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For the past few weeks there has been some blog posts, user complaints, and activity on various forums about the new Moto G 2014 having trouble with ram and keeping apps open (multitasking). I understand Android is intended through its design to close active apps when RAM memory runs low, however an increasing number of users are saying even basic multitasks (say using Chrome to browse the internet while trying to stream music from Google Play forces crashes or apps to close). The most activity I've found and participated in is on the Motorola Ower's forum.
Can anyone with a new Motorola G 2014 please comment if you are having this problem or not? And if so, please support the effort to get it resolved by contacting Motorola to ask for a remedy.
The defect exists for me. Every time I switch betweens apps, no matter which, the app restarts.
It is really annoying, especially since I had no problems with my old HTC One X (1GB RAM) and a Moto E (1GB RAM) I had for a while, and fewer problems with many of the 512MB RAM phones I tried.
Yes
Yes, the problem exists, and no real solution came. Thinking about sell it... maybe try a Zenfone?
Same with me. Gets very frustrating using the phone. The phone is perfect in every other regard, except multitaking.
Almost forgot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/design-defect-regarding-memory-t2953501
Don't get a huge amount of force closing of apps but when I do it's annoying, the screen redraw when going from an app back to launcher is really starting to grind on my nerves though, seems to be happening every time I head back to the launcher now, tried wiping the cache in the recovery, works for a while and then back to "Normal!".
Hoping that lollipop will sort it out but from what I've read so far it's not looking hopeful, plus the update seems to be on the back burner now for motorola, was talk of the moto g being the first to get 5.0 but now with LG G3 etc. all get the update looking like we've been forgotten.
Have been looking at other phones, as much as I like the moto g 2014 and the fact I use a sim for calls/texts and another for very cheap data, I may be heading back to a more premium single sim phone, have come from a Nexus 5 I find the moto g memory problem very annoying.
No force closing here,listening music with poweramp and surfing with Chrome at he same time is no problem.Till now I never realized an app to force close.
Ram usage is about 60%.
Ive noticed issues. All we need is a rom with init.d support so that we can set minfree settings at boot. I rooted my phone and ive adjusted minfree settings with romtoolbox, ive noticed a major difference.
who_ohw said:
Ive noticed issues. All we need is a rom with init.d support so that we can set minfree settings at boot. I rooted my phone and ive adjusted minfree settings with romtoolbox, ive noticed a major difference.
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Care to share some of your settings/tweaks?
Sent from my XT1064 using XDA Free mobile app
Forground Application- 4MB
Visible Application- 8MB
Secondary Server- 16MB
Hidden Application- 32MB
Content Provider- 48MB
Empty Application- 64MB
Or you can use the mild settings.
Babe I'm gonna leave you
I said baby, you know I'm gonna leave you.... sold my Moto G2, tired of the annoying memory bug....
In the last fight against the evil MemBug, I got an almost good result:
No redraws
Background music ok
Better multitasking
But I had to disable all Motorola servies and apps, use Greenify donation and MinFreeManager (Agressive)....
Maybe it was solved, I dont know because I already sold and buy another, no time to find out.
Moto, utter disapoint.
Bye, bye, baby bye bye!
Yes, it exists and it is a very big problem as you can't even listen music while you are browsing internet because the music player gets killed within few seconds after putting it in the background.
Motorola needs to fix thus asap. Its really frustrating. Anyone found any possible solution? I used minfreemanager con aggresive. It helps a bit but it still kills the apps
feligoni said:
Motorola needs to fix thus asap. Its really frustrating. Anyone found any possible solution? I used minfreemanager con aggresive. It helps a bit but it still kills the apps
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If Motorola doesn't fix this the solution is a custom rom. Just wait until Lollypop and you will have millions of custom roms fixing this. Nowadays we don't have these custom roms because the cookers are waiting for Lollypop as it is not rewarding to build a rom based on Kit Kat with the new update around the corner.
Turns out i wasnt able to solve the issues i was having. I think its due to lollipop. After a while apps just start crashing and get progressively worse with multitasking. Ive noticed that its not actually changing the minfree values in lollipop. As time goes on the only way to fix my phone is to boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik. Otherwise it bootloops...
So im going to revert to 4.4.4 as soon as i can find a valid link to download it........
