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S5 battery life sucks. gpsd task

Hi there,
I wanted to check if there is any solution to the ****ty battery life the S5 have. I don't know why Samsung talks **** about iPhone if they can't have a good battery life without the U saving mode.
I've tried everything even turned GPS off. Disabled Samsung remote location. Please help.
I used to achieve 14 hours on my nexus 5... Yes the N5, come on!

That's rough my battery usually lasts me 14 hours ish

JamesIsNinja said:
That's rough my battery usually lasts me 14 hours ish
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How many % the gpsd task shows in yours? Also is it the G900H?

Mine one lasts for 1 complete day with 4g on most of the time.. Screen time is around 4 to 5 hours

If you're coming here to find a solution then use a program to diagnose the issue like wakelock detector or better battery stats. This post lacks information and does not allow us to help you.

you can try to download wake lock detector or better battery stats from the play store to monitor your battery usage

danfalcas said:
Hi there,
I wanted to check if there is any solution to the ****ty battery life the S5 have. I don't know why Samsung talks **** about iPhone if they can't have a good battery life without the U saving mode.
I've tried everything even turned GPS off. Disabled Samsung remote location. Please help.
I used to achieve 14 hours on my nexus 5... Yes the N5, come on!
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Your problem might be due to any of these 2 reasons
1 app that uses the network is misbehaving
If this is the case than Uninstalling the misbehaving app.
2 the radio control interface
Sometimes the signal from Tower is not that good in your area so setting the network settings to AUTO mode, the phone keeps switching between GSM, WCDMA AND LTE. try setting your phone to GSM ONLY or WCDMA ONLY. it will most probably solve the issue.

Hahaha. I can't believe to see this post. That's the problem dude. I've 5-6 sot on TW with usage all day long, data all the time. And I got 5 sot on cm. Believe me as heavy user here ?
from SM-G900F / SM-N9005

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Hellscythe said:
If you're coming here to find a solution then use a program to diagnose the issue like wakelock detector or better battery stats. This post lacks information and does not allow us to help you.
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Ok I will use the wake lock app today the whole day. At the end of the day will post the results. Also I will make the suggested changes to the network to see if it helps. Thanks. Will post the results in 10-12 hours.

what rom or you running? stock samsung?
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Ok I will use the wake lock app today the whole day. At the end of the day will post the results. Also I will make the suggested changes to the network to see if it helps. Thanks. Will post the results in 10-12 hours.
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my battery lasts almost a day each time..

Omri76 said:
my battery lasts almost a day each time..
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Stock samsung, no root. I flashed the factory image to see if that helped. But no. I cannot use battery tracker apps cause no root :/
I think I will go for a LG G3, not even the SGS4 running stock samsung firmware drained the battery this much.

danfalcas said:
Stock samsung, no root. I flashed the factory image to see if that helped. But no. I cannot use battery tracker apps cause no root :/
I think I will go for a LG G3, not even the SGS4 running stock samsung firmware drained the battery this much.
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Model:?which model are you using?)
ROM:? (which build?)
Any Recent Changes:? (have u installled anything recently)
How often do you use device: ? (how many hours per day do you do certain tasks)
they key to asking for help is offering enough information for us to assist you
posting in the correct forum may have helped too mind you

-PiLoT- said:
Model:?which model are you using?)
ROM:? (which build?)
Any Recent Changes:? (have u installled anything recently)
How often do you use device: ? (how many hours per day do you do certain tasks)
they key to asking for help is offering enough information for us to assist you
posting in the correct forum may have helped too mind you
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Model: SM-G900H (Sucks not to have the snapdragon)
ROM: KOT49H.G900HXXU1ANG3
Any Recent Changes: No, using the same apps since Nexus 5. I had Nexus 5 then a Note 3 then an S3 mini then a Note then a Nexus 4 then an S4, running the same apps no issue with this.
How often do you use device: I am at work, so I use mostly for whatsapp, and at lunch to check the social networks.
I have great signal from the network, and I always use my phones with everything on except the bluetooth, I have never had this issue. I left the phone one day on stand by, and it only held the battery for 11hours, with 20minutes of on screen use. And the GPSD task was the only one that was using the battery.
What I've done so far:
I turned samsung remote location off
Factory reset
Removed google location services
Disabled all the apps that uses location like twitter or facebook
Turned the GPS off
Root the device and deleted all samsung apps (the ones that can be unisntalled)
Use the GPS on Low battery usage
Disabled the pedometer
Nothing seems to work.
I am not a really Samsung fan, but I was giving a try to the S5 because the water resistant thing, but if my S3 mini can hold up more battery than this device, for me its a crap. More if they make a lot of fun of apple iphone, and the battery life of the S5 is WORST!

