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Tempered glass

Does anyone use a tempered glass? Because of the curved edges I suppose that a tempered glass will not cover the hole screen and might look ugly. I currently have a simple screen protector that looks fine, but I am thinking of buying a Nillkin tempered glass like e.g the one in the link http://m.ebay.com/itm/HOT-NILLKIN-9...en-For-HUAWEI-MATE-S-/262097328806?nav=SEARCH
In general I am satisfied with the quality of this brand. Any other suggestions?
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https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0199KN38M/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_gir7wbFZ9A00F

have you tried this one yourself? how does it fit? so far all the ones i have tried are too small i would like it to fit nearer the edges so it is not so obvious.
has anyone been able to find one that fits very close to the edges.

There's now some companies making Tempered Glass specifically for curved edges like iPhone 6/s, Galaxy etc etc.
The trick is apply silicone on the edges of the tempered Glass.
But i haven´t found for Mate S yet...

has anyone found a tempered glass that fits correctly and does not leave too much of a gap at the edges and most of all reduces fingerprints on this thing?

My best fitment guess would be nillkin tempered h+pro. I just ordered it to my phone its ultra thin and it really protects screen from shattering if you drop (hand to floor). I have owned that protector on my Nexus5, G3 and G4 and i really love it.

dekr94 said:
My best fitment guess would be nillkin tempered h+pro. I just ordered it to my phone its ultra thin and it really protects screen from shattering if you drop (hand to floor). I have owned that protector on my Nexus5, G3 and G4 and i really love it.
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Replying to my own post nillkin protectors leave huge gap betweeen edges and protector dont buy if you want sleek look!!

The note 4 glass fits pretty good
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looking about best cover and glass screen protector

hello,
i will buy soon Xiaomi note 4x (32gb)
and i looking about good cover (be storng and durable, something like otterbox for lg or beter)
and good glass screen protector.
Budget: until 35$ for screen and until 35$ for cover.
pefer those who have registered mail in shipping.
thanks

tsahitsahi said:
hello,
i will buy soon Xiaomi note 4x (32gb)
and i looking about good cover (be storng and durable, something like otterbox for lg or beter)
and good glass screen protector.
Budget: until 35$ for screen and until 35$ for cover.
pefer those who have registered mail in shipping.
thanks
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I've not found a "perfect" screen cover yet for the phone. I like the 2.5d screen but it makes finding a "perfect" tempered glass solution a problem. I have a full screen protector one on now and it's okay. I haven't found one of those that have adhesive on the entire back panel of the glass. The adhesive is only around the edges on the painted surfaces.
I have another one I haven't tried yet. It looks like it has adhesive on the entire back surface and the outer edges are made of carbon fiber (supposed to be anyway) The outer edges are at least a soft material that supposed to stick to the entire edge and curve around so that it fits a 2.5d screen better. The problem with the ones I bought is that you can't see the backlight from the buttons on the bottom of the phone. Not a deal breaker but a flaw in the design.
Do some searches on aliexpress or someplace and you'll see. Search for redmi note 4x carbon fiber to see the second one I mentioned and redmi note 4x tempered glass for the full screen ones I also mentioned. There are clear non full screen ones that don't go to the edges of the glass. I haven't purchased one of those and probably won't.

It's really hard to find something decent. I personally prefer the traditional tempered glass screen protectors, but I've tried three now and they all look terrible, huge white marks on the sides even though the tempered glass doesn't cover the full screen. The full coverage one lost its adhesive due to my case pushing up against it, and it looks awful with weird adhesive marks in the middle. Honestly I'm contemplating going back to a film screen protector because I just can't find a tempered glass screen protector that will work for me. Also worth noting that I have a friend with a White Redmi Note 4x and I was able to transplant my screen protector onto this device with zero issues, so it's as if the black variant has glass that is more curved than normal

stephendt0 said:
It's really hard to find something decent. I personally prefer the traditional tempered glass screen protectors, but I've tried three now and they all look terrible, huge white marks on the sides even though the tempered glass doesn't cover the full screen. The full coverage one lost its adhesive due to my case pushing up against it, and it looks awful with weird adhesive marks in the middle. Honestly I'm contemplating going back to a film screen protector because I just can't find a tempered glass screen protector that will work for me. Also worth noting that I have a friend with a White Redmi Note 4x and I was able to transplant my screen protector onto this device with zero issues, so it's as if the black variant has glass that is more curved than normal
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I applied my tempered glass with my case on the phone. It's one of the full screen protectors with the painted frame around the outside. I think they do that to hide the fact that the glass doesn't fit to the curve. It looks good but I know it's not a perfect fit.

