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hey guys my wife has one of these phones but the camera pictures are no where near as good as the ones in thread on here, is there anything i can do to improve the quality of them?
Is your wife's phone with the bootloader locked or unlocked? In UBL the camera quality is a little worse I think.
Hello,
I read through the boards but it's a bit difficult to get a measure. If I want an AOSP/cm like experience, is z3 compact still ok to buy (used)? Or should I be looking to move onto newer pastures like the z5 compact? sorry for the sony noob question.
Z5c = Z3c + better camera + fingerprint scanner.
Z3c is a more than capable device. Practically a flagship with a small screen. I run the latest slimm rom which is 6.0.1 and I experience no slowdowns whatsoever.
Camera is not so good in lowlight and front camera is also bad. At the moment I am also looking to upgrade to a x5 compact. Though, I find it hard to justify all the hassle of selling and buying me phone since the gain is limited.
Durability of the flaps is also an issue. And the back is slippery. For this reason I invested in New flaps, back cover sticker, tempered glass protection and magnetic usb chargers. In all probably an investment of 50 bucks at least. Half of which z5 doesn't need.
Pinktank said:
Hello,
I read through the boards but it's a bit difficult to get a measure. If I want an AOSP/cm like experience, is z3 compact still ok to buy (used)? Or should I be looking to move onto newer pastures like the z5 compact? sorry for the sony noob question.
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The Z3c and Z5c are very similar, with a fingerprint sensor and camera sensor being the main difference. If you are going to be going to an AOSP or CM build then you won't be using the camera much as it'll be broken by unlocking the bootloader.
There is more development on the Z3c, it's been out longer and therefore has more custom roms and mods that the Z5. If customising is your bag, then I'd say the Z3c is what you want.
But be aware of the things that happen once you unlock you bootloader and make sure you get a backup of your TA partition, there is a great guide here..
Edit: +1 on the magnetic charger, it will save the life of the flaps
Hey y'all thanks for the quick notes. Z5 compact doesn't have a groundbreaking camera either so it's ok on that department. Regarding AOSP/CM, the sony open/AOSP/concept development is basically AOSP + sony DRM camera right? If I use that, does that allow me to use the camera well? I just like it plainjanejoe
Pinktank said:
Hey y'all thanks for the quick notes. Z5 compact doesn't have a groundbreaking camera either so it's ok on that department. Regarding AOSP/CM, the sony open/AOSP/concept development is basically AOSP + sony DRM camera right? If I use that, does that allow me to use the camera well? I just like it plainjanejoe
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I don't know where you got the info on AOSP working with DRM, but the thread I looked at is for unlocked bootloaders only (and seems to have ground to a halt). Same with any CM build. I don't think there's 6 build for AOSP, sorry. The Sony Concept and Beta builds you refer to also require unlocked bootloader if you want to use root. It would be easier to find a pre-rooted 6 rom and use that. The guide mentioned above goes into detail about how to get there.
6 hasn't been out for the z3c very long, so consequently it's still full of bugs and problems. There is a patch arriving soon that hopefully will fix MM stock and Wajk is committed developer who has got a debloated 6 build working and will apply the upcoming patches as soon as they arrive.
I must have confused it with another sony maybe. So when you say the camera is broken, do you mean it doesn't work period
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I must have confused it with another sony maybe. So when you say the camera is broken, do you mean it doesn't work period
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No it works, but low level noise is increased. I don't think you get 20Mp output either. Basically all the proprietary software that Sony incorporates into cleaning up the picture and some of the image stabilisation is disabled.
Apparently Google camera does a good job with the Sony lens as a replacement to the stock app.
Edit: if CM/AOSP is your requirement, then I don't think you're going to have much joy with Sony. Their system of locking DRM keys on an encrypted partition is going to get in the way of any serious CM development.
Personally I think the camera is one of the phones stronger features (Sony make the sensors for apple/samsung phones), so to break it in order to install a different looking rom on it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
If you don't like the Sony launcher, install another one.