danfalcas said:
Model: SM-G900H (Sucks not to have the snapdragon)
ROM: KOT49H.G900HXXU1ANG3
Any Recent Changes: No, using the same apps since Nexus 5. I had Nexus 5 then a Note 3 then an S3 mini then a Note then a Nexus 4 then an S4, running the same apps no issue with this.
How often do you use device: I am at work, so I use mostly for whatsapp, and at lunch to check the social networks.
I have great signal from the network, and I always use my phones with everything on except the bluetooth, I have never had this issue. I left the phone one day on stand by, and it only held the battery for 11hours, with 20minutes of on screen use. And the GPSD task was the only one that was using the battery.
What I've done so far:
I turned samsung remote location off
Factory reset
Removed google location services
Disabled all the apps that uses location like twitter or facebook
Turned the GPS off
Root the device and deleted all samsung apps (the ones that can be unisntalled)
Use the GPS on Low battery usage
Disabled the pedometer
Nothing seems to work.
I am not a really Samsung fan, but I was giving a try to the S5 because the water resistant thing, but if my S3 mini can hold up more battery than this device, for me its a crap. More if they make a lot of fun of apple iphone, and the battery life of the S5 is WORST!
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Id have a shot at using the debloater. its in the dev forums afaik.

My stock S5.. only changed from "Dalvick" to "Art" and using Greenify for the wakelocks.
Sent from my SM-G900F.

basboy33 said:
My stock S5.. only changed from "Dalvick" to "Art" and using Greenify for the wakelocks.
Sent from my SM-G900F.
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Didn't knew we could change to ART in the S5! Already rebooting to ART, I hope this give me at least 14 hours of battery life! :good: Thanks.
I'll let you know what happened.
I can tell the results tomorrow night when I get home after work to check if the battery life is awesome now.

Definitely some app misbehaving there. I never switch anything of - sync, wifi, GPS always on. On average 6-7 hours screen time. If doing low cpu tasks like reading a book I have got to 12 hours screen.
Worth doing a root and see what the problem is.

Okey! Well i tested the ART for two days now and got no problems so far.
Got WiFi, Bluetooth, Sync, 3G and Location on.
I hope the ART works for you, let me know.
Sent from my SM-G900F using XDA Free mobile app

danfalcas said:
Didn't knew we could change to ART in the S5! Already rebooting to ART, I hope this give me at least 14 hours of battery life! :good: Thanks.
I'll let you know what happened.
I can tell the results tomorrow night when I get home after work to check if the battery life is awesome now.
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basboy33 said:
Okey! Well i tested the ART for two days now and got no problems so far.
Got WiFi, Bluetooth, Sync, 3G and Location on.
I hope the ART works for you, let me know.
Sent from my SM-G900F using XDA Free mobile app
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I doubt that an unstable runtime will make your battery better. Check my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55250809&postcount=1309
Using a custom kernel and with a few apps frozen I get this awesomeness.
Enviado do meu Galaxy S5

basboy33 said:
My stock S5.. only changed from "Dalvick" to "Art" and using Greenify for the wakelocks.
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@basboy33 THANKS, ART seems to solved the issue, I have to wait until tomorrow to say that this really solved my ****ty battery life issue :laugh: hopefully it did!
gpsd = gps dalvik, is not draining my battery this far.
I will report the full battery life tomorrow, with screenshot, to check if this is really the solution for stock S5 it appears to be.

