Just installed itself
ekerbuddyeker said:
Just installed itself
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Lol. Could there be any less info?
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This post doesn't help much. Anyways, seems to be AUB7 with the March security update. Just performance improvements as well as camera improvements
Yes. Sorry! Good lock asked to re run it's optimizer. So far feels fine.
Actually I commented on the update for this version, as I prior had the note 20 ultra HK version (snapdragon dual sim) and it was notorious for not getting updated. Like ever. Was most frustrating. Glad to see the ultra does get the updates.
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Build Number : G9980ZHU1AUB7
Android version : R(Android 11)
Release Date : 2021-02-25
Security patch level : 2021-03-01
The exact changes may differ depending on your device model, country/Region, and service provider.
• Improved performance
- The performance of Camera has been improved.
- Overall device performance has been improved.
• The latest Android security patch has been applied.
- Device security has been further enhanced.
Hi..which region and device is this? I thought the S21U goes by the code 998B
amirage said:
Hi..which region and device is this? I thought the S21U goes by the code 998B
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Taiwan and Hong Kong , G9980 BRI/TGY
zjhao said:
Taiwan and Hong Kong , G9980 BRI/TGY
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Right..and the update is AUB7? The other regions are on AUB9..so is AUB7 > AUB9? Dang, I can't figure out Samsung's numbering system...it's all smoke and shadows!
amirage said:
Right..and the update is AUB7? The other regions are on AUB9..so is AUB7 > AUB9? Dang, I can't figure out Samsung's numbering system...it's all smoke and shadows!
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Yes is AUB7
because the SoC is completely different,Can't be compared
The kernel version number is still 20700993. It should be that the Exynos model has relatively large room for improvement and optimization. The Snapdragon model has limited room for improvement and optimization, but the initial performance is more stable than the Exynos model.
This is my long-term experience using two SoC versions of Samsung S series and Note series
However, the Exynos model encountered major problems. The optimization efficiency is improved and the speed of pushing updates will be faster than the Snapdragon model (except for the S20 / Note20 series of the Korean Snapdragon version)
zjhao said:
Yes is AUB7
because the SoC is completely different,Can't be compared
The kernel version number is still 20700993. It should be that the Exynos model has relatively large room for improvement and optimization. The Snapdragon model has limited room for improvement and optimization, but the initial performance is more stable than the Exynos model.
This is my long-term experience using two SoC versions of Samsung S series and Note series
However, the Exynos model encountered major problems. The optimization efficiency is improved and the speed of pushing updates will be faster than the Snapdragon model (except for the S20 / Note20 series of the Korean Snapdragon version)
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i have been having really bad battery life with my exynoss, otherwise it rocks... will it be any better ?
Berserker900 said:
i have been having really bad battery life with my exynoss, otherwise it rocks... will it be any better ?
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I'm just curious as to what people who keep having bad battery life have running/installed in their phones. It very well could be an app problem, but I suppose that it could also just be a Exynos related problem - I just haven't seen any deeper detailed explanations of the problem.
Would you mind telling me a bit more so that I can get a full understanding of this battery usage issue? I have the SD888 version and this phone has the best battery of any device that I've ever had prior... Fill me in if you can. Thanks!
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I'm just curious as to what people who keep having bad battery life have running/installed in their phones. It very well could be an app problem, but I suppose that it could also just be a Exynos related problem - I just haven't seen any deeper detailed explanations of the problem.
Would you mind telling me a bit more so that I can get a full understanding of this battery usage issue? I have the SD888 version and this phone has the best battery of any device that I've ever had prior... Fill me in if you can. Thanks!
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i just did a full reset for my phone, coz i heard that using smartwatch does affect the battery. i just will try anything for the moment.
ok so, the phone for me is super, i do not care about benchs or whatever, it does wat i ask and more except for battery it is draining fast. i get 5SOT when lucky, i have 5g on, 120hz, fhd, Bluetooth,sync,auto rotate, basically everything not gonna lie.
but i think anyone do the same, i have duel sims both on, i never connect to WiFi coz im always out.
am i being a whiner ? or should i get more than that?
i had an s20fe before and i think it used to last more.
the thing is i see battery draining once i use the device, like i see it lol
no heating tho or any other issues, i have package disabler on so anything useless i kill it asap.
wdyt?
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i just did a full reset for my phone, coz i heard that using smartwatch does affect the battery. i just will try anything for the moment.
ok so, the phone for me is super, i do not care about benchs or whatever, it does wat i ask and more except for battery it is draining fast. i get 5SOT when lucky, i have 5g on, 120hz, fhd, Bluetooth,sync,auto rotate, basically everything not gonna lie.
but i think anyone do the same, i have duel sims both on, i never connect to WiFi coz im always out.
am i being a whiner ? or should i get more than that?
i had an s20fe before and i think it used to last more.
the thing is i see battery draining once i use the device, like i see it lol
no heating tho or any other issues, i have package disabler on so anything useless i kill it asap.
wdyt?
