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Hey guys,
I am currently using a oneplus 2 but i am pretty impressed by the looks and the egronomics of mi5 not to mention how thin and light weight this device is. Keeping everything simple n straight, I just wanted to ask that is it wise to upgrade to mi 5?
My main priorities in preferred order are battery life, custom rom development, camera and then everything else.
My usage pattern includes a lot of continuous gaming preferably online multiplayers like mini militia and MC4.
On the contrary, I still prefer compact devices with a 5 inch display over a 5.5 inch.
My oneplus 2 is still rocking and I can easily get 2.5-3hrs of SOT with gaming and 4-4.5hrs without it.
Moreover, I wanted to know about the known cons or problems with mi 5 if any as if by any chance buy it, I'll be using it for at least 2yrs. I am just hesitant to buy it because only the 32gb version is available in my region and the phone I am currently using already has 4gb ram and 64gb storage!
I'll be grateful for any helps and suggestions!
Thanks!
Since you are already with one plus I would recommend you upgrade to the OnePlus 3/3T
Mi 5 is a great phone for sure but OP3 is much better for sure also if you are ok with the extra money
I see there is a lot less community development going on as no one seems to be really interested in replying with an reasonable suggestions or help as its been long since I asked for them!
Anyways, I'll still wait for someone to come up until I don't buy some new device!
it is one of the best phones in its class.
well, personally, i dont really like how op3/t looks, and 5.5 is too big for my taste. if you looking for decent camera, performance, and looks, i definetely consider mi5 altho OP3/T is so much better in terms of performance and rom dev as you can see, right now i'm rocking purenexus custom rom on my mi5 and the performance is top notch tho camera still prefer miui based rom. Anyway, these are some points from my usage :
1. Battery life is decent in original MIUI rom, but best at Purenexus rom, beware not all custom rom have great battery life
2. the vibration motor in Mi5 isnt as good as others, even compared to mi4c, i know, its nitpicking, but really for long term use this little thing is quite significant
3. 3GB of RAM arent enough for me at least. if u interested, please consider the 4gb ones
4. fingerprint is not that fast, and the area is quite small
If you really wanna use this phone for at least 2 years, i do think OP3T is your best choice for support. but idk, the kernel source of Mi5 already out, so maybe we'll see better support.
Mi5 is really great device, it is very cheap, and the specs are very impressive. the battery life is very good, here is a picture of my results but note that I don't play games. Custom ROM development is good, not the best nor the worst. I think you should consider waiting a bit more and buy mi6. it will be a little but more expensive but the specs will be much better.
Hey guys
I currently own a Galaxy S8, but I seriously consider buying the Mi Mix 2 once it will be available
I don't really like big overlays, I hate Touchwiz (or Samsung Experience or whatever), but I'm wondering what about MIUI
So I'm asking you guys the question : What do you think about MIUI ? What are its advantages and its drawbacks according to you ? Why would it be better than an other brand's software ?
Thanks !
BigBen60 said:
Hey guys
I currently own a Galaxy S8, but I seriously consider buying the Mi Mix 2 once it will be available
I don't really like big overlays, I hate Touchwiz (or Samsung Experience or whatever), but I'm wondering what about MIUI
So I'm asking you guys the question : What do you think about MIUI ? What are its advantages and its drawbacks according to you ? Why would it be better than an other brand's software ?
Thanks !
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The only thing I hate about MIUI is notifications (expand with two fingers, cant interact them in lock screen), besides that I like the design and optimizations, If you dont really care about the notifications handling than you will enjoy it.
Note that now Im using an almost stock android custom rom (ViperOS).
Anyone else ?
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Anyone else ?
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At the first I'm in love at MIUI , but in my perspective it's so laggy after learning about RR and custom kernel and tweaking many things I'll not buy devices with no custom development
As far as performance goes, I've always found MIUI to be smoother than custom ROMs. The gap now is almost non-existent, but 4-5 months back MIUI (and EPIC which is a MIUI mod) was quicker. I've never had a phone with a heavy UI like Touchwiz (mostly Nexus/Moto) so I can't really compare.
Even when I used MIUI (EPIC), I didn't use any MIUI apps. The Google/3rd party alternatives are all better.
The only feature that I'm aware of that MIUI has that others don't is Second Space, which allows you to run two separate versions of any app. Maybe others have it and I've never noticed. It might not even be something you'd use anyway. Some nice features are swiping down to hide the nav bar (frees up more space, although I've heard this has been tweaked in MIUI 9, and not for the better) and quick ball in the nav bar (like a basic PIE control). The themes are pretty good too, and there are a lot of them, but they only apply to the MIUI UI and not the apps themselves (unlike substratum on a custom ROM).
If you go with a custom ROM you will gain a lot but you'll also lose those features, and others like MIUI Cloud backup/Find My Device etc. Since you're talking about the Mi Mix 2, it could be months before custom ROMs are useable as a daily driver anyway so you may have to sit on MIUI for a while at least, even assuming that custom ROMs will be possible (highly likely given other Xiaomi devices).
The major disadvantage, as was mentioned, is the crappy notification implementation. Given the amount of notifications some people can get, it might be a mild inconvenience or a huge pain. There are apps that can mitigate this problem though, like Floatify. It also doesn't have ambient/always-on display. You'll be 'stuck' on Nougat too, so any new Oreo features like PIP (Picture-in-picture) and Notification channels likely won't make it to MIUI for a long time. We're only now getting split screen mode which I had almost 18 months ago on the Nexus 6.
I was primed to get the Mi Mix about this time last year but I waited about 6 months for the price to drop (so I could get the 256/6GB model) but also for ROM development to pick up. I'd recommend the same. Even a year later, how many alternatives are there that have a very large screen combined with high-end specs? Barely any that I can think of, barring the S8+ (6.2 inch, 84% screen-to-body ratio), the V30 (6/81.3%) and the Honor Note 9 (6.6 inch, not yet available).
