Hello everybody, I just got my Moto X and I have to say it is a lovely device better than I expected in terms of how it feels in the hand. Really compact device.
I have some questions:
1. My phone has 4.4.2 but OTA fails to update it to 4.4.3. Is there any software that I can use to update the phone?
2. Is there a flashtool software where I can flash different .ftf fies?
3. Root option for 4.4.3 available?
1. There are a few threads discussing the 4.4.3 OTA, and what condition your phone must be in to receive/install the OTA. For example -> [XT1053] 4.4.3 OTA Update Zip and Android™ 4.4.3, KitKat® Rolls Out to Moto Devices I'm sure if you READ it, you'll find information that will solve your issue. Or if you post details of your phone, carrier, any tweaks you've made to it, etc...
2. I do not believe so.
3. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you *can* Root 4.4.3. If you have a LOCKED bootloader, you *can not* root 4.4.3.
asilviug said:
Hello everybody, I just got my Moto X and I have to say it is a lovely device better than I expected in terms of how it feels in the hand. Really compact device.
I have some questions:
1. My phone has 4.4.2 but OTA fails to update it to 4.4.3. Is there any software that I can use to update the phone?
2. Is there a flashtool software where I can flash different .ftf fies?
3. Root option for 4.4.3 available?
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Locked or unlocked bootloader? What carrier?
I have an unlocked Dev Ed Moto X running TMobile, and it accepted the 4.4.3 OTA update. I first had to revert entirely to stock 4.4.2, though.
varxx said:
Locked or unlocked bootloader? What carrier?
I have an unlocked Dev Ed Moto X running TMobile, and it accepted the 4.4.3 OTA update. I first had to revert entirely to stock 4.4.2, though.
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My phone is branded with an AT&T logo on the back. Model number is xt1058 and I'm running stock 4.4.2
I don't know about the bootloader though, how can I verify that?
I would really like to update this to 4.4.3 and root it, although it's not that easy I see.
Any help would be highly appreciated. I'm even considering throwing in a bounty
asilviug said:
My phone is branded with an AT&T logo on the back. Model number is xt1058 and I'm running stock 4.4.2
I don't know about the bootloader though, how can I verify that?
I would really like to update this to 4.4.3 and root it, although it's not that easy I see.
Any help would be highly appreciated. I'm even considering throwing in a bounty
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Ok... here we go...
4.4.3 is not out for the ATT XT1058 yet, so you can't update to it. You need to wait for ATT to start making it available.
ATT XT1058 has a locked bootloader, and Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes. Your only option to unlock the bootloader is *IF* (or maybe when) the Chinese WebSite/MiddelMan comes back to selling bootloader unlock codes. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
There is no option to root 4.4.3 when you have a locked bootloader.
If you want usable root on the X you need two parts 1. Root Exploit, and 2. An Exploit that allows for disabling Write Protection. There is now a Root Exploit for 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader, but there is not an exploit to disable write protection. This means if you'd root, then anytime you power your phone off/on, the changes, root, etc is lost. And Root style apps that need to write to /system and the like, CANT.
there is no root option for 4.4.3 with a locked bootloader
For more details see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Locked.html
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4.4.3 is not out for the ATT XT1058 yet, so you can't update to it. You need to wait for ATT to start making it available.
ATT XT1058 has a locked bootloader, and Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes. Your only option to unlock the bootloader is *IF* (or maybe when) the Chinese WebSite/MiddelMan comes back to selling bootloader unlock codes. See -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
There is no option to root 4.4.3 when you have a locked bootloader.
If you want usable root on the X you need two parts 1. Root Exploit, and 2. An Exploit that allows for disabling Write Protection. There is now a Root Exploit for 4.4.2 with a locked bootloader, but there is not an exploit to disable write protection. This means if you'd root, then anytime you power your phone off/on, the changes, root, etc is lost. And Root style apps that need to write to /system and the like, CANT.
there is no root option for 4.4.3 with a locked bootloader
For more details see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Locked.html
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Thanks for the info fist of all. Not very good news but it is what it is.
I took a look at that link and apparently the newer models of Moto X are most likely to get an unlock code. My phone is from 2013 most probably but I don't know how to find out exactly. Can you advise on this matter as getting a code from that asian dude seems the next step for me.
asilviug said:
Thanks for the info fist of all. Not very good news but it is what it is.