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Thanks for responding! Hmm, interesting. I can usually hit 5 hours SOT with 120hz and 1440P enabled, however, that only brings me to around 40-50% battery.
Maybe it's got something to do with that package disabler app. I don't have any potentially continuous background apps running on my phone and I also use Samsung's built-in battery options (sleep mode and deep sleep mode) for apps that I don't need/receive notifications from. Aside from that, the only other thing that I've done was remove almost all of the stock, built-in Samsung apps over ADB as I happen to use all Google apps (and doing so over ADB is the only reliable way to do so on Samsung devices).
Perhaps one or all of those things are what is helping me out - so give em' a try if you'd like to. But let me know how the phone reset works on your battery life! I hope that you can get it sorted out!
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Thanks for responding! Hmm, interesting. I can usually hit 5 hours SOT with 120hz and 1440P enabled, however, that only brings me to around 40-50% battery.
Maybe it's got something to do with that package disabler app. I don't have any potentially continuous background apps running on my phone and I also use Samsung's built-in battery options (sleep mode and deep sleep mode) for apps that I don't need/receive notifications from. Aside from that, the only other thing that I've done was remove almost all of the stock, built-in Samsung apps over ADB as I happen to use all Google apps (and doing so over ADB is the only reliable way to do so on Samsung devices).
Perhaps one or all of those things are what is helping me out - so give em' a try if you'd like to. But let me know how the phone reset works on your battery life! I hope that you can get it sorted out!
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Hmmm , interesting .
I use package disabler coz it serves as the ADB method but this doesn't require a PC.
Might try that one as well.
So you only removed the srock apps, nothing out of ordinary?
Coz some lists asks to move too much which becomes weird.
Did the fresh install, awaiting a full charge to complete and will give it a test run.
Thank you mate, will update for sure.
Most of the battery drain for me is associated with the crazy google play services. I can't figure out why this service is draining on average 3.5% per day! I have tried every trick in the book but nothing seems to work
Can someone please tell me whats the name of the weather provider in the samsungs weather app? Thanks..
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Can someone please tell me whats the name of the weather provider in the samsungs weather app? Thanks..
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I'm pretty sure that it uses information from weather (dot) com.
*Edit* - Just checked and it's actually Accuweather. Live and learn I guess, haha.
Berserker900 said:
Hmmm , interesting .
I use package disabler coz it serves as the ADB method but this doesn't require a PC.
Might try that one as well.
So you only removed the srock apps, nothing out of ordinary?
Coz some lists asks to move too much which becomes weird.
Did the fresh install, awaiting a full charge to complete and will give it a test run.
Thank you mate, will update for sure.
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Hmm, interesting. I guess the package disabler app should work then. But yeah, I've only removed stock, Samsung apps that I could directly replace with Google apps (things like phone, messages, calendar, calculator, etc) - so nothing out of the ordinary. It just stinks that Samsung made it so that the user cannot disable those untouched apps in the settings like they can on most other phones... Regardless, I'm still hoping that your reset does the trick! But with that said, just remember to give the phone a few full charge uses prior to giving it a battery duration test (as it usually takes like 3-4 full battery uses for this phone to adapt to your usage).
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Build Number : G9980ZHU1AUB7
Android version : R(Android 11)
Release Date : 2021-02-25
Security patch level : 2021-03-01
The exact changes may differ depending on your device model, country/Region, and service provider.
• Improved performance
- The performance of Camera has been improved.
- Overall device performance has been improved.
• The latest Android security patch has been applied.
- Device security has been further enhanced.
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WhatsApp version off app camera use this march update? Thanks
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but i think anyone do the same, i have duel sims both on, i never connect to WiFi coz im always out.
am i being a whiner ? or should i get more than that?
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I can only speak from *my* experience but running 5G/LTE almost continuously as opposed to Wifi would probably drop my battery life by at least 33-40%. This is from my experience with my Note 9 when travelling overseas and not having access to wifi. With my S21 ultra, since having it I have 80% of the time been on wifi.
Related
It seems that OP3 has some Memory Management issues right no:
http://www.gsmarena.com/video_shows_the_oneplus_3_struggling_to_manage_its_6gb_of_ram-blog-18866.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYv8YQJbJaQ
Let's hope OP and/or custom ROM developers will fix that in a near future. Otherwise, 6GB would be completely useless.
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It seems that OP3 has some Memory Management issues right no:
http://www.gsmarena.com/video_shows_the_oneplus_3_struggling_to_manage_its_6gb_of_ram-blog-18866.php
Let's hope OP and/or custom ROM developers will fix that in a near future. Otherwise, 6GB would be completely useless.
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That looks pretty bad from the YouTube vid, hope its fixable
Really want to know if the test has been made before or after updating to OOS 3.1.2... and what OOS 3.1.2 changelog is !
