Samsung Pay Behaviour on Transit - Samsung Galaxy Watch 3

Hello all,
Apologies for the noob questions, I've just come back to android after about 10 years on iOS. I've actually gone for a Note 20 Ultra + Samsung Galaxy Watch Active 2 but I couldn't find a forum for the active 2 and I want to know if this behaviour is any different on The Watch 3.
I have two issues with Samsung Pay on the Active 2, am I being an idiot or is this normal?
1. Transit cards don't work, my Samsung Pay card is set to be a Transit Card but when I got to the station (London, TFL) payment didn't automatically happen on the reader. Is the transit card function not supported on the watch or do I need to turn it on somewhere?
2. In comparison to the Apple Watch, Payment is pretty slow:
- Apple Watch, Double Click side button, card instantly shows and ready for payment
- Samsung Watch. Double Click Back Button > Put in Pin (if not already done today) > Wait a few seconds > Select Card to pay > Pay
Does anyone know if I can get it to default to a single card wihtout me having to select it? I only have one card setup in Samsung Pay anyway.
Thanks!

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Note 8 Android Pie Quirks

Ok.. so i got my pie update with One UI last night. COOL.. i love it.. laggy at first, after full reset, it works just fine, smooth and fast.. snappy. battery life is great.. However, after using it for awhile and after restoring backup, i have some quirks..
1. Samsung now do not allow SD Card to be used together with both sim cards.. previously i have been using dual sim and SD card via an adapter.. now it just says "SIM Card Tray Slot Problem. There seems to be something in your SIM Card tray slot that doesnt belong there. Check it and try again".
I saw somewhere in this forum, that there is a method that can fix this issue, but i require root access.. DAMN..
2. Call recorders is disabled for third party apps.
Is there a native call recorder in the note 8 android 9? like when i use note 2, i just need to tweak the CSC file and the native call recorder will come out. Is it still present?
If the native call recorder is still present, i am very willing to root my phone.
Samsung pay is just something that i would love to have, but not a must. Call recorder is important.
I travel often, and frequently receive instructions from bosses or customers on what they want, and it is often lengthy.. without a pen and paper, and phone stuck to my ear, i rely on call recorders to record what they want, and then when i am back in office or hotel room, or somewhere quiet, i can replay what they want and work on a proposal to them or quotation. This is important to me and the reason i forked out to buy pro version of the call recorder app i was using previously.
my question is, if some kind hearted person can assist me, is as follows:
1. Is android call recorder still present? will tweaking the CSC file or installing an xposed module bring it back? (thats how i did it on my very old note 2)
2. If i root my note 8, secure folders wont work. Samsung Pay wont work. will masking root allow samsung pay? if not, will i still be able to use samsung pay on my Samsung Gear Sport instead.. currently i use samsung pay mainly on my samsung gear sport anyway.
Yup call recording is still there. I've installed HadesRom and seems to enable it.
-Yes, if you root your phone you'll lose Samsung Pay and Secure Folder forever since it triggers Knox. I have no idea if you can still be able to use Pay with your smartwatch.
galaxynote2 said:
Yup call recording is still there. I've installed HadesRom and seems to enable it.
-Yes, if you root your phone you'll lose Samsung Pay and Secure Folder forever since it triggers Knox. I have no idea if you can still be able to use Pay with your smartwatch.
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Tqvm.. Much appreciated.
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Holy moly, I should have checked before updating. Where is the workaround to use both sims and the micro sd card?
Do I need to root now? Didn't have the need to do it until now
Dang!
sergioka said:
Holy moly, I should have checked before updating. Where is the workaround to use both sims and the micro sd card?
Do I need to root now? Didn't have the need to do it until now
Dang!
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Yeah, you would probably have to root your device and mod a file in order to get that feature back.
iceepyon said:
Yeah, you would probably have to root your device and mod a file in order to get that feature back.
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Thx for the info. Do you have a link to a tutorial? Haven't found it yet
thx in advance
iceepyon said:
Yeah, you would probably have to root your device and mod a file in order to get that feature back.
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Hi
Any chance to make this feature work without root??
I just lost my secure folders and spay because of this stupid feature.
Went to install custom rom to get the dual sim and sd card to work..
And got call recording back as well..
I installed dr ketans rom.
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vash_h said:
I just lost my secure folders and spay because of this stupid feature.
I installed dr ketans rom.
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You can use Solid Explorer to make encrypted folders (with fingerprint unlock if you want). You can even make the secure folders on your sdcard.
Is root now available for Pie? Last time I checked, if you have Snapdragon and upgraded to Pie you lost root since it's bootloader 5 and the highest bootloader that has root is 3. If you have an Exynos, then a Knox is tripped and you can never have Samsung pay again.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
You don't need to root your phone. Just change your region to THL or INS or XXV, it'll give you native call recording with SPay. I've changed my CSC from XSG/CAC/XSG to THL/CAC/XSG and call recorder is working great.
Change your CSC: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/pie-call-recording-wip-t3905737
Elsalawi said:
Hi
