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I just used the phone for half a day and thoroughly enjoy it. On first impression, the phone is very light for the size and they give nice accessories considering the price; earphones, screen protector, case. The phone have an RGB notification light.
Interface:
-The interface is not stock Android, it's more like a modified version of MIUI. It's very usable once you install your choice of stock launcher, replace the default keyboard, and disable some of the bloat apps.
-Since it's not stock Android, I find it take a bit of time to get used to finding things in the Settings menu.
-The swipe up hardware toggles (Control center, similar to iPhone toggles) are pretty useful and more well organized than stock Android imo.
-Screen off gestures, you get many different commands (double tap on, camera, flashlight, customize your own, etc) and it work pretty good.
-Feature to display network speed on the notification bar
-"Close all" button in the recent apps menu.
-There is a feature to modify apps permissions called "Permissions of App".
-I can not find the shortcut to "Smart Lock" window anywhere, even though it is supported in the OS, if you pair a bluetooth device it will display the notification to enable it. But there seems to be no way to get to the actual Smart Lock window to enable other smart lock features, or I miss it somewhere.
Performance:
I installed all my programs pretty quick. I don't see any lag issues. All the apps launches fast and run smoothly. I don't intend to play any heavy games on a $100 phone, all the light games I play like Subway Surfer and Horizon Chase have no lags.
Connection:
Cell: The dual sim feature seems to work good. I still have to to test the signal quality, but I have to say the data speed is average. I get about 10 to 12mbps down for T-Mobile LTE speed test.
Bluetooth: I'm happy to report the Bluetooth have good performance, the motion of people lips in videos are in synced with the audio from the bluetooth speaker.
WiFi: Can reach high speed, no problem.
GPS: No problem.
Storage:
There is a strange quirk with the phone which is by default your microSD is acts as the main 'internal storage' of the phone (sdcard0), and the actual internal storage act as external (sdcard1). So it would help if you use a fast microSD. I think this is because I have the microSD inserted the first time I set up the phone. Maybe this problem can be prevented by not inserting the microSD for the first time you boot up the phone. I don't know, but I'll just live with it.
Display:
The screen is very nice for a 5.5" 720p AMOLED display. It's not going to be sharp, but it the pixels are smooth so you don't get so much of that pixelation effect. Pretty much deep black, saturated colors and good viewing angles you expect from AMOLED. It's definitely not the brightest of display though, so you might have some problem under direct sunlight.
Camera: I haven't used it too much, but it's pretty average. Like all lower end camera, it have issue with under/over exposure, also the white balance is really off on auto mode. I like the manual mode that let you control the ISO and shutter speed. It's no where bad in good lighting condition, I'd say it takes good enough details for a budget phone.
Speaker: Very average, don't expect much here.
Charging: I used my Anker quick charger and it seems to charge the device fast and safely.
Ringtones selection:
The only thing I don't like is that if you have music in your phone, when you go to change the default ringtones, it will display every single songs in your phone and you have to scroll through it. The way to remedy this is to use the file manager in the phone and create a file called ".nomedia" in your music folder, so the phone will not recognize songs in it. Once you set your desired ringtone, you can remove that file. Or you can simply use a third party app to do the job.
Aside from some quirks, I honestly have no complaints so far, I would have no problem paying the full $150 for this device. I definitely like it better than the Moto G3, except that Motorola phones tends to have superior signals and call quality compared to most other brands. I definitely will not use this phone without a case though since it's on the light side.
Couple of things I noticed
1. The navigation buttons at the bottom (Home, Back & Option) does not have backlight. Not sure if there is a LED there that can be enabled in settings. I couldn't find any setting for that.
2. The data connection drops from 4G LTE to 'H' (HSPA) when on a call.
One of thing I notice about the Gallery app in this phone is there is an "Encrypt" option. If you press it accidentally it encrypt the file and move it into the "Pictures\.GallerySafe" folder. To access the encrypted photo, you have to "pinch outward" in the app.