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If Motorola doesn't fix this the solution is a custom rom. Just wait until Lollypop and you will have millions of custom roms fixing this. Nowadays we don't have these custom roms because the cookers are waiting for Lollypop as it is not rewarding to build a rom based on Kit Kat with the new update around the corner.
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Yep, i know custom ROM's will fix this problem eventually. The thing is way too many people are afraid to start messing up with the phone because you can brick it. Personally, the first ROM i see for xt1063 i will flash it xD. But to all the people who don't know how to do it, they will have the problem forever, or until Motorola fixes it. I had a Huawei Ascend before this Moto G and with 30 mb free almost all the time it had better multitasking
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Yep, i know custom ROM's will fix this problem eventually. The thing is way too many people are afraid to start messing up with the phone because you can brick it. Personally, the first ROM i see for xt1063 i will flash it xD. But to all the people who don't know how to do it, they will have the problem forever, or until Motorola fixes it. I had a Huawei Ascend before this Moto G and with 30 mb free almost all the time it had better multitasking
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Yes, I understand what you are saying but when you flash a Custom Recovery is literally impossible to brick your device. And you are right, I have a backup Huawei with 512 mb of RAM and it does not have this sort of problems. Same happens to my Nexus 7 with 1 GB of RAM memory.
EDIT:
We have some news from Motorola regarding this issue. Thanks to the reports done in this thread:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/6168839e0e?page=1
An Android blog posted this:
http://www.androidorigin.com/moto-g-bug-multitask/
And then, suddenly:
We're working on a some things to improve your experience. We do not recommend rooting or unlocking your bootloader. Thanks for all the feedback in this thread.
Mark
Forums Manager
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Well I decided to start using Nova Prime Launcher again since I own the full paid app, using the option for Aggressive Desktop the home screen redraw has stopped, press home button from any running app and it now goes straight to the launcher with absolutely no redraw, so at least that's one problem solved. Just as a test I briefly used the now launcher again and the redraw came back almost straight away.
Hello everyone, sorry for my english its not my native language.
I havr been having the same multi tasking problems, fed up about this trying all the solutions i have not been luck.
I decided to flash my phone with a custom rom and to disable lots of motorola services at boot and i cam say after 2 days of use my phone only kills old apps.it is working geat and fast, the only app that works little bad is skype
I installed andro x custom rom
Hope it helps
I don't have this problem so thought I would post some details about my set up and see if helps you. My phone is rooted, mainly so I can use apps like Xposed and Ti backup, and I'm using a custom pINKman kernel , though fairly sure it was fine on the stock kernel.
I have disabled all the apps I don't use, so maybe this is why I don't have the issue you have?
As a test I've been playing streaming music from BBC iPlayer radio in the background, browsing with Dolphin browser with 3 tabs open and switching between them (Google Chrome is disabled), looking through the gallery, reading email, sending sms, using BBC News app, opening Netflix, took a photo, took screenshots, opened the home screen several times and scrolled pages, (Nova launcher), no lag or redrawing. Streaming music continued playing without interruption, except momentarily when a got a new email notification which is how it should be. No apps FC and no noticeable problems.
I've uploaded screenshots of the frozen apps that I don't use or want running. Maybe this will help?
Like many of you, I've had my phone for over two years now - that's quite some time! In the span of time I've owned this phone, I never unlocked the bootloader, rooted, installed a custom ROM, flashed any unofficial updates or modified anything in any way.
However, performance has decreased. A lot. Apps take a lot of time to open, the launcher reloads on the regular, SystemUI crashes on a weekly basis, some apps fail to start and they only finally run after multiple attempts. And, even though i set my SD card as internal storage, not many apps can be moved there and it's all fighting for storage in the narrow narrow internal storage partition. The RAM situation is even worse, with apps like Spotify and Chrome being killed all the time. Install one App too much and watch everything lose frames.
The Moto G5 Plus looks like a fantastic phone, but since I'm waiting for its value to drop to a more appropriate price tag, it looks like my next upgrade is not as close as I would like it to be. And since I don't want to keep wanting to throw my Moto on the floor every single day, I've been getting my feet wet into the modding world and what a custom ROM is and what Greenify is etc etc.
