Hi!
I am new to this forum and I just want to confirm something. Bypass charging is a feature that helps preserving the battery life by directly providing power to the phone from the power source correct? but won't this hasten the life of the phone itself? what is the ideal span of time to use your phone using bypass charging?
Thank you so much for your answers
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Not at all, as it doesn't give more power than the phone need. This is an old technology, if my memory is right it was first found on Sony laptops. It should gives opposite result as it reduce heat on your device.
bASKOU said:
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Not at all, as it doesn't give more power than the phone need. This is an old technology, if my memory is right it was first found on Sony laptops. It should gives opposite result as it reduce heat on your device.
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Thank you for your response. So wouldnit be safe to just plug my phone to the power outlet for like kore than half a day?
Heat is the enemy. If you want to keep the monster phone running continuously with screen on for more than half a day, make sure it stays cool.
Personally wouldn't advice you to do it on any phone.
yvaditya said:
Heat is the enemy. If you want to keep the monster phone running continuously with screen on for more than half a day, make sure it stays cool.
Personally wouldn't advice you to do it on any phone.
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Ow okay..thank you fornyour help.. onenlast question.. is the temperature of 37 to 42 degrees based on armoury crate normal when playing via bypass charging okay and normal?
Naimas said:
Thank you for your response. So wouldnit be safe to just plug my phone to the power outlet for like kore than half a day?
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My opinion is yes you can, this phone is designed to be used as a game station (like a Nintendo switch). I guess the main reason for the Bypass charging is this. Dock your phone when at home and switching between phone and PC on one screen, mouse and keyboard. The Bypass will not use your battery (save battery life) and give the juice needed by your phone as the battery would do.
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My opinion is yes you can, this phone is designed to be used as a game station (like a Nintendo switch). I guess the main reason for the Bypass charging is this. Dock your phone when at home and switching between phone and PC on one screen, mouse and keyboard. The Bypass will not use your battery (save battery life) and give the juice needed by your phone as the battery would do.
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thank you so much!
onenlast question.. is the temperature of 37 to 42 degrees based on armoury crate normal when playing via bypass charging okay and normal?
Naimas said:
thank you so much!
onenlast question.. is the temperature of 37 to 42 degrees based on armoury crate normal when playing via bypass charging okay and normal?
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Totally normal, without it I get the same while playing PUBG or COD. And get up to 47 degrees on ARK
bASKOU said:
Totally normal, without it I get the same while playing PUBG or COD. And get up to 47 degrees on ARK
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alright thank you so much for your insights man! very much appreciated!
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I only have 5 widgets, and my brightness is also low as possible. I have wifi off when i don't use it, but my battery still dies kinda fast. Should i delete cell standby? And what else can i do?
You really should define "kinda fast" so folks can answer objectively
Well just playing games like angry birds for 20 minutes it drops like 10%
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Well just playing games like angry birds for 20 minutes it drops like 10%
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1) Which ROM
2) What widgets
3) What are you using to monitor battery drop
10% in 20 minutes (screen on, in use) is pretty aggressive.
HotShotAzn said:
1) Which ROM
2) What widgets
3) What are you using to monitor battery drop
10% in 20 minutes (screen on, in use) is pretty aggressive.
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1. Stock with launcherpro
2. Typoclock power control beautiful battery google search and music
3. Beautiful battery
EverythingNook said:
1. Stock with launcherpro
2. Typoclock power control beautiful battery google search and music
3. Beautiful battery
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What drain are you seeing with screen off/idle?
with the screen off for about 5 hours i saw a 21% drain.
Drop the widgets and livewallpaper if you've got it. Retest standby.
If you're getting high battery drain during standby your nook isn't going into deep sleep and chances are that background overhead translates to poor efficiency at idle when the nook is on as well. Couple poor idle efficiency with CPU intensive work while in use and your overall battery life is terrible.
If you're forcing the nook to stay out of deep sleep for other reasons like keeping wifi alive then you may be stuck with living with some sort of elevated drain but you can minimize it by reducing idle overhead by keeping widgets to a minimum and refraining from using live wallpapers and other background services that aren't critical.
Tacking on to here rather than starting a new thread...
My Nook Color rooted, but still on stock ROM goes from 100% charge to 25% in about 8-9 hours with zero usage. Obviously something's going on (I suspect it's that I have Advanced WiFi sleep policy set to never and am away from WiFi), but no other widgets running. I do have Google Voice app installed.
What I'm curious about is what would normal standby battery drain be? What would be typical after 8-9 hours of just sitting untouched in my brief case?