Any chance to make this feature work without root??
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I guess you could install another regions OS onto your device. Just make sure that the model numbers match.
Eudeferrer said:
Is root now available for Pie? Last time I checked, if you have Snapdragon and upgraded to Pie you lost root since it's bootloader 5 and the highest bootloader that has root is 3. If you have an Exynos, then a Knox is tripped and you can never have Samsung pay again.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
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Still not for Snapdragon, as far as I know, but it is for Exynos. I've seen some custom ROMs claiming to have Samsung Pay working, but I can't verify that, as I don't use or even care about Samsung Pay, despite it being used and supported in my country.
Hello Guys, I have Unlocked Tmobile Note 8 the N950U version. Anyone knows when the Pie Update comes up? Im hating Tmobile right now. My girl have an S8+ from Claro a International model and today update to Pie
iceepyon said:
I guess you could install another regions OS onto your device. Just make sure that the model numbers match.
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Can you explain more?
Currently I'm in Saudi Arabia and my device updated to Pie, which region have Pie version with 2 sim and SD card working together.
Thanks
Elsalawi said:
Can you explain more?
Currently I'm in Saudi Arabia and my device updated to Pie, which region have Pie version with 2 sim and SD card working together.
Thanks
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There isn't any pie firmware that 2 sims and sd card option will work. Apparently Samsung put in a check for that and disabled it.
You'll have to go back to oreo for now.
Or root your phone (Warning: this will remove Samsung pay, secure folder for good) and change out a service.jar file.
vash_h said:
Ok.. so i got my pie update with One UI last night. COOL.. i love it.. laggy at first, after full reset, it works just fine, smooth and fast.. snappy. battery life is great.. However, after using it for awhile and after restoring backup, i have some quirks..
1. Samsung now do not allow SD Card to be used together with both sim cards.. previously i have been using dual sim and SD card via an adapter.. now it just says "SIM Card Tray Slot Problem. There seems to be something in your SIM Card tray slot that doesnt belong there. Check it and try again".
I saw somewhere in this forum, that there is a method that can fix this issue, but i require root access.. DAMN..
2. Call recorders is disabled for third party apps.
Is there a native call recorder in the note 8 android 9? like when i use note 2, i just need to tweak the CSC file and the native call recorder will come out. Is it still present?
If the native call recorder is still present, i am very willing to root my phone.
Samsung pay is just something that i would love to have, but not a must. Call recorder is important.
I travel often, and frequently receive instructions from bosses or customers on what they want, and it is often lengthy.. without a pen and paper, and phone stuck to my ear, i rely on call recorders to record what they want, and then when i am back in office or hotel room, or somewhere quiet, i can replay what they want and work on a proposal to them or quotation. This is important to me and the reason i forked out to buy pro version of the call recorder app i was using previously.
my question is, if some kind hearted person can assist me, is as follows:
1. Is android call recorder still present? will tweaking the CSC file or installing an xposed module bring it back? (thats how i did it on my very old note 2)
2. If i root my note 8, secure folders wont work. Samsung Pay wont work. will masking root allow samsung pay? if not, will i still be able to use samsung pay on my Samsung Gear Sport instead.. currently i use samsung pay mainly on my samsung gear sport anyway.
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Android pie for note 8 comes with its own call recorder. To activate it go to call settings. That option is right in front if you.
The SD card problem is still there I think. I have the same problem.
SujeewaSampath said:
Android pie for note 8 comes with its own call recorder. To activate it go to call settings. That option is right in front if you.
The SD card problem is still there I think. I have the same problem.
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Here we go again. It's not there. It's controlled by csc. Mine is in xme, which doesn't allow call recording.
Anyhow I flashed custom Rom, got native call recording to work (still don't appear in the settings though) and samsung pay to work via my gear samsung gear sport.
And my Dual SIM with sdcard works now too.
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Call recording is present, but you will loose hybrid sim as Samsung has blocked it in PIE Update.
After updating to PIE, i'm note able to use hybrid sim slot on my Galaxy Note 8. When i insert hybrid in Galaxy note 8 Pie, POPUP appears says sim card tray slot problem, but phone has read both behind and memory card. Pop does not get disable and stuck on the screen. Forcefully i need to remove the slot and reverse back to 1 sim and MC
dineshdotcom2000 said:
Call recording is present, but you will loose hybrid sim as Samsung has blocked it in PIE Update.
After updating to PIE, i'm note able to use hybrid sim slot on my Galaxy Note 8. When i insert hybrid in Galaxy note 8 Pie, POPUP appears says sim card tray slot problem, but phone has read both behind and memory card. Pop does not get disable and stuck on the screen. Forcefully i need to remove the slot and reverse back to 1 sim and MC
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Call recording is locked by csc. Been this way since samsung note2 or even before. You may have it due to your csc does not lock it.
As for dual sim and sdcard, yeah that's true. You'll need to root your phone or install a custom rom.
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Dual SIM plus microsd (2nd SIM problem after Pie possibly)