I think it was made before the update. They said in another video that they have had it since June 5th and that they will be releasing multiple videos soon. I am guessing this is one of those videos. But that doesn't mean it is fixed.
I have posted a question about update 3.1.2 to video owner.
Let's see what he replies.
To me this comment makes a lot of sense too:
Very interesting test, but not very conclusive. From video history of the same test performed on different devices by C4ETech:
1:05 - 1:54 - 1st and 2nd round - Galaxy S7 (exynos, 4Gb)
1:01 - 1:35 - 1st and 2nd round - Galaxy S7 Edge (exynos, 4Gb)
1:24 - 2:00 - 1st and 2nd round - HTC 10 (SD820, 4Gb)
1:05 - 2:10 - 1st and 2nd round - LG G5 (SD820, 4Gb)
1:10 - 2:22 - 1st and 2nd round - Oneplus 3 (SD820, 6Gb)
If you compare those numbers, you will see that:
1) +/- 5 seconds don't really mean anything. S7E vs S7 with same CPU and same ram in 2 tests gave different results in the 1st round.
2) Memory management can be luck of the draw and depends on other factors. Again difference is S7 vs S7E clearly shows that one app is still in memory in one test and not in memory on the other, even though hardware and software are almost the same (if you don't consider S7 and S7E to be all that different). Otherwise you might as well call S7E "awesome" phone and S7 "crappy" phone.
3) Speed of all those (except HTC10) is almost the same judging by the 1st round. HTC10 is just a bit slower due to storage (emmc on HTC 10 vs ufs on others)
4) Now that new phones have so much memory (that is clearly not utilized to full potential), there really should be an update to the android system as a whole to take advantage of it. I don't see any reason for any of these devices (regardless of 4Gb or 6Gb) to unload apps from memory in the scenario of this test. Good thing is that tools/apps exist that can force system to keep apps in memory, if desired, but it is not really a substitute for better native memory management (by android as a whole) that can take advantage of all the ram available.
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Yeahj.. just wait for the update
And even if it was the slowest of them it comes with dev friendly sources and not with a locked bootloader and too high price
dev friendly sources should be the way to overcome this issue at least in custom ROMs... we will see...
Carl Pei wrote on twitter, that they did this on purpose for better battery life and it is possible to change it within the framework, if someone wants to change it.
Shusky said:
Carl Pei wrote on twitter, that they did this on purpose for better battery life and it is possible to change it within the framework, if someone wants to change it.
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OMG!
well, freeze app, don't let it do anything, no data, no CPU usage -> that will save battery.
do not throw it away from RAM!
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OMG!
well, freeze app, don't let it do anything, no data, no CPU usage -> that will save battery.
do not throw it away from RAM!
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What exactly are we seeing here that people are calling memory management issues? OOM/LMK limits? Or are we stashing too much in RAM? I can't see the video because of the network I am on. I am certain it can be fixed regardless and tuned to ensure the issue is gone.
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What exactly are we seeing here that people are calling memory management issues? OOM/LMK limits? Or are we stashing too much in RAM? I can't see the video because of the network I am on. I am certain it can be fixed regardless and tuned to ensure the issue is gone.
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Exactly OOM/LMK limits. 16 apps are opened, then 2 large games are kicked from the cache and have to reload. That's about it.
Will there be any xposed mod possible for this issue?
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
Same guy did a new video with 3.1.2 update and compared.
I have the device in hand now and not seeing any issues with all apps open not one relloaded but if i open all on my s7e some start to reload
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What exactly are we seeing here that people are calling memory management issues? OOM/LMK limits? Or are we stashing too much in RAM? I can't see the video because of the network I am on. I am certain it can be fixed regardless and tuned to ensure the issue is gone.
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The LMK limits are messed up. It is too aggressive in killing apps....btw what have you decided? Will you support our phone or undecided yet? I hope you get on board the OP3 train!! Peace
Konskl said:
The LMK limits are messed up. It is too aggressive in killing apps....btw what have you decided? Will you support our phone or undecided yet? I hope you get on board the OP3 train!! Peace
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If you root, I know kernel adiutor let's you change the limits, if you have 6gb of ram you may as well be like Samsung and use it all. What are you guys seeing for usage with no apps running? And what is the amount you see apps getting killed at?
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If you root, I know kernel adiutor let's you change the limits, if you have 6gb of ram you may as well be like Samsung and use it all. What are you guys seeing for usage with no apps running? And what is the amount you see apps getting killed at?
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If no apps are open the unused ram is around 4.6gb out of 5.6gb
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I have posted a question about update 3.1.2 to video owner.
Let's see what he replies.
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He replied with a new video. Check it out!
Welcome Samsung Galaxy S9 owners!
come and share your thoughts and reviews about the device here. :good:
Present :victory:
Hello Kabayan!
Loving it so far, great upgrade from the S7. That being said, the battery on my S7 is slightly better, probably due to the smaller display.