Personally, I'm in love with MIUI since late 2013.
It's just a complete ROM for me, all features I need are just there and once you start using them it's hard to switch to something else.
I tried many ROM's like RR, CM, LOS, Flyme, etc but always revert back after some time. When using MIUI, I just don't need any 3rd party apps unlike on other ROM's where I have to replace almost every single system app to get functions I need or I get used to. Not to mention that nothing beats MIUI battery life, even with the underclocked kernel on custom ROM's can't beat simple battery saving on MIUI. Performance is the same as I noticed in my daily usage between custom ROM and MIUI, just slightly better Antutu scores on MIUI (if numbers mean something to you).
My suggestion is to try MIUI ROM if you have a chance since usage depends from user to user and it would be silly to say which one is better when everyone has different opinion
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The only thing I hate about MIUI is notifications (expand with two fingers, cant interact them in lock screen), besides that I like the design and optimizations, If you dont really care about the notifications handling than you will enjoy it.
Note that now Im using an almost stock android custom rom (ViperOS).
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Fusionist said:
At the first I'm in love at MIUI , but in my perspective it's so laggy after learning about RR and custom kernel and tweaking many things I'll not buy devices with no custom development
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As far as performance goes, I've always found MIUI to be smoother than custom ROMs. The gap now is almost non-existent, but 4-5 months back MIUI (and EPIC which is a MIUI mod) was quicker. I've never had a phone with a heavy UI like Touchwiz (mostly Nexus/Moto) so I can't really compare.
Even when I used MIUI (EPIC), I didn't use any MIUI apps. The Google/3rd party alternatives are all better.
The only feature that I'm aware of that MIUI has that others don't is Second Space, which allows you to run two separate versions of any app. Maybe others have it and I've never noticed. It might not even be something you'd use anyway. Some nice features are swiping down to hide the nav bar (frees up more space, although I've heard this has been tweaked in MIUI 9, and not for the better) and quick ball in the nav bar (like a basic PIE control). The themes are pretty good too, and there are a lot of them, but they only apply to the MIUI UI and not the apps themselves (unlike substratum on a custom ROM).
If you go with a custom ROM you will gain a lot but you'll also lose those features, and others like MIUI Cloud backup/Find My Device etc. Since you're talking about the Mi Mix 2, it could be months before custom ROMs are useable as a daily driver anyway so you may have to sit on MIUI for a while at least, even assuming that custom ROMs will be possible (highly likely given other Xiaomi devices).
The major disadvantage, as was mentioned, is the crappy notification implementation. Given the amount of notifications some people can get, it might be a mild inconvenience or a huge pain. There are apps that can mitigate this problem though, like Floatify. It also doesn't have ambient/always-on display. You'll be 'stuck' on Nougat too, so any new Oreo features like PIP (Picture-in-picture) and Notification channels likely won't make it to MIUI for a long time. We're only now getting split screen mode which I had almost 18 months ago on the Nexus 6.
I was primed to get the Mi Mix about this time last year but I waited about 6 months for the price to drop (so I could get the 256/6GB model) but also for ROM development to pick up. I'd recommend the same. Even a year later, how many alternatives are there that have a very large screen combined with high-end specs? Barely any that I can think of, barring the S8+ (6.2 inch, 84% screen-to-body ratio), the V30 (6/81.3%) and the Honor Note 9 (6.6 inch, not yet available).
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Manwex said:
Personally, I'm in love with MIUI since late 2013.
It's just a complete ROM for me, all features I need are just there and once you start using them it's hard to switch to something else.
I tried many ROM's like RR, CM, LOS, Flyme, etc but always revert back after some time. When using MIUI, I just don't need any 3rd party apps unlike on other ROM's where I have to replace almost every single system app to get functions I need or I get used to. Not to mention that nothing beats MIUI battery life, even with the underclocked kernel on custom ROM's can't beat simple battery saving on MIUI. Performance is the same as I noticed in my daily usage between custom ROM and MIUI, just slightly better Antutu scores on MIUI (if numbers mean something to you).
My suggestion is to try MIUI ROM if you have a chance since usage depends from user to user and it would be silly to say which one is better when everyone has different opinion
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Okay guys, thank you very much for giving your opinion !
I've been given a white and gold 3T that was no longer needed. The battery is a bit shot and the screen has burn in on the status bar. I was thinking, if I send it off for a new battery by OnePlus, is it worth using?
My current phone is a Pixel 2XL, but I am missing the headphone jack and the cell reception isn't the best...
Is the 3T decent on the stock rom? Or is it better on a custom rom/kernel?
I only really use YouTube, Gmail, Netflix and messenger... Just want it to be smooth enough.
Thanks
The stock ROM updated to the latest security patch seems okay. YouTube is a bit laggy compared to my Pixel 2Xl.
I do prefer the size of the 3T though, it's really compact.
Would a custom kernel speed up the stock ROM? On apps like YouTube?
Also, I have managed to get the WiFi calling option to appear in settings, but from memory, I don't think it actually works? I am on the 3 UK network.
I sent mine a couple of months ago for a new battery and it's 100% worth it.
Custom kernels do speed up the stock ROM but your battery life might suffer a bit., so if you want the best experience I'd suggest a custom ROM based on Pie (e.g. Havoc/Luis' Resurrection Remix). Q ROMs are good enough but most of the better ones (as far as battery life is concerned) don't support device encryption yet.
I cannot comment on WiFi calling as I don't use it at all.
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I sent mine a couple of months ago for a new battery and it's 100% worth it.