Thanks in advance!
distortedloop said:
Obviously something's going on (I suspect it's that I have Advanced WiFi sleep policy set to never and am away from WiFi), but no other widgets running.
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If you suspect it, disable it and see. I'm thinking that would be a prime suspect.
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What I'm curious about is what would normal standby battery drain be? What would be typical after 8-9 hours of just sitting untouched in my brief case?
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I believe typically overnight you should see less than 10% drain.
In CM7 at least, in Spare Parts you can see what uses the battery while the NC is asleep.
distortedloop said:
Tacking on to here rather than starting a new thread...
My Nook Color rooted, but still on stock ROM goes from 100% charge to 25% in about 8-9 hours with zero usage. Obviously something's going on (I suspect it's that I have Advanced WiFi sleep policy set to never and am away from WiFi), but no other widgets running. I do have Google Voice app installed.
What I'm curious about is what would normal standby battery drain be? What would be typical after 8-9 hours of just sitting untouched in my brief case?
Thanks in advance!
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do you have it overclocked? if so, have a profile that clocks it down to 300mhz when the screen is locked
hxh103 said:
do you have it overclocked? if so, have a profile that clocks it down to 300mhz when the screen is locked
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No, not yet. It's 100% stock, other than rooting and downloading apps. I'm going to put SystemPanel on it and see if it gives a clue.
I've got a good idea of how to track down battery issues on most android devices, I was just mostly curious what the typical drain other rooted users saw was.
Thx for the suggestions to all.
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do you have it overclocked? if so, have a profile that clocks it down to 300mhz when the screen is locked
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Good lord, this isn't going to help anything. Normal Nook Colors on the stock ROM (and kernel....) use about .2%/hr in standby.
Clearly something is running wild on this guys NC, and needs to look at Spare Parts. Install it from the market.
System Panel as well as other tools can help as well.
Okay, I'm a pretty smart guy usually, but I'll publicly put on the dunce cap and admit to my ignorance on this one.
System Panel actually showed some amazingly good lack of drain with all my apps running.
The reason my battery was so low when I checked it each afternoon is because even though I thought I was charging the thing over night, I wasn't. I was using a regular micro-usb cable for my phone to plug the thing in most nights.
Turns out the Nook Color has an extra deep micro-usb receptacle and requires a better endowed male plug to get it charged properly.
Lame...
(Lame of me, but also lame of B&N to make such a design decision. What were they thinking? I HATE proprietary connectors.)
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Okay, I'm a pretty smart guy usually, but I'll publicly put on the dunce cap and admit to my ignorance on this one.
System Panel actually showed some amazingly good lack of drain with all my apps running.
The reason my battery was so low when I checked it each afternoon is because even though I thought I was charging the thing over night, I wasn't. I was using a regular micro-usb cable for my phone to plug the thing in most nights.
Turns out the Nook Color has an extra deep micro-usb receptacle and requires a better endowed male plug to get it charged properly.
Lame...
(Lame of me, but also lame of B&N to make such a design decision. What were they thinking? I HATE proprietary connectors.)
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Extra WIDE, not deep. And there's good reason USB standards are .5A over the typical 4 pin connection. The B&N cable has FOUR extra pins, delivering the other 1.4A of power.
Extra deep. Two stages...
First stage 5 pins, second stage 12 pins...
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Yup same cable as my Droid2 and Droid before it....
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Yup same cable as my Droid2 and Droid before it....
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Does this mean we can use the droid2 and droid's cables as alternatives?
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Extra WIDE, not deep. And there's good reason USB standards are .5A over the typical 4 pin connection. The B&N cable has FOUR extra pins, delivering the other 1.4A of power.
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Thanks for the extra info about the additional voltage; so it will charge much faster this way? (rhetorical question)
I still am annoyed at yet another non-standard cable that I'll have to carry around with me when I travel to keep various devices charged, but in the scheme of things it's a minor annoyance. Stuff like this should be standardized, IMHO.
And it's extra DEEP, not wide. It's the same width as a standard micro-usb cable or I wouldn't have been able to stick my phone's charging cable into it at all, but I was able to, it just didn't go in deep enough to charge at all. On the flips side, the B&N cable fits into my phone, but only inserts half-way deep; if it were extra wide it wouldn't fit into my phone at all.
Hi,
I've tried to search for a solution but haven't find any. You know there is a message when battery temperature gets too high then charging stops. The popup message is very very annoying: I use navigation and blackbox while driving. And when this message comes I have to press OK, and 5 secs after it appears again... very very annoying.