Upon research there appears to be fluid you can apply to the edges to get a perfect seal to remove the halo effect... I will investigate further

With my new case I posted about the full screen tempered glass looks perfect except for the fact they don't put adhesive on the entire back panel. Just under the painted area.

prisoner1969 said:
With my new case I posted about the full screen tempered glass looks perfect except for the fact they don't put adhesive on the entire back panel. Just under the painted area.
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Yes... in my experience this doesn't last. I had two lift up and get dust underneath and then it was horrible after that. Also I got the weird rainbow effect in the middle of the glass and the keys at the bottom didn't line up exactly.

tsahitsahi said:
hello,
i will buy soon Xiaomi note 4x (32gb)
and i looking about good cover (be storng and durable, something like otterbox for lg or beter)
and good glass screen protector.
Budget: until 35$ for screen and until 35$ for cover.
pefer those who have registered mail in shipping.
thanks
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Buy from glazedinc.com
It's a perfect fit and it costs ₹400, they also provide cash on delivery in India.
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I stay in Hyderabad India and on the name of tempered glasses they are just selling cheap flimsy transparent fiber or thin glass kind of material which is easily broken they are not actually tempered though the cover has a picture of hammer but they are not tempered glass.

Atharkhan101 said:
I stay in Hyderabad India and on the name of tempered glasses they are just selling cheap flimsy transparent fiber or thin glass kind of material which is easily broken they are not actually tempered though the cover has a picture of hammer but they are not tempered glass.
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As no hard material can cover a curved glass manufacturers need to make a hybrid glass. What I have done is bought a edge to edge glass from glazedinc.com and a tpu case from local market, edge to edge glass protects my display from scratches without compromising the looks and tpu case protects my device from falls. It's the nearest to perfect solution one can do for the note 4
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pooniaprashant said:
As no hard material can cover a curved glass manufacturers need to make a hybrid glass. What I have done is bought a edge to edge glass from glazedinc.com and a tpu case from local market, edge to edge glass protects my display from scratches without compromising the looks and tpu case protects my device from falls. It's the nearest to perfect solution one can do for the note 4
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Good to hear I too bought the edge to edge tempered glass which is still flimsy but still can protect the screen without compromising the looks however I'm looking forward to purchase hard kickstand case which can protect the device when it falls. Kindly give me the link of that TPU case you bought and please tell me if it is hard enough to protect the phone. Thanks in advance.

Atharkhan101 said:
Good to hear I too bought the edge to edge tempered glass which is still flimsy but still can protect the screen without compromising the looks however I'm looking forward to purchase hard kickstand case which can protect the device when it falls. Kindly give me the link of that TPU case you bought and please tell me if it is hard enough to protect the phone. Thanks in advance.
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tpu case was bought from local market (for about ₹150), if you are asking for tempered glass then just goto glazedinc.com

Tempered Glass or Hydrogel screen protector

I've been thinking of getting something to protect my precious and the original plastic one has lots of scratches on it.
so Tempered glass or Hydrogel film?

I've been doing research on this question too. It's like a mixed reviews. But a commonly seen answer is that they regret getting the hydro gel version and stick to the conventional tempered glass as some buyers indicated after a few days, the edge came off peeling and trapping dust while some others has high static attracting dust and easily scratch.

I usually prefer Tempered glass.