Custom kernels do speed up the stock ROM but your battery life might suffer a bit., so if you want the best experience I'd suggest a custom ROM based on Pie (e.g. Havoc/Luis' Resurrection Remix). Q ROMs are good enough but most of the better ones (as far as battery life is concerned) don't support device encryption yet.
I cannot comment on WiFi calling as I don't use it at all.
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Good to know, thanks.
Would that be a Pie custom ROM and a custom kernel?
My only concern with custom ROMs is that I use banking apps and other apps that then may not work when rooted or on custom firmware. Does Magisk get past this? I have been using the 3T this morning and other than the unusable battery, the phone is quite nice. I like the size, the performance is decent enough (I expect it'll improve on a custom ROM) and the screen is brighter than my Pixel 2XL. It is definitely slower though, apps like gmail take a couple of seconds longer to load, but I am never in much of a rush!
How much did OnePlus charge you for a battery replacement? Can it be sent off to them when on a custom ROM, or does it need to be fully stock for them to do any work on it?
Thanks.
gman88667733 said:
Good to know, thanks.
Would that be a Pie custom ROM and a custom kernel?
My only concern with custom ROMs is that I use banking apps and other apps that then may not work when rooted or on custom firmware. Does Magisk get past this? I have been using the 3T this morning and other than the unusable battery, the phone is quite nice. I like the size, the performance is decent enough (I expect it'll improve on a custom ROM) and the screen is brighter than my Pixel 2XL. It is definitely slower though, apps like gmail take a couple of seconds longer to load, but I am never in much of a rush!
How much did OnePlus charge you for a battery replacement? Can it be sent off to them when on a custom ROM, or does it need to be fully stock for them to do any work on it?
Thanks.
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Havoc/Resurrection Remix etc are custom ROMs which come bundled with their own custom kernel. Mind you, Pie versions of custom ROMs are mainly to be found in their up-to-date threads (even if they're updated for the Q versions). Check the most thanked posts on the sidebar in the Havoc thread for an easy way to get to the updated Pie ROM with the latest security patches.
Magisk does pass CTS and banking apps/Google Pay work in my case, but it does need a module and some editing in order to work. The MagiskHide Props Config module does that job, you'll need to configure it - selecting OnePlus as brand and 3T as model, latest update, works though. Here's a quick link to the module's thread with info etc. You'll also need Busybox (available again as a module in Magisk) in order to get the Props Config module to work.
The battery replacement was free even though the initial quote was around 36€ so around 30 quid - don't know why, might have been because of the free out-of-warranty camera replacement I requested as well. I'd suggest doing that too, the original OP3 and 3T cameras are known to stop focusing after a while and OnePlus offers a free fix even if the phone is out of warranty.
TheZorg said:
Havoc/Resurrection Remix etc are custom ROMs which come bundled with their own custom kernel. Mind you, Pie versions of custom ROMs are mainly to be found in their up-to-date threads (even if they're updated for the Q versions). Check the most thanked posts on the sidebar in the Havoc thread for an easy way to get to the updated Pie ROM with the latest security patches.
Magisk does pass CTS and banking apps/Google Pay work in my case, but it does need a module and some editing in order to work. The MagiskHide Props Config module does that job, you'll need to configure it - selecting OnePlus as brand and 3T as model, latest update, works though. Here's a quick link to the module's thread with info etc. You'll also need Busybox (available again as a module in Magisk) in order to get the Props Config module to work.
The battery replacement was free even though the initial quote was around 36€ so around 30 quid - don't know why, might have been because of the free out-of-warranty camera replacement I requested as well. I'd suggest doing that too, the original OP3 and 3T cameras are known to stop focusing after a while and OnePlus offers a free fix even if the phone is out of warranty.
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Okay, thanks again. A battery is about £15 online and replacement is very easy, so I am not sure whether to do it DIY or get them to do it and hope they may do it for free if I claim to have camera issues? (it focuses fine at the moment...)
I've had fairly good experiences with Resurrection Remix in the past when I dabbled with ROMs on my Nexus 6P (I stopped when I got my Moto Z Play as it never really needed it) So I'll give that a go tonight and see how it performs. The battery truly is shot, my partner who owned it before always had it at 100% brightness and used it whilst charging, so it degraded very quickly. As did the OnePlus 5 I gave her last year.!!!
I wish screens were cheaper for it as it has severe burn in on the notification bar, due to it being used at full brightness all the time... but the rest of the phone is in mint condition, so it seems daft to pay a fair amount of money to get rid of some burn in...
gman88667733 said:
Okay, thanks again. A battery is about £15 online and replacement is very easy, so I am not sure whether to do it DIY or get them to do it and hope they may do it for free if I claim to have camera issues? (it focuses fine at the moment...)
I've had fairly good experiences with Resurrection Remix in the past when I dabbled with ROMs on my Nexus 6P (I stopped when I got my Moto Z Play as it never really needed it) So I'll give that a go tonight and see how it performs. The battery truly is shot, my partner who owned it before always had it at 100% brightness and used it whilst charging, so it degraded very quickly. As did the OnePlus 5 I gave her last year.!!!
I wish screens were cheaper for it as it has severe burn in on the notification bar, due to it being used at full brightness all the time... but the rest of the phone is in mint condition, so it seems daft to pay a fair amount of money to get rid of some burn in...
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You're welcome! I chose the RMA way just to be extra safe, I wanted an OEM battery after reading mixed reviews concerning third party batteries (the general consensus is that they're not as long lasting, but the ones from ReplaceBase should be at least half decent) and the price difference has been worth it, for now. My autofocus was just starting to malfunction when I applied for the RMA, you could try and give it a shot.
Yeah, screens are expensive and the chances of getting an LCD display or a flickering screen when using a custom ROM are rather high and not worth the price if the burn-in doesn't bother you that much.