However, I've heard very mixed feelings about custom ROMs. Say, if I were to install the official LineageOS 14.1 from the LineageOS website, without root, would it be worth it? What compromises have to be made? Does it really improve performance and battery life? Is the stability ready for daily usage? And also, does the camera quality change? I haven't been able to find an answer for any of these questions. In short - is it worth the trouble or is the stock ROM just better after all? I don't care about root (I'd rather NOT have it, even), I don't care about customization, themes, XPosed or whatnot. I just want a ROM that I can flash on my phone, install my Apps on it, use it until my Moto G5 Plus ships and then completely forget it's a custom ROM.
I tell you my opinion:
I think the CYAN project, now lineage, is a wonderful thing for those who want and have time to spare to look for how to push the most of your device, but I must say that the only solution to have an efficient phone is to give up the app superfluous and wipe useless data on the internal memory. In this way with the latest stock my motog 2014 goes very well.
sorry for poor english
I have Moto G XT1068 since novembre 2014 and i think it's nowaday a good phone.
Remember that i dont' play games.
My phone had stock rom until 1 month ago and i went very well with stock rom.
Every 4/6 months i used to have a factory reset also erasing my sd and the system is always good.
From 1 month i use LineageOS and it's good.
Some settings are missing, like the ability to deactivate sim cards, but everything else works.
Battery is, in my opinion, better that stock, but take in mind i use a task killer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rhythm.hexise.task
There are some things that i made, like deactivating some apps from lineage like camera, browser, gallery, calculator, cLock, calendar, email, music, weather service. I replaced them with Google Apps, while for gallery and Camera i use the same Moto G 2014 camera and gallery from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/themes-apps/official-motorola-camerav5-0-21-4-t3121709
Camera app from Lineage in my opinion is terrible: hdr freezes, too much settings and confusing; i love Moto G2014 stock camera, but with Lineage slow motion doesn't work; likely it works in Lineage.
Very good battery, system is stable and fast, you have one hand mode, you have screen splitting, you have lots of quick settings personalible.
In my opinion is hust ready to be a daybyday rom, more efficient than stock 6.0, hoping next nightlies don't have problems, that can succeed.
But with regular twrp backup i don't think youll'have problems.
SuperFrancis said:
I tell you my opinion:
I think the CYAN project, now lineage, is a wonderful thing for those who want and have time to spare to look for how to push the most of your device, but I must say that the only solution to have an efficient phone is to give up the app superfluous and wipe useless data on the internal memory. In this way with the latest stock my motog 2014 goes very well.
sorry for poor english
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Thank you, I'm going to do some more spring cleaning then. I'm definitely not interested in babysitting my software every day. I went through that phase on iOS with jailbreak and daemons, and all in all it was not worth it. I deleted some Apps and gave up the Google Now Launcher in favour of the leaner Evie launcher and I must say the situation has improved tangibly! The biggest improvement was after getting rid of Snapchat. Instagram stories does it anyway. Still, there are some combos that are still really prohibitive (Namely, Chrome + Spotify and Sworkit + Spotify), but it's a bit better. Battery life still sucks at just a little more than 2h screen on time with light usage, but since I don't have much off time and since I typically don't use my phone a lot during it, it's not a debilitating problem right now. However, I know that during summer having so little battery life will be unpractical, and by then I'll be looking to upgrade!
SuperFrancis said:
I tell you my opinion:
I think the CYAN project, now lineage, is a wonderful thing for those who want and have time to spare to look for how to push the most of your device, but I must say that the only solution to have an efficient phone is to give up the app superfluous and wipe useless data on the internal memory. In this way with the latest stock my motog 2014 goes very well.
sorry for poor english
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bostro said:
I have Moto G XT1068 since novembre 2014 and i think it's nowaday a good phone.
Remember that i dont' play games.
My phone had stock rom until 1 month ago and i went very well with stock rom.
Every 4/6 months i used to have a factory reset also erasing my sd and the system is always good.
From 1 month i use LineageOS and it's good.
Some settings are missing, like the ability to deactivate sim cards, but everything else works.
Battery is, in my opinion, better that stock, but take in mind i use a task killer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rhythm.hexise.task
There are some things that i made, like deactivating some apps from lineage like camera, browser, gallery, calculator, cLock, calendar, email, music, weather service. I replaced them with Google Apps, while for gallery and Camera i use the same Moto G 2014 camera and gallery from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/themes-apps/official-motorola-camerav5-0-21-4-t3121709
Camera app from Lineage in my opinion is terrible: hdr freezes, too much settings and confusing; i love Moto G2014 stock camera, but with Lineage slow motion doesn't work; likely it works in Lineage.