Running well on SoldierROM 2.1 + Xposed and Magisk.
Install Naptime + Greenify = Better battery life
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Hello Kabayan!
Loving it so far, great upgrade from the S7. That being said, the battery on my S7 is slightly better, probably due to the smaller display.
Running well on SoldierROM 2.1 + Xposed and Magisk.
Install Naptime + Greenify = Better battery life
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From s7 to s9 is really a great upgrade, but I came from s5 and it's totally a big jump. Though, battery is almost the same with s5 (when I first got it). Camera is incredible, but when HDR is a little bit tricky, I am using the GCam port to use the HDR+ function and the photos definitely blows me away. One thing worth mentioning is the new stereo speakers with dolby atmos support! These are incredible, and now I've got to rewatch all the marvel movies so that to enjoy truly the experience with speakers. So far so good, but I don't look on rooting my phone atleast when samsung still supports this phone for software updates
@kyooo totally agree with you bro , me also im kinda craving to root this device but i think its better not to due to security patches and samsung experience update , im kinda bored on android stock i think samsung ui is improving
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@kyooo totally agree with you bro , me also im kinda craving to root this device but i think its better not to due to security patches and samsung experience update , im kinda bored on android stock i think samsung ui is improving
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Yep that's what I exactly thought of. I hope though that Samsung would fix battery drain in the exynos models, it sucks hard. I would get around 4hrs of SOT with heavy usage at WQHD+ and around 6hrs of SOT with social media apps only in power saving mode with only speed limiter on. But I dont want to use the power saving feature unless Im going on a full day without charge.
I think samsung will release a patch on drain , some says it something to do with poor cpu governor , if its only a software issue i believe samsung will fix this on their next update btw i got 6-8 hours sot with aod turned off and fhd+ turned on ive also set location to battery saving not precise location ,
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I think samsung will release a patch on drain , some says it something to do with poor cpu governor , if its only a software issue i believe samsung will fix this on their next update btw i got 6-8 hours sot with aod turned off and fhd+ turned on ive also set location to battery saving not precise location ,
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Yeep it's actually the governor, the person behind anandtech's website made a kernel which tuned down a little of the cpu power according to use and it turned out really well when it comes to battery life.
8 hrs is impossible to me, I only got 6hrs max with power saving mode on. Is that an s9+?
Hello, have you guys received the BRE5 update yet?
I have noticed that no matter what app it is , big in size like 500 mb + or small in size 5 mb , it takes multiple seconds to get installed.
It gets downloaded immediately and then it gets stuck in installing for about 7-8 seconds .
Did not used to happen on my iphone.
Did not see this thing in any android as well .
What are your views?
It's normal for Exynos phones. It was the same on my s9+ and s10+. Just Samsung being lazy and not wanting to optimize.
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It's normal for Exynos phones. It was the same on my s9+ and s10+. Just Samsung being lazy and not wanting to optimize.
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That is not the case with the s21. There are plenty of videos showing the exynos next to a snap and the speeds are the same.
Especially with the updates of the last months these speed issues are cleared out.
The guy having slower installations could be due to a 100 reasons and he has not specified enough info to rule in any conclusion.
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That is not the case with the s21. There are plenty of videos showing the exynos next to a snap and the speeds are the same.
Especially with the updates of the last months these speed issues are cleared out.
The guy having slower installations could be due to a 100 reasons and he has not specified enough info to rule in any conclusion.
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Ok, then all my Samsung phones must be defect, including my s21ultra.
Side by side with my Huawei p30 pro, I updated Samsung browser. It took 5 seconds on Huawei and 12 seconds on my s21 ultra. I uninstalled the update and reinstall. The second time, Huawei still took 5 seconds, but the 21ultra went up to 15 seconds. The 3rd time, 16 seconds for Samsung, still 5 for Huawei.
Huawei p30 pro has a 7nm SoC that was launched in 2018 vs a 5nm 2021 SoC on Samsung. What a shame for Samsung.
This the only problem I have with Exynos phones. Samsung couldn't care less about optimising app instalation process.
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Ok, then all my Samsung phones must be defect, including my s21ultra.
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If you are so certain it is exynos, at least try and explain how do you know that installations are so much faster on SNAP?
My s9+ was okay with installation speeds and my s21 is way faster.
I just tested and installed a 119mb APK, it took exactly 4 seconds for the installation to be completed trough a file manager.
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If you are so certain it is exynos, at least try and explain how do you know that installations are so much faster on SNAP?
My s9+ was okay with installation speeds and my s21 is way faster.
I just tested and installed a 119mb APK, it took exactly 4 seconds for the installation to be completed trough a file manager.
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Read my previous post. It's not just Snapdragon. Uninstall the Samsung browser updates and reinstall. Tell me how long it takes. What was the 119mb app that you installed? So I can try on my ultra.
It's not just the size of the apk that matters, it's also what app you install. Some of them take much longer than others.