I took a look at that link and apparently the newer models of Moto X are most likely to get an unlock code. My phone is from 2013 most probably but I don't know how to find out exactly. Can you advise on this matter as getting a code from that asian dude seems the next step for me.
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There are several ways to find out your date code.. The easiest is to boot the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode, and select the option for Bar Codes. The date displayed there is the build date.
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There are several ways to find out your date code.. The easiest is to boot the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode, and select the option for Bar Codes. The date displayed there is the build date.
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Thanks, it appears that my phone is from August 2013. I will try to get a code. Before I do that just want to double check it with you.
Once I get the unlock code, I can root 4.4.2 that I'm currently running and also future updates released by AT&T/Motorola in the near future including the 4.4.3?
asilviug said:
Thanks, it appears that my phone is from August 2013. I will try to get a code. Before I do that just want to double check it with you.
Once I get the unlock code, I can root 4.4.2 that I'm currently running and also future updates released by AT&T/Motorola in the near future including the 4.4.3?
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Correct. Once you unlock your bootloader (which is DESTRUCTIVE, so BACKUP EVERYTHING To Your PC, or Cloud, before you do the process), you will be able to root any android version by flashing a 3rd party recovery (like TWRP), booting to the 3rd party recovery and installing SuperSU.
For more info, see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm
KidJoe said:
Correct. Once you unlock your bootloader (which is DESTRUCTIVE, so BACKUP EVERYTHING To Your PC, or Cloud, before you do the process), you will be able to root any android version by flashing a 3rd party recovery (like TWRP), booting to the 3rd party recovery and installing SuperSU.
For more info, see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm
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Unfortunately the Chinese middle man couldn't help me with the unlock code. What about contacting AT&T regarding the unlock code? Do you think it's possible asking them politely?
asilviug said:
Unfortunately the Chinese middle man couldn't help me with the unlock code. What about contacting AT&T regarding the unlock code? Do you think it's possible to ask them politely?
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Zero chance. Sorry.
I mean...it's certainly possible to ask them politely, but they still won't give it to you....guaranteed.
I'm guessing you have a 2013 variant since the middleman couldn't help you?
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Zero chance. Sorry.
I mean...it's certainly possible to ask them politely, but they still won't give it to you....guaranteed.
I'm guessing you have a 2013 variant since the middleman couldn't help you?
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Yes, a late 2013 model. He said that the database could become available again in the future...
If I want to contact AT&T, what would be the best way? Phone/email? I'm not an US citizen nor living in US.
asilviug said:
Yes, a late 2013 model. He said that the database could become available again in the future...
If I want to contact AT&T, what would be the best way? Phone/email? I'm not an US citizen nor living in US.
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I'm not an AT&T customer, so I can't advise on contact info, but I can tell you that you will be wasting your time if you even try. The chance that they will give you the code is exactly 0% no matter how nicely you ask them.
You might consider selling your AT&T XT1058 and buying one that can be unlocked, such as the XT1053, or the XT1058 Roger's variant if unlocking the BL is that important to you.
Good Luck
asilviug said:
Unfortunately the Chinese middle man couldn't help me with the unlock code. What about contacting AT&T regarding the unlock code? Do you think it's possible asking them politely?
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asilviug said:
Yes, a late 2013 model. He said that the database could become available again in the future...
If I want to contact AT&T, what would be the best way? Phone/email? I'm not an US citizen nor living in US.
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You have zero chance getting a boot loader unlock code from Att or Moto.
And If you are not living in the USA, then you are likely not an ATT customer, so they won't even talk to you.
Hello
I recently bought a Moto X (European version) and I would like to have the Xposed framework on it. To do that I need to have root access as I understand it. To gain root access I need to unlock the bootloader, or do I? I have read a couple of threads where an unlocked bootloader wasn't needed to root the phone, there was apparently some sort of exploit to forgo that. I'm wondering if that is possible with the Android 4.4.4 and European version combo?
I appreciate your time and help!
Best regards
ArticHood
Yes you need an unlocked bootloader to Root 4.4.4.
See the one stop shop for Root in the general section, right near the top. ?
ArticHood said:
...To gain root access I need to unlock the bootloader, or do I? I have read a couple of threads where an unlocked bootloader wasn't needed to root the phone, there was apparently some sort of exploit to forgo that.