[Q] will the T-Mobile version be rootable

I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security

CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess

susy1990 said:
Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
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yep i hope its that easy lol

i'm going to guess the bootloader is locked like the s7 edge. hopefully it's not too long before we have a exploit to root.

CheesyNutz said:
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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It's called KNOX, also you don't need root to remove bloat on android 5+. Some will argue for space purposes but the system parition is just that, chances are if you simply cannot uninstall and you have to disable, then the application resides in the system parition. Deleting app in the system partion creates no more useable user space.
As far as Knox, what makes you want to remove it?

I'm waiting to see before buying

With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....

clockedtouch said:
With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
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The golden question is, is there a back door to the iron gates of KNOX? On the front end it can be encrypted to the moon and back, but if there is a back door, it's pointless. Also with finger print scanners and the iris scanner. What a convenient way to capture personal data. Let the people do the work for them...brilliant.
I'm curious to hear what Dev's that know the in's and out's of the software have to say about this...The only way we'd be able to know for sure is if it was fully open source to be able to see any hidden doors and where they exist.
Just saying...
Oh and I do hope someone finds an exploit to be able to stably root.

I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality

Amd4life said:
I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
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So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......

clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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xposed installer that's one

Kind of crazy to decide to buy or not buy a phone because of an ap that doesn't even come installed on the phone. IN any event, if ROOT is found for the Note 7 - then you can install Xposed)
Chances are very high that the US Varients of the Note 7 are all going to be locked. I will be shocked if TMOBILE does not lock down the Note 7 like they did on the S7 (well if you listen to TMOBILE they say Samsung locked it - not tmobile) whatever, my bet is it is going to be locked.
In any event, the Note 7 is going to be a beast of a phone - just like the S7 Edge -BUT, not much different than the 7 Edge - a little larger - slightly better camera - S Pen of course - but otherwise, not a whole lot different - that is probably the main reason why I am struggling with whether to buy or not - I played with one at Best Buy the other day and I like the feel of Note 7 a lot - the curved screen is slightly different than the S7 Edge - but it still looks amazing - not sure what I am going to do.....we'll see....I love new toys - for that reason alone, I will probably end up getting it - but still havent made a final decision....I will NOT buy a pre-order like I have done with every other phone since the note 2 - I got burned when the S7 Edge turned out to be locked and I am not going to risk that again ...we'll find out soon enough...

Yea it sure is a toss up at this point and Samsung if you are listening, you are not doing yourself a favor for locking boot loaders. You don't have to worry about anything, because you'll still make the sales off of the majority who don't care about unlocked BL's, but one thing that you do have to understated is that although the phone enthusiasts may make up a small percentage, we are the ones who are responsible for making up the foundation of the phone customizing culture. You are on the edge and about to lower yourself into the apple territory. Don't do that.

S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?

vibrantliker said:
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
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They are rooted at the moment...
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app

Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...

mister_propa said:
xposed installer that's one
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Xposed is hardly a reason to make the low fruit argument of it might as well be an apple if you can't root it. The fact that I can upload whatever files I want, I can OTG connect keyboards, mice, thumbdrives, expandable memory was brought back, replacement launchers, I can install apps outside of the market, disabled built in software, change what app handles your messages.
Inherently there is so much more flexibility in android. You could drop android back two version numbers and functionality still holds its own against iOS today
All that happens before root.
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coretech said:
Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
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If its like the Note 5 when it comes to root (if you can) then it will only kill Samsung Pay. Of course there were other devices (S5/6?) that lost finger print scanning because of the root method. We kind of just have to wait and see.

bajasur said:
They are rooted at the moment...
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
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I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)

clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR:
Root is a requirement in my eyes.

vibrantliker said:
I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
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Andrew S.S. said:
I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR: I need root! I cannot live without it and unless you taste and eat the delicious glory(root) as much as I do, you wouldn't understand.
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
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Listing all the things you can do with root is great but my gripe is the claim of "It might as well be an iPhone" when you can't root it. Thats a very low energy argument.