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You're welcome! I chose the RMA way just to be extra safe, I wanted an OEM battery after reading mixed reviews concerning third party batteries (the general consensus is that they're not as long lasting, but the ones from ReplaceBase should be at least half decent) and the price difference has been worth it, for now. My autofocus was just starting to malfunction when I applied for the RMA, you could try and give it a shot.
Yeah, screens are expensive and the chances of getting an LCD display or a flickering screen when using a custom ROM are rather high and not worth the price if the burn-in doesn't bother you that much.
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Is it just autofocus that is the issue? Tap to focus works fine. Autofocus does seem a bit temperamental....
What is your battery like post-replacement?
OnePlus customer service say they will replace camera free of charge (it doesn't seem too bad, but may as well?) And they will replace the battery for £24.50
Not a bad price really!
Assuming I can get WiFi calling to work, I think I will get it replaced. As long as I can get 5 hours SOT out of it across a mixed usage day, that'd be the maximum I'd ever need. I rarely ever go over 3.5-4 hours SOT on any day on any of my phones.
That's not a bad price at all!
SoT is, well, extremely subjective but I usually get around 4.5/5 hours SoT if mainly outdoors on LTE. WiFi, on the other hand, I can easily get around 6.5 to even 7 hours SoT. That's mainly Reddit/YouTube/Telegram/a bit of Instagram.
Autofocus started getting way more erratic than usual, tap to focus sometimes did nothing - this will generally degrade to a point where the camera won't even focus in manual mode. Also, backup your data before sending the phone (and maybe leave it on stock OOS). You'll basically start fresh with a locked bootloader and OOS 9.0.6.
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That's not a bad price at all!
SoT is, well, extremely subjective but I usually get around 4.5/5 hours SoT if mainly outdoors on LTE. WiFi, on the other hand, I can easily get around 6.5 to even 7 hours SoT. That's mainly Reddit/YouTube/Telegram/a bit of Instagram.
Autofocus started getting way more erratic than usual, tap to focus sometimes did nothing - this will generally degrade to a point where the camera won't even focus in manual mode. Also, backup your data before sending the phone (and maybe leave it on stock OOS). You'll basically start fresh with a locked bootloader and OOS 9.0.6.
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Oh wow, really? That is better that I would have imagined it would get!
I am hoping it may work out if I stay on stock as I do prefer sticking to stock these days, but if not, I will give RR a go.
gman88667733 said:
Oh wow, really? That is better that I would have imagined it would get!
I am hoping it may work out if I stay on stock as I do prefer sticking to stock these days, but if not, I will give RR a go.
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Stock shouldn't be that far off those numbers. Hope you'll enjoy it!
Here's hoping!
What sort of a performance increase would there be in RR over stock? Noticeable?
Are they still giving free fix for the camera in OnePlus 3?
aashutoshrc said:
Are they still giving free fix for the camera in OnePlus 3?
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Yes. I was told yesterday by OnePlus that they will fix it for free even though it is well out of warranty
gman88667733 said:
Here's hoping!
What sort of a performance increase would there be in RR over stock? Noticeable?
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Sorry for the delay - RR, Havoc and custom ROMs in general would both feel smoother and more battery-friendly over stock, but I don't know if it's that huge of a difference. Haven't really tried Pie OOS that much but it felt like there was a bit more stutter when compared to custom ROMs.
Hey guys,
I'm a longtime Oneplus user (had every phone from the Oneplus One to the 9 Pro). I'm looking to jump onboard the Mi 11 train, but wanted to know a couple things...
1. How is the overall performance compared to the 9 Pro? I'm used to the fluidity of OxygenOS for so long that anything slower will be a pain to get used to.
2. Can the 65W Warp Charger from Oneplus work (at 65W) with Xiaomi's phone?
3. How easy is it to root? I have a few apps that I use regularly that require root.
4. When rooting or fiddling around on the whole, how easy is it to reflash and start again? I know that OP has tools like MSMTool where I can just reflash the entire phone back to stock incase I f*$k everything up. Samsung also has Odin. Is there an equivalent for the Mi 11 Ultra?
bounti said:
Hey guys,
I'm a longtime Oneplus user (had every phone from the Oneplus One to the 9 Pro). I'm looking to jump onboard the Mi 11 train, but wanted to know a couple things...
1. How is the overall performance compared to the 9 Pro? I'm used to the fluidity of OxygenOS for so long that anything slower will be a pain to get used to.
2. Can the 65W Warp Charger from Oneplus work (at 65W) with Xiaomi's phone?
3. How easy is it to root? I have a few apps that I use regularly that require root.
4. It, when rooting or fiddling around on the whole, how easy is it to reflash and start again? I know that OP has tools like MSMTool where I can just reflash the entire phone back to stock incase I f*$k everything up. Samsung also has Odin. Is there an equivalent for the Mi 11 Ultra?
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1. I think miui will be slower. I heard people said that oxygen is almost like stock android, but miui have alot of extra function
2. I think no, different charge technology. Of course, charge will be fast but u will not be at maximum of "warp" things
3. Ez af
4. Ez af, too (miflash)
hungragezone said:
1. I think miui will be slower. I heard people said that oxygen is almost like stock android, but miui have alot of extra function
2. I think no, different charge technology. Of course, charge will be fast but u will not be at maximum of "warp" things
3. Ez af
4. Ez af, too (miflash)
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I am also an user from oneplus by 1 to 8 PRO
Instead the 9 PRO I bought the Mi11 ULTRA.
unfortunately I have to tell you that the 8pro was faster
the oneplus touch is much more instantaneous and so is the fingerprint reader.
However here you have a camera that looks better and for me who love photos it has been determined but if you want speed, responsiveness and a more naked system well stay on oneplus friend
the mi11 ultra has another philosophy
Thanks for the responses guys.
Is the performance night and day? If it's a big difference between them performance-wise, I don't think I can I've with that. I've gotten way too used to the speed and responsiveness of OxygenOS.