I agree with not to overheat the battery but why not just stop charging without this message? Is there any trick to eliminate this? In summer time and sunny days this msg comes very often. I have to place a piece of plastic to car's ventillation hole to minimizing the chance of this msg.
I don't care if it's charging or not, I just don't want to see this msg.
Please help if you have any idea!
I'm on stock JVR now, rooted, underclocked @ 800MHz. Other ROMs (CM7, MIUI) just stops carging without any message.
Had the same problem awhile back,reflash jvr, and dont use undervolting/overclocking programs/kernels.
faria said:
Had the same problem awhile back,reflash jvr, and dont use undervolting/overclocking programs/kernels.
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+1 Dont OC/uV too much.
My apologies guys, but please read: I don't use OC/UV, I use stock and underclock.
With normal use and simple charging everything goes well but under heavy use I get this message while charging. Under heavy use I mean navigation, blackbox, and of course phone is at the windscreen while heated by the sun. The phone's glass is hot. It's normal of course because I use CPU intensive apps.
I repeat: I don't care about charging or not, just want this message to be disappeared.
I just unplug mine from the charger when this pops up. It happens with me in exactly the same circumstances. GPS navigation, dashboard of the car, and bright sunny days, it's not an overclock issue, just high ambient heat source, high cpu usage plus charging.
I also find it's aggravated by the silicon skin case I use.
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I just unplug mine from the charger when this pops up.
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Yes I'm doing the same as workaround. But other ROMs just stop charging and continue when phone cooled down without any message. It would be very nice to just remove this message by a script or editing a script or something else (I'm not a dev just an "I-like-to-hack" power user).
DO your devices get extremely hot at all? Mine did ,to the point that it was to too hot to handle, im surprised the dam thing did not exploded.
As for removing the message i have not a clue how too, i do know however that is is triggered by the thermal sensors.
I can also recall this happening with my windows mobile devices a few times,this happened when the gps services were stuck working in the background.
In all occasions the only fix a found was to re flash the rom.
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DO your devices get extremely hot at all? Mine did ,to the point that it was to too hot to handle, im surprised the dam thing did not exploded.
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No, it's not too hot, it's just warm enough. I don't say it's abnormal because in direct sunlight while charging and using cpu intensive apps it's normal. Just try to figure out is there any chance to do this all without this message...
Ok, I'll wait for someone who knows something or know someone who has seen someone who know something...
Referring to other threads I'm not the only one with this problem and not SGS is the only one with this problem.
While this message is not needed and has no function it has to be eliminated some way because tapping OK is very disturbing while driving/navigating/etc...
Script? Kernel patch/hack? Something? If some ROMs can do it (like MIUI) there must be a way to have it disappeared...
I had the same problem with a Galaxy S II today. First, it began to warn me that was starting charging. And 1 second later it warn the Power Saving was activated and the charger was turned off.
Later, it said 'Charging pause. Voltage too high'. When I've tried to power off the phone, it was powering on by itself.
During the morning, I've used the phone to consume battery. At the afternoon, I put it via USB cable and it seems the problem is solved, for now.
I'm using the ICS ROM beta, by Samsung, have some days.
I bought a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus on Friday and spent the weekend adding movies, music, etc..So far, I love the device.
Last night I set it on my desk with about 86% battery left but did not plug it in and did not turn it off. I simply let it sleep...
When I got up this AM, it was unresponsive as the batter had completely drained. I have no way of knowing why this happened since the device went off completelya nd any programs I may have left running were no longer running of course.
Is this normal for an unusde device overnight? Anyone else experience this? Should I return it?
Thank You!
Chris
chriss9 said:
I bought a Galaxy Tab 7 Plus on Friday and spent the weekend adding movies, music, etc..So far, I love the device.
Last night I set it on my desk with about 86% battery left but did not plug it in and did not turn it off. I simply let it sleep...
When I got up this AM, it was unresponsive as the batter had completely drained. I have no way of knowing why this happened since the device went off completelya nd any programs I may have left running were no longer running of course.
Is this normal for an unusde device overnight? Anyone else experience this? Should I return it?
Thank You!
Chris
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I suppose you also let the WiFi and BT run also ? If yes, then it's absolutely normal If no, you should check what apps you had running in the background... and as a golden rule : use the night to recharge and the day to use it.
Yes thanks. I did leave WiFi on but no BT. I typically do charge my devices overnight but just forgot last night so the batter drain was a little worrisome. I will try it again tonight without WiFi on and see if that makes a difference. Thank You!