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Side by side with my Huawei p30 pro, I updated Samsung browser. It took 5 seconds on Huawei and 12 seconds on my s21 ultra. I uninstalled the update and reinstall. The second time, Huawei still took 5 seconds, but the 21ultra went up to 15 seconds. The 3rd time, 16 seconds for Samsung, still 5 for Huawei.
Huawei p30 pro has a 7nm SoC that was launched in 2018 vs a 5nm 2021 SoC on Samsung. What a shame for Samsung.
This the only problem I have with Exynos phones. Samsung couldn't care less about optimising app instalation process.
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It all boils down to pre-existing software and settings. Some may be user adjusted settings, and others are pre-adjusted ROM settings by the manufacturer. At the end of the day it could also be the playstore being different. And also security settings performing extra scans that slow the process down...
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Read my previous post. It's not just Snapdragon. Uninstall the Samsung browser updates and reinstall. Tell me how long it takes. What was the 119mb app that you installed? So I can try on my ultra.
It's not just the size of the apk that matters, it's also what app you install. Some of them take much longer than others.
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So I updated my Samsung browser and it was an 80MB update, the moment it downloaded, it took 14 seconds to install.
Then I updated my Brave Browser and the download was 78MB, the installation was barely 2.5 seconds.
It likely also has to do with the way the app files are structured.
This was my experience with my last 3 exynos Samsung phones. You can try and explain things, but the result is the same. Exynos is still slower in installing and updating apps, than Kirin or Snapdragon. I tried 3 different Google accounts, în case something was wrong with my old one and no change.
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Side by side with my Huawei p30 pro, I updated Samsung browser. It took 5 seconds on Huawei and 12 seconds on my s21 ultra. I uninstalled the update and reinstall. The second time, Huawei still took 5 seconds, but the 21ultra went up to 15 seconds. The 3rd time, 16 seconds for Samsung, still 5 for Huawei.
Huawei p30 pro has a 7nm SoC that was launched in 2018 vs a 5nm 2021 SoC on Samsung. What a shame for Samsung.
This the only problem I have with Exynos phones. Samsung couldn't care less about optimising app instalation process.
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The Google Play services (under GMS) is responsible for installation, not Samsung. And you just said it was not the type of CPU but software with this statement "Samsung couldn't care less about optimising app instalation process". Also, you are comparing an android version 10 phone to 11, the new Google Play services now support app bundles, delivery optimisation, instant play and various other changes to the installation process.
And you do not even know if the phone is Exynos and you are already blaming it. Look an issue, must be Exynos! Did you compare an Exynos vs Snapdragon S21? No you compared apples to oranges and got Exynos is the problem.
Do want to know the real reason? The malware scanning device care (under automation) slows it down, if you turn this off it's a lot faster.
You anti-Exynos people are like anti-vaxxers, "Did someone say Exynos?! Did you know that it is the number one cause of climate change! It is also responsible for the new delta strain of Covid!!!!".
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The Google Play services (under GMS) is responsible for installation, not Samsung. And you just said it was not the type of CPU but software with this statement "Samsung couldn't care less about optimising app instalation process". Also, you are comparing an android version 10 phone to 11, the new Google Play services now support app bundles, delivery optimisation, instant play and various other changes to the installation process.
And you do not even know if the phone is Exynos and you are already blaming it. Look an issue, must be Exynos! Did you compare an Exynos vs Snapdragon S21? No you compared apples to oranges and got Exynos is the problem.
Do want to know the real reason? The malware scanning device care (under automation) slows it down, if you turn this off it's a lot faster.
You anti-Exynos people are like anti-vaxxers, "Did someone say Exynos?! Did you know that it is the number one cause of climate change! It is also responsible for the new delta strain of Covid!!!!".
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Please do not speak poorly of people who have reservations regarding vax's. You do not know for a fact if they are right or wrong. Plenty of scientists have come out and expressed serious concerns about vax's, old and new, and it is a fact that big pharma suppresses what doesn't suit their interests.
Other than that, you are perfectly right about the comparison with oranges and apples and software functioning differently on different devices and OS versions.
Exynos is not to blame for climate change. At least not with the s21 series. Previous generation sucked a bit more, compared to Snaps.
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The Google Play services (under GMS) is responsible for installation, not Samsung. And you just said it was not the type of CPU but software with this statement "Samsung couldn't care less about optimising app instalation process". Also, you are comparing an android version 10 phone to 11, the new Google Play services now support app bundles, delivery optimisation, instant play and various other changes to the installation process.
And you do not even know if the phone is Exynos and you are already blaming it. Look an issue, must be Exynos! Did you compare an Exynos vs Snapdragon S21? No you compared apples to oranges and got Exynos is the problem.
Do want to know the real reason? The malware scanning device care (under automation) slows it down, if you turn this off it's a lot faster.
You anti-Exynos people are like anti-vaxxers, "Did someone say Exynos?! Did you know that it is the number one cause of climate change! It is also responsible for the new delta strain of Covid!!!!".