No Smart Lock support: I tested and even though the smart lock feature turned on when you paired a bluetooth device, it actually doesn't work.
Here are some photo samples. The main problem are over exposure, white balance detection and some lost of saturation. The quality suffers when you're indoor with less lights.
https://goo.gl/photos/j9BrJ7gcbDCXBQgD6
The LED notification light seem like its set a ways under the glass and has this really bright shining affect versus a little glow other devices have.
I must say, the amoled screen on this is quite impressive for $100 phone..
wifi and data speeds are very similar compared to my oneplus 2 (both running Tmobile)
I noticed that the user cannot remove home screen icons. Like when you press and hold there's no option to remove the icon. Some apps show an option to uninstall. But for some pre installed apps there is no option to remove the icon.
Like Google chrome, opera browser, BLU help, amazon etc....
I don't want to uninstall the app, just remove from home screen.
Yea I noticed the LED light being very bright. I could read a book under that lighting.
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I noticed that the user cannot remove home screen icons. Like when you press and hold there's no option to remove the icon. Some apps show an option to uninstall. But for some pre installed apps there is no option to remove the icon.
Like Google chrome, opera browser, BLU help, amazon etc....
I don't want to uninstall the app, just remove from home screen.
Yea I noticed the LED light being very bright. I could read a book under that lighting.
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just use another launcher. google now, nova
eksasol said:
One of thing I notice about the Gallery app in this phone is there is an "Encrypt" option. If you press it accidentally it encrypt the file and move it into the "Pictures\.GallerySafe" folder. To access the encrypted photo, you have to "pinch outward" in the app.
No Smart Lock support: I tested and even though the smart lock feature turned on when you paired a bluetooth device, it actually doesn't work.
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The smart lock is really baffling. It prompts to turn on smart lock but never works after that.
tlxxxsracer said:
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thanks, that's what i finally did
so i found that there is an option on the desktop settings to 'hide' apps that you don't want to see on the desktop. it will hide the apps, with a password / pin. i'll post a guide later.
I've been using the Honor 5X a bit today so here is a comparison.
Things I prefer on the Vivo XL:
-This is a faster device. Everything about the Blu is more responsive and I don't think it's down to just the 720p display. It seems that this Mediatek CPU is actually pretty decent, games are smoother on it as well. In comparison, Honor 5X is slightly sluggy, not just in the interface, but in apps as well. This is probably due to the EMUI OS on the Honor 5X.
-Blu's UI is actually easier to understand and getting used to, especially if you're not accustomed to MIUI style interface on the Honor 5X.
-I'm not sure if it's due to the screen protector preinstalled on the Honor 5X, but the Blu touchscreen is a bit more sensitive and responsive to touch. Though it's not bad on the Honor 5X.
-The slide up "Control Panel" on the Blu is more useful with lots of options. Hate to admit it, but I prefer this slide up behavior more than Android's default because it's faster being close to your thumb. The notification toggles for the Honor 5X is missing a few options, but not a big deal.
-Blu is thinner and more light weight.
-The USB Type C connector is god sent.
-Removable battery.
Prefer on the 5X:
-Sharper screen that is very bright, its actually brighter than some highend flagship devices. The viewing angle isn't great however, but that is non-problem because it's a phone, not a TV.
-The camera is (only) slightly better. It have a bit more details and much better handle at white balance. Although the Blu camera's tap to focus is faster and more responsive. At this price range, it's not a big difference between the two phones.
-While their EMUI interface takes time to learn, it have some useful features, such as network control for apps. This let you disable data or wifi access for any apps you want, which is a very useful security feature.
-Very nice metal body.
-Finger print scanner, which I don't use.