Very good battery, system is stable and fast, you have one hand mode, you have screen splitting, you have lots of quick settings personalible.
In my opinion is hust ready to be a daybyday rom, more efficient than stock 6.0, hoping next nightlies don't have problems, that can succeed.
But with regular twrp backup i don't think youll'have problems.
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Thank you, I'll be considering this option as well! I'm glad the CM Apps can be disabled since they are pretty basic compared to Google's counterparts and I don't like having a double copy of everything. And I agree - I had to install Cyanogenmod on a cheap Chinese phone (Luckily it's not the phone I use daily.) and the camera and gallery apps were just atrocious. As for the WebView Chrome comes with one so it's good. As of right now, I've been able to improve performance a bit following the recommendations from another user, so I'll see whether to install LOS or now.
bostro said:
I have Moto G XT1068 since novembre 2014 and i think it's nowaday a good phone.
Remember that i dont' play games.
My phone had stock rom until 1 month ago and i went very well with stock rom.
Every 4/6 months i used to have a factory reset also erasing my sd and the system is always good.
From 1 month i use LineageOS and it's good.
Some settings are missing, like the ability to deactivate sim cards, but everything else works.
Battery is, in my opinion, better that stock, but take in mind i use a task killer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rhythm.hexise.task
There are some things that i made, like deactivating some apps from lineage like camera, browser, gallery, calculator, cLock, calendar, email, music, weather service. I replaced them with Google Apps, while for gallery and Camera i use the same Moto G 2014 camera and gallery from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/themes-apps/official-motorola-camerav5-0-21-4-t3121709
Camera app from Lineage in my opinion is terrible: hdr freezes, too much settings and confusing; i love Moto G2014 stock camera, but with Lineage slow motion doesn't work; likely it works in Lineage.
Very good battery, system is stable and fast, you have one hand mode, you have screen splitting, you have lots of quick settings personalible.
In my opinion is hust ready to be a daybyday rom, more efficient than stock 6.0, hoping next nightlies don't have problems, that can succeed.
But with regular twrp backup i don't think youll'have problems.
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Hi there! Your comment makes me want even more to try Lineage OS in my Moto g2 xt1068 as well, but I'm not even able to find out how to root my phone. You know, thinking kind of "I'm gonna make explode the poor phone because I'm really new at this"
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Hi there! Your comment makes me want even more to try Lineage OS in my Moto g2 xt1068 as well, but I'm not even able to find out how to root my phone. You know, thinking kind of "I'm gonna make explode the poor phone because I'm really new at this"
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It's not difficult but may happen your phone has problems and goes in bootloop.
You have to learn how to:
- unlook bootloader: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/wip-unlock-bootloader-moto-g-2nd-gen-t2875728
- install recovery and root: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/xt1063-t3018818
- After that, download rom and flash via twrp: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-14-0-t3458931
SlimKat is a V4 (KitKat) ROM by SlimRoms. It's based on AOSP 4.4.4. Its latest release, build 9.0, was Dec-22 2014 with a 3.0.8 kernel.
Its disadvanatges are that it is no longer supported by the Slim dev team; no custom overclock kernels exist for it; no hand-wave for notifications lockscreen feature of the later 5.0+ versions; and there's no support for altpart Safestrap.
But that's where its downsides end and its upsides begin. With nearly any 3rd-party ROM it's a series of tradeoffs. What works and what doesn't, what do you need and what can you do without. Not so with SlimKat. Everything, and I mean everything, just... works. Flawlessly. Even HDMI. This ROM is feature-rich, yet still so lean you can run it with Slim's normal Gapps package on the stock slot. At 180MB, Slim's normal Gapps package is 15MB smaller than the OpenGapps nano package for 7.1.2. I've been running this as a daily driver for over a month and not a single thing has gone wrong with it. No force-closes. No hangs. No jitters. No crashes. No random reboots. This is as close to a stock ROM's stability and performance as anything I've ever used. It's fast and responsive and handles whatever you throw at it. All that and great battery life too - I typically get about 36-44 hours from a full charge.
Support for 4.4.4 is extensive throughout the app community and I have yet to find an app that doesn't work with it. Custom fonts are easily installed with iFont and there are extensive interface and navigation customizations available in the SlimCenter. Cyanogenmod/LineageOS 11 themes are available for it on the Play Store.
