Samsung Pay in beta in DE - how to use with watch? - Samsung Galaxy Watch 3

Hi,
as Samsung is beta testing Samsung pay in Germany, one can have it there *today*:
https://www.samsung.com/de/support/mobile-devices/samsung-pay-faq/
However, after installing and setting everything up, there is still no Samsung Pay on the GW3. I have to say that my watch is an XSK model (eastern europe) and not a DBT (Germany).
Does anybody use the Samsung Pay Beta with a DBT watch and can tell, if it works there? To have it working now, changing CSC to OXA would possibly be the best route?
Best regards

If you can read German, you can try to look here:
https://allaboutsamsung.de/2020/09/samsung-pay-startet-offiziell-in-deutschland/
IMHO Wearable part, like GW3 work with Plugin crap... "APK B"... + TPK C
Phone have "APK A"...
To get both working... Phone AND Watch...
You need compatible A + B + C...
Seems Samsung only released Phone App... APK A.
Feel free to look if you manage to run the Phone part... without crying.
Best Regards

Thanks, @adfree .
I called the german Samsung Pay Support and asked specifically, if changing the CSC of the watch to OXA would help and if he knew, what I was talking about. He said that he indeed knew what it meant and that it would not work because the pay app on the phone would not be compatible. He was very nice and also competent.
He also told me, that they aim to make it possible in 2021.
I have to say that I am astonished (not in a good way). Everything is in place and tried and tested, Samsung Pay with the watches is years old. Why?

Well, at least it's a step in the right direction for Germany. Holland is still waiting. I now use SPay on my watch with the CSC set to Spain (PHE) in combination with a UK Curve card, but I would rather use it with everything set to Dutch (PHN) . Hopefully Holland is next.

Thanks, @congusto . What would be the best CSC to use? OXA? Or rather UK? Not even sure, if they are having SPay.

Any CSC that supports SPay will do. BTU (UK) will do fine. I chose Spain (PHE) as region because I have that choice when I reset my watch. UK is not available in the list I can choose from. Spain also supports O2 Measurement. I don't know if BTU supports it. The only backdraw of PHE can be that all SPay awards and messages are in Spanish.
OXA is actually a group of CSC's if I am correct, so I am not sure that you can choose OXA at all.

Thanks, guys. So I went through it and changed the CSC from XSK (I bought a watch for the eastern european market because it was cheaper) to XAR - Samsung pay was there, but the guy on the Samsung Pay DE hotline was (unfortunately ) right. I could not add the virtual card I got from Samsung Pay DE, as I do not have the data (validity, CSC). So I deciced that it is not worth all the hassle (try some CC which might work or not, Curve or N26 or whatever) and changed the CSC again, this time to DBT, where I live. That way, whenever this gets available here, I will just be able to use it. As (claimed) advantages they offer split pay and instant credit as features - maybe I am old fashioned, but I do not need that, as I do not buy things when I do not have the money. I would rather have them light up payments with the watch
So they set it up differently in DE - you will get a virtual CC from 'Solarisbank' (whoever that might be) and they will take the money directly from the bank account the user combined with it. This way they seem to be able to get around the banks. This is all done in the Samsung Pay DE setup - it is a one time hassle but it is really doable.
So, whoever wants to try that as well, maybe save yourself the hours of two combination FW flashes, two Stock FW Flashes and two updates.

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samsung pay in ireland solution