It's a bit hard to choose which phone I would use as the daily driver. I think that if you go with the Blu, the software is good enough that you don't need to install custom roms. If you go with the Honor 5X, I believe you will need to install custom roms if you want the most out of the performance. I would have to pick the Blu Vivo XL as better value for the money, since it performs better for $50 less, and may last longer due to removable battery and USB Type C connector (more durable than microUSB). Also I like it when companies throw in free phone case and headphones, which is lacking in the Honor 5X packaging.
hamilLewiston said:
so i found that there is an option on the desktop settings to 'hide' apps that you don't want to see on the desktop. it will hide the apps, with a password / pin. i'll post a guide later.
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wheres the guide?
Thanks you for this app
1. The volume button and power button are too close together. The amount of times I went to reach the power button to turn off the display and accidentally took a screenshot by pressing power and volume down together.
2. The back is way too slippery. If the phone is on my bed and and leaning on the mattress slightly, the phone moves. Even just tapping the screen to navigate makes the phone slowly move away. Have to keep putting the case back on.
3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out.
4. Battery is good but not what I was expecting. Same as my Mate 9 battery life and yet I thought the Kirin 970 was 50% more efficient than the 960.
5. Wish camera had more slow motion speeds.
6. Persistent Android System notification but that's an Oreo thing and not a Huawei thing.
Having said all that I love this phone and it's the best phone I ever had.
Only had mine two days so more annoyances will probably come to light.
Agree about the power/volume button positioning.
Also since I've got a glass screen protector on it, it's a bit harder to access the sensor (have to press down into it) which is a bit annoying since it's my main means of navigating back and home as well as unlocking.
Infact the same sensor/button being used for both back (short press) and home (long press) is also awkward as I frequently do one when I mean to do the other.
Finally, it seems a bit complicated seemingly with multiple apps and settings for the same thing (though I am coming from Windows Mobile which might seem simpler as it didn't have many apps)
Agree great phone though (probably my best ever also)
I just got my mate 10 (alp-l29,black,4gb) from UAE.
1. Inability to theme notification/quick toggle area - stays black no matter what theme you apply. Looks out of place considering all notifications except spotify are light/white themed.
2.home button with 3 functions is not as easy to manage as I thought, but I will have to get used to it, since i aint giving away screen real estate and use on screen buttons on this monster.
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
Otherwise I love this phone. Its fast, lag free. Kinda fat, but in combo with the weight, I like how it sits in my hand.
For the first time I quible only about thickness. Anything over 8mm feels a little thick...
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3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out..
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Well to update my post, I just tried with a very thin pair of unlined black leather gloves I own and in fact the sensor button DOES work while gloved. So I can press it to go back and forth and navigate as usual. It does not work with fingerprint recognition apps/phone unlocking of course, but once you are in, they do work.
FYI they are a UK brand: Dents Extra Soft 3000 silk lined gloves but I ripped out the silk lining to make them unlined and for more flexibility and thinness and to work with the sensor. ?
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3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
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UPDATE.
I found a solution to this issue where none of the combinations of View Mode and Text Size settings give you ideally looking system, meaning not too large or not too tiny. At default everything looks to large IMO and they should done better on qhd 6.0” screen. If not by default, view mode needs 5 not 3 steps.
So far the best I got is with this combo of settings:
1. View Mode and Text Size at Small;
2. Dpi @392 (under Developer Settings).
With this settings I believe the text size and viewing area is appropriate for qhd 6” screen.
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action, sometimes it ends up detecting my swipe as a tap, and going back accidentally
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
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For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action,
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
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I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
snachez said:
I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
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Well that might be true if we are on home page,
But if we are still using an app, swiping up will only do scrolling :silly: , and the point of getting into recent screen is of course, for switching between app
Also,
I kinda expect by this time, huawei would already implement off screen gesture. At least for skipping song,
I mount my phone on my car center dash often, using maps and streaming spotify,
Without off screen gesture, its too troublesome, since i need to reach the phone while driving (not to mention its dangerous)
Because of this, now most of that job done by my Meizu Pro 7
They already implement "Knock & Draw" feature to launch app, so i dont see why they still cant get offscreen gesture
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Don't need that for Mate 10. Its one tap on fp to wake.