The stock SlimLauncher is extensively configurable, and supports gestures, desktop folders, grid size configuration, icon size configuration, hidden apps, hidden icon labels and much more. I prefer a horizontally paged interface for my app drawer, and this one works exactly as this should work, where you swipe left or right and each page of app icons disappears behind the next, rather than a continuous side-scroll. This is especially important on the Droid 4 because of its TFT screen's limitations that make things difficult to read when continuously scrolling against a dark background.
While most ROMs will let you disable some system apps, SlimKat has a SlimSizer app in the SlimCenter settings that lets you save or fully remove any included system app from a simple checklist. SU is integrated and the ROM is rooted out-of-the-box. Google Voice works seamlessly with it. Voice Search starts up quickly and doesn't hang or crash, and interactions with it are predictable. The built-in WiFi hotspot works flawlessly. It natively supports Face Unlock.
Its sole quirks are that the keyboard doesn't illuminate when you slide it open until you press a key, and direct reboot to recovery doesn't work (just do a standard reboot and activate SafeStrap recovery at startup).
Verdict: Hands down, the overall best 3rd party ROM I've tested for the Droid 4. Rock-solid, OEM-level reliability and performance in a compact yet feature-rich package with outstanding battery life. If you don't require a newer version of Android (5+) for app compatibility or features, and don't want the code-bloat of the later versions, you simply can't do better than SlimKat on the Droid 4.
Thank you for this!
I was hoping there were some posts like this, but it being 2018 I wasn't optimistic...
just picked up a droid 4 to have a backup phone and for a bit of nostalgia - I had an OG droid that I kind of miss using
Update: After six months with SlimKat, I'm moving on. There's only one real problem I've had with it, but it's been really annoying. Frequently it just won't wake up the screen - the soft buttons light up, but the screen stays blank. It can often take several attempts before it works, if at all - usually after the third try I just give up and wait it out until the next time I want to check it. This is especially frustrating when receiving a call, as I've often missed calls just waiting for it to wake up the screen so I can answer it. Never been able to track down the cause or figure out a solution.
There's also a strange problem in the file system that there are "ghost" files throughout. Blanks show up randomly throughout my gallery, and duplicates of music and videos also work their way in, confusing the database and making it difficult and sometimes impossible to play back these files. I tried clearing app data for the Gallery and rescanning, even moving files to new folders, but it would only fix it temporarily and eventually these would come back. My gallery would show I had 1200 pictures when I had at most 350, and my music library would also show five copies of the same song, only one of which would actually play. I thought maybe these were ghosts of deleted files, but could never be sure. I used an alternate gallery app, QuickPic, and it worked normally without the blanks.
The hotspot feature had issues as well. It would pass the traffic for the connected devices, but after a while it would stop working for the apps on the phone itself, until I shut it off.
I'm not sure if it's a possible problem in my phone either, so I'm trying something different.
Good Day.
I would like to clarify that I do not know how to create ROMs and I do not know how to write codes(anymore) but since our devices are aging, would be it great to send our Xperia SP off with a bang with an Android GO edition-like ROM? our devices cant handle newer apps and processes anymore but at least I think the Go edition ROM can still make our phones as usable as daily drivers either on Android Q or Pie.
please consider. thank you.
As far as i may concerned, LOW RAM optimisations are already implemented in the codebase for current active ROMs for Huashan. And, to the best of my knowledge, which i may be wrong, these optimisations are derived from Android GO itself. I vaguely remember that at one time this is a main topic said by Adrian the master himself.
Huashan is no longer capable to run modern apps that somewhat uses heavy resources (which i myself don't understand why Instagram needed such a computing power). Unfortunately neither do current Go phones. That is why PWA is a thing to all Go devices. I.e. Maps Go, Twitter Lite, etc.
Of course this is not an objection to your proposal. Just thinking of dropping my thoughts here
Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
Instead of shoving newer android versions down this phones throat expecting miracles. We should go back to one of Lollipop or marshmallow ROMs and realise how much lag free and usable it is. They're still pretty modern looking and does the job well.
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Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
Instead of shoving newer android versions down this phones throat expecting miracles. We should go back to one of Lollipop or marshmallow ROMs and realise how much lag free and usable it is. They're still pretty modern looking and does the job well.