I live in Ireland where Samsung pay is not supported but in the UK it is, if i had phone + watch3 bought in the official Samsung UK stores and a UK bank which supports Samsung pay, would it work in Ireland to pay in stores?
Also, i bought my s20 and the watch3 on eglobal.eu, the phone has a region of Golf region (united arab emirates) the watch3 has no idea what region is not sure they have any but i guess, i dont know how to check, so if the above is working is it possible to change the region of my s20 to UK and use Revolut or N26 or maybe even an actual UK bank card (i could get one)?
Unless you also want to use SPay on your phone, in my experience the region of your phone is not relevant for using SPay on your watch. I am not sure if this goes for your watch, but on my GW, bought in Holland, I was able to choose a region. What happens if you give your watch a reset (make a backup first), can you choose a region?
If so, choose one that supports SPay. If not, then you'll have to change the CSC of your watch to e.g.. BTU (IJK) or PHE (Spain).
Revolut doesn't support SPay, neither does N26 as far as I know. But if you get a Curve Card (UK based, supports SPay, but needs 1 or more credit cards assigned to it enable paying with it), assign your credit card to it (when you do, use a 5 digit zip code), and then enter your Curve Card as card to use for SPay, it should work.
You have to set Samsung Pay up on the mobile, which limits you to Irish settings if you want everything else to work with Irish stuff. Also, there isn't an Irish locale option on the watches. There are some people who's gotten themselves a Curve UK account and used that. That's at least what I've heard.
I'll wait though, I got an N26 account a couple years ago for Google Pay, not going to get one more empty account for this.
It is a bit annoying that Samsung Ireland doesn't seem to be bothered with enabling any features for Irish customers. We don't get the advanced features on newer watches either.

Can't change the Service Provider CSC on my note SM-N960F

So I bought a brand new Sim-free sealed note 9 from eBay last week here in Germany. Take it from the box turn the phone on and see the OPTUS logo when I power it on and then I was thrilled like WTF is this a fake phone? (didn't know what that logo is) so I searched on google and found out that is just an Australian service provider so was relaxed and then I put different SIM card in the phone and I can do phone calls and use mobile data without any problems. The only problem is that the service provider SW is Locked on Optus Australia (OPS). I downloaded different stock firmware's from SamMobile for Germany (DBT), UK (BTU) Even Australia (XSA) and still in settings at the software info/service provider is shown: OPS/OPS,OPS/OPS and every time when I turn the Phone ON/OFF the annoying OPTUS logo is shown... I tried just only flashing the CSC in Odin but still no changes... I contact the buyer on eBay and he is willing to take the phone back and full refund me. But I want to keep the phone really like the Note 9. Please help me :angel:
You have to change the CSC using a combination file ROM, as they use a multi-CSC now. In some ways, it's better than the old system but in others, it's worse.
This took me ages to figure out but after finding a guide and the right combination ROM (must match the current bootloader version else it won't boot), it worked.
Here's the thread that helped me: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...9-s9-csc-only-same-model-numbers-csc.3870836/
Look through all the comments if you have issues. I believe I mentioned, somewhere in that thread, the exact steps I took to make it work.
Newer versions of SamFirm have a combination ROM download option to simplify finding one (new SamFirm builds don't seem to be on the website yet but the guy who maintains it now also has a YouTube channel where he posts links. Seems to be fine except the very latest version seems a bit ad-filled).
Just so you're aware, the N960F shouldn't be carrier-locked. You just can't change the CSC like older phones could. S7 and Note 7 were the last Samsung phones that used the old CSC system, if I remember correctly. Getting rid of the carrier logo is worth it, though, in my opinion.

Question Dual Sim plus health monitor (ECG, etc) impossible?