Will Package Disabler Apps work on Note 8?

I have been seeing that apps like Package Disabler have been struggling to get around disabling packages with latest updates from samsung. Many users on the Play store keep complaining it doesn't work. Will the latest software of Note 8 work with package disabling? What about AdHell? is it as good a disabler like Package and BK?

Works fine in s8 plus. Perfect way to disable sh*tby totally.

ekerbuddyeker said:
Works fine in s8 plus. Perfect way to disable sh*tby totally.
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Can the Bixby button be used for something else if it is disabled.

StevePritchard said:
Can the Bixby button be used for something else if it is disabled.
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Yes there are a few different apps for remapping the Bixby key or if you root you can do it yourself manually too.
Check in the s8 themes and apps section on XDA or just wait and they'll come to this one too.
However I like Bixby, it's quite helpful and saves me time

MrAshMan said:
Yes there are a few different apps for remapping the Bixby key or if you root you can do it yourself manually too.
Check in the s8 themes and apps section on XDA or just wait and they'll come to this one too.
However I like Bixby, it's quite helpful and saves me time
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I'm not planning on rooting, just disabling any unnecessary packages. I'm pretty happy with the Google assistant, and think that's likely to be superior to Bixby.

StevePritchard said:
I'm not planning on rooting, just disabling any unnecessary packages. I'm pretty happy with the Google assistant, and think that's likely to be superior to Bixby.
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The apps have non root options available so you should be good to go with those.

package disable doesnt work all the time. Its a known fact.
Samsung has told the dev to change some thing so it doesnt work.
I had it install on my phone and work great. Then one day i went to add another app to the list and the program wouldnt load.
So i uninstalled it and reinstalled it. Then got an error 102. Contacted the dev and he said it was samsungs fault and if im getting that error to uninstall and ask for a refund.
So with all that being said i doubt it will work on the note 8. I hope it does since i like to block ota updates but we will see what happens.

xile6 said:
package disable doesnt work all the time. Its a known fact.
Samsung has told the dev to change some thing so it doesnt work.
I had it install on my phone and work great. Then one day i went to add another app to the list and the program wouldnt load.
So i uninstalled it and reinstalled it. Then got an error 102. Contacted the dev and he said it was samsungs fault and if im getting that error to uninstall and ask for a refund.
So with all that being said i doubt it will work on the note 8. I hope it does since i like to block ota updates but we will see what happens.
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Curious what phone your currently using. My co worker just got the S8 and contacted the dev. The dev replied almost immediately with a link to the newest version that was not fully released yet. He hasn't had a problem since. That was this past week.

PDP Pro is working fine on my Note 4. That is an older phone that is on Marshmallow. It works well. I took a look at what was installed on the Verizon variant when I was in the Verizon store today and there was not much on it. Much, much less than what they installed on my Note 4. Does anyone know if they just put less on the model phones in the stores, or will there really be that little junk on the phone?

jselden said:
Curious what phone your currently using. My co worker just got the S8 and contacted the dev. The dev replied almost immediately with a link to the newest version that was not fully released yet. He hasn't had a problem since. That was this past week.
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Tmobile s8+ The dev email me back within 5 mins and said if i got that error to ask for a refund and it wouldnt work. This was about 2 weeks ago.
But as said the app work when i first got my s8+ and installed it. but then i went to open it and it didnt open so uninstalled and reinstalled and it didnt work any more.