Always glass, clarity and feel always superior to film.
A good brand would be Nillkin - I buy this off Ali express. The oleophobic coating is great and you can actually feel the smoothness difference vs a $2 cheapo glass protector.
http://s.aliexpress.com/rQje6z6R
I have bought it for multiple previous devices and am waiting for my Mate 10 glass delivery.
It is fragile though, have to be careful not to place it on the table face down with any sand or grit, it can scratch. Usually I have a case with a bit of a lip to protect it.
Obviously it can crack if you drop it also.
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Anyone found a tempered glass protector that actually does not lift on the sides? Such a pity if one uses a glass that doesn't cover the whole display.. =(

Changed mine over to 9h yesterday. Just feels so much better than the plastic film.

Cccmachins said:
Changed mine over to 9h yesterday. Just feels so much better than the plastic film.
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What brand did you get and does it cover the whole screen?

Ozero 2 pack from Amazon. Not a bad glass. No rainbow on the screen just a little thick. Like someone else said it makes you feel like your pressing into a hole with the thicker glass. They should taper the protector around the navigation button to make it feel better. Yeah covers all the screen. Except the bottom of the navigation button.

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Cccmachins said:
Ozero 2 pack from Amazon. Not a bad glass. No rainbow on the screen just a little thick. Like someone else said it makes you feel like your pressing into a hole with the thicker glass. They should taper the protector around the navigation button to make it feel better. Yeah covers all the screen. Except the bottom of the navigation button.
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Can you post some pictures of the screen protector installed? I'm looking to get a screen protector myself but they are a number of brands I dont know and no reviews for any of them yet.

Jevansent said:
Always glass, clarity and feel always superior to film.
A good brand would be Nillkin - I buy this off Ali express. The oleophobic coating is great and you can actually feel the smoothness difference vs a $2 cheapo glass protector.
http://s.aliexpress.com/rQje6z6R
I have bought it for multiple previous devices and am waiting for my Mate 10 glass delivery.
It is fragile though, have to be careful not to place it on the table face down with any sand or grit, it can scratch. Usually I have a case with a bit of a lip to protect it.
Obviously it can crack if you drop it also.
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Hi !
I agree with you. I've talked to the seller and the their Mate 10 Pro Amazing H+ should go on sale. I'm gonna get one.
My Mate 10 Pro hasn't arrived yet, I'm getting Moka brown color ^^ but for sure Nillkin is good
http://www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=&id=7328&page=1

Darktitor said:
Hi !
I agree with you. I've talked to the seller and the their Mate 10 Pro Amazing H+ should go on sale. I'm gonna get one.
My Mate 10 Pro hasn't arrived yet, I'm getting Moka brown color ^^ but for sure Nillkin is good
http://www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=&id=7328&page=1
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Already got mine more than a week ago. Bought off aliexpress.
Unfortunately this time the glass is ever so slightly less than the full width of the phone - my P9 Plus Nillkin glass was edge to edge of the screen. About 0.5mm less than each side of the screen. I suspect this is because the no side bezels makes it hard to extend the glass all the way to the sides otherwise it might be non compatible with cases.
Not too irritating but definitely noticeable. Small halo effect as usual.
But overall the smoothness and the oleophobic coating definitely trumps the factory plastic protector. Still worth the buy.
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jounin052 said:
Can you post some pictures of the screen protector installed? I'm looking to get a screen protector myself but they are a number of brands I dont know and no reviews for any of them yet.
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Today i tried KONIX glass protector, (i guess this is just a generic glass, packed into some brand - just like many of screen protector in the market)
Just like any other 2.5D glass protector, it wont be able to cover the screen edge
But it still fit quite well, and the touch response is unaffected, or even better than on plastic (included) one
Glass cut is nicely rounded without sharp edge though, so i think this one is well manufactured
Here's some pics

otonieru said:
Today i tried KONIX glass protector, (i guess this is just a generic glass, packed into some brand - just like many of screen protector in the market)
Just like any other 2.5D glass protector, it wont be able to cover the screen edge
But it still fit quite well, and the touch response is unaffected, or even better than on plastic (included) one
Glass cut is nicely rounded without sharp edge though, so i think this one is well manufactured
Here's some pics
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Thanks... Wanted to see the one that @Cccmachins has because I ended up ordering the same Ozero TP... Guess I'll have to wait till I get it to see and decide if that works or if I need to keep looking.