Z5 Compact runs on better hardware, slightly better camera than Z3C but the Z3C has better xda support than the Z5C has, either way both devices are futureproof in a sense 2-3 Years from now their hardware would still be decent. There is also AOSP/CM for both devices, but take note unlocking the bootloader removes the camera features ( post image processing and x-reality ) Sony has put into the phone
Hello,
Is there some way for better picture qualitty took by z3compact?
I tried many photo apps (mx camera, open camera, a better camera, google camera, camera fv5) but photoes sucks still.
I have got fw.291 with locked bootloader
thank you
you can flash camera mod (cyberian for example) or google about photography on internet, z3c photos are far from suck
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you can flash camera mod (cyberian for example) or google about photography on internet, z3c photos are far from suck
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..but they're also not great, at least compared to Samsungs and (obviously) iPhones.
schnidex said:
..but they're also not great, at least compared to Samsungs and (obviously) iPhones.
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then buy samsung or iphone, there's no other way dude, it is like it is, you can't just replace camera on phone, at least not yet, let us pray for modular phones
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then buy samsung or iphone, there's no other way dude, it is like it is, you can't just replace camera on phone, at least not yet, let us pray for modular phones
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Aside from better software you mean? I refuse to believe that the physical cameras themselves in Sony phones aren't capable of taking the same kind of pictures that Samsungs, Apples do etc.!
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Aside from better software you mean? I refuse to believe that the physical cameras themselves in Sony phones aren't capable of taking the same kind of pictures that Samsungs, Apples do etc.!
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It's probably possible, if you can reverse engineer all the firmware and camera related libs yourself.
@OP, I don't think there's a magical way to make the photo quality as good as any Samsung's or iPhone's photos.
pajos.gabros said:
Hello,
Is there some way for better picture qualitty took by z3compact?
I tried many photo apps (mx camera, open camera, a better camera, google camera, camera fv5) but photoes sucks still.
I have got fw.291 with locked bootloader
thank you
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As you have now undoubtedly discovered, the best way to get decent photos out of this device is to use the stock Sony software. You'll have to learn to play with manual mode because auto-mode on this devices consistently yields over-exposed, soft, and/or noisy images. But to be clear, it's not a bad camera, it just doesn't excel in the point and shoot category in the same way that nearly every other flagship does.
pajos.gabros said:
Hello,
Is there some way for better picture qualitty took by z3compact?
I tried many photo apps (mx camera, open camera, a better camera, google camera, camera fv5) but photoes sucks still.
I have got fw.291 with locked bootloader
thank you
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Camera sucks, even a mid range phone takes better pictures. The only advantage of this phone, its size, design and of course battery life.
Btw no nougat support, low custom rom activity, camera sucks, low performance according to price (laggy and freeze sometimes), low internal storage, non removable battery, headphone jack sucks i think all of z3 compact have this problem, some software problems such as wifi, gps etc.
I am not happy with this phone, i miss my note 4.
Barua said:
Camera sucks, even a mid range phone takes better pictures. The only advantage of this phone, its size, design and of course battery life.
Btw no nougat support, low custom rom activity, camera sucks, low performance according to price (laggy and freeze sometimes), low internal storage, non removable battery, headphone jack sucks i think all of z3 compact have this problem, some software problems such as wifi, gps etc.
I am not happy with this phone, i miss my note 4.
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Yes Sony has been screwing it up lately. I don’t know why are they launching so many different phone models when they are all basically the same since the first Xperia Z.
I think Sony should focus on only offering one device that excels in every aspect, otherwise I think they are going down.
david7380 said:
Yes Sony has been screwing it up lately. I don’t know why are they launching so many different phone models when they are all basically the same since the first Xperia Z.
I think Sony should focus on only offering one device that excels in every aspect, otherwise I think they are going down.
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Sony just produces bunch of similar mid range phones and sells them with high price. Samsung phones are crappy too, but at least deserve that money.