I've been using the thin cable adaptor to run both SIM cards and a microsd all at he same time . Someone recently said they are trying to call my second sim number and he gets a phone switched off message from operator...
I thought the cable because dislodged but no matter what I try I can't get the second sim to enable itself , I even swapped the film cable adaptor with a new one..same issue ..
I recently phrases to pie and I'm loving it but I have feeling a sneaky patch blocked this hack ..which ..if true...is monkeytitstupid !
Any thoughts ?
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shadieideh said:
I've been using the thin cable adaptor to run both SIM cards and a microsd all at he same time . Someone recently said they are trying to call my second sim number and he gets a phone switched off message from operator...
I thought the cable because dislodged but no matter what I try I can't get the second sim to enable itself , I even swapped the film cable adaptor with a new one..same issue ..
I recently phrases to pie and I'm loving it but I have feeling a sneaky patch blocked this hack ..which ..if true...is monkeytitstupid !
Any thoughts ?
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Samsung did patch that on pie.
Only two ways that I read.
1. Go back to oreo
Or
2. Root phone (something like to replace service.jar file or using magisk, so search xda)
I think is something more serious. I'm using an adapter as well. Upon start up I get a notification that something is in simcard tray. And that notification doesn't go away and it doesn't let me use the phone at all until I removed the adapter.
If you are not seeing that message, the adapter probably isn't working.
I resorted to custom rom samsung pie where the developer removed that restriction.as a result my spay is dead, my secure folders is dead.
For me it's worth losing these function to gain access to dual sim and sdcard. I do miss secure folders though.. There is third party apps that can do the trick but not as good as secure folders.
So weigh the importance of knox related items to dual sim and sdcard. I did and decided my need for dualsim and sdcard is more than secure folders.
Btw, the developer patched shealth so shealth still works on mine. I'm using dr ketans rom.
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Hi, I have the same problem. But this time I never rooted my phone as NFC payment apps detect it and I would not be able to use that function anymore.
For the moment I have just put some clear tape on the second SIM and can use my phone, access my memory and hope that a proper solution will be found soon.
For the moment I use my second(same as first one which is taped now) SIM. And use my pocket phone. 5x5x1cm for 25€.
And will wait for some new clever workaround or my ordered NFC payment ring and root.
By the way, the chip of my sim was glued on the back of the sd card. So I am sure it has nothing to do with the adapter.
After updating to PIE, i'm note able to use hybrid sim slot on my Galaxy Note 8. When i insert hybrid in Galaxy note 8 Pie, POPUP appears says sim card tray slot problem, but phone has read both behind and memory card. Pop does not get disable and stuck on the screen. Forcefully i need to remove the slot and reverse back to 1 sim and MC

Samsung Pay behaviour change?