The ozero just has a black frame around it so it just hides the edges of the screen completely, so you are actually losing a tad bit of screen real estate. I also bought one on Amazon that does not have the frame like the ozero and the entire edge is lifted up all the way around my screen. I think I'd prefer the plastic ones and just replace them from time to time...

tuffluck said:
The ozero just has a black frame around it so it just hides the edges of the screen completely, so you are actually losing a tad bit of screen real estate. I also bought one on Amazon that does not have the frame like the ozero and the entire edge is lifted up all the way around my screen. I think I'd prefer the plastic ones and just replace them from time to time...
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That sucks... The tempered glass screen protector manufacturers seem to have a hard time making them fit perfectly on these curve edge phones... It's either to small or not sticking on the edges...

Jevansent said:
Already got mine more than a week ago. Bought off aliexpress.
Unfortunately this time the glass is ever so slightly less than the full width of the phone - my P9 Plus Nillkin glass was edge to edge of the screen. About 0.5mm less than each side of the screen. I suspect this is because the no side bezels makes it hard to extend the glass all the way to the sides otherwise it might be non compatible with cases.
Not too irritating but definitely noticeable. Small halo effect as usual.
But overall the smoothness and the oleophobic coating definitely trumps the factory plastic protector. Still worth the buy.
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Even the stock screen protector doesnt fully cover the edges. Is the nillkin tg the same or worse than the original SP in covering the side? Do you think the UAG plasma case is compatible with the nillkin tg?

i prefer this protector 9h tempered glass, it cover all the front, very clear also in sunlight, anti fingerprint. i buy it from local market, very satisfied

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scrumptyous said:
What brand did you get and does it cover the whole screen?
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Hello friend, as a seller, we have talked to countless manufacturers to find the perfect screen protectors for our clients. As now phones screen bigger and bigger, resolution values are higher also. It is so necessary to get a high quality screen protector to protect the high valued smart phones. And the meanwhile, the screen protector cannot affect the touch sensitivity of phone screen , cannot decrease the brightness of the phone screen. So really it is not an easy solution.
Anyhow, we used to struggle which one is better? Tempered glass or hydrogel screen protector? Tempered glass is more thickness to 0.33mm, while hydrogel usually under 0.2mm, tempered glass cannot be full screen protector, while hydrogel can be full screen protector. Which is such a pity tempered glass cannot be full screen. Still except this flaw, other aspects is much much better than hydrogel protector. So we stick to tempered glass screen protector for Huawei Mate 10.
Here is what we prepare for our clients.
Flos®Huawei Mate 10 Transparent Full Protection Tempered Glass Screen Protector HD Anti-Scratch-[2 Pcs]
And we offer express shipping to Europe/USA within 1 week at 2usd shipping fees.
Also we are on Amazon for Europe.

Flosmall.com said:
Hello friend, as a seller, we have talked to countless manufacturers to find the perfect screen protectors for our clients. As now phones screen..........
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You know,
Sometimes its hard to trust a manufacturer, who despite promise the fine quality of their product, yet still manage to slip a typo on their commercial material,
Your images misspelled "tempered" as "temepred" and it doesn't sound convincing at all for me :silly:

Best tempered glass screen protector for Xiaomi Redmi 4x

Hi!
I just wanted to know which is, in your opinion, the best tempered glass screen protector for this device. So far I've no luck, I bought a 2.5d one that has airbags on the borders.
Opinions?

jandraht said:
Hi!
I just wanted to know which is, in your opinion, the best tempered glass screen protector for this device. So far I've no luck, I bought a 2.5d one that has airbags on the borders.
Opinions?
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same problem here with Luanke glass (209626001) from g3arb3st, all around on 1-2cm it was like there was no glue at all, only the center part was sticking correctly.