Hi all members,
i am considering to purchase Xiaomi A1, i hear that there is dual camera and optical 2x but i need the review from real people who own Xiaomi A1. Image is good or not (acceptable etc...)
another point about battery, is it enough for one day for daily use
Thank you all
For the battery part I can confirm it last 6-7 hours of screen on time with normal internet browsing, unsure about gaming or watching video.
vudungcom said:
Hi all members,
i am considering to purchase Xiaomi A1, i hear that there is dual camera and optical 2x but i need the review from real people who own Xiaomi A1. Image is good or not (acceptable etc...)
another point about battery, is it enough for one day for daily use
Thank you all
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go for it...
Image quality is Good in both natural as well as artificial lighting !!!
2X lossless zoom works fine also.
the battery life is good mate, i play modern strike online and guns of boom and it easily lasts a day.
the camera is ok but it will hopefully get better with some updates, the most annoying thing for me is no EIS and the 2x button actually just digitall zooms in to use the telefoto lens you need to go to manual mode and select it
vudungcom said:
Hi all members,
i am considering to purchase Xiaomi A1, i hear that there is dual camera and optical 2x but i need the review from real people who own Xiaomi A1. Image is good or not (acceptable etc...)
another point about battery, is it enough for one day for daily use
Thank you all
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I should say the phone is working good in all aspects but I'm completely disappointed with the dual camera, all the indoor shots are blurry (almost all) , to be honest, the selfie camera feels much better than the rear dual camera and the photos look okay in the outdoor. my brother has One Plus 2 (single camera 13MP), It's much better than this phone. I'm extremely surprised to see that many love Mi A1 camera but in reality, it looks very blurry. Initially, I thought It might be a hardware issue, but i don't think it's the hardware issue.
The reason for blurry photos might be because it doesn't have Optical image stabilization, so the output is blurry. Most of our photos will be indoor, so it should give decent output, but I'm disappointed with Mi A1 camera so far. Am i the only one here??? does anyone face this same issue??
raminjpr said:
I should say the phone is working good in all aspects but I'm completely disappointed with the dual camera, all the indoor shots are blurry (almost all) , to be honest, the selfie camera feels much better than the rear dual camera and the photos look okay in the outdoor. my brother has One Plus 2 (single camera 13MP), It's much better than this phone. I'm extremely surprised to see that many love Mi A1 camera but in reality, it looks very blurry. Initially, I thought It might be a hardware issue, but i don't think it's the hardware issue.
The reason for blurry photos might be because it doesn't have Optical image stabilization, so the output is blurry. Most of our photos will be indoor, so it should give decent output, but I'm disappointed with Mi A1 camera so far. Am i the only one here??? does anyone face this same issue??
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Thank you for your experience, waiting from other user.
I think that OIS is importance technology if we need high quality
raminjpr said:
I should say the phone is working good in all aspects but I'm completely disappointed with the dual camera, all the indoor shots are blurry (almost all) , to be honest, the selfie camera feels much better than the rear dual camera and the photos look okay in the outdoor. my brother has One Plus 2 (single camera 13MP), It's much better than this phone. I'm extremely surprised to see that many love Mi A1 camera but in reality, it looks very blurry. Initially, I thought It might be a hardware issue, but i don't think it's the hardware issue.
The reason for blurry photos might be because it doesn't have Optical image stabilization, so the output is blurry. Most of our photos will be indoor, so it should give decent output, but I'm disappointed with Mi A1 camera so far. Am i the only one here??? does anyone face this same issue??
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Once development started, once we get to port pixel camera with hdr+ that should take care of the problem.. my blurry shots from my redmi note 4x was resolved by the pixel's hdr+ and i'm possitive it's gonna do the same thing for this mi a1..
melmarPH said:
Once development started, once we get to port pixel camera with hdr+ that should take care of the problem.. my blurry shots from my redmi note 4x was resolved by the pixel's hdr+ and i'm possitive it's gonna do the same thing for this mi a1..
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Google camera doesn't improve much. i rooted it and enabled hal3 to check it. it's worthless. worse than redmi 3s.
kraatus90 said:
Google camera doesn't improve much. i rooted it and enabled hal3 to check it. it's worthless. worse than redmi 3s.
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It may work randomly on ramdam people.. ?