Did they do something in the loyalty card feature of Samsung Pay for the S10?
My loyalty cards are no longer being read at devices like they did on my Note 8. I seem to remember they had some pulsing type technology that made them readable.
Has this been removed or is there a setting somewhere to enable it? Was this dependent on the notification LED?
ozgadgetguy said:
Did they do something in the loyalty card feature of Samsung Pay for the S10?
My loyalty cards are no longer being read at devices like they did on my Note 8. I seem to remember they had some pulsing type technology that made them readable.
Has this been removed or is there a setting somewhere to enable it? Was this dependent on the notification LED?
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I think you're talking about MST that Samsung pay uses. It is still available on the S10 line of phones. Now for you, I'm not sure about the loyalty cards, I don't have any myself to try out or add.

Transferring my old phone to Pixel 5 with esim?

I got my Pixel 5, but I don't have esim yet. And I do not want to use physical sim-card anymore. My old phone is Google Pixel 2XL.
I have been thinking how to transfer my old phone to my Pixel 5.
Here is what I thought
1. Make sure old phone is backup (via system settings, backup)
2. Turn off old phone, and take out nano sim card
3. Insert the nano sim card on the Pixel 5 (for temporary while waiting esim)
4. Turn on Pixel 5 and connect to Wifi
5. Restore from the account I use to backup on my old phone
6. Continue setup
I think that would transfer my old phone to Pixel 5.
Once I received my esim, how do I change my nano sim card to esim?
- Turn off Pixel 5, take out nano sim card
- Turn on Pixel 5, configure esim (settings, mobile network, etc.)
Would that work?
And about Google account backup restore, will that also restore all my phone call history? SMS? MMS?
Thanks.
you'll have to contact your provider to arrange them to transfer you from physical sim to esim, generally done with a QR code and pin (at least that's how we do it in Australia).
I done mine through Vodafone Account online, I selected replace sim > esim > they sent an sms to confirm it was me > they then sent a pin by sms > then I got an email with QR code.
After that I went into Settings > Network and Internet > hit the + next to Mobile Network and selected Download a SIM > scanned the QR code and entered the pin, then a few seconds later it was setup and working great. Took out my physical sim and binned it as its now useless.
gogol said:
I got my Pixel 5, but I don't have esim yet. And I do not want to use physical sim-card anymore. My old phone is Google Pixel 2XL.
I have been thinking how to transfer my old phone to my Pixel 5.
Here is what I thought
1. Make sure old phone is backup (via system settings, backup)
2. Turn off old phone, and take out nano sim card
3. Insert the nano sim card on the Pixel 5 (for temporary while waiting esim)
4. Turn on Pixel 5 and connect to Wifi
5. Restore from the account I use to backup on my old phone
6. Continue setup
I think that would transfer my old phone to Pixel 5.
Once I received my esim, how do I change my nano sim card to esim?
- Turn off Pixel 5, take out nano sim card
- Turn on Pixel 5, configure esim (settings, mobile network, etc.)
Would that work?
And about Google account backup restore, will that also restore all my phone call history? SMS? MMS?
Thanks.
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I did pretty much the same except with a work sim (o2). SAcanned the QR code and notified my work phone people that i wanted it transferring, was on the esim within an hour.
Have my personal number as the physical sim in the phone too. love having not to carry two phones around anymore
Thanks all! Yes, I called my provider and they sent me the esim package with activation code via post, not yet received. But I want to setup my phone now
I have never done this before, coming from Pixel 2XL.
Some companies may charge you for an eSIM, this varies among different countries and different companies. The QR code is for one time use, so if you change your phone, or something happens that you are forced to factory reset your phone, you will need to ask them to send you another one. The second eSIM may carry a cost to you even if the first one is free, and then there is the trouble of not having a SIM while you are waiting for the replacement. I would rather use a physical SIM for the primary carrier that I use in my own country, and use the eSIM for traveling.
(There's an option to keep the eSIM when you factory reset, but who knows what may happen)
In some advanced countries you will easily get the eSIM for free and you can get the eSIM QR from your home probably in a couple of minutes via email or some portal.
In more precarious or corrupt places you will have (like me in Spain with Movistar carrier) to pay 14.90€ to get a piece of cardboard with the disposable QR code (and you need to go to a store to get it) and spend at least 20 minutes to do the entire process until you finally activated the eSIM in the new Pixel
I just did this today. Second time i did this process.
I do this because I like to have work SIM + personal eSIM in one device.
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I'm still waiting for Three (UK) to fully roll out their eSIM program. At the moment you can only get them from select stores but they're all Northern stores that I can't physically get to.
FYI, your Pixel 5 will only work in 4G mode when using 2 SIM cards.
Is there any advantage to an esim apart from not having to have a physical card in the phone?
Tcukcufc said:
Is there any advantage to an esim apart from not having to have a physical card in the phone?
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Only if you have two providers. Some don't have eSim technology and you are stuck with a physical sim. And if your second provider is the same you are out of luck. Other than that I don't think there is much difference.

