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Is there a good way to protect the back camera from scratch?

Hi, under the recommendation of several people, I removed the stock thin film that protected the lens of the back camera. Is there a good way to protect it from scratch? Right now, I am using the SGP Ultra Capsule Series case as shown in the URL.
http://www.spigen.com/sgp-samsung-galaxy-note-case-ultra-capsule-series.html
Thanks.

hajime_android said:
Hi, under the recommendation of several people, I removed the stock thin film that protected the lens of the back camera. Is there a good way to protect it from scratch? Right now, I am using the SGP Ultra Capsule Series case as shown in the URL.
http://www.spigen.com/sgp-samsung-galaxy-note-case-ultra-capsule-series.html
Thanks.
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That's overkill, just buy the Flip Cover, it will add 1mm around your camera lenses.

Since the Device sees the outside world through the Camera , using a layer on the camera will affect the amount of light getting in to camera and hence the quality of the image captured by the device will be low. So using a layer on the camera for protecting it from scratches is not a good option , it will protect the camera from the scratches but it will destroy the sole purpose of the camera. So alternative option will be using a case that can make the camera grooved-in and hence it can give considerable protection as camera surface will be grooved-inside the shell case.Choose the case wisely to get this kind of setup.

The glass covering the camera lens is almost flush with the aluminium border and the plastic back, so when you lay the phone on a flat surface it will almost touch it.
There are very thin cases, that add only 1 mm thickness to the phone and help separate the lens cover from the desk.
I'm trying to use InvisibleShield back proctector, it adheres well to the back cover, after a few days drying it does not seem that it's going to peel-off, and it helps maintaining the camera cover from touching the table.

hajime_android said:
Hi, under the recommendation of several people, I removed the stock thin film that protected the lens of the back camera. Is there a good way to protect it from scratch? Right now, I am using the SGP Ultra Capsule Series case as shown in the URL.
http://www.spigen.com/sgp-samsung-galaxy-note-case-ultra-capsule-series.html
Thanks.
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What you already have is sufficient. Its not that easy to scratch the camera lens, and anything you put in front of it will in some way spoil the quality of your shots. Its not as though there is something available like a UV filter that you would use on an SLR camera. My advise, is just go out and take pictures.

I bought the Real look screen protector from amazon and it comes with 4 tiny screen protector for the back camera. Best imo, but I haven't tried any others

I also got scratches there. Sammy you disappointed again
Get a case with camera shutter.
Sammy used cheap material again, it should have been gorilla glass.

Boy124 said:
I also got scratches there. Sammy you disappointed again
Get a case with camera shutter.
Sammy used cheap material again, it should have been gorilla glass.
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Just out of curiosity, what effect has that had on your picture quality? It shouldn't be that noticeable, if at all, unless its big damage that is. Usually. small scratches cause a 'softening' of the focus, but shouldn't be that apparent, unless your really looking for it. I'm not making excuses for samsung though, and indeed they would probably call it a feature, where your phone will take increasingly romantic soft photographs over time.

bigstarrynight said:
Just out of curiosity, what effect has that had on your picture quality? It shouldn't be that noticeable, if at all, unless its big damage that is. Usually. small scratches cause a 'softening' of the focus, but shouldn't be that apparent, unless your really looking for it. I'm not making excuses for samsung though, and indeed they would probably call it a feature, where your phone will take increasingly romantic soft photographs over time.
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Got 3-4 scratches at the edge, so it did not affect picture quality.
I always used to put the phone face-down but still got scratches.

Boy124 said:
Got 3-4 scratches at the edge, so it did not affect picture quality.
I always used to put the phone face-down but still got scratches.
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Its about what I expected. I wouldn't worry too much. I have an old clam phone and that is scratched to hell, but the pics don't show any noticeable effects. I know its far from a like for like comparison. Also, we used to scrub uv filters with scotch bright to make our own soft focus filters. You would be amazed at how much 'scratching' we had to do before we started to notice any effect. I know you want to treasure your investment, but I would get on and use it to the full. :good:

i got 4 scratches there.. can lense be replaced?
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My Zenus PrintFolder protects the camera nicely. Love this case!
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Just made a rectangular piece of cheap plastic nd glued another plastic foldable holder for my x play. So now during photo time unfold nd zip down nd den zip up. Easy DIY nd works like a charm...