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You drunk or something? I'm not anti-exynos, quite the opposite, look at my post history.
I don't even know it's Exynos? How is that? The OP phone is exynos and my phone is exynos and I compared it with kirin and Snapdragon phones. Not just s21, but s9+ and s10+ too. The other phones have that app scanning thing on too and it doesn't slow them down.
And a cpu can be optimize to run better through software uodates, wtf are you on about? I didn't say Exynos is a bad cpu.
Btw, I had my anti-covid vaccines months ago.
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You drunk or something? I'm not anti-exynos, quite the opposite, look at my post history.
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Also you...
This was my experience with my last 3 exynos Samsung phones. You can try and explain things, but the result is the same. Exynos is still slower in installing and updating apps, than Kirin or Snapdragon
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"This is the only problem I have with Exynos phones". I said that. Look 10 comments up. If I'm sharing my experience with my phones that I own, then I'm anti-Exynos and anti-vaxxer probably.
Look at this post where I defend Exynos.
S21 Ultra Exynos Heating Problem
Hlo guys, Hope you all are doing well. I bought an S21 Ultra (Exynos) yesterday and it seems to be running hot even during normal usage. It heats up while I charge it (with a 33W Xiaomi charger) and it heats up even more (goes upto 43°C) while...
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But you already seen it and even gave me a like.
ione2380 said:
"This is the only problem I have with Exynos phones". I said that. Look 10 comments up. If I'm sharing my experience with my phones that I own, then I'm anti-Exynos and anti-vaxxer probably.
Look at this post where I defend Exynos.
S21 Ultra Exynos Heating Problem
Hlo guys, Hope you all are doing well. I bought an S21 Ultra (Exynos) yesterday and it seems to be running hot even during normal usage. It heats up while I charge it (with a 33W Xiaomi charger) and it heats up even more (goes upto 43°C) while...
forum.xda-developers.com
But you already seen it and even gave me a like.
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These vaxes are messing with your minds it seems
Have you tried making a spreadsheet to track the app and the install time?
Then do a factory reset and reinstall the same apps and track the times in another column, to see how close the times are.
It could be the way software just is, like how when you have a fresh windows 10 installation, every app installs super fast, but after a while the registry gets cluttered and subsequent installs are slower.
maybe android is similar in how it just slows the software install process as you install more apps?
But I think this theory could also explain the bizarre behavior reported above, where the same exact app is installed/uninstalled but the time needed to perform early installs is less than the time needed for the later installs, even though it's the exact same app.
Use ApkExport
APK Export (Backup & Share) - Apps on Google Play
Manage and extract your apps.
play.google.com
Make installable copies of all user, system apks and their updates. Store on SD card or flashstick/PC/backup hdds.
Reloads are a snap, no Playstore or download lag. Takes me about 20 minutes to load 4-5 gb of apks on my 10+. Only exactly what I want loaded gets loaded. Works perfectly.
You get the apk version you want rather than what Playstore is dooling out or has removed.
Apple? Bah-ha-ha-ha... sucks. What boring and expensive devices iPhones truly are.
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I made this thread for general discussion on the topic and you guys are fighting like cats and dogs.
Please dont do that and neither pass any personal statements.
blackhawk said:
Use ApkExport
APK Export (Backup & Share) - Apps on Google Play
Manage and extract your apps.
play.google.com
Make installable copies of all user, system apks and their updates. Store on SD card or flashstick/PC/backup hdds.
Reloads are a snap, no Playstore or download lag. Takes me about 20 minutes to load 4-5 gb of apks on my 10+. Only exactly what I want loaded gets loaded. Works perfectly.
You get the apk version you want rather than what Playstore is dooling out or has removed.
Apple? Bah-ha-ha-ha... sucks. What boring and expensive devices iPhones truly are.
Geared for the technically challenged
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That still doesn't change the fact that Exynos is slower in installing apks, no matter the source.
So my phone is exactly 9 months old today and it is stuttering like crazy especially when I'm using PiP or multitasking basically! I tried almost everything but nothing is helping. I'm also having poor battery life compared to earlier. I used to get 24hrs+ earlier with 5 or 6 hrs screen on time. But now it's just plain bad with 11hrs and 4 to 5hrs of SOT!
Anybody else face this? I'm running,
Beta 3, Exynos device with Watch 4 always connected!
This phone shouldn't lag at all.
Clear the system cache.
What's ram usage at? A memory leak in a app?
Install/uninstall any apps recently?
Any recent firmware updates?
Consider the possibility of being malware caused.
Is the battery still fast charging at the same rates as when new? Is the battery still good?
Li's can fail quickly. Any rear cover bulging ie battery swelling is a failure.
If the cause can't be found and a reload/reflash doesn't help it may be a mobo failure.
blackhawk said:
This phone shouldn't lag at all.
Clear the system cache.