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It may work randomly on ramdam people.. ?
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Nope, results will only change if there's different sensor on different sets. but if there's no other sensor than OV12a10 , thn results won't be different. that sensor is just pure crap, hell even raw images can't give you better results on this sensor. i'm seriously disappointed by this.
i have a redmi 3s, when i saw about this phone , i was happy since it was supposed to come with imx386 sensor and stock android. i thought gcam with hdr+ will improve this phone even better than what it did with redmi 3s. but after trying it with gcam. oh man, never felt this much disappointed. it doesn't come with imx386 at all , and possibility of having imx386 on different set is 0. because firmware doesn't have libs for that sensor.
robgee789 said:
the battery life is good mate, i play modern strike online and guns of boom and it easily lasts a day.
the camera is ok but it will hopefully get better with some updates, the most annoying thing for me is no EIS and the 2x button actually just digitall zooms in to use the telefoto lens you need to go to manual mode and select it
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You are kind of wrong with the 2x digital zoom and telephoto lens, yes you can do it manually by selecting telephoto lens but for the automatic part I have tried, you need to have good lighting condition and than you press 2x on the screen it automatically switch to telephoto lens for optical zoom.
I have covered the telephoto lens and the camera goes black since I have covered it. For the low light condition I tried same thing by covering the telephoto lens and press on 2x and it still works because now this is digital zoom. I'm not sure if this suppose to be like this or a bug, sorry didn't do any research on that yet
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You are kind of wrong with the 2x digital zoom and telephoto lens, yes you can do it manually by selecting telephoto lens but for the automatic part I have tried, you need to have good lightning condition and than you press 2x on the screen it automatically switch to telephoto lens for optical zoom.
I have covered the telephoto lens and the camera goes black since I have covered it. For the low light condition I tried same thing by covering the telephoto lens and press on 2x and it still works because now this is digital zoom. I'm not sure if this suppose to be like this or a bug, sorry didn't do any research on that yet
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Ill check k that out mate I was playing around with it in my living room so I'll try it outside in good lighting [emoji1]
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I am using a non rooted nokia 7 plus. And in gcam, the resolution is restricted to 4 mp. Any way to resolve the issue?
What i think is this is related to the implementation of camera2api in the front camera or something from the system because i have tried with other apps and they register just 4mp and no 16mp...
and i thought nokia fooled us, bcz selfies from stock camera app doesn't look like of a 16mp sensor
only the Nokia Camera app reports the front facing camera as a 16Mpx
My guess is the sensor it's a 4Mpx and they just oversample merging multiple shots
This habit to declare the software resolution instead of the native sensor resolution is very common among the Chinese manufacturer
I think we just have to admit ourselves that this HMD is a much more Chinese company than the old Nokia was....
ice.man said:
only the Nokia Camera app reports the front facing camera as a 16Mpx
My guess is the sensor it's a 4Mpx and they just oversample merging multiple shots
This habit to declare the software resolution instead of the native sensor resolution is very common among the Chinese manufacturer
I think we just have to admit ourselves that this HMD is a much more Chinese company than the old Nokia was....
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its good that nokia only done cost cutting in front cam , cuz im not a selfie freak , and in good light its works just fine ?
Its not about if you use that lens or not. If they have put a 4MP lens then why are they lying to us. I did hardware tests from 5 sources, all of them show a 4MP lens.
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Its not about if you use that lens or not. If they have put a 4MP lens then why are they lying to us. I did hardware tests from 5 sources, all of them show a 4MP lens.
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It shows 16MP on my end, under the Hardware section of the Camera tab on the Device Info HW, with root for low-level access. However, under the Software section it shows 4MP like any other as you have mentioned, and perhaps that's telling something. ?
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Its not about if you use that lens or not. If they have put a 4MP lens then why are they lying to us. I did hardware tests from 5 sources, all of them show a 4MP lens.
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ye it is wrong , but it was just an opinion , although many other manufacturers do the same , in this case it was just that we are not expecting this from nokia , a 4mp lens and bootloader locked forever