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With 4.4.2, the vulnerability/exploit used to disable write protection on the 2013 X was patched and no longer works.
With 4.4.4, the vulnerability/exploit used to root phones with a locked bootloader has been patched.
With 4.4.4, the only way to root and disable write protection is to unlock the bootloader.
Link to Moto X unlocked bootloader?
Darth said:
Yes you need an unlocked bootloader to Root 4.4.4.
See the one stop shop for Root in the general section, right near the top. ?
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I am new to this site and am not sure where this "one stop shop" is. Can someone provide a link? Thanks!
ccnmnm said:
I am new to this site and am not sure where this "one stop shop" is. Can someone provide a link? Thanks!
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/one-stop-shop-how-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159
I have a XT1097 devices ATT.
Other devices to support the official bootloader unlock and bypass
Why this device is still going to be no way.
I hope if is not required unlock bootloader Rooting exist.
Please tell us the best way.
m8928 said:
I have a XT1097 devices ATT.
Other devices to support the official bootloader unlock and bypass
Why this device is still going to be no way.
I hope if is not required unlock bootloader Rooting exist.
Please tell us the best way.
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You ask why?.... Thats why they have a "PURE EDITION".
You want the option of unlocking? Pay up.
For anyone who might have bricked their device or just want to flash marshmallow on their s6 I have found the odin flashable file to do so. (Warning, make sure your bootloader is unlocked if you are upgrading or downgrading) I did a lot of research until I found this because I bricked my phone. Enjoy. http://www.theandroidsoul.com/download-galaxy-s6-stock-firmware/
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For anyone who might have bricked their device or just want to flash marshmallow on their s6 I have found the odin flashable file to do so. (Warning, make sure your bootloader is unlocked if you are upgrading or downgrading) I did a lot of research until I found this because I bricked my phone. Enjoy. http://www.theandroidsoul.com/download-galaxy-s6-stock-firmware/
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What process did you use to unlock your bootloader? I am under the impression no one has been able to do so on g920a.
dandrumheller said:
What process did you use to unlock your bootloader? I am under the impression no one has been able to do so on g920a.
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I was not able to unlock my bootloader. But I do know other people who can unlock bootloaders from other cell phone companies who want to switch to att firmeware so I included that phrase. I bricked my phone trying to downgrade when the bootloader was locked and had to find the original marshmallow firmware so I could fix my phone. I do believe though that once you own your phone you should be able to take a phone to att and have them unlock the bootloader from my understanding. That is what you have to do anyways if you want to change service to straight talk or other carriers.
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I was not able to unlock my bootloader. But I do know other people who can unlock bootloaders from other cell phone companies who want to switch to att firmeware so I included that phrase. I bricked my phone trying to downgrade when the bootloader was locked and had to find the original marshmallow firmware so I could fix my phone. I do believe though that once you own your phone you should be able to take a phone to att and have them unlock the bootloader from my understanding. That is what you have to do anyways if you want to change service to straight talk or other carriers.
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AFAIK they will NETWORK unlock, which is what you're referring to, not bootloader unlock.
So this may seem a bit of paranoia I may have but I already got my device unlocked from T-Mobilw but wondering if I flash the Unlocked Firmware (N950U1 from N950U) and then to Android Pie would I lose my carrier unlock that I already got unlocked from T Mobile by doing so. Also would Carrier to Unlock Firmware break the device?
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So this may seem a bit of paranoia I may have but I already got my device unlocked from T-Mobilw but wondering if I flash the Unlocked Firmware (N950U1 from N950U) and then to Android Pie would I lose my carrier unlock that I already got unlocked from T Mobile by doing so. Also would Carrier to Unlock Firmware break the device?
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No you won't lose it because it goes on a spot in your phone that doesn't get touched or erased when you change firmware or whatever. And no your device will not break however if you're wanting to try Android Pie there's one for the N950U1 version out now so you don't have to go all the way back to N950U.. Directions are on the forum already.
AndroidOSDeveloper said:
So this may seem a bit of paranoia I may have but I already got my device unlocked from T-Mobilw but wondering if I flash the Unlocked Firmware (N950U1 from N950U) and then to Android Pie would I lose my carrier unlock that I already got unlocked from T Mobile by doing so. Also would Carrier to Unlock Firmware break the device?
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The carrier unlock is done server side at T-Mobile. Once it's unlocked, it's unlocked. Period.