I'm sure they will work, some work better then others. the Bixby button is something that a lot of people don't really care for so if there is a way to remap/disable it, a post will be up fairly quick.

varun.gid said:
I have been seeing that apps like Package Disabler have been struggling to get around disabling packages with latest updates from samsung. Many users on the Play store keep complaining it doesn't work. Will the latest software of Note 8 work with package disabling? What about AdHell? is it as good a disabler like Package and BK?
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it would be nice if they support they note 8 given the nasty they did to their customers when they caved to samsung and modified their app to let the stupid battery cap updates go thru on the note 7.
dear policedeveloper: that really sucked and you are gonna have to come back from that nasty deed. until you redeem yourselves, developer = police.

serusaert said:
it would be nice if they support they note 8 given the nasty they did to their customers when they caved to samsung and modified their app to let the stupid battery cap updates go thru on the note 7.
dear policedeveloper: that really sucked and you are gonna have to come back from that nasty deed. until you redeem yourselves, developer = police.
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Sorry, can't agree with this. Their decision to side with Samsung on this was good business sense. Had any customer using it been "lit up" by a faulty battery while the installation of the update was blocked by PD, they'd have been wide open to a lawsuit regardless of what the license agreement said.

Dodge DeBoulet said:
Sorry, can't agree with this. Their decision to side with Samsung on this was good business sense. Had any customer using it been "lit up" by a faulty battery while the installation of the update was blocked by PD, they'd have been wide open to a lawsuit regardless of what the license agreement said.
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i agree that this is the case but all the same i remember when it happened and was annoyed - i planned, as i have done, to use the note 7 for as long as i could and i was incensed at the attempts to hobble it and end those plans prematurely.
luckily i dodged this (and the others) and got a lot of good use out of it as a tablet. it totally rocked as a backup telecommute device or when on the go. the s-pen is what makes it work. remote desktop on windows 10 is actually pretty functional for coding. and this is a phone i just sold for $380. i can't complain about how it ended up but, yeah, i was a bit upset that these devs were assisting the attempts to hobble it.
i can't wait to try to work using the note 8. i checked one out in best buy yesterday and, tho intimidated by the size (that sounds wrong), i have high hopes for how it will perform as a telecommuting device.

Root is mandatory for me, is it for you?

I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.

wing_addict_usa said:
I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
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ALL the LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can be rooted. You might need to stick with that for now.
ROOT FOR T-MOBILE H932 V30/V30+
ROOT FOR ALL OTHER V30/V30+/V30S

Yup, I'm on the same boat.

Me too.

I have the S8+ TMO. And when the v40 thinq comes out I plan to go back to LG. It's no fun without root. I miss A.R.I.S.E., being able to debloat my rom, trying out kernels, and changing my fonts to abeatbykai. Sigh.....I miss those days!

If we get Root for the LG V40 ThinQ then do you think there would be good developer support?
As an alternative, Im looking at the Pixel 3 XL, but would prefer to have the 3.5mm jack and sd card support.

For me is highly recommended. With LG and the implementation of the quad dacs I think having root may help with triggering high impedance mode. I'd still be using my V30 today if I would have bought an unlocked version off the bat instead of TMO. This was back in the day when root wasn't available for the TMO but the unlocked version had it in like a week or so. I'm dumping my Pixel 2 XL which has root for the unlocked version of the LG V40.
On a side note the guys at my local TMO allowed me to play with their demo of the V40! Loved it! The screen was awesome, like it's just all screen no bezels. not sure about the headphone jack being on the bottom this time around but we'll see how it goes. Holding it got me super excited about the phone.

rooting is a waste of time so no.

I don't care about root anymore. This isn't an LG G2X that needs root. Phones have come a long way

If this phone gets to be as easily unlockable as a Nexus/Pixel, I'd be willing to consider getting it to replace my 6P.

No root = no development = no custom ROM
Look at the most recent models sections. There's no more development section.
No root = you won't be able to remove pre installed spyware
Is it bad enough?!

mingkee said:
No root = no development = no custom ROM
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So, what?
Exactly what for do you need custom ROM in nowadays?
It was a toy like 3-5 years ago but now with Google Pay and 6Gb RAM in phones custom ROMs are legacy and unneeded thing. Forgot the proper word
mingkee said:
No root = you won't be able to remove pre installed spyware
Is it bad enough?!
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Yes, you can remove. Most spyware can be disabled straightly from the settings/apps info menu. Those that can't from menu, can be uninstalled by adb from PC or with means of LG Package Disabler. So, no hassle