Hi, Allow me to join with my experience.
I moved from oneplus 6t to Mi11U, ( i know they are incomparable, but as a software experience, it is same as all oneplus devices), so i'd like to mention the following comments, worth to be considered:
- Animation in oxygen is faster in MIUI, that is where you'll find oxygen faster in general, this can be changed in developer view settings in MIUI under (Drawing section) and changing all animation and duration scales to 0.5 to OFF. and you'll notice the difference.
- Oneplus fingerprint is totally faster than MIUI in everyway. but a split second does not hold me off from a new experience.
- Camera is a matter of taste, and your own choice of photos. Personally, I love MI11U over OP9Pro, but photos of OP9Pro might be more preferable to me.
- MIUI bloatware is annoying for sure (only in CN and EU. versions). I use global (out of the box) Mi11U, which has its own apps, but nothing is annoying and it is really comfortable to use.
- MIUI software in general over oxygen, that is after a very long experience with Oneplus ( over 3 years with 3 devices), compared to MIUI for almost a year now. MIUI is almost bug free, smooth, security and memory manager app is really useful and manges your device very well. compared to oxygen, you'll have minor bugs (not major) all the time that will NEVER be gone, faster updates but most of the time they replace bugs with others. never ending story which is pretty annoying.
i'd like to summarize with the following:
- Device in general : MI11U
- Camera : OP9Pro (with more potentials in MI11U)
- Software speed : OP9Pro out of the box, but I'd say Tie (Possible to improve in MIUI with developer options).
- Fingerprint scanner: OP9Pro by split seconds.
- Software cleanliness and smoothness : Tie (Global MIUI considered)
- Software bug free: MI11U with a huge margin. actually, it completely thrashes Oxygen.
- UI and functions: Mi11U with a huge margin
- General device experience: Mi11U
- Gaming speed and memory management: Mi11U
I was about to check out OP9Pro and then decided lets risk with a change. and I don't regret it.
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Hi, Allow me to join with my experience.
I moved from oneplus 6t to Mi11U, ( i know they are incomparable, but as a software experience, it is same as all oneplus devices), so i'd like to mention the following comments, worth to be considered:
- Animation in oxygen is faster in MIUI, that is where you'll find oxygen faster in general, this can be changed in developer view settings in MIUI under (Drawing section) and changing all animation and duration scales to 0.5 to OFF. and you'll notice the difference.
- Oneplus fingerprint is totally faster than MIUI in everyway. but a split second does not hold me off from a new experience.
- Camera is a matter of taste, and your own choice of photos. Personally, I love MI11U over OP9Pro, but photos of OP9Pro might be more preferable to me.
- MIUI bloatware is annoying for sure (only in CN and EU. versions). I use global (out of the box) Mi11U, which has its own apps, but nothing is annoying and it is really comfortable to use.
- MIUI software in general over oxygen, that is after a very long experience with Oneplus ( over 3 years with 3 devices), compared to MIUI for almost a year now. MIUI is almost bug free, smooth, security and memory manager app is really useful and manges your device very well. compared to oxygen, you'll have minor bugs (not major) all the time that will NEVER be gone, faster updates but most of the time they replace bugs with others. never ending story which is pretty annoying.
i'd like to summarize with the following:
- Device in general : MI11U
- Camera : OP9Pro (with more potentials in MI11U)
- Software speed : OP9Pro out of the box, but I'd say Tie (Possible to improve in MIUI with developer options).
- Fingerprint scanner: OP9Pro by split seconds.
- Software cleanliness and smoothness : Tie (Global MIUI considered)
- Software bug free: MI11U with a huge margin. actually, it completely thrashes Oxygen.
- UI and functions: Mi11U with a huge margin
- General device experience: Mi11U
- Gaming speed and memory management: Mi11U
I was about to check out OP9Pro and then decided lets risk with a change. and I don't regret it.
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Thanks a hassanaliyeh. You made my decision a lot easier. It's always hard to move to something new, but I think I'll give them a try.
I'm reading however that there a 7 day wait when trying to unlock the phone's bootloader. Is that true? Can someone direct me to an updated guide for rooting and unlocking?
168 hours between starting the process and the actual unlock and format. Just make sure you use latest version of mi-unlock tool from Xiaomi and ensure you have a fully bonded Xiaomi account on your phone and the Xiaomi website or it won't unlock. There is no way around the wait unfortunately and remember to not lock the bootloader unless you are back on original stock ROM branch. If you go Xiaomi EU ROM, the bootloader shows unlocked but the ROM acts as if it is, so no loss of security and no need to root unless there is something specific you need that requires it. Lots of guides for unlocking but just follow the Xiaomi guide on their website.
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168 hours between starting the process and the actual unlock and format. Just make sure you use latest version of mi-unlock tool from Xiaomi and ensure you have a fully bonded Xiaomi account on your phone and the Xiaomi website or it won't unlock. There is no way around the wait unfortunately and remember to not lock the bootloader unless you are back on original stock ROM branch. If you go Xiaomi EU ROM, the bootloader shows unlocked but the ROM acts as if it is, so no loss of security and no need to root unless there is something specific you need that requires it. Lots of guides for unlocking but just follow the Xiaomi guide on their website.
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Ok understood. I'm buying the 11 Ultra from someone and I just found out the bootloader is already unlocked. Once I wipe and set up my own Xiaomi account, I shouldn't have any worries right? All that should be left to do is just root?
I think so but I've never bought a second hand Xiaomi. Maybe someone who has gone through this process could comment? I would have thought that once you logout or the previous owner logs out, it should just be a matter of formatting data and logging in from scratch with your account?
Before wiping off the device, log out of his mi account first. And better if you create yours and log it in then wipe off.