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Yes thanks. I did leave WiFi on but no BT. I typically do charge my devices overnight but just forgot last night so the batter drain was a little worrisome. I will try it again tonight without WiFi on and see if that makes a difference. Thank You!
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You're welcome.. for the record : my Tab only drains 1 or max 2 % overnight, WiFi, sync etc disabled of course
Cheers
You are spot on my friend...I left it on my desk last night with 87% battery and when I woke up this AM it was at 86%. I feel much better now.
Thanks again!
Chris
dirlan2001 said:
You're welcome.. for the record : my Tab only drains 1 or max 2 % overnight, WiFi, sync etc disabled of course
Cheers
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hey dirlan , i booted overcome abd had battery issue , changed to hyperandromeda and still having batteryvdrain , how should i heal my battery ?
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hey dirlan , i booted overcome abd had battery issue , changed to hyperandromeda and still having batteryvdrain , how should i heal my battery ?
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Hi,
Not the slightest idea What apps are you running ? What is running in the background ? Basically, I've never heard about ABD having a battery issue, unless your battery is damaged somehow. Maybe you should try a battery-widget to check the system on battery-hogs and/or uninstall everything the reinstalling one by one testing battery lifetime.
Cheers
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my left my P6200 to charge like 5 hours but it still won't reach 100% full. its only close to 85%. I start charging it around 20%.
Device is off when charging.
any idea how long does it takes to fully charge it?
and another thing is the area around the Sim card and Memory card slots area heats up at the back cover quite easily when use.
anyone experience these?
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Hi,
my left my P6200 to charge like 5 hours but it still won't reach 100% full. its only close to 85%. I start charging it around 20%.
Device is off when charging.
any idea how long does it takes to fully charge it?
and another thing is the area around the Sim card and Memory card slots area heats up at the back cover quite easily when use.
anyone experience these?
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Wipe battery-stats ?
Hi all I read Qualcomm disabled quick charge because battery life, but I really hate long time charging and discharging with my use it's a nightmare, it's a kernel related afaik I'm using inert one coin rom in AT&T HTC one I tried faux kernel but isn't working, it's any way to enabled? Please? Thanks
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zen kun said:
Hi all I read Qualcomm disabled quick charge because battery life, but I really hate long time charging and discharging with my use it's a nightmare, it's a kernel related afaik I'm using inert one coin rom in AT&T HTC one I tried faux kernel but isn't working, it's any way to enabled? Please? Thanks
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I understand what you mean too, because I am trying to salvage the battery life as much as I can, meaning doing full cycle charge and discharge, but I find it hard to do so. Based on my usage, I will probably unplug it around at 60% from charging at 0% or 1%, because it takes so long to charge! So my routine now is to try charge it by switching off the phone when I sleep. It charges much faster when the phone is switched off, but of course defeats its purpose of having a smart phone to be able to receive push notifications, feeds, and emergency phone calls.
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I understand what you mean too, because I am trying to salvage the battery life as much as I can, meaning doing full cycle charge and discharge, but I find it hard to do so. Based on my usage, I will probably unplug it around at 60% from charging at 0% or 1%, because it takes so long to charge! So my routine now is to try charge it by switching off the phone when I sleep. It charges much faster when the phone is switched off, but of course defeats its purpose of having a smart phone to be able to receive push notifications, feeds, and emergency phone calls.
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The problem arises that you can't always use a wall charger and the few time you can, it's just little bit, that sucks, I use my car with waze or gmaps and seems battery down or maintain instead charge that's annoying I need a fix U.u
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zen kun said:
The problem arises that you can't always use a wall charger and the few time you can, it's just little bit, that sucks, I use my car with waze or gmaps and seems battery down or maintain instead charge that's annoying I need a fix U.u
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When I use mine with Google maps navigation in the car, I enable BT, start nav, and then shut off the screen. I find that my One charges in this situation, even while the GPS, NAV, and network access (Maps uses data to download the maps) are running. I don't need the video anyway, with the BT hooked up.
If I leave the screen on, it will not charge; it will maintain battery levels.
I should note that I have a 110v outlet in my car, and I'm using a stock HTC charger.
i too would also like to know if it's possible to enable quick charge on the One. it seems like the hardware is there but just purposely disabled. i can't believe it takes nearly 4 hours to fully charge the phone. those who don't care about leaving their phone plugged in overnight won't have a problem but that is also not a good idea. to date, this is probably my biggest complaint about the phone. supposedly htc claims they did this to increase the cycles of the battery but just about all other manufactures does the opposite so this doesn't seem to make any sense.