These days I even use the LG launcher(after enabling the app drawer)
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore ?*

wing_addict_usa said:
I won't buy without root. Skipped the note 9, let's hope the v40 has a nice root.
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ALL the LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can be rooted. You might need to stick with that for now.
ROOT FOR T-MOBILE H932 V30/V30+
ROOT FOR ALL OTHER V30/V30+/V30S
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Jericksen92 said:
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore.
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First, there is functionality to rooting even just on stock firmware. On the V30/V30+/V30S you can enable High Impedance Mode (HIM) on the Quad DAC without LG''s "permission" (which needs 50 ohms or higher headsets). You can also enable "dual speaker" mode. (The mods on that thread is more advanced than the original HIM mod, same developer.) There's plenty of other root-required mods that add functionality, like silent camera files. I'm just comparing the V30 to the V40, because it's the direct successor from a year ago and we DO have root on all V30 variants.
For root in general, I've long used a time sync app and scheduled Auto Reboot (so my phone starts "fresh" every day). Whether you want those things is your decision. But it's YOUR phone, so you can do what you want.
Which leads me to my most important point. OWNERSHIP. With root, it's YOUR phone, not the carrier, not the OEM. It's just like being administrator of your computer at home. Any computer I buy, I will have "admin" privileges. Smartphones are simply handheld computers. A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones. Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone. People thought they had BOUGHT those Note 7 phones, but this proved Samsung still OWNED all those Galaxy Note 7 phones. The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted. Those people who were rooted really owned their phones, not Samsung.
Until your phone is rooted, you do not own it. You are merely "renting"/leasing it from the real owner -- the carrier/OEM.

Billy Madison said:
So, what?
Exactly what for do you need custom ROM in nowadays?
It was a toy like 3-5 years ago but now with Google Pay and 6Gb RAM in phones custom ROMs are legacy and unneeded thing. Forgot the proper word
Yes, you can remove. Most spyware can be disabled straightly from the settings/apps info menu. Those that can't from menu, can be uninstalled by adb from PC or with means of LG Package Disabler. So, no hassle
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You should use iPhone then

Jericksen92 said:
These days I even use the LG launcher(after enabling the app drawer)
Functionally I don't see a benefit to rooting anymore ?*
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This.
And, frankly, I even see no use in app drawer. See, app drawer is a crippled thing from days of 512Mb phones. In those days launcher would need too much RAM to draw all the icons so they were hidden to conserve memory and free it for user's apps.
Now when I have 6Gb I see no use in drawer, I sort icons to folder to my content and can't be happier
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scheduled Auto Reboot
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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
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A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone.
The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted
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You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having root
And you're not owning your phone until you delete all Google's crap up to google play services and play services framework. Even if you have root but have google on phone it's Google who owns it not you. That was proven dozens times

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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having r
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Wrong in so many ways

