MIUI MIX by MMX Team is an Official MIUI Community from Italy.It has been developing since many years through different Android Versions. This Project basically gives users, A Visual Treat between Battery management as well as Performance on-the-go. Well featured and maintained with Xiaomi.EU MIUI Beta and Stable Builds, This ROM Surely gives an Immense Flavour of Smoothness binded with the newest features, with the most-demanded Security Surveliance throughout the ROM. This ROM has a perfect blend of all features most users can dream of.
Official Maintainer : Shubham
Extra Features For MIUI MIX by Team MMX
1. PUBG Smooth + 90fps Enabled:
A Small change can make a big difference. As PUBG and other high demanding games require more than normal (LOL), Graphics has been unlocked which makes the gameplay
Optimum with Zero Lags.
2. Passed Safetynet With / Without Root :
As the MIUI ports without root were making the devices go Uncertified, We have made a huge effort in passing the Safetynet which inturn made the device Certified to download and use almost all of the apps avaliable. Even you can root without breaking the Safetynet. Kudos,(All the banking apps and services works Flawlessly).
3. Animations Made Butter-Smooth :
With Newest Stable features provided by Xiaomi, Our ROM is also gaining speed in packing that features in which smoothness and stability are main aspects.
4. Battery Backup :
The ROM always focuses on making the phone spend the precious juice as less as possible in order to give a 1.5 to 2 day normal usage backup.
5. Performance :
Phone understands the demand and intelligently maintains the performance and battery levels for which the credit goes to the thermal configurations.
6. De-Bloated as Possible :
Removed numerous apps like Browser,Stock Updaters and other huge apps in order to reduce the overall Size and Space Occupation in the Phone.
7. Native Video Calls :
You can video-Chat/Call your family and friends with this Extra-Ordinary Inbuilt feature which supports almost all the operators avaliable in your location.
8. Youtube AdVanced on the Go :
No need to install MicroG and other stuffs in order Youtube app. Safe and sound as original.
9. Screen Casting made Easy:
Screen-Cast Feature allows to connect and display your Phone screen to almost all Supported Devices wireless-ly which is another best feature.
10. Charging Animation Design :
It has Three Animations which are official and you have the freedom to choose between them.
11. Display Colours Optimizations :
Optimized all Colour-Related problems which were raised and complained bysome users. Now no Decolourisation / Fading out of colours/ Lock-Unlock Colour Degradation will be arised in the newest updates.
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You can find the latest updates on here:
MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, please read the STICKY!
As I said I couldn't find the latest stable for Mi 11 Ultra but if you know where please feel free to post it for everyone.
Personally speaking I am really curious to try it out as it has Magisk and YouTube Vanced included, plus a lot of debloat, plus it seems quite optimised, all by keeping the latest China Rom features.
You can find the files on Sourceforge, indeed no stable for Mi11U for now.
MIUIMix is a ROM that is based on Xiaomi.Eu, indeed prerooted and with some further fine-tuning - very nice....
Did anyone had the chance to use and compare them both?
I have used both, honestly speaking they feel and look pretty much the same - most changes are rather "under the hood".
Miuimix is a bit more debloated and fine tuned, one list of changes can be found e.g
here - suits my need very nicely, but whether those changes including rooting are your cup of tea, well that's pretty individual in the end
How are apps start compared to stock experience? On Xiaomi EU is quite slow
Been running this for the last few days. Can't really notice a difference really. Seems a bit more debloated.
You can't Spot a difference between this and the stock or compared to Xiaomi EU?
May I please ask if you could run an adb command "pm list packages" to see what packages are installed on this MIUImix ROM?
xNAPx said:
Can I please ask if you could run an adb command "pm list packages" to see what packages are installed on this MIUImix ROM?
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Sure, I attached the package list plus my debloat list so you get the whole picture...