http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qjEuBiE

adrenochrome25 said:
same problem here with Luanke glass (209626001) from g3arb3st, all around on 1-2cm it was like there was no glue at all, only the center part was sticking correctly.
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This is in fact not the problem with the tempered glass. It is due to the curved glass on redmi 4x which is called as 2.5D glass which will be slightly bent at the edges. When a traditional tempered glass is applied to the screen, as the glass is flat at the center, the tempered glass adheres perfectly, while the ends are bent but the tempered glass is not. This is the reason the tempered glass always leaves air gaps at the edges. I would prefer the old school model plastic screen protector that is available on mi.com for our beloved redmi 4x. Just give it a try and you won't even feel like you have a screen protector on the screen. The only intention in this screen protector is to protect the screen from scratches that are likely to appear due to object playing around in the pockets along with the phone. This screenguard will not protect the screen from drops. You will definitely need to rely on your luck about breaking the glass from waist height of an average height guy.

thanks for your reply
i know about the 2.5D (or rounded edges) of the Redmi4x, but in my case the glass manufacturer circumvented to this problem by making protective glasses slightly smaller than the phone glass like 3mm on each border, so beside the increased difficulty to position it, it should have skipped the edges radius. But even with the 3mm skip i still had non sticky parts. (sku 209626001 from gearbest)
Indeed plastic models should minimise this issue but they are so soft ! After one week in the pocket with scratching things like keys they look so bad that they are already good to be replaced. So except if some technological revolution happened for plastic screen protector since the Mi2/S time, i think i'll live without screen protection at all

yyyoel said:
http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qjEuBiE
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This one is excellent too Im still on my first after 5 monthsand still perfect, and its much cheaper
https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/0.html?orderId=87954696635076&productId=32832655061

MadMicro said:
This one is excellent too Im still on my first after 5 monthsand still perfect, and its much cheaper
https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/0.html?orderId=87954696635076&productId=32832655061
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Ok thanks

Im using one of that "hybrid" screen protectors, the center is made of tempered glass and the edges made of some durable material, one claims for carbon fibers, the other for Kevlar. sorry i do not have a link for what i bought, but it looks exactly like the one in that link : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-lot-For-Xiaomi-Redmi-4X-3D-Carbon-Fiber-Screen-Film-Anti-Scratch-Tempered-Glass-Screen/32821140687.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.29.uQibKQ&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_10345_10342_51102_10343_10340_10341_10609_10541_10084_10083_10307_10312_10313_10059_10314_10534_100031_10604_10103_10605_10594_10107_10142,searchweb201603_12,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=72b8e48c-88c1-4470-9f38-f193a555b5e0-4&algo_pvid=72b8e48c-88c1-4470-9f38-f193a555b5e0&rmStoreLevelAB=5
it comes with colored edges, gold, black and white so you can use black or gold on white phone and vice versa. because the edges made of flex material, it sits perfect on the screen and have a nice curve edges all round. my have 98% coverage of the original screen, there is a 0.2 mm of gap between the two. in use on my device for about two month's now, having two falls on asphalt from about 70 cm, right on the corner, nothing happens yet. no scratches yet, as i say, i don't have a link for what i bought, i remember it was an unknown Chinese brand. hope it helps.

Why are all of the links aliexpress? (i don't have a problem with it just i prefer ebay/amazon)

DeblaGaming said:
Why are all of the links aliexpress? (i don't have a problem with it just i prefer ebay/amazon)
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Isn't it the cheapest that way? Just thinking.
Also, about topic - what do You think about 3mk 3D flexible glass for RN4X? Is it worth it? I would love to get as much protection as possible since I basically drowned my previous phone (UMI C Note) in worktime when I was washing 1 cubic meter containers with the pressure cleaner. Phone was in my pocket all the time, but just small stream of water on fingerprint scanner (inb4 you are a dumbass) ruined everyting.