Question Watch not activating data plan

Hi. I've just received a galaxy watch 5. It's connecting via Bluetooth to my phone (Vivo X80 Pro) but when I try to set up the mobile connectivity it's telling me "EE doesn't offer mobile plans for your watch"
Obviously it does as I bought it from EE with a mobile plan.
Does anybody know why it won't connect?
simon211175 said:
Hi. I've just received a galaxy watch 5. It's connecting via Bluetooth to my phone (Vivo X80 Pro) but when I try to set up the mobile connectivity it's telling me "EE doesn't offer mobile plans for your watch"
Obviously it does as I bought it from EE with a mobile plan.
Does anybody know why it won't connect?
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Contact your mobile carrier and let them know. They need to enter your watch's IMEI # to their system.
RexEscape said:
Contact your mobile carrier and let them know. They need to enter your watch's IMEI # to their system.
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Did that. They said it won't work without a Samsung phone (I don't believe that) and my only options were to a) buy a Samsung phone or b) pay £20 a month for a watch that I can only connect via Bluetooth.
I told them they can have the watch back.
I had a GW4 lte on s standalone plan from Verizon. I bought a GW5 pro lte to replace the GW4. Verizon was unable to connect my GW5 to the same line I had or even a new line. 7 hours on the phone with numerous reps and 3 tier two techs produced nothing. The last tier two tech I spoke to said the watch was faulty and I should return it to Samsung. I was livid. I got online, went to Mint mobile ran my z fold 3 IMEI to generate the qr code and connected my GW5 with that qr code. 10 minutes and it was done. It's a standalone plan $15 per month, I know there are cheaper plans but I don't care. My watch activated and works flawlessly.
I got it working after what must be hours of work.
I borrowed a Samsung A41 from a friend and connected the watch to that to activate the eSIM plan with EE.
I reset the watch to pair again with my Vivo phone. The phone wouldn't see the watch to pair. Brilliant.
I dug out my old phone (Realme 8 Pro), set it up and tested to see if that would pair with the watch; it worked fine.
So my initial issue of my Vivo phone pairing with the phone but not allowing the eSIM activation has now progressed to me having what could be a fully working watch, but with a phone that can't see it.
I decided as a last shot, I would try some reverse psychology.
I connected the watch back to the Galaxy A41. All good so far.
With the watch working, I then connected the watch via the watch's Bluetooth menu to my Vivo phone. It paired successfully.
The Wear app on my Vivo then saw it, but couldn't set it up (assuming as it's already set up on the Galaxy).
I reset the watch again but left the Wear app on my Vivo with the watch visible in the "pick your device" screen.
It worked, including the mobile plan. All good. What a fecking nightmare.

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