What's ram usage at? A memory leak in a app?
Install/uninstall any apps recently?
Any recent firmware updates?
Consider the possibility of being malware caused.
Is the battery still fast charging at the same rates as when new? Is the battery still good?
Li's can fail quickly. Any rear cover bulging ie battery swelling is a failure.
If the cause can't be found and a reload/reflash doesn't help it may be a mobo failure.
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Actually now I'm just waiting for the OneUI 4 to launch to reflash. I have cleared the system cache and the ram usage is normal. I feel it maybe because of the GPU as it happens mostly when multitasking with PiP.
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Actually now I'm just waiting for the OneUI 4 to launch to reflash. I have cleared the system cache and the ram usage is normal. I feel it maybe because of the GPU as it happens mostly when multitasking with PiP.
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I've seen occasional glitches on my N10+/Pie when multitasking but it was 3rd party app related/specific. It didn't bog down the system just screwed up that window.
It easily could software or firmware in your case. Samsung added over 100 apks just to make Q usable, no doubt more with R.
I have 2 N10+'s that are nearly identical except one is running on Pie, the other Q. The Q variant has 50-150* new small apks added to make it functional over the base Android 10 load.
The new Google Android security is a fubar.
It's nuts... lol, Samsung needs to add some more apks I guess
Samsung usually fixes the glitches eventually.
*it's a lot, haven't counted. They're really obvious in Package Disabler though, they're not present in Pie.
Sukrith said:
So my phone is exactly 9 months old today and it is stuttering like crazy especially when I'm using PiP or multitasking basically! I tried almost everything but nothing is helping. I'm also having poor battery life compared to earlier. I used to get 24hrs+ earlier with 5 or 6 hrs screen on time. But now it's just plain bad with 11hrs and 4 to 5hrs of SOT!
Anybody else face this? I'm running,
Beta 3, Exynos device with Watch 4 always connected!
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There's your reason right there. Beta 4 is meant to be an improvement, but lag and stutters are part and parcel of the A12 betas. It's for this reason I'm sticking with Android 11 (or to be precise Dr. Ketans R10) until the full official Android 12 is released by Samsung.
Hi all,
As you know, I got this device a couple of weeks ago as a upgrade (birthday pressie).... and on the whole, I am might impressed with it. Compared to previous phones, this is awesome....
However, one odd thing I am experiencing... is battery life? Whilst I read reports of this device and the other I was looking at, Note 10 5G. Both had 5000mah batteries, and reviews RAVED about how good battery life is in them. Some even saying it can be used as a Battery Bank to charge other peoples phone.
However in actual use of the phone, I'm afraid to use it... for merely tapping a few icons, browsing web and running/opening camera... I literally am watching the percentages drain... I thought this thing would be rock solid, and can generally browse/mess around and the battery will slowly decrease...?
Don't get me wrong, if I don't touch it and leave it in standby it will claim to last at least a couple of days... or that said, running it as SatNav and not touching the screen on a 30min drive, it didn't drain the battery at all and stayed at 100% (which did surprise me).
But to me, what appears as light use, tapping icons and surfing around see's it draining fairly quickly. I dread to think if I was playing a high end game, it will prolly be gone in 5 mins.... Good job I don't do games... lol
Cheers, Lister
Morning Lister .. ya got your paddling pool ready for tomorrow lol
Mines been quite doing the same playing with gcam ( I haven't uploaded the XML yet , reming me to do it later ).
I have noticed the battery draining quicker when the screens set to 90mhz , as I've read elsewhere that seems quite normal as the phone has to refresh the screen faster than it would on 60 . Signal strength can be detrimental too , a bad signal means the phone tries harder to pull it in and uses more battery in the process .
When I've finally got everything set up I'll see how long I can get on a charge , still got to copy me 3 stooges collection on to it , all 65gb of it
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I have noticed the battery draining quicker when the screens set to 120mhz
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I think this phone has 90hz refresh rate, not 120mhz. Maybe u wrote it by mistake.
Hi The Mero,
Oh don't, I am not a sun lover at the best of times and these last few days/week's been killing me... lol.
I am, as we speak, practicing my Snow Dance !!! ;-) LOL
Yeah, seems odd that a camera can zap that much battery. I get it has to do a couple of things, active viewfinder, take the pic and then use processing power to render the output. But after reading all the rave reviews, this battery will last you into the next pandemic and all that... It to me, just seems to drain a little too quickly for my liking. I was expecting to get some fun time, without watching the battery drain down...
I think this screen can only go to 90mhz, but that said... I even have my set to the standard 60mhz. I not really played around with it, but it seems quick enough for me at 60mhz and every bit of battery helps. Like being in a heatwave and keeping ya aircon off, whilst sitting at the traffic lights with windows open... Gotta save that fuel/battery... ;-) lol
I did look at battery drain, and Mobile Standby did seem high, which is odd as its never been an issue with my older phones in same location. I'll keep an eye on that though, cheers....