Camera Lens covers/protection

Just wondering if anyone has them applied to your phone. I believe Nillkin sells tempered glass covers for the camera lenses. Anyone care to share pics/reviews?
My camera lens is super scratched and it affects my pictures. My warranty replacement should arrive tomorrow or soon. I don't want to keep the phone if the lens will continue to be an issue. My DUO lens and the rest of the phone are in perfect condition.

its_dale said:
Just wondering if anyone has them applied to your phone. I believe Nillkin sells tempered glass covers for the camera lenses. Anyone care to share pics/reviews?
My camera lens is super scratched and it affects my pictures. My warranty replacement should arrive tomorrow or soon. I don't want to keep the phone if the lens will continue to be an issue. My DUO lens and the rest of the phone are in perfect condition.
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You got a warranty replacement because of the scratched camera lens?
My lens also has some scratches even though I handled the phone like a raw egg... I simply don't understand why HTC uses the cheapest kind of plastic to cover the camera lens, when the rest of the phone is premium quality?!

I bought the Nillkin protector and used the camera lens protectors as well.
See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52353778&postcount=384

I put the Nillkin protectors on the device as soon as I could, dunno if they'll affect the marginal camera in this thing, but the inevitable scratches, which your experience bears out, sure would.

Squpix said:
You got a warranty replacement because of the scratched camera lens?
My lens also has some scratches even though I handled the phone like a raw egg... I simply don't understand why HTC uses the cheapest kind of plastic to cover the camera lens, when the rest of the phone is premium quality?!
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yeah. I complained to ATT about how it's susceptible and I shouldn't have to pay insurance for a manufacturer error blah blah. HTC referred me to the carrier I told them.

I use the camera lens protector thst came with the Nilkin glass protector

TieNN89 said:
I use the camera lens protector thst came with the Nilkin glass protector
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How is it? Mine should be in the mail when I get home later.

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How is it? Mine should be in the mail when I get home later.
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It's pretty good I'm happy with it
Except they could of made the protector a mm or so bigger and it could of covered the whole camera hole but I suspect they didn't so it would be easier to stick on

its_dale said:
Just wondering if anyone has them applied to your phone. I believe Nillkin sells tempered glass covers for the camera lenses. Anyone care to share pics/reviews?
My camera lens is super scratched and it affects my pictures. My warranty replacement should arrive tomorrow or soon. I don't want to keep the phone if the lens will continue to be an issue. My DUO lens and the rest of the phone are in perfect condition.
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My camera lens got a large scratch on it within days of getting it, seems it's the same cheap soft plastic lens cover like all other HTC phones use, such a shame.
Lucky for me the scratch was just off the centre and doesn't seem to notice on picture quality.
To try stop any more scratches I got a martin fields screen protector, as they come with 4 x lens covers, 2 for each rear camera.
I don't notice any loss of picture quality with the protectors over the lenses, so is well worth doing.

I really wish someone would start making lens protectors on their own

Squpix said:
You got a warranty replacement because of the scratched camera lens?
My lens also has some scratches even though I handled the phone like a raw egg... I simply don't understand why HTC uses the cheapest kind of plastic to cover the camera lens, when the rest of the phone is premium quality?!
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How do people do this? I don't understand. I work in the oilfield... Lots of dirt, dust, and sand and have never scratched the lenses. Are you guys using the device naked? Not sure how else it would be possible.

tkoreaper said:
How do people do this? I don't understand. I work in the oilfield... Lots of dirt, dust, and sand and have never scratched the lenses. Are you guys using the device naked? Not sure how else it would be possible.
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Exactly what I want to know too. How is it possible? Never happened to any of my other phones. They wouldn't be replacing it for free if it wasn't possible.