Qualcomm fast charge +1!
It is unacceptable that this phone doesn't have it. I have it on my HOXL and it is awesome, 1.5-2 hours for a full charge. Silly that it takes 3-4 hours to charge this phone.
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Qualcomm fast charge +1!
It is unacceptable that this phone doesn't have it. I have it on my HOXL and it is awesome, 1.5-2 hours for a full charge. Silly that it takes 3-4 hours to charge this phone.
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yeah but what happen when you are out? listen music, meanwhile you commute and you are all day without a charger its a pain in the ass really its my devices i should decide if i want "enable" fast charge, the Cognition rom suposse to enable fast charging in the kernel doing this:
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echo 1 > /sys/kernel/fast_charge/force_fast_charge
not sure if works since that rom lack many stuff that i like but i will try test if "charge" faster
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yeah but what happen when you are out? listen music, meanwhile you commute and you are all day without a charger its a pain in the ass really its my devices i should decide if i want "enable" fast charge, the Cognition rom suposse to enable fast charging in the kernel doing this:
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echo 1 > /sys/kernel/fast_charge/force_fast_charge
not sure if works since that rom lack many stuff that i like but i will try test if "charge" faster
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Like what? (genuinely curious)
Simba501 said:
Like what? (genuinely curious)
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first, its 4.1
no battery %
for me Lower screen brighness
its almost like stock!!!
zen kun said:
first, its 4.1
no battery %
for me Lower screen brighness
its almost like stock!!!
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Gotcha. I use the Modaco Toolkit to get the battery percentage.
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I understand what you mean too, because I am trying to salvage the battery life as much as I can, meaning doing full cycle charge and discharge, but I find it hard to do so. Based on my usage, I will probably unplug it around at 60% from charging at 0% or 1%, because it takes so long to charge! So my routine now is to try charge it by switching off the phone when I sleep. It charges much faster when the phone is switched off, but of course defeats its purpose of having a smart phone to be able to receive push notifications, feeds, and emergency phone calls.
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Full cycle charge and discharge (deep cycle) will kill the battery on your phone Li-Ion / Li-PO. Look it up.
Twin processor and twin batteries. The twin procs shows the time, but the accu does not. I want to toy little bit of this.
Twin proc power.
It just need an little bit peekin after fusions famous rom. Liittle bit peeking
It is pretty bricked. but things goes right!! I like this trin proc handheld
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Twin processor and twin batteries. The twin procs shows the time, but the accu does not. I want to toy little bit of this.
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what?
Exothermic said:
what?
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Just have problem with these batteries The cemistry of these is somewhat ...
I found one micro usb charger . it makes things more easy.
I have no video of this serial switched setup because my phone is my camera. but even it now boots. I continue to expirement within this
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Just have problem with these batteries The cemistry of these is somewhat ...
I found one micro usb charger . it makes things more easy.
I have no video of this serial switched setup because my phone is my camera. but even it now boots. I continue to expirement within this
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Just i like this handheld except its batteries.
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Just i like this handheld except its batteries.
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for example. just keeping it standby. it is like full charged after few days. full charged indicates this.
Ok. Take one call or do anything with it. the battery charge goes logaritmically to zero.
What you think?
KrRain said:
for example. just keeping it standby. it is like full charged after few days. full charged indicates this.
Ok. Take one call or do anything with it. the battery charge goes logaritmically to zero.
What you think?
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The battery shouldn't drain that quickly, something else is wrong; the battery might have dimineshed capacity to hold a charge, or you're experincing the 1 GHz bug (reboot with wifi off).
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The battery shouldn't drain that quickly, something else is wrong; the battery might have dimineshed capacity to hold a charge, or you're experincing the 1 GHz bug (reboot with wifi off).
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If you mean that cpus run at 1Ghz continuous these runs 200Mhz both I ssh logged to the fone. I think it is battery problem. I have two of this kinda of these: EB-FM7FLU . 1500mAh (hah!) Might be original. both batteries.
I use in several apps these batts, so I think how Li-Ion(Lions) work. Battery drains of course, but never just like this:
Full charge - do something - logarithmic drain to zero.
I need to call to the Samsung service (with my phone:d) and purchase !Li-Ion! accu for this
Said wrong an previos, never serial, but parallel. Serial switch kills the phone parallel does'nt sorry bad english
I try to flash Omni rom later some day.
Remove charger - go - answer a call. - battery dropdown.
Someone testet direct cable from transformers's secontary to handhelds pinouts?