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Ok understood. I'm buying the 11 Ultra from someone and I just found out the bootloader is already unlocked. Once I wipe and set up my own Xiaomi account, I shouldn't have any worries right? All that should be left to do is just root?
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Ha, 99% that your 11U is CN version
There is tiny difference on 5G bands with CN and global, just all
Guys, I'm in desperate need of your help.
So in fiddling around with MiFlash, I attempted to flash the stock Global Rom over, but didn't realize that the 'clean all and lock' option was select. No sure who's genius design choice it was to have that option selected by default, but now my phone is bricked and can't get past the recovery screen
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Guys, I'm in desperate need of your help.
So in fiddling around with MiFlash, I attempted to flash the stock Global Rom over, but didn't realize that the 'clean all and lock' option was select. No sure who's genius design choice it was to have that option selected by default, but now my phone is bricked and can't get past the recovery screen
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First of all, I recommend to wait for phones with MediaTek Dimensity 9000 releasing next year Q1, or phones with Qualcomm 8 gen 1 made by TSMC next year Q3Q4(instead of chipsets made by Samsung).
Qualcomm's snapdragon 888 and 8 gen 1 suffers from Samsung's poor manufacturing and have big heating issues and poor performance to energy consumption rate issues.
MediaTek Dimensity 9000 is being made by TMSC, and there will be Qualcomm 8 gen 1 made by TMSC in the later half of next year, and they will have better(lower) power consumption and temperature.
Therefore Mi 11 with snapdragon 888 is not recommended.
However, to answer your question:
1. MiUI's overall performance is not bad, and on par with Oxygen OS.
2.Xiaomi's phone uses USB-PD charging, it's more universal(meaning lots of charger on market and not expensive), and offers higher charging rate. It's a difference protocol than Warp Charging and your 65W Warp Charger will only charge 5W1A on Xiaomi's phone.
3.Ez
4.Ez
Finally, after a long battle with Mi 11 ultra and MIUI bugs for many past months, I jumped the ship from Android back to iOS and got myself a shiny new iPhone 13 pro max. I lost some 500 hundred USD because of my misadventure. In the interim, I used S21 ultra for 1 month but did not find it amusing either.
Reasons for switching from Mi11 ultra were;
1. Forced to use bug-loaded beta software on my only device because the stable versions were lacking in either features or security.
2. The back screen was a failed experiment for me. Did not find it useful as I was never a selfy-taking guy in the first place as I don't like seeing my own depression a lot.
3. Although iOS is not that open to use, it still has got many features to keep me hanging around. I would miss sideloading apps with that ease....
Sorry for hurting anyone's sentiments here. I do not intend or wish to ask anyone for switching to iOS. I am just trying to inform a googler a little bit...
I am very much thankful for the support I got from this community. Stay blessed.
You force yourself to use beta versions and then complain for bugs, lol
Do use understand what "beta" stand for?
And what do u mean lack of feature and security?
What feature exactly?
Lack of security? Ios never show that your phone now has what security update date, so people will never complain sh1t things about that like Android, LOL
I owned 1 ipad and android phone, and now I only use my ipad when my child want to see some youtube video, when my phone is charging (30 mins to full charge) and i can use Facebook or chrome when waiting, just all.
I used the beta because the stable ones would not feel secure as the security patch would always be a few months old.
Lack of features means the difference between the features in EU ROM beta (weekly) vs EU stable and not between iPhone 13 pro max vs mi 11 ultra.
Comparing Android vs iOS is a never-ending argument. Both have their pros and cons. It depends on a user what fits his/her requirements. I traded the openness on android for optimization and security on iOS. One example of a real-world impact of optimization is the battery life; despite having a smaller battery, iPhone pro max lasts for 2 days on a single charge for me. The overnight drop in the battery percentage is barely 1-2%. Mi 11 ultra needed to be charged twice daily and the overnight drop in the battery would be between 5 and 10% depending on strength of phone signals I guess. The fast charging speed was convenient but having to connect it to the charger twice daily was not.
Almost every week, Android trojans-loaded apps are detected even on the Play Store, let alone in the sideloaded apps. In such settings, Google either needs to be able to deliver the latest security patches to all vendors independently of their collaboration or shut the hell up about security. With their current approach, only Pixel phones get timely updates. The rest of us are left at the mercy of vendors who decide when to provide us with those security patches. Samsung still does some justice for being consistent with its update policy. Xiaomi is a total loss in this regard.
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I used the beta because the stable ones would not feel secure as the security patch would always be a few months old.
Lack of features means the difference between the features in EU ROM beta (weekly) vs EU stable and not between iPhone 13 pro max vs mi 11 ultra.
Comparing Android vs iOS is a never-ending argument. Both have their pros and cons. It depends on a user what fits his/her requirements. I traded the openness on android for optimization and security on iOS. One example of a real-world impact of optimization is the battery life; despite having a smaller battery, iPhone pro max lasts for 2 days on a single charge for me. The overnight drop in the battery percentage is barely 1-2%. Mi 11 ultra needed to be charged twice daily and the overnight drop in the battery would be between 5 and 10% depending on strength of phone signals I guess. The fast charging speed was convenient but having to connect it to the charger twice daily was not.
Almost every week, Android trojans-loaded apps are detected even on the Play Store, let alone in the sideloaded apps. In such settings, Google either needs to be able to deliver the latest security patches to all vendors independently of their collaboration or shut the hell up about security. With their current approach, only Pixel phones get timely updates. The rest of us are left at the mercy of vendors who decide when to provide us with those security patches. Samsung still does some justice for being consistent with its update policy. Xiaomi is a total loss in this regard.
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"Both have their pros and cons. It depends on a user what fits his/her Requirements."