Hi. I don'l line che "twin app" that is no wotking with other launchers and there isn't a toggle to manage the duble sim (favorite ecc..)
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
windozeanti said:
Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
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I thought data limit is still there? In mobile data setting.
Or are we talking about different thing ?
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
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- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
Shady282 said:
- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
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The camera definitely isn't bad. But hasn't given me that wow factor. Especially in low light. Like I said I think after a couple software updates things will improve slot. No doubt the battery is good but could be better considering the Battery size
I've switched from One Plus 2 to Mate 10 and I think the Mate 10 could use some gestures,like hold home button to lock the phone etc. Right now, it's just pressing the power button to lock the phone. Bugs me.
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro. Besides, another thing that irks me is the fact that we can't mute the shutter sound in 3rd party apps even when you're in silent mode. Like if my phone is in silent mode and I want to send a pic using the whatsapp camera, i can't disable the sound.
focacciabread said:
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro.
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That's because the Mate 10 Pro has an OLED screen and white backgrounds consume more power, so they give you the option to use black backgrounds to save power. The standard Mate 10 has an LCD screen and white backgrounds be are not an issue.
The always on display which doesn't display any useful notifications is quite annoying.
Unlike other OEMs out there that use the in-display fingerprint scanner to just unlock the device, OnePlus actually gives you the ability to quickly launch other apps as well. That's just frigging amazing and I absolutely love it. You can check the full tutorial here - https://themrphone.com/article/oneplus-6t-quick-launch-apps-screen-unlock
Kind of a bummer that you still need to wake the display in the first place to actually use the in-display fingerprint scanner, but still, this is good nonetheless.
Nice, thanks for info.
Yes, completely agree that having to wake the display in the first place to actually use the in-display fingerprint scanner is a bit of a step back. Fingers crossed for a Magisk module!
tmobile version doesn't have this yet. just so everyone knows.
"Kind of a bummer that you still need to wake the display in the first place to actually use the in-display fingerprint scanner, but still, this is good nonetheless."
I think I'll be using the "touch to wake" option
hallo dare said:
Nice, thanks for info.
Yes, completely agree that having to wake the display in the first place to actually use the in-display fingerprint scanner is a bit of a step back. Fingers crossed for a Magisk module!
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The screen has to be woken in order to light your finger. UD readers use a camera behind the OLED panel to take a picture of your fingerprint, and the panel is what actually lights your finger for that shot. The only compromise I could see would be something to keep the rest of the screen dim/blank and only activate the fingerprint area, but it'll still require you to wake the screen.
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The screen has to be woken in order to light your finger. UD readers use a camera behind the OLED panel to take a picture of your fingerprint, and the panel is what actually lights your finger for that shot. The only compromise I could see would be something to keep the rest of the screen dim/blank and only activate the fingerprint area, but it'll still require you to wake the screen.
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Yeah, aod is probably something that can do the job at the lowest acceptable lighting requirement to read the FP.
My "Settings" app carashes when I try to enter on that menu (quick launch)... What should I do?
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Yeah, aod is probably something that can do the job at the lowest acceptable lighting requirement to read the FP.
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When you touch the fingerprint reader area the pixels behind it light up to 100% brightness in order to illuminate your finger.
The "tap to wake" feature already available pretty much solves this "problem". You simply press your finger onto the "off" display in the place where the fingerprint reader is located (easy to do after some practice) and the display turns on, fignerprint scanner illuminates and reads your finger which then unlocks the phone.
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Yeah, aod is probably something that can do the job at the lowest acceptable lighting requirement to read the FP.
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I do hope they tweak how bright the screen has to be, but from all I've read, those pixels have to be at full blast to get an accurate read on the fingerprint., so they probably need to at the very least need to regionally brighten that area of the screen fully on the ambient screen. Someone out there more clever than I will surely figure it out in a way that doesn't compromise security. Hoping it's OnePlus, but we've got an incredible community that can take a swing at it too!