Question Mi 11 Ultra ROM Selection

Device: Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra
Carrier: T-Mobile
Rom: Xiaomi.eu (12.5.4 Stable version)
So last year when I was unable to purchase a Samsung 21 ultra I decided to look at other devices and purchased the Xiaomi with the understanding that it was a good device and the .eu version ROM is relatively good. After having the device with this ROM on it for several months I find it overall lacking and wanting to switch to something else or just load the default Xiaomi Global ROM on it.
I've heard of other ROMs like Pixel Experience and LineageOS but when I try to research it I'm finding unreliable resources. Due to this I figured I'd ask a few questions here. After the questions I'll leave a pro cons list of the device and the ROM Version I've been using.
- Does changing ROMs change the bands used from a reception standpoint?
- Does anyone else have my device and used another ROM? If so what do you like about it.
- Does anyone have experience or know reliable sources to research other ROMs for my specific device?
- has anyone that used the .eu ROM switched to back to the original global version and did it change anything regarding battery life or all functionality with recent updates?
Pros:
-fast charging is amazing fully charged from less than 10% in 20 min or less
-best camera I've found on the market with more features than I you'd even think of!
-smooth functionality for native applications
-abundance if settings for security that while can be cumbersome give you a lot of choices about app access and how they interact (with other apps, home automation, etc)
Cons:
-battery life doesn't last more than 4-6 hours with use of light gaming even with settings turned mostly to power save
- .eu Google integration is very clunky and seems to conflict with devices natural system which leads to missed/texts calls, reception issues, delayed or poor integration with other apps like Android auto
- odd bugs happen where mutli screen will randomly turn on or keyboard in text apps (all of them) will randomly disappear and you either need to restart device or go through multi-step process to bring back up
-Too many security settings. While it's nice having higher levels of control it would be ideal to have the ability to set a default security level when downloading applications vs having to do make changes when you download or after the fact
Elul said:
Device: Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra
Carrier: T-Mobile
Rom: Xiaomi.eu (12.5.4 Stable version)
So last year when I was unable to purchase a Samsung 21 ultra I decided to look at other devices and purchased the Xiaomi with the understanding that it was a good device and the .eu version ROM is relatively good. After having the device with this ROM on it for several months I find it overall lacking and wanting to switch to something else or just load the default Xiaomi Global ROM on it.
I've heard of other ROMs like Pixel Experience and LineageOS but when I try to research it I'm finding unreliable resources. Due to this I figured I'd ask a few questions here. After the questions I'll leave a pro cons list of the device and the ROM Version I've been using.
- Does changing ROMs change the bands used from a reception standpoint?
- Does anyone else have my device and used another ROM? If so what do you like about it.
- Does anyone have experience or know reliable sources to research other ROMs for my specific device?
- has anyone that used the .eu ROM switched to back to the original global version and did it change anything regarding battery life or all functionality with recent updates?
Pros:
-fast charging is amazing fully charged from less than 10% in 20 min or less
-best camera I've found on the market with more features than I you'd even think of!
-smooth functionality for native applications
-abundance if settings for security that while can be cumbersome give you a lot of choices about app access and how they interact (with other apps, home automation, etc)
Cons:
-battery life doesn't last more than 4-6 hours with use of light gaming even with settings turned mostly to power save
- .eu Google integration is very clunky and seems to conflict with devices natural system which leads to missed/texts calls, reception issues, delayed or poor integration with other apps like Android auto
- odd bugs happen where mutli screen will randomly turn on or keyboard in text apps (all of them) will randomly disappear and you either need to restart device or go through multi-step process to bring back up
-Too many security settings. While it's nice having higher levels of control it would be ideal to have the ability to set a default security level when downloading applications vs having to do make changes when you download or after the fact
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Hi Elul,
First of all, you are on Xiaomi.EU very old version, SEARIOUSLY OLD, right now it is 12.5.20, which results in a very old review of your device, many things has changed.
I use this device since May, I am using global device with global rom (international version). there are different roms for this device as follows:
-international version RKAMIXM
- INDIAN version RKAINXM
-Indonesian version RKAIDXM
-Europe official version RKAEUXM
-Chinese version RKACNXM
-Euro rom (not official) which is RKACNXM modified
I've done a research on this device bands and there are different outcomes, CN and global are all using same bands. or that international version got different band coverage than CN. you can search online and you'll find same result.