You said everything in that statement, I am not trying to pull you back to Mi 11 Ultra, but some of the stuff you said earlier is not justified in my opinion:
First: Beta software is what it's called: "BETA" as in "FOR TESTING" I would not use it on a phone that is a daily driver, as I am using Xiaomi.EU Stable I haven't encountered any bugs, the OS is rock solid, and I don't feel like i'm missing out on "features", also about the lack of the latest security update: are you downloading tons of ****, from third party apps and sideloading a ton of apps? otherwise the latest update is not the most crucial thing, if you keep apps updated by google play store you should be more than fine, I never had any issues on that regard and I'm on android since 2015, finally the battery thing is totally justified, I am not heavy user so mostly a single charge a day is enough for me, but I totally get having to charge this phone for twice or more a day for heavy use, luckily it's half solved by its awesome 67w wired and wireless charging, so in the end, if you are staying with the phone long term, I would agree iphone 13 pro max should last way longer, due to it's awesome battery life, but if you are a person who likes to advance with technology, Mi 11 Ultra and in the future when Xiaomi 12 Ultra will be released is the way to go, (I personally upgrade every year), but again as you said:
"Both have their pros and cons. It depends on a user what fits his/her Requirements."
the good thing is that we have choice, and if I would feel that I had enough with technology and would like to settle down, I would get an iphone 13 pro max (or whatever top end iphone is released by then) as my daily driver as it is a get and forget device with software support of 5+ years,
sorry for long rant, I just love talking about phones
My only reason for having the beta was to be able to have the monthly security patch. Because it was the only way to obtain the patches as soon as they became available. I did sideloaded apps. Morever, my browsing habits are not very secure in general. So for me, a security patch used to be a big deal. I donated Mi 11 ultra to a friend of mine who does not give a thing about security patches. He is happily using it on stable global version
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I hate apple but the difference between iphone 13 pro max and this phone is chalk and cheese
I don't think any SD 888 phones Are power efficient but this one is probably close to the worst of the worst
As a heavy user I have to turn down the display resolution and refresh rate and still need to charge it 2x daily
The 67w charging is nice , I don't think I could live with a device that takes 2-3 hours to charge anymore
I usually change phones yearly anyway so my next will hopefully be charging at 120w or faster
Xiaomi needs to work on the software as well instead of just churning out millions of phones a week
This phone is a worse user experience than my Huawei mate 20 pro in some areas and that just shouldn't happen at this price range
In my little opinion, Xiaomi does not have the capacity and expertise to deliver flagship experience. They are better known for cheaper mid rangers. Look at MIUI; it is the same experience from under a 200 phone to the ones above 1000. Even ads are present in their flagships which I was unable to comprehend because they charge premium price for their flagships and the ads did not need to be on them as they did not need to generate additional revenue at least from the flagships. I know I could block ads but that is not the point. The point is Xiaomi mindset to not differentiate flagships from mid rangers from software point of view.
Before an existing flagship is optimized, Xiaomi shoot us with another flagship. This circle continues and the flagships are sort of demeaned/insulted lol.
hellodrsoul said:
In my little opinion, Xiaomi does not have the capacity and expertise to deliver flagship experience. They are better known for cheaper mid rangers. Look at MIUI; it is the same experience from under a 200 phone to the ones above 1000. Even ads are present in their flagships which I was unable to comprehend because they charge premium price for their flagships and the ads did not need to be on them as they did not need to generate additional revenue at least from the flagships. I know I could block ads but that is not the point. The point is Xiaomi mindset to not differentiate flagships from mid rangers from software point of view.
Before an existing flagship is optimized, Xiaomi shoot us with another flagship. This circle continues and the flagships are sort of demeaned/insulted lol.
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I don't get any ads, but I do agree, the software must improve the fact that optimization takes time is sad and annoying, to think that the hardware is really good but the software is limiting it... Which is a shame
hellodrsoul said:
Finally, after a long battle with Mi 11 ultra and MIUI bugs for many past months, I jumped the ship from Android back to iOS and got myself a shiny new iPhone 13 pro max. I lost some 500 hundred USD because of my misadventure. In the interim, I used S21 ultra for 1 month but did not find it amusing either.
Reasons for switching from Mi11 ultra were;
1. Forced to use bug-loaded beta software on my only device because the stable versions were lacking in either features or security.
2. The back screen was a failed experiment for me. Did not find it useful as I was never a selfy-taking guy in the first place as I don't like seeing my own depression a lot.
3. Although iOS is not that open to use, it still has got many features to keep me hanging around. I would miss sideloading apps with that ease....
Sorry for hurting anyone's sentiments here. I do not intend or wish to ask anyone for switching to iOS. I am just trying to inform a googler a little bit...
I am very much thankful for the support I got from this community. Stay blessed.
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Don't let the door hit ya on the way out. See ya!
If you want a flagship that can compete with Apple and exceed them, Samsung.
Unfortunately Samsung runs hot and cold, so you got to grab the hot ones like the Note 10+.
The last year for both Samsung and the Adroid OS has been wretched. Samsung sunk a lot of money and effort into the Fold series and their other flagship lines suffered heavily as a result... and Samsung got chump change for this epic blunder.
Android forgot its users buy Androids because they don't like iPhones... idiots.
Both these corporations need to learn the definition of insanity; making the same mistake and expecting a different result.
iPhone is no gem and are behaving more like their CCP partners as time passes. Their invasive scan for child porn almost was fielded a few months ago. They will try to do it or something worse in due time, the writings on the wall. They were testing the waters without a second thought to your privacy or the performance hit you would suffer because of it.
iPhone charges more for memory (and memory is not expandable), accessories and service. For what? They been using the cheapest labor force they can find for years.
iPhones lack the free Galaxy Store customization found in Samsung's. You decide what your Samsung will look and act like to a very large extent. iPhones are stiff.