It happens when you try to clean the lens when it has fingerprint smudges on it. Because it's inset, it's much more difficult to clean. I ordered a Nilkin tempered glass protector mainly just for the camera protection.
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Div033 said:
It happens when you try to clean the lens when it has fingerprint smudges on it. Because it's inset, it's much more difficult to clean. I ordered a Nilkin tempered glass protector mainly just for the camera protection.
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Same here. It arrived, but waiting for the replacement phone to come in

Div033 said:
It happens when you try to clean the lens when it has fingerprint smudges on it. Because it's inset, it's much more difficult to clean. I ordered a Nilkin tempered glass protector mainly just for the camera protection.
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What are you using to clean it???!
A paper towel is *not* suitable at all!
Only a microfibre cloth OR lens pen should be used.
In a bind something soft-ish, i.e. terrycloth, could be used.
But never use a paper towel or napkin. Way too harsh for AR coatings, for example.
If the cover is loaded with silica dusts, these should be removed with a lens pen before using any kind of material to clean.
Otherwise you will wind up with tiny scratches that work similar to a diffraction grating filter creating "star" effects around pinpoint sources, lines and and other aberrations that will definitely mar your images.
The only remedy at that point is to replace the cover or remove it completely which puts the actual camera objective lens at risk of exposure.

Slickwraps are considering making lens protectors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52455851

I had an M8 replaced (unrelated issue) which had a bunch of scratches on the main lens cover. I treated it exactly the same as my M7 which didn't get scratches in the 6 months I owned it. I defs think HTC has changed something.
Anyway I got a lens protector with the Nillkin screen protector I bought for the replacement handset, but I mucked up the install so I took it off. Using the Nillkin one as a template, I cut out a circle from a spare M7 screen protector I had lying around. It's not pretty but it does the job perfectly.

Michealtbh said:
Slickwraps are considering making lens protectors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52455851
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cpufrost said:
What are you using to clean it???!
A paper towel is *not* suitable at all!
Only a microfibre cloth OR lens pen should be used.
In a bind something soft-ish, i.e. terrycloth, could be used.
But never use a paper towel or napkin. Way too harsh for AR coatings, for example.
If the cover is loaded with silica dusts, these should be removed with a lens pen before using any kind of material to clean.
Otherwise you will wind up with tiny scratches that work similar to a diffraction grating filter creating "star" effects around pinpoint sources, lines and and other aberrations that will definitely mar your images.
The only remedy at that point is to replace the cover or remove it completely which puts the actual camera objective lens at risk of exposure.
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I used to use paper towels to clean my camera lens, but after reading about how you can remove slight imperfections and scratches by using abrasive materials, I've switched to sandpaper almost exclusively. I tried using a napkin once, but the barbecue sauce (I thought the napkin had dried) got stuck in between the cracks of the lens and device. Needless to say, I don't use napkins anymore.
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I've never heard of a "lens pen" as I have the photographic skill of an untrained rock, but luckily am familiar with microfiber cloths. However I don't see the value in carrying one around as I had no such need with my GS3, a device made almost entirely of cheap plastic. I had no issue using the cloth from my T-shirt and pants pockets (soft, light material) to clean the screen and lens.
The current scratching is minimal and is not affecting my photos. But I know that unless I act now I will have those issues you mentioned. Whether its between buying a lens pen or carrying a microfiber cloth around, I'd much rather just slap a protector on it and call it a day.
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i just ordered this incase the Nillkin doesn't work out
http://www.slickwraps.com/HTC-One-M8-Lens-Protector-p/sw-htconem8-lenspro.htm

keeping the camera lens scratch free

The glass covering the camera lens at the back is protruding so putting it down on any surface would make the glass touch it...how do you guys keep it from scratching?

koppee1 said:
The glass covering the camera lens at the back is protruding so putting it down on any surface would make the glass touch it...how do you guys keep it from scratching?
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A case that's raised more than the camera is what I'm doing. Have done this for years without ever having my lens scratch.
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.

lawtq said:
I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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When I pick mine up from the shop I'll be leaving the plastic on - my S4 has a gaping scratch across its camera lense!