I've checked on T-Mobile coverage online and you are covered mainly on everything missing 2 bands on 5G: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-11
Check T-Mobile section.
As of my experience, my device is the international global version, I've switched to EU rom (not official) and tried it for about a month, and I regret it. switched back to the official global rom and since then device has improved by much. I found EU. rom is so buggy and battery drains really fast, even though i've removed bloatware which did not help. and memory management is pretty messed up. with global version i have late updates but very stable device, smooth, very good battery performance, camera is really nice (i know it is behind CN and Xiaomi.eu versions but still really good). so as of experience, i'd say official roms are best.
A bit of research in this forum and you'll find all possible roms you can install, and methods to install them, issues you might face and how to avoid, and it is really simple. spend a day of reading here and there in XDA and you'll be surprised of what information you can find.
Update your device to latest rom of EU version which you are on, and you'll eliminate a few Cons, and if you jump to global rom, you'll eliminate all of them except camera will fall a little behind (still not a Con, just falling a little behind CN version).
At least this is my experience (and a few others) with the device. other people might have different thoughts regarding how efficient is EU (unofficial rom).
hope this helps.
hassanaliyeh said:
Hi Elul,
First of all, you are on Xiaomi.EU very old version, SEARIOUSLY OLD, right now it is 12.5.20, which results in a very old review of your device, many things has changed.
I use this device since May, I am using global device with global rom (international version). there are different roms for this device as follows:
-international version RKAMIXM
- INDIAN version RKAINXM
-Indonesian version RKAIDXM
-Europe official version RKAEUXM
-Chinese version RKACNXM
-Euro rom (not official) which is RKACNXM modified
I've done a research on this device bands and there are different outcomes, CN and global are all using same bands. or that international version got different band coverage than CN. you can search online and you'll find same result.
I've checked on T-Mobile coverage online and you are covered mainly on everything missing 2 bands on 5G: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-11
Check T-Mobile section.
As of my experience, my device is the international global version, I've switched to EU rom (not official) and tried it for about a month, and I regret it. switched back to the official global rom and since then device has improved by much. I found EU. rom is so buggy and battery drains really fast, even though i've removed bloatware which did not help. and memory management is pretty messed up. with global version i have late updates but very stable device, smooth, very good battery performance, camera is really nice (i know it is behind CN and Xiaomi.eu versions but still really good). so as of experience, i'd say official roms are best.
A bit of research in this forum and you'll find all possible roms you can install, and methods to install them, issues you might face and how to avoid, and it is really simple. spend a day of reading here and there in XDA and you'll be surprised of what information you can find.
Update your device to latest rom of EU version which you are on, and you'll eliminate a few Cons, and if you jump to global rom, you'll eliminate all of them except camera will fall a little behind (still not a Con, just falling a little behind CN version).
At least this is my experience (and a few others) with the device. other people might have different thoughts regarding how efficient is EU (unofficial rom).
hope this helps.
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Thank you so much for the info. Can you tell me about the functionality difference between the .eu and current global version you've seen?
Specifically integration with Google apps (photos, auto, etc)
Elul said:
Thank you so much for the info. Can you tell me about the functionality difference between the .eu and current global version you've seen?
Specifically integration with Google apps (photos, auto, etc)
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With global version, they come preloaded with google services, and set as defaults, (except for gallery, music player, and video player), that can easily be changed through settings to whatever app you have. but for me I replaced only gallery, even though gallery has some really great features which I use sometimes, but because all my photos on the cloud I have to stick with google photos. Video player is really good, music player I don't use since I use youtube music.
default search engine is google and no Chinese topics or wording anywhere at all.
all of useless MI apps are not installed by default.
Simply saying, a normal global device, not a Chinese one.