Apple charge fee for providing unfragmented, cleaner OS, and super optimized third party apps for each and every iPhone. A15 bionic is superfast, more efficient, and more intelligent than snapdragon 888 (Exynos does not count!). I agree iPhones are stiff and there is room for improvement in iOS if you compare it to Android. You obviously would need to forego some features and open to enjoy some other set of features when you switch the OS.
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Apple charge fee for providing unfragmented, cleaner OS, and super optimized third party apps for each and every iPhone. A15 bionic is superfast, more efficient, and more intelligent than snapdragon 888 (Exynos does not count!). I agree iPhones are stiff and there is room for improvement in iOS if you compare it to Android. You obviously would need to forego some features and open to enjoy some other set of features when you switch the OS.
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The Android platform allows the manufacturer as well as the user to largely load the device as they see fit. A large portion of the burden of optimization falls on the user. Be it something the manufacturer overlooked or more commonly misconfigured settings and/or 3rd party apps. It's simply impossible to test all the variables with so many variants and 3rd party apps.
As the end user it becomes your task to do what it takes to debug -your- own unique platform.
I have a few rules I learned to follow with Adroids and have my own favorite flavor. I've learned over time what works best* and almost never update. I run stock Samsung's with a Package Disabler and VPN firewall.
Result is a fast, stable platform that fulfills it's mission. My oldest N10+ is running on 9, it's current load is 21 months old, still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. My next upgrade will be going from a 512gb to a 1tb V30 SD card.
All my computers are dual drive including my smartphones. 512gb doesn't cut it nor does having the critical data folders on the same drive as the OS. All my crash and burns be it PC or smartphones never took out the data drive(s).
Regardless I redundantly stagger backup my data drives. In the end the only thing that is not replaceable is critical data. This multilayered approach is the method I use to physically firewall that data.
Ideally I want two 1tb SD card slots on the smartphone
*customized to my own unique requirements but not done overnight. A sometimes steep learning curve, but ultimately with less limitations.
May I ask whether security, evolving and improving privacy, latest features, improved battery life and individual app optimizations do not matter on your end? If so, the setup you just described is optimus prime!
For me, these things come first before anything so that I do not worry about grey internet habits .
Customization on iOS is indeed limited. But with iOS 15, many things have improved. Homescreen can be customized to a great extent. Such as changing icons, hiding labels etc. can be done via the shortcut app. While on the other hand, the mess created by gesture based navigation on third party launchers on Android have effectively rendered these launchers redundant. Customization on iOS are steadily increasing while on Android, they are decreasing according to my understanding.
Optimization of third party apps for iOS is the most underrated feature of iOS. I am not much into playing games. But I do play chess and angry birds. These two are way better on iOS than on Android. Especially the chess.com app is dope. WhatsApp on iOS is also better than on Android. Ironically, even chrome on iOS (webkit based) is cleaner and more power efficient than chrome on Android (Blink based).
Again, iOS fits my use case scenario better. This may not apply to others. I get this
Security has never been an issue since I been running on Android 9. I has one maliciously scripted jpeg that damaged some files in the download folder; I deleted jpeg and repaired or deleted the damaged files. Gone.
Had one trojan preloader that squeaked by the Samsung browser but deleted it before it was able to get it's payload, DOA. Both were almost 2 years ago. I now either back out of back websites or very rarely if really bad close the browser and clear the cache. The Brave browser is pretty much bullet proof. Karma Firewall lets me know if anything is running in the background as well.
The scoped storage in Android 11 and 12 is unwanted and unwelcome. It's sucks cpu cycles and screws up trusted apps. Many apps are firewall blocked by me anyway if they don't need internet access.
It took a fair amount of time to optimize the N10+ over many months. My SOT ranges from 7-12%@hour, tap on AOD with cell serveice active runs at >.5%@hr (typical charging/discharging pattern show below). The settings on the new N10+ Android 10 variant are almost identical and it gets maybe slightly better battery life. The Android 10 variant also retains the physical navigation buttons option as show below, which I prefer. Not sure which variant I like more but the Android 9 one is easier to troubleshoot.
Stock One UI launcher, Galaxy Good Lock modules, and DIGI clock. Hidden short cut switches everywhere, 4 in the clock widget it's self. Many more on the side panels including gesture navigation via One Handed Operation plus.
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hellodrsoul said:
Finally, after a long battle with Mi 11 ultra and MIUI bugs for many past months, I jumped the ship from Android back to iOS and got myself a shiny new iPhone 13 pro max. I lost some 500 hundred USD because of my misadventure. In the interim, I used S21 ultra for 1 month but did not find it amusing either.
Reasons for switching from Mi11 ultra were;
1. Forced to use bug-loaded beta software on my only device because the stable versions were lacking in either features or security.
2. The back screen was a failed experiment for me. Did not find it useful as I was never a selfy-taking guy in the first place as I don't like seeing my own depression a lot.
3. Although iOS is not that open to use, it still has got many features to keep me hanging around. I would miss sideloading apps with that ease....
Sorry for hurting anyone's sentiments here. I do not intend or wish to ask anyone for switching to iOS. I am just trying to inform a googler a little bit...
I am very much thankful for the support I got from this community. Stay blessed.
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I respect your choice 100%, will just tell you i have the MI 11 Ultra eu stable rom 256gb Chinese version phone and never have any isues at all.
Im on the 12.5.20 rom to BUT, because i have to use Fastboot for the new miui13 instead of TWRP which i feel secure on, i must make a change to, just to another Android brand, i had the S21 to when it was released, we never liked each other... And its a big shame because i love this mi 11 ultra.
But im not a ROM or even a beta guy i must admit, now i tried a phone with eu rom, but never again.
I still hope to be safed by a new version TWRP, before i buy the next Android, so i atleast can have some different launchers.
Good luck out there