Nanoedge Full Cover Screen Protector for xiaomi redmi 4x Gold Protective Layer Clear Use Layer TPU Screen Protective Film
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Nan...260.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.6.nfIiZj

buczek0711 said:
Isn't it the cheapest that way? Just thinking.
Also, about topic - what do You think about 3mk 3D flexible glass for RN4X? Is it worth it? I would love to get as much protection as possible since I basically drowned my previous phone (UMI C Note) in worktime when I was washing 1 cubic meter containers with the pressure cleaner. Phone was in my pocket all the time, but just small stream of water on fingerprint scanner (inb4 you are a dumbass) ruined everyting.
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Hi buczek,
have you tried the mentioned above FlexibleGlass? What are your thoughts on it?

there are much different quality of tempered glass in the market. some of tempered glass screen protector is with poor adhesive glue, it's easy to come off. some tempered glass screen protector is easy to be broken. our company supply high quality tempered glass screen protector, it's with high adhesive A/B glue, up to 9H hardness tempered glass material, anti scratch and anti shatter, protect your screen effectively.
more info: weaccessory dot com
Shenzhen Western Electronic Co., ltd

Here in New Delhi I am able to get a variety of glass based screen protectors costing between ₹15-₹50 per piece. Yes they aren't as effective as those super costly ₹800 one 's but still are very good. It's just that they don't come in any fancy packaging and cleansing wipes

use nano glass,its good fit

Can anyone recommend a tempered glass that has not an insane amount of reflection effect? I bought one from a seller on Ali and it is just like a mirror, making it more annoying to use and harder to see in the sun. ali or ebay

tangoviking said:
Can anyone recommend a tempered glass that has not an insane amount of reflection effect? I bought one from a seller on Ali and it is just like a mirror, making it more annoying to use and harder to see in the sun. ali or ebay
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Seconded.
The same happened to me. Also it gets dirty very easily and make the screen significantly darker.

I use these. They fit perfectly.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2pc...tector-film-full-cover-black/32809037642.html

There's no quality screen protectors made from glass available for this model. I already spent like 50$ on them and none of them lasted long and all of them was defective in one or other way. The first one I bought (from Mocolo) with colored edges did come off on it's own after about a week of very light use. Do yourself a favor and listen to my advice... Buy some plastic screen film instead of this cheap crap and save yourself a lot of nerves and money.

Mi Note 3 Tempered Glass, Full Cover

I've ordered at about 5-6 Tempered Glass for our Mi Note 3, and it wasn't easy to find one which fitted our phone perfectly. If you'll order one, than search for 'full cover'
This one fitted our display perfectly and is rounded and cheap, too:
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/LITB...-Xiaomi-anmerkung3-Glas-Film/32846070628.html

Yep, finally gave up searching for a fully transparent one as none fits edge to edge, ended up buying the one you posted and somewhat satisfied because it covers edge to edge, albeit the precision is a bit questionable and the matte finish gives different impression of blue (it's more like purple). NVM, my back cover is protected with a transparent TPU case and I can still myself in the "mirror" which is very helpful for back camera selfie (I love to do that because pixel2mod front camera won't work in advanced features like bokeh).

I have a few ones`s: At the moment i use one 9H tempered, and with colour blue. Not the qualith of a Ultimate Shield or Nilkellin, but it works so far...
And covers all screen.

Im using this for my Blue model:
https://www.gearbest.com/screen-protectors/pp_1412259.html
Of course is not a Nilkellin or Ultimate Shield, but covers it all.

My tempered glass

Where did you buy it from?

Gogentle97 said:
My tempered glass
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Where did you buy it? What brand is the tempered glass?

John Wiliam said:
Where did you buy it? What brand is the tempered glass?
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Gogentle97 said:
I brought it in Taobao and I don't think it can spam oversea outside of China. It need special oil to fix 2.5d glass problem which is liquid but become solid when dry.
Link:
http://m.tb.cn/h.WvKQuxW
http://m.tb.cn/h.WvJERxN
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Since mi note3 has curved edges, I bought soft protectors form taobao. Glass protectors dont fit very well.

Ace case do a tempered glass one that fits the corners perfectly. The main issue with it is that only the top and bottom coloured sections have glue on. Hard to explain but the part coving the screen doesn't so the slight air gap does effect viewing quality after a month or two.
I just got a ace case invisible screen protector to replace the tempered glass one and it is excellent. Obviously it won't protect as well from a large fall but I think it should still do a good job.
It's a soft plastic screen protector that you apply wet to the phone and it drys out after a few hours. Perfect fit and the quality is excellent. Feels good under the fingers and is very resistant to smudges. I'm really impressed so far.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/382360628993