Billy Madison said:
And, frankly, I even see no use in app drawer.
See, app drawer is a crippled thing from days of 512Mb phones. In those days launcher would need too much RAM to draw all the icons so they were hidden to conserve memory and free it for user's apps.
Now when I have 6Gb I see no use in drawer, I sort icons to folder to my content and can't be happier
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No, you're not correct about that. The reason I and others use app drawer has nothing to do with amount of RAM. I have 200-300 apps and I prefer to hide most of them in an app drawer. I don't want them cluttering up my desktop screens. Yes, I have a couple of folders on my desktop, but for the most part I have my most used app clustered in categories on separate pages. For apps I use occasionally, those stay in the app drawer. Like a closet.
Same concept with Programs folder and desktop shortcuts on Windows and even the QuickLaunch bar (which I still use, even on Windows 10). Programs folder (app drawer) is for ALL installed programs (apps), desktop shortcuts/QuickLaunch/Pinned to Start menu are for frequently used programs (or apps with Android).
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For root in general, I've long used a time sync app and scheduled Auto Reboot (so my phone starts "fresh" every day). Whether you want those things is your decision. But it's YOUR phone, so you can do what you want.
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But in Oreo it's a thing in stock ROM. No need to root to reboot on schedule
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I seriously have no idea what you are saying in this statement. There's no scheduled reboot in stock Oreo, that I have seen.
But I have one anyway -- on all my Androids for quite some time, because I OWN my devices.
I also have a script to reboot my Windows PC every night. Same concept.
EDIT: Apparently on some phones you can schedule a reboot ONCE A WEEK. And you can't really control the time to the minute. It's "within one hour of the time you set"?
https://amp.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote...errer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s
And some carriers remove that feature. I don't see it on my phone and my ROOTED app is much better.
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Which leads me to my most important point. OWNERSHIP. With root, it's YOUR phone, not the carrier, not the OEM. It's just like being administrator of your computer at home. Any computer I buy, I will have "admin" privileges. Smartphones are simply handheld computers. A couple of years ago, Samsung pushed an update to purposefully BRICK perfectly good phones. Not all Galaxy Note 7 phones had bad batteries, only some. People paid SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS for those top tier spec phones -- and even though most were working just fine Samsung BRICKED those phones to force people to change to a different phone. People thought they had BOUGHT those Note 7 phones, but this proved Samsung still OWNED all those Galaxy Note 7 phones. The only Galaxy Note 7 ph9ones that were NOT bricked by Sasmung were those which were rooted. Those people who were rooted really owned their phones, not Samsung.
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You make miistake, you may check " Do not automatically update" and stop phone from being updated w/o having root
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You know better -- or should -- so not sure why you even said this. OEM/carrier can push updates no matter what you choose -- unless you own your phone with root:
https://thenextweb.com/mobile/2017/03/24/samsung-galaxy-note-7-disable-charging/
Samsung will remotely kill all unreturned Galaxy Note 7 units
The electronics giant announced it will begin remotely phasing out the last remaining units of its handset by forcing software updates that will prevent still unreturned Note 7 devices from charging, according to The Korea Herald.
Rumors that Samsung might force software updates to remotely brick unreturned Galaxy Note 7 units first began circulating last September, but were ultimately confirmed three months later in December.
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Samsung pushed those updates no matter what settings were chosen. Also, I've seen over and over people who got updated with OTHER phones,no matter what settings they chose. It's happened too frequently to be accidents. Carriers/OEMs own those phones, not you. If they decide to force an update, they'll force an update... whether you want it or not.
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Rooting is a philosophy of ownership, just like being admin of your PC. With root you can decide what happens and when, what is installed or not, how things are.
It's not about how stock is so "improved" you don't need to root. If you are saying that, then you are not even in the same discussion as me.
Sure, one day the the phones may be so locked down you can't root them, but that's NOT something you should accept willingly.
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Until your phone is rooted, you do not own it. You are merely "renting"/leasing it from the real owner -- the carrier/OEM.
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ChazzMatt said:
No, you're not correct about that. The reason I and others use app drawer has nothing to do with amount of RAM. I have 200-300 apps and I prefer to hide most of them in an app drawer. I don't want them cluttering up my desktop screens.
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Apps, that I don't need, stay in my 7th, 8th, 9th etc screens. It's the same as if I had them in drawer.
What I said is the CONCEPT of drawer was designed in the days when phones had scarse RAM and drawer was invented to comsume memory when using launcher. I didn't say that you must not use drawer, you may do what you see fit. It's just that I don't need drawer no more and em not using it
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I seriously have no idea what you are saying in this statement. There's no scheduled reboot in stock Oreo, that I have seen.
EDIT: Apparently on some phones you can schedule a reboot ONCE A WEEK. And you can't really control the time to the minute. It's "within one hour of the time you set"?
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Yes, LG G7 and probabaly V30 has such ability. I thought it could reboot once a day but my mistake, only once a week. Anyway I don't see need in such feature, I may reboot phone mystelf when I think most proper time. Maybe before I'm gonna put it on charge.
Ahyway I see no need for scripted reboots neither in Android nor in Windows

mingkee said:
You should use iPhone then
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I can play with my phone, I can surf, I can listen MQA music, I can shoot HDR10 video. There's nothing that I can't which I could do if I'll root phone or install custom ROM on it
That's what I'm trying to say. Back in the 2011 day when you fought for 6500 in Antutu and custom kernel could gain you 6800 you couldn't be happier. But noadays it's vain