Lister
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I think this phone has 90hz refresh rate, not 120mhz. Maybe u wrote it by mistake.
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Sorry I was thing of me old x3 NFC striker lol . Thanks for correcting me
Hi The Mero,
I just noticed this thread pop up, which is similar thing... It seems a few are getting the high Cell Standby for no reason at all... Although they appear to be on the updated version...??
"Cell Standby" battery drain on latest MIUI Global 13.0.12?
Hi, everyone. I bought a Redmi Note 11 Global a few days back and while setting it up, I was amazed at the battery life. It was at 56% when I opened it up, and throughout the entire setup process and after around 5 or 6 hours of screen on time, I...
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That said, I do have Calls over WiFi enabled, as it's the first time i've owned a phone that supports and is now available on my plan (PAYG lol). So I enabled it, just to try it out... lol
But apparently, this can be a zapper and cause the Cell Standby issue. Might try disabling it, and see if Battery Life improves....
Cheers, Lister
I'm on PAYG too , I turn off internet calling ( volte ) I had an issue on the X3 where you could hear the other person but they couldn't hear you . Some said it was a flaky mic and some said volte ( another name for it ) . Anyways I knocked it off and calls were fine after that . So if you start getting the same issue give that a try . Plus battery issues could be down to the CPU not behaving . Russian forum had some with the CPU stuck at full throttle while others were stuck at lowest speed . All using different miui versions or custom ROMs , this is getting worse every time we read about it
This phone is in need of a custom kernel. I think the default CPU/GPU governor is not properly optimised. We don't want the CPU to fire up all its cores and constantly hit 2.4Ghz while playing candy crush.
Also, MIUI 13 is so restrictive and bland. We are losing controls and features with each new update.
This amazing hardware needs a divorce from its retarded software.
some interesting reading .. miui updates
MIUI 13 Beta MI-V13.0.2 for Redmi Note 11 has been suspended due to a Google Play Server error
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This phone is in need of a custom kernel. I think the default CPU/GPU governor is not properly optimised. We don't want the CPU to fire up all its cores and constantly hit 2.4Ghz while playing candy crush.
Also, MIUI 13 is so restrictive and bland. We are losing controls and features with each new update.
This amazing hardware needs a divorce from its retarded software.
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In my case, the amazing hardware broke up with its retarded software and is currently married to this chick named Pixel Experience. The experience is way way smooth and is something we and the hardware totally deserves. Though yes we really need a custom kernel, I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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In my case, the amazing hardware broke up with its retarded software and is currently married to this chick named Pixel Experience. The experience is way way smooth and is something we and the hardware totally deserves. Though yes we really need a custom kernel, I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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Same here, unlocked bootloader and currently on Evolution X. Though all google apps and services are debloated so basically vanilla. I get 10 hrs screen on time with about 40 hrs standby
Hi All,
The battery on this device is really really shocking.... as in shockingly bad !!!
When I read about 5000mah ( basically double anything I've had prior ) and how good the reviews for battery life were on these devices. I had high hopes, I thought Id be able to tap away, causally wasting hours watching pointless YouTube and whatnot...
However here I am, re-arranging icons.... Configuring Applications (TruePhone and it's GAZZILION options), and watching the percentages just drop off, one by one by one.... I bet if I put a chocolate egg outside in this heatwave, it will melt at a slower rate than the battery drains...
Admittedly, I do have a few Apps on it... but no more than when I look at other peoples phones and it's not like I am putting heavy/tasking apps on. No gaming apps or anything like that... And to watch it go from 100 to 70 in what I think is a short time, is somewhat depressing...
I'll have to charge the ole 5000mah phone up and carry a couple 20,000mah at this rate... lol.
I've even de-bloated some of the system Apps in background... I may treat it to another wipe/reset and test it with barely any load and see what happens...
Cheers, Lister
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I had an issue on the X3 where you could hear the other person but they couldn't hear you . Some said it was a flaky mic and some said volte ( another name for it )
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I've had that issue on my Note 5 as well, and apparently I was not alone and it was in fact an issue that was introduced with Android 10. Turning off VoLTE did work for me, but that of course entailed a significantly worse call quality. I ended up switching to a different carrier and the problem went away. Sucks to see that the issue can still arise on current handsets.
I had a note 5 too , I can't remember if it did it or not, but I switched to a Moto g7 power and it did it on there too . I think your right about the network. I'm on 3 in the UK and never thought of the network being at fault , cheers for that
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I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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Because they don't want to and there's not really anything people can do about it.
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Because they don't want to and there's not really anything people can do about it.
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Under GNU General Public License (GPL) it is mandatory to release a device's kernel source code if it is a modified version of the Linux kernel.
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Under GNU General Public License (GPL) it is mandatory to release a device's kernel source code if it is a modified version of the Linux kernel.
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I know that they legally have to. But which user will sue them if they don't is what I'm saying.