Normally there should be no need to worry unless you intend to drag your phone across a rocky road. It's protected by a veryt scratchresistant glass, simlar to sapphire glass. It can stand a heavy beating and still perform.
The only real problem is fat from your fingers smearing onto the protective glass, this will cause weird looking arefacts with highlights so make sure you keep it clean.
/ Magnus

lawtq said:
I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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The plastic never covered over the sensor itself, only the outside edges.

Nitemare3219 said:
The plastic never covered over the sensor itself, only the outside edges.
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Correct. Good protection. Or you could get the Nillkin Amazing H+ 9H Hardness Anti-Explosion Tempered Glass*for the note 4, it comes with 2 mini tempered glass camera lense protectors

Though I have not used any case or screen protector for the front screen, I have cut exact size glossy screen protector for the camera lens. I developed lots of scratches in S2 lens, from then on I started protecting camera lenses.
Note 4

If you look carefully the platic frame around the glass is just slightly above the glass so really the glass doesn't make contact with a flat surface

The Samsung s-view case is just big enough to keep the lens from touching. It's a good option if you are concerned about the lens getting scratched and want front of phone protection.

If the plastic cover doesn't affect the photos then chances are the odd scratch won't either..

Wife has S5 and glass on the lens seems pretty tough! No scratches yet!

When not using my Note 4, I shoot pictures with high end Nikon glass (lenses). Some will say to put a plain UV filter on the lens as a means of protection, never go naked. Others will ask why would one put an $80 piece of glass in front of finely tuned and crafted $2,500 piece of glass? Additionally, all those large sport photographer lenses you see taking photos.......no filters are made that size, they use hoods which extend several inches from the front of the lens as a means of protection. Now, given the camera in the Note 4 is not a high end DLSR you may not see the difference all that much, depending on the shot. However adding some form of adhoc protector over the camera will certainly cause some form of photo degradation.
If you have a phone case where the camera lens is recessed you should be perfectly fine if: (1) you pay attention how and where you place it down and (2) keep it out of your pants, bags...etc that hold keys and your loose change..etc.
Remove any added plastic or glass in front of your lens; take clearer and sharper pictures!
Goodluck

lawtq said:
I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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I didn't even know there was one those lol I put a skinomi skin on mine hoping that it's raised just enough xD
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lawtq said:
I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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I didn't even know there was one those lol I put a skinomi skin on mine hoping that it's raised just enough xD

Well, my first tip would be to not place your note 4 on a textured surface, press it down into the textured surface and then rubbing it vigorously against it, with your pressure RIGHT on the lens.
Other than that, just use it normally. Dont keep it in a bag of quarters, dont hack at it with nails, dont keep it with your keys in a pocket... The usual nobrainer things.
Should be totally fine. When I place it on a table, the lens doesnt touch the table.

Magnus3D said:
Normally there should be no need to worry unless you intend to drag your phone across a rocky road. It's protected by a veryt scratchresistant glass, simlar to sapphire glass. It can stand a heavy beating and still perform.
The only real problem is fat from your fingers smearing onto the protective glass, this will cause weird looking arefacts with highlights so make sure you keep it clean.
/ Magnus
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/thread - really, the glass on the camera lens is the strongest glass you will find on your mobile device - applies to any phone.

Couldn't resist...cut out an extra screen protector and stuck it on the camera glass lol

lawtq said:
Correct. Good protection. Or you could get the Nillkin Amazing H+ 9H Hardness Anti-Explosion Tempered Glass*for the note 4, it comes with 2 mini tempered glass camera lense protectors
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Never heard of this before.. Have Otterbox but realized my camera lens for smashed today while outside doing yard work... This what you use? Installation hard? Got URL? Thanks in advance.