Mine do not have any such feature..
Though the feature is cool I am not happy with the experience. It's not smooth, it shows pattern input screen for a while before showing quick launch menu.
Also the home screen/last app screen before the quick launch and the vibrations (too intense) are also bummer
What version of OxygenOS are you on? I'm on 9.0.3 and I don't seem to have the Quick Launch option?!
Dannyele said:
My "Settings" app carashes when I try to enter on that menu (quick launch)... What should I do?
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Wait for a fix, I reported this as a bug @ oneplus bughunters. :good:
Huigie said:
Wait for a fix, I reported this as a bug @ oneplus bughunters. :good:
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Hello mate!
I've already solved this by enabling the apps that I disabled before (like Google Pay, Google Music/Video and a few others). Then, once the quick launch worked, I disabled again those apps. :good:
still waiting for 9.0.4 to have this
raing said:
tmobile version doesn't have this yet. just so everyone knows.
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TMO variant is missing quite a few other things, to be precise
Dannyele said:
My "Settings" app carashes when I try to enter on that menu (quick launch)... What should I do?
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by default, the quick launch is set to open a few google apps preinstalled on the device.
If you disabled/removed some of them, but didn't remove them on the quick launch list before that, then it's going to crash every time you open the quick launch setting.
Enable every default app and try again, if it still doesn't work then factory reset and next time remember to remove all apps in this setting before disabling them.
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That's why I keep going back to the intl firmware. Quick launch and OnePlus lab. Phone feels much more premium and snappy with intl
me i like to see
fingerprint scanner were u just touch the screen for it to unlock (like in xioami mi9)
a better camera
phone dailer like google phone
better option for notification light were u can choose colors sec for info an so on
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me i like to see
fingerprint scanner were u just touch the screen for it to unlock (like in xioami mi9)
a better camera
phone dailer like google phone
better option for notification light were u can choose colors sec for info an so on
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How else do you unlock it at the moment ? It has always been touch screen to unlock. Turn on ambient display for single touch to wake or enable double tap to wake and scan fingerprint.
Yeah , camera definitely could be better with the current hardware it has.
Google phone app can be installed via flashing the Google Dialer Framework magisk module
There's no better option because there's no option at the moment Hoping for a real always on display implementation. That would be great.
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How else do you unlock it at the moment ? It has always been touch screen to unlock. Turn on ambient display for single touch to wake or enable double tap to wake and scan fingerprint.
Yeah , camera definitely could be better with the current hardware it has.
Google phone app can be installed via flashing the Google Dialer Framework magisk module
There's no better option because there's no option at the moment Hoping for a real always on display implementation. That would be great.
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yes i know that 1 touch then fingerprint
mi9 is just touch an it unlock
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yes i know that 1 touch then fingerprint
mi9 is just touch an it unlock
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Ah yes, direct unlock would be nice. Most china phones have them.
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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It is hard to believe that miui is having these many issues/bugs...only custom ROMs can save.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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I'm also having almost all problems you mentioned.
Redmi note 10 pro (sweetin)
MIUI global 12.0.6.0 stable
Bootloader locked
MIUI have sooo many bugs. I will wait for 12.0.8 update. If bugs are fixed I will wait further for 12.5 update, else will install custom rom and will say final goodbye to MIUI
crazyguyrohan said:
I'm also having almost all problems you mentioned.
Redmi note 10 pro (sweetin)
MIUI global 12.0.6.0 stable
Bootloader locked
MIUI have sooo many bugs. I will wait for 12.0.8 update. If bugs are fixed I will wait further for 12.5 update, else will install custom rom and will say final goodbye to MIUI
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I'm on sweetinpro 12.0.6.0/12.0.8.0 on Stock with locked Bootloader. It's so frustrating that they haven't fixed trivial issues in the ROM and removed fundamental features.