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Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
Not to mention that they offer battery times like 7-12 days.
emcom said:
Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
Not to mention that they offer battery times like 7-12 days.
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I don't use gapps on LOS 15.1. Knowing that they crap the phone out.
LOS 15.1 is good, we get latest security updates, better UI etc.. but hangs and stutters more with apps and multitasking.
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Android Oreo and Pie just doesn't cut it well for this phone.
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I don't agree with that, KaBombaBoom. I ran Oreo for a long time and recently upgraded to Pie. The phone is still surprisingly fast until some hungry app gobbles up all RAM and it starts running on swap.
That's what doesn't cut well for any phone in the long run, those apps that keep growing bigger and bigger and requiring more RAM though mostly or no new functionality is added.
Google Play Services itself is heavy, not to mention other google apps such as their mail, I open it from the browser these days. I'd love to get away without GApps but retaining the deep sleep wake that push notifications provide.
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Free yourself from Google and then you'll see how smooth current ROMs are.
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How is your experience with that emcom? Does your phone wakes up from deep sleep when you get IM?
That's the main reason I never tried android without GApps. That and the fact that all drivers are mostly proprietary anyways, so why bother
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I don't agree with that, KaBombaBoom. I ran Oreo for a long time and recently upgraded to Pie. The phone is still surprisingly fast until some hungry app gobbles up all RAM and it starts running on swap.
That's what doesn't cut well for any phone in the long run, those apps that keep growing bigger and bigger and requiring more RAM though mostly or no new functionality is added.
Google Play Services itself is heavy, not to mention other google apps such as their mail, I open it from the browser these days. I'd love to get away without GApps but retaining the deep sleep wake that push notifications provide.
How is your experience with that emcom? Does your phone wakes up from deep sleep when you get IM?
That's the main reason I never tried android without GApps. That and the fact that all drivers are mostly proprietary anyways, so why bother
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Of course it wakes up. I've been using it as my daily driver with WhatsApp for some time last year, and it was perfect. There was just one problem which I could not resolve : message backups. I mean, it was working perfectly when I made backups on the SD card, but if I wanted to have them somewhere in the cloud, the only option was the Google Drive - which is not working without Google services.
Btw. it's possible to use One Drive instead of Google Drive (eg. for photos backup in the cloud, but not WhatsApp - if you have maybe Office 365 subscription.
And it's possible to have anything else running without Google - contacts, messaging, even a lot of applications indicating they need Google on the phone - they are working without Google anyway. Thet's except for paid apps, of course.
I got my Redmi Note 10 Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm really liking it except for some issues. MIUI feels really bloated and sluggish even after using the adb tools to remove most of the pre-installed garbage. Battery life has been really disappointing even after going to 60hz and using low brightness. You also can't use a third party launcher with the full screen gestures and i hate the default launcher. I've been thinking about installing Pixel Experience as I've seen other people having better battery life and performance than on MIUI. It's also stock android so that's a cherry on top, but i don't know what sort of issues it might come with. First of all I don't know if all of my apps will work. I'm also scared that I might brick my phone and I'm not gonna be able to go back to MIUI if there are any issues. Also I might not get regular or quality updates and I don't trust the small team that works on the pixel experience rom more than Xiaomi. Can someone tell me if any of these issues exist and if it's worth it to use a custom rom? Thanks.
it is, I've been using debloated miui11 and 12 on tulip for over 2 years, it is much, much better than original miui. My wife has been using custom aicp on rn4x, and again, experience was much better, than on stock.
Apps will work in 99% cases, if not, there are tutorials how to install them. Stuff that you have to look over the most are banking apps, nfc apps and rn10p miui stock cam (which is actually better, than gcam mods now).
RN10p does not have anti rollback protection, it is generally easier to flash than smartphones based on mediatek cpus, so you must done some physical damage to actually broke this phone.
About OTA's - there are options to install ota updates on custom recovieries like skyhawk recovery project or others to twrp (this recovery does not have that option, as far as I know). If that fails, you can always install new version on top of the old.
Ok thanks a lot! Are there any suggestions you can give me on what rom i should use on the rn10p and can you give me any tips about installing and using custom roms? I'm new to this.
I've just started and installed pixel experience (normal, without plus, not sure, what is the difference between it, since even the size is the same). Firstly, you have to unlock your bootloader in order to proceed. Then make sure you've installed usb drivers for this phone (without it, you cannot unlock bootloader, for example, because miunlock does not see your phone).