Brandnew Phone

Guys i am having a problem...
Just bought a new redmi note 9 2 days ago and so far its a really goodphone...BUT it is reaaally laggy..i mean opening snapchat takes about 10 seconds and other apps too, the camera app is a disaster in terms of loading times..
are you goys experiencing the same issues or have any advice for me??
i am from austria so sorry for my bad english

Which version of MIUI is using ???

There's something fishy going on there
I don't have Snapchat installed on mine but the MIUI camera opens fully within a second
I presume you've rebooted at least once?

Marcithekilla said:
Guys i am having a problem...
Just bought a new redmi note 9 2 days ago and so far its a really goodphone...BUT it is reaaally laggy..i mean opening snapchat takes about 10 seconds and other apps too, the camera app is a disaster in terms of loading times..
are you goys experiencing the same issues or have any advice for me??
i am from austria so sorry for my bad english
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I only lagged the animations to return to the home screen and open the camera, but the other apps open normally

Ron4ldoRamos said:
Which version of MIUI is using ???
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miui version is 12.0.3

thesoupthief said:
There's something fishy going on there
I don't have Snapchat installed on mine but the MIUI camera opens fully within a second
I presume you've rebooted at least once?
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yes i have and i wiped my systwm yesterday because the screen would turn on at the slightest movement...at least this problem is fixed for me...but it feels like i have a 50 dollar smartphone in my hands......are 3gb of ram really that bad?

Marcithekilla said:
yes i have and i wiped my systwm yesterday because the screen would turn on at the slightest movement...at least this problem is fixed for me...but it feels like i have a 50 dollar smartphone in my hands......are 3gb of ram really that bad?
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Hmmm, I have the 4gb/128gb version - I can see how the extra memory might make a bit of difference, especially given MIUI's bloat, but I wouldn't have expected you to experience such slow performance. I guess we're using the same EU rom. Maybe look at trying to strip out some of the bloatware? Might help a bit?

thesoupthief said:
Hmmm, I have the 4gb/128gb version - I can see how the extra memory might make a bit of difference, especially given MIUI's bloat, but I wouldn't have expected you to experience such slow performance. I guess we're using the same EU rom. Maybe look at trying to strip out some of the bloatware? Might help a bit?
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how should i debloat it? i am not new to adb, root and so on...but this is my first xiaomi smartphone..

Marcithekilla said:
how should i debloat it? i am not new to adb, root and so on...but this is my first xiaomi smartphone..
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https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
I think you could use this. Also, there are lot of videos on Youtube about debloating Mi devices, try it.

Minhvlvl said:
https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
I think you could use this. Also, there are lot of videos on Youtube about debloating Mi devices, try it.
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did it with this tool yesterday and jokes aside it feels like a other phone...smooth with no lags or unnecessary long loading times.

Marcithekilla said:
did it with this tool yesterday and jokes aside it feels like a other phone...smooth with no lags or unnecessary long loading times.
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What did u debloate

Halloul said:
What did u debloate
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ana-debloat-list-global-miui-11-0-10-t4141253
basicaly everything in this guide besides the disabled apps

Marcithekilla said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ana-debloat-list-global-miui-11-0-10-t4141253
basicaly everything in this guide besides the disabled apps
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Yay! Great work! Personally I wouldn't have removed all the Google stuff, but this looks a great way to see off the MIUI junk

thesoupthief said:
Yay! Great work! Personally I wouldn't have removed all the Google stuff, but this looks a great way to see off the MIUI junk
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yes it is and i haven't removed every google app but most