DrDank said:
Never heard of this before.. Have Otterbox but realized my camera lens for smashed today while outside doing yard work... This what you use? Installation hard? Got URL? Thanks in advance.
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I liked it. Gad the halo effect though unfortunately. But loved the 2 little camera screen protector too! Easy install.

Sorry, don't d have much time to search, url anyone it could i get camera protection for otterbox?

Camera Lens Protector

Does anyone know of a "Camera Lens Protector" that doesn't interfere with flash while recording video and taking pictures?

The builtin factory one... replace if needed.

I've always just got a case that stands tall enough to make sure the camera lens does not come into contact with the surface.

blackhawk said:
The builtin factory one... replace if needed.
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Where would you buy a factory replacement and how much would it cost?

Steamer2499 said:
Where would you buy a factory replacement and how much would it cost?
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You're jumping the gun. Google it... Samsung can replace it as can repair centers.
If you don't have a good case the display is more likely to get destroyed. I be more concerned with a good case and screen protector, both will most likely be a pain to find for a new model.
I don't even worry about damaging my cam as it's well protected by the case. The only thing I do is not use it as a hand hold as your fingers are more likely to mar it if you touch it. Even my S4+'s factory cam plastic lense protector is not scratched after many years in the desert.

blackhawk said:
You're jumping the gun. Google it... Samsung can replace it as can repair centers.
If you don't have a good case the display is more likely to get destroyed. I be more concerned with a good case and screen protector, both will most likely be a pain to find for a new model.
I don't even worry about damaging my cam as it's well protected by the case. The only thing I do is not use it as a hand hold as your fingers are more likely to mar it if you touch it. Even my S4+'s factory cam plastic lense protector is not scratched after many years in the desert.
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The lens protectors that I did buy was prefect for protecting all three lens and taking pictures and video recording. But as soon as you use the flash for either, the flash glare from the corner of the lens protectors was the problem.

Steamer2499 said:
The lens protectors that I did buy was prefect for protecting all three lens and taking pictures and video recording. But as soon as you use the flash for either, the flash glare from the corner of the lens protectors was the problem.
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I use the wet apply Gorilla IQ Sheild for my display. "Self healing" urethane that last a long time and stays put. Something like that but with any added layer you increase the refraction index.
Other undesirable things can happen with uncoated and/or poorly placed optical elements like back reflections and flaring.
Who knows maybe Samsung optic engineers really knew what they were doing... don't screw it up.
People want to protect the lense protector... doesn't really make much sense. This isn't a high dollar front lense, it's a piece of ordinary glass or polycarbonate.
Lense protector protectors are a gimmick.
Worry about a good case and screen protector instead because you will need them.

Question euti/screen protector for cameras

As we know ultra has big camera island any idea to protect them? I saw some special etui but its looks bad imo. Maybe some tempered glass? Is tempered glass not disturb the operation of the cameras? I don't feel confident to put my phone down, I'm always afraid that I will scratch something

I think if you put extra layer of glass on top of cameras you will get extra light reflection in some situation.

protect it. I got my cover on ebay.

A plastic film/glas protector will alter the light hitting the sensors for sure and make it worse

Also, Mi11 Ultra have Laser autofocus, not sure how that will be working with extra glass or film on top of it.
EDIT: seams like there is no laser autofocus...there is DualPixel Autofocus: https://petapixel.com/2021/02/23/samsung-unveils-new-50mp-sensor-with-next-gen-dual-pixel-autofocus/
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veimus said:
Also, Mi11 Ultra have Laser autofocus, not sure how that will be working with extra glass or film on top of it.
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maybe someone will release a rear screen protector with holes for the camera, it doesn't seem hard to do

kuba319 said:
maybe someone will release a rear screen protector with holes for the camera, it doesn't seem hard to do
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Some cases already have holes for the camera, in a few more weeks the case selection will be much larger on ebay , aliexpress and all those asian shopping sites

I ordered this one, I will let u know how it works.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002413657479.html

best option, imho, will be a sort of window that slide when i want to use cameras...