Elul said:
Device: Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra
Carrier: T-Mobile
Rom: Xiaomi.eu (12.5.4 Stable version)
So last year when I was unable to purchase a Samsung 21 ultra I decided to look at other devices and purchased the Xiaomi with the understanding that it was a good device and the .eu version ROM is relatively good. After having the device with this ROM on it for several months I find it overall lacking and wanting to switch to something else or just load the default Xiaomi Global ROM on it.
I've heard of other ROMs like Pixel Experience and LineageOS but when I try to research it I'm finding unreliable resources. Due to this I figured I'd ask a few questions here. After the questions I'll leave a pro cons list of the device and the ROM Version I've been using.
- Does changing ROMs change the bands used from a reception standpoint?
- Does anyone else have my device and used another ROM? If so what do you like about it.
- Does anyone have experience or know reliable sources to research other ROMs for my specific device?
- has anyone that used the .eu ROM switched to back to the original global version and did it change anything regarding battery life or all functionality with recent updates?
Pros:
-fast charging is amazing fully charged from less than 10% in 20 min or less
-best camera I've found on the market with more features than I you'd even think of!
-smooth functionality for native applications
-abundance if settings for security that while can be cumbersome give you a lot of choices about app access and how they interact (with other apps, home automation, etc)
Cons:
-battery life doesn't last more than 4-6 hours with use of light gaming even with settings turned mostly to power save
- .eu Google integration is very clunky and seems to conflict with devices natural system which leads to missed/texts calls, reception issues, delayed or poor integration with other apps like Android auto
- odd bugs happen where mutli screen will randomly turn on or keyboard in text apps (all of them) will randomly disappear and you either need to restart device or go through multi-step process to bring back up
-Too many security settings. While it's nice having higher levels of control it would be ideal to have the ability to set a default security level when downloading applications vs having to do make changes when you download or after the fact
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Oh lord. You need to update to the latest. EU rom.
12.5.20 contains fixes for all the things you mentioned, plus already features the Global Enhanced version tweaks to performance with refinements to make it even better.
If you switch to a Global stock rom on a China only variant, you'll loose the ability to use Google Pay and a lot of features so only do so if you're happy to lose out.
As your complaints stem from just not updating for months and months it's not something you'll solve changing roms, instead install the. EU rom update via TWRP.
I'm in the US on t-mobile with a china model flashed with the global ROM. you will not have access to 5G. It is however, very easy to root it and have no problems with google pay or any banking apps.
mstrflsh said:
Oh lord. You need to update to the latest. EU rom.
12.5.20 contains fixes for all the things you mentioned, plus already features the Global Enhanced version tweaks to performance with refinements to make it even better.
If you switch to a Global stock rom on a China only variant, you'll loose the ability to use Google Pay and a lot of features so only do so if you're happy to lose out.
As your complaints stem from just not updating for months and months it's not something you'll solve changing roms, instead install the. EU rom update via TWRP.
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Is there a way to auto update the .EU ROM or does it have to always manually done?
Elul said:
Is there a way to auto update the .EU ROM or does it have to always manually done?
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?
With twrp installed, auto update is semi-auto already
I'm unfamiliar with that is there a guide you'd recommend?
Elul said:
I'm unfamiliar with that is there a guide you'd recommend?
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what guide?
Just follow the installation guide of xiaomi.eu. That's all
Elul said:
I'm unfamiliar with that is there a guide you'd recommend?
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How did you end up flashing the EU rom to begin with, was it via Fastboot or TWRP?
tensux said:
I'm in the US on t-mobile with a china model flashed with the global ROM. you will not have access to 5G. It is however, very easy to root it and have no problems with google pay or any banking apps.