About a rom - the cleaner the android, the better (mostly). If you aren't super tied to some special miui-only options (most noticeable being xiaomi account and preinstalled mi forum), then you are free to go. Phone is capable of running even fully packed android 11, so picking the lightest rom without gapps to save space doesn't have much sense these days (it had like 7 years ago, when internal storage was always a shortage). Most cool stuff are call recorder (blocked in official miui and in most european countries), small tweaks with gestures and buttons (most roms have it), tweaks like "long press menu button to torch" etc. You'll have to look for yourself later then, but for now just follow guide to install and read topics before instalation - in most cases if something goes wrong, you should be able to pick that from somebody's story. Also remember about backups of internal storage, music, photos, app installers etc, because all of it is gone with almost every operation.
Generally from MIUI there's one thing that You must take with you - camera app. So far stock is best. There are tutorials in pixel experience thread on how to install it. Also, I highly recommend root - you can make it only after unlocking bootloader, but being able to access deeper areas of system, uninstall unwanted stuff, get rid of ads etc is worth the try, especially if nowadays magisk instalation is really simple. For more advanced users, you could try to install edxposed manager to customize phone even more.
buczek0711 said:
I've just started and installed pixel experience (normal, without plus, not sure, what is the difference between it, since even the size is the same). Firstly, you have to unlock your bootloader in order to proceed. Then make sure you've installed usb drivers for this phone (without it, you cannot unlock bootloader, for example, because miunlock does not see your phone).
About a rom - the cleaner the android, the better (mostly). If you aren't super tied to some special miui-only options (most noticeable being xiaomi account and preinstalled mi forum), then you are free to go. Phone is capable of running even fully packed android 11, so picking the lightest rom without gapps to save space doesn't have much sense these days (it had like 7 years ago, when internal storage was always a shortage). Most cool stuff are call recorder (blocked in official miui and in most european countries), small tweaks with gestures and buttons (most roms have it), tweaks like "long press menu button to torch" etc. You'll have to look for yourself later then, but for now just follow guide to install and read topics before instalation - in most cases if something goes wrong, you should be able to pick that from somebody's story. Also remember about backups of internal storage, music, photos, app installers etc, because all of it is gone with almost every operation.
Generally from MIUI there's one thing that You must take with you - camera app. So far stock is best. There are tutorials in pixel experience thread on how to install it. Also, I highly recommend root - you can make it only after unlocking bootloader, but being able to access deeper areas of system, uninstall unwanted stuff, get rid of ads etc is worth the try, especially if nowadays magisk instalation is really simple. For more advanced users, you could try to install edxposed manager to customize phone even more.
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Thanks a ton for your help! I'll install pixel experience and try it out tomorrow. I'll root it and install the stock camera. Wish me luck.
Zare_ said:
I got my Redmi Note 10 Pro a couple of weeks ago and I'm really liking it except for some issues. MIUI feels really bloated and sluggish even after using the adb tools to remove most of the pre-installed garbage. Battery life has been really disappointing even after going to 60hz and using low brightness. You also can't use a third party launcher with the full screen gestures and i hate the default launcher. I've been thinking about installing Pixel Experience as I've seen other people having better battery life and performance than on MIUI. It's also stock android so that's a cherry on top, but i don't know what sort of issues it might come with. First of all I don't know if all of my apps will work. I'm also scared that I might brick my phone and I'm not gonna be able to go back to MIUI if there are any issues. Also I might not get regular or quality updates and I don't trust the small team that works on the pixel experience rom more than Xiaomi. Can someone tell me if any of these issues exist and if it's worth it to use a custom rom? Thanks.
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I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
LeDiable said:
I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
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Why would it be a joke? Not everyone is master of rom swapping and adb commands freshly out of the box. It is already much higher level than at least some people, who called their phones by Wrong models or keep asking for help, because they screwed their phones badly. Normal questions, if you ask me.
LeDiable said:
I'm guessing, this is a joke, right? right?
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Why would it be a joke?
buczek0711 said:
Why would it be a joke? Not everyone is master of rom swapping and adb commands freshly out of the box. It is already much higher level than at least some people, who called their phones by Wrong models or keep asking for help, because they screwed their phones badly. Normal questions, if you ask me.
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Exactly, Thanks!