I'm not having any of the mentioned issues here on my redmi note 10 pro 6/128GB sweetpro, bootloader locked. I disabled MIUI optimization right of the bat, and debloated all the xiaomi crap with this tool . I was running the latest MIUI global 12.0.10 and just updated today to MIUI 12.0.13 RKFEUXM. Still no issues. Also my battery is pretty fine, more than a day and I am heavy user (and gamer)
Regarding some of the issues (I have Redmi Note 10 Pro with global MIUI 12.0.10):
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
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Touch responsivenes does behave strange and fails sometimes. I haven't noticed any stuttering though, the 730G works pretty well for me.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
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This is very annoying and definitly needs to get fixed asap. Some notificaciones are really messed up, like chat notifications that pop up showing a different person (wrong profile and name, happens on whatsapp and Telegram).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
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Mine works fine.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
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After a full day I still have 50% battery, so no problem on mine.
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
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Just tested and it worked with 1 tap.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
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Unfortunately I bet Xiaomi did this on purpose to keep Always On Display away from the low-mid end phones, just like the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
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You mean the NFC icon in control center? I mine was just not enabled. It can be enabled with the "edit" function on the control center.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
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Mine do pop up. Try disabling MIUI optimization for these apps, it's what I did.
TotallyNotAPigeon said:
Regarding some of the issues (I have Redmi Note 10 Pro with global MIUI 12.0.10):
Touch responsivenes does behave strange and fails sometimes. I haven't noticed any stuttering though, the 730G works pretty well for me.
This is very annoying and definitly needs to get fixed asap. Some notificaciones are really messed up, like chat notifications that pop up showing a different person (wrong profile and name, happens on whatsapp and Telegram).
Mine works fine.
After a full day I still have 50% battery, so no problem on mine.
Just tested and it worked with 1 tap.
Unfortunately I bet Xiaomi did this on purpose to keep Always On Display away from the low-mid end phones, just like the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
You mean the NFC icon in control center? I mine was just not enabled. It can be enabled with the "edit" function on the control center.
Mine do pop up. Try disabling MIUI optimization for these apps, it's what I did.
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Turns out, all the problems I've mentioned are specifically with the Indian version of the Global ROM. We're at 12.0.6.0/12.0.8.0, and they've also removed the option to "disable MIUI Optimazations" from the developer menu. It now requires specifically resetting developer options.
You are correct about disabling MIUI optimization. My advice is don't touch it at all, not even once. I always find that down the road weird things will happen to my phone. Perhaps some problems that you are having, were the result of disabling it, even though you've turned it back on now. If it was me, I'd go for a factory data reset and see what happens.
ushgaga said:
You are correct about disabling MIUI optimization. My advice is don't touch it at all, not even once. I always find that down the road weird things will happen to my phone. Perhaps some problems that you are having, were the result of disabling it, even though you've turned it back on now. If it was me, I'd go for a factory data reset and see what happens.
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Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
Almost all the issues that OP stated in his post are true, it also happens to my unit which is the Indonesian unit with MIUI 12.0.4.0.
The most annoying one is the WA & Telegram notification issue, not only they messed up in order but the Action button is also misaligned. Seems like Xiaomi's dev team is not aware of this issue at all. Pretty unprofessional, however, this is what we deserved by buying a Xiaomi phone.
Due to all of these issues which I'm not confident will be solved in a timely manner by their dev team, I already made a post in my local adboard to sell my 1 week old RN 10 Pro and I will just buy the Samsung device again.
ushgaga said:
Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
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You can turn it on after installing ytvanced. Everything is working as it should except vanced pip which I cant seem to activate in gesture navigation
Ratti1999 said:
You can turn it on after installing ytvanced. Everything is working as it should except vanced pip which I cant seem to activate in gesture navigation
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Yepp, I installed Vanced and enabled MIUI optimization ( I needed of for files uploading). Vanced is working great. I am using navigation buttons as I am not huge fan of gestures.