I just got a new S21 Ultra dual sim Latin American variant, because no US version dual sim Samsung exists. I have a US Version Galaxy Watch 3 that pairs nicely with it, except when the health monitor app on the phone tries to open for the ECG I get an error saying that it is not available in my location. I verified with Samsung that this is because the phone is a non US variant and there is no way around this limitation (according to them), even though ECG is cleared for use in my home country (USA).
So an idea I am exploring now is to send this phone back (still in return period) and buy a UK variant dual sim S21 Ultra. My reasoning is that ECG is cleared for use in UK and apparently the health monitor app is working for the UK. I asked Samsung tech support and the agent said I would not be able to get through the health monitor "onboarding process" from a physical US location using a UK origin device. She didn't think using a UK IP VPN would help any, but she didn't seem sure. Still it seems like a legit idea to me ... the phone is from an "ECG cleared" country and I live in an "ECG cleared" country. But does logic apply with Samsung . . . I am not so sure anymore.
Do you think this idea would work?
Any other ideas of how I could end up with a dual sim S21 on which the health monitor app (ECG, etc) would work . . . that wouldnt risk bricking my phone?
Many thanks in advance for any help.
So here is a second idea to run past the experts here:
change CSC (currently set to TPA ) to XAA using method in this link:
Change CSC on Samsung Devices | Guide | iHax
Looking for a way to change CSC/Country Specific Code on your Samsung Galaxy device? Here's a quick guide on how to do it easily.
ihax.io
I actually pulled up that radio button screen to see what it currently was, but I chickened out of changing it
1) would this change make my dual sim phone a single sim phone?
2) is there a chance it would be impossible to revert back to TPA if the change caused problems?
3) any chance this change would brick the phone?
4) since I have 2 imei numbers, what is the result of making this change on only one imei?
5) do you think this change would solve the problem of not being able to start up and "onboard" the health monitor app?
Changing a csc from dual sim variant to dual sim variant shouldn't have any impact on IMEI. Almost no chance to brick the phone.
CSC just define preinstalled apps and features (ECG, call recording...)
I would say its worth the try but I can't guarantee anything
tiliarou said:
Changing a csc from dual sim variant to dual sim variant shouldn't have any impact on IMEI. Almost no chance to brick the phone.
CSC just define preinstalled apps and features (ECG, call recording...)
I would say its worth the try but I can't guarantee anything
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thanks for that. Actually Id be changing CSC from dual sim variant (Latin America) to single sim variant (USA). Do you think that would cause issues ... like break the dual sim functionality?
So I backed up and looked at this complete mess Samsung has me in trying to kludge their products into working after I paid a hefty price for them and I made a decision. Im still in the return period on everything. So everything is getting boxed back up for return (chargers/watch/phone/cables/etc). Im going to take that money and put it into a dual sim Iphone12 and Apple Watch 6 which apparently works very well in the USA right out of the box with no complicated hacks. Been awhile since I hitched myself to the Apple Wagon ... we'll see how it goes. So long Samsung. RELIEF!
so i tried the iphone for awhile and I just couldnt do it anymore. so the new iphone went to the wife, and i got a Note 20 Ultra (Tmobile brand) today and the dual sim (using esim) does work . . . BUT
1) you have to endure Tmobile unlock policy nonesense
2) the dual sim functionality isnt as finely controlable as iphone or dual sim androids. you select one which of the esim/sim will be "primary" and it will use data. so you cant have the physical sim as the data user and the esim as the primary voice/sms line.
annoying , but not insurmountable issues.
not a bad phone, but the bronze color is actually more like a pink. a big plus for some would be the expandable memory.
a HUGE con is the price . . . 1300 USD
apparently ONLY the TMobile branded us version Note 20's have the esim enabled.
Have you checked the watch does not have to be from a country that supports ECG feature not the phone?
I cannot confirm whether or not the country of the watch itself has any effect. All I can say for sure is the phone has to be a version from a country that supports the ECG feature.

M31 - No NFC???

Hi,
Hope someone can help me. I recently bought a new M31 phone. When I started it up I noticed that it was from Vietnam (I am in the UK). After going through the setup procedures I saw that there is no NFC enabled on this device? Is this correct?
Done a bit of digging and found that this might be the case as they don't have NFC in Vietnam (maybe, don't know?). Anyway, I have re-configured the firmware with Odin to the latest UK firmware, but no NFC button has appeared.
Does this phone actually have no NFC, or is it still embedded within the hardware and just needs to be enabled somehow? If so, how would I do that?
Any help would be appreciated before I send the phone back.
Just to add, the carrier is now updated to BTU, but XXV is still there also.
Thanks.
What does it show exactly? BTU/BTU,BTU/XXV ?
xdausr11 said:
What does it show exactly? BTU/BTU,BTU/XXV ?
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Yes exactly that
If it is showing like this then from software side it should work (assuming that BTU supports NFC). I have mine with DBT and it works, I came from a very restricted French Orange software, the last 3 letters only show the origin, while the others should match. My guess is that the original XXV hardware does not support NFC.
That's what I am thinking. So I assume that there is no way to "unlock" this i.e. the NFC chip is physically in the phone but locked out somehow due to the XXV manufacture code?

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