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Hello, I have the Chinese version, which originally came already with the bootloader unlock and with the global version unlock. I really like the global version, but couldn't use a couple of my banking apps, I tried installing magisk and the fix to hidden it but for some reason the device wouldn't pass the safetynet test causing my device not to be certified and my bank apps not to work. Because of this I had to move to xiaomi.eu version, now it pass the safetynet test and all my bank apps work as expected but I really prefer the global version. Is there an easy way to install the global version but passing the safetynet test so my bank apps would work? Like I mentioned I tried different guides to install magisk and the fix to hide it but it wouldn't work, not sure if I did something wrong.
eoga said:
Hello, I have the Chinese version, which originally came already with the bootloader unlock and with the global version unlock. I really like the global version, but couldn't use a couple of my banking apps, I tried installing magisk and the fix to hidden it but for some reason the device wouldn't pass the safetynet test causing my device not to be certified and my bank apps not to work. Because of this I had to move to xiaomi.eu version, now it pass the safetynet test and all my bank apps work as expected but I really prefer the global version. Is there an easy way to install the global version but passing the safetynet test so my bank apps would work? Like I mentioned I tried different guides to install magisk and the fix to hide it but it wouldn't work, not sure if I did something wrong.
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did you use the magisk "universal safetynet fix" module?
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did you use the magisk "universal safetynet fix" module?
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Yes, I follow this video and others, but for some reason didn't work for me. It did show everything installed correctly but it just wouldn't passed the test and my bank apps wouldt work
eoga said:
Yes, I follow this video and others, but for some reason didn't work for me. It did show everything installed correctly but it just wouldn't passed the test and my bank apps wouldt work
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not sure why it didn't work. prolly worth another try
Use V1.2.0 of the SafetyNet fix. Not the latest version (2.2.1).
https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix/releases/download/v1.2.0/safetynet-fix-v1.2.0.zip
Just remove the latest, reboot, then install 1.2.0
mstrflsh said:
Oh lord. You need to update to the latest. EU rom.
12.5.20 contains fixes for all the things you mentioned, plus already features the Global Enhanced version tweaks to performance with refinements to make it even better.
If you switch to a Global stock rom on a China only variant, you'll loose the ability to use Google Pay and a lot of features so only do so if you're happy to lose out.
As your complaints stem from just not updating for months and months it's not something you'll solve changing roms, instead install the. EU rom update via TWRP.
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Stable 12.5.20 is better than WEEKLY 21.12.30 ? 12.5.20 must be installed by twrp and Weekly 21.12.30 must be installed by fastboot? Yes?
Yes thats right
Chicko24 said:
Yes thats right
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Thank you. Do you prefer WEEKLY 21.12.30 VS Stable 12.5.20?
bmwjavier45 said:
Thank you. Do you prefer WEEKLY 21.12.30 VS Stable 12.5.20?
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1st, U must understand what is weekly rom and what is stable rom
And depend on what u need, u will find the most suitable rom for you

General Android 13 Beta 33.0210.0210.100

I received the beta update after applying as soon as it was available.
It works pretty well, I installed it through OTA without a factory reset. Haven't noticed any major bug or issue since installing it, it's very good and outisde of a few imperfections, it could easily look like final software in terms of feature and stability.
Only new feature, coming from the Zenfone9, is the Edge Tool, that allows apps to be run from a sidebar in their own floating window from any screen (reminds me of Small Apps from older Sony phones, pretty useful stuff at the time).
Anyone else from XDA also on the beta?
BlackBerry did it
MarkMRL said:
I received the beta update after applying as soon as it was available.
It works pretty well, I installed it through OTA without a factory reset. Haven't noticed any major bug or issue since installing it, it's very good and outisde of a few imperfections, it could easily look like final software in terms of feature and stability.
Only new feature, coming from the Zenfone9, is the Edge Tool, that allows apps to be run from a sidebar in their own floating window from any screen (reminds me of Small Apps from older Sony phones, pretty useful stuff at the time).
Anyone else from XDA also on the beta?
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I hav applied but not yet received the update.
It's almost 2 weeks that I'm also on the beta on Zen 8.
Very pleased also so far. No issues at all. Just VoWifi option not available as it was before with A11 and A12.
Really satisfied with stability, responsiveness, battery life and so on.
Really well done Asus. Please keep up the good job.

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