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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ushgaga said:
Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
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For YTVanced, just go to the old versions page in the download site of vancedapp.com.
Then manually download the microg for "14.21.54 and above" and install it. MIUI will allow this version to be installed. Then I downloaded YTVanced 14.21.54 and installed and using it.
The only reason I wanted to turn off MIUI optimizations is to install YTVanced, but since this method works, I don't mind anymore.
I know MIUI "optimizations" is a real PITA, but so far there seems to be workarounds for some of the shortcomings.
Once official stable custom roms are available, I'll flash to these. Right now there are 3 custom roms available, but these are newly released. Need to wait and see if others have problems or not. Once the roms are matured enough, then will be worth to migrate.
P.S. - Using Sweet Global 8/128.
motherninja said:
Due to all of these issues which I'm not confident will be solved in a timely manner by their dev team, I already made a post in my local adboard to sell my 1 week old RN 10 Pro and I will just buy the Samsung device again.
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No need to take drastic measures.
Xiaomi is actually rooter-friendly. They allow official bootloader-unlocking, although the process takes long.
Their phones, especially the Redmi Note series are some of the best value phones you can ever find.
This is more true with this Note 10 Pro. I mean it's using Amoled and 120Hz screen with 8GB RAM and 128GB ROM wirh NFC, 3.5" jack, IR, FM radio and a huge battery. Even other more expensive flagships don't have all at one place. And the combination of features are only available in higher end flagships of other phones which cost so much more.
And let's not forget Samsung's notorious Knox counter. Even wirh Magisk Hide, some bank apps look for this counter and you can't use a rooted phone with bank apps and some other telco-apps. They look for this Knox-counter trips.
Xiaomi community is very active. There are already 3 custom roms available for Sweet. And there will be many to come. So you can already try these new roms and get rid of MIUI "optimizations" completely.
For me, i am waiting for the roms to get ironed out from it's new beginnings and let them mature with any fixes before I change my ROM. Need to make sure everything works properly before jumping ship.
amgreenhawk said:
No need to take drastic measures.
Xiaomi is actually rooter-friendly. They allow official bootloader-unlocking, although the process takes long.
Their phones, especially the Redmi Note series are some of the best value phones you can ever find.
This is more true with this Note 10 Pro. I mean it's using Amoled and 120Hz screen with 8GB RAM and 128GB ROM wirh NFC, 3.5" jack, IR, FM radio and a huge battery. Even other more expensive flagships don't have all at one place. And the combination of features are only available in higher end flagships of other phones which cost so much more.
And let's not forget Samsung's notorious Knox counter. Even wirh Magisk Hide, some bank apps look for this counter and you can't use a rooted phone with bank apps and some other telco-apps. They look for this Knox-counter trips.
Xiaomi community is very active. There are already 3 custom roms available for Sweet. And there will be many to come. So you can already try these new roms and get rid of MIUI "optimizations" completely.
For me, i am waiting for the roms to get ironed out from it's new beginnings and let them mature with any fixes before I change my ROM. Need to make sure everything works properly before jumping ship.
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By the time I make that post a few weeks ago, my Sweet has been sold in only 1 hour since the ad went online. Currently, I'm back with the Samsung bandwagon (I bought the brand new A52 LTE) and really really happy with it With this great midrange, I did not miss anything from my previous Samsung phone, the S10.
I agree with you, Xiaomi makes good phones with unbeatable hardware specs to performance ratio, but this is the software that we will interact every day with, not the underlying hardware.
Gone are the days I spent countless hours trying every custom ROM available in our beloved XDA forums, now I just want the phone that just works without any major or annoying issue.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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I wanna install third party apk it's safe from disable miui optimization and re enable it (just disable for install the apk)
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Please how can I disable MIUI optimization? I'm using Redmi note 10 pro 128/8
YTVanced is working with activated optimization on my Redmi Note 10pro SKFEUXM13.0.15.0
Bootloader locked, not rooted.