Phone had been behaving funny.
Ran a system log.
I'm a noob with this **** so here's a few screen shots that worried me.
The ONLY way to root the P4XL is with Magisk and the Magisk app will tell you if you are rooted or not. If you don't have the magisk app, you are not rooted. If you have it, it will tell you.
Adphxaz said:
Phone had been behaving funny.
Ran a system log.
I'm a noob with this **** so here's a few screen shots that worried me.
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The ONLY way to root the P4XL is with Magisk and the Magisk app will tell you if you are rooted or not. If you don't have the magisk app, you are not rooted. If you have it, it will tell you.
Rooting doesn't just happen while you're not looking. Agreed that if you can't find Magisk on your phone, you're not rooted.
Not to be unkind, but if you're poking around in logs, hoping for wisdom to show up, I'd pass on rooting. Getting it wrong can do very ugly things to the phone.
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So, I am using PIE from jcase and everything seems to go smoothly until I install XPosed.
Once I soft-reboot in the xposed installer, the device comes back to life but then after the screen is turned off for about 1 minute or more, I lose all root privileges. Funny thing is, any root checkers I run say that my phone still has root.
I really have no idea what could be causing this.
any ideas?
Why not ask in the PIE thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
Already talked to him. He doesn't have any clue either..
I got my B/L unlocked today and have full time root. This is no longer needed.
KJ said:
Why not ask in the PIE thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
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Jcase posted he didn't want talk about Xposed, tethering, safestrap, etc... ( HERE ) in that thread... He wanted to keep it just about Pie itself.
As the title says...I'm considering doing root in my V2. I just got my replacement note an hour ago. I immediately paused the update because I read somewhere on here that once you update, you won't be able to root. I was looking forward to root till I started thinking about what types of abilities I would actually lose by rooting?
What I can think of from the top of my head is:
1) No Samsung/Android pay
2) Some games won't let you play if you're rooted.
3) Some games won't let you play if you have xPosed installed (such as Marvel Future Fight)
4) Can't do software updates to make my phone faster/fix anything that is wrong (can't I just install the software updates after installing root? Or will that just remove the root?)
5) Voids warranty
Anything else I might lose?
I'm excited for xPosed cause I need me some modules such as snapprefs, and youtube playing in the background. I also like having the ability to change things around the device and such
Is there a way to get around the "xPosed detected" in those types of games by the way?
Luckily for you, the current root does not trip knox
1) Samsung pay will not work, but with right xpose set up Android pay will. The good news is if you ever go back to stock, Samsung pay will work again (knox not tripped)
2) Some games indeed will not work, but with the right xpose app you can fix this by hiding root from it.
3)I did not know that! They getting fancy now...but I can see reason why. I guess no Marvel Future Fight for you if you have xposed than. I know you can hide root from apps, not sure you can hide xposed from apps.
4)You cannot do software update, this is true. The run around for this is to wait for a developer, or even Jovy do a deodex of the new update and you can install that while keeping your old bootloader (for root to work). There is a possible downside to this...samsung is known to make their software run very funny if you are not on the corresponding bootloader. P.S. I never recommend taking a software update while you are rooted (assuming it will even install depending on what you have frozen or block). Just dont risk it.
5) TECHNICALLY your warranty will not be voided with current root method. Knox not tripped = Warranty in place.
As you can see, you are not really loosing much.
Root cloak fixes every problem with root.
Leelouster said:
As the title says...I'm considering doing root in my V2. I just got my replacement note an hour ago. I immediately paused the update because I read somewhere on here that once you update, you won't be able to root. I was looking forward to root till I started thinking about what types of abilities I would actually lose by rooting?
What I can think of from the top of my head is:
1) No Samsung/Android pay
2) Some games won't let you play if you're rooted.
3) Some games won't let you play if you have xPosed installed (such as Marvel Future Fight)
4) Can't do software updates to make my phone faster/fix anything that is wrong (can't I just install the software updates after installing root? Or will that just remove the root?)
5) Voids warranty
Anything else I might lose?
I'm excited for xPosed cause I need me some modules such as snapprefs, and youtube playing in the background. I also like having the ability to change things around the device and such
Is there a way to get around the "xPosed detected" in those types of games by the way?
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You'll lose secure folder and if you update shealth after the root process it will no longer run.
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You'll lose secure folder and if you update shealth after the root process it will no longer run.
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Oh yeah, I've heard about the shealth thing, just update it before you root and you'll be good It's a shame about the secure folder...:/ Anyway to go around it to be able to use it just like the shealth?
Seems like rooting will somehow cripple your device...wow times have changed.
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charlieb620 said:
Root cloak fixes every problem with root.
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Will samsung pay continue working?
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leelouster said:
oh yeah, i've heard about the shealth thing, just update it before you root and you'll be good it's a shame about the secure folder...:/ anyway to go around it to be able to use it just like the shealth?
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im rooted wit secured folder workin
mister_propa said:
im rooted wit secured folder workin
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How did you get that working? Ive tried setting it up before rooting and it wont let me open the file. I also tried setting it up after rooting but it keeps giving me error making the folder.
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Leelouster said:
Oh yeah, I've heard about the shealth thing, just update it before you root and you'll be good It's a shame about the secure folder...:/ Anyway to go around it to be able to use it just like the shealth?
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I had heard even if you update s health before rooting once your rooted it wont open due to root.
This is the first Android device I've own that I feel no need to root. Sure I'd love to have Viper4Android running but can't justify all I'd lose to run one app that requires root.
mgbotoe said:
Luckily for you, the current root does not trip knox
1) Samsung pay will not work, but with right xpose set up Android pay will. The good news is if you ever go back to stock, Samsung pay will work again (knox not tripped)
2) Some games indeed will not work, but with the right xpose app you can fix this by hiding root from it.
3)I did not know that! They getting fancy now...but I can see reason why. I guess no Marvel Future Fight for you if you have xposed than. I know you can hide root from apps, not sure you can hide xposed from apps.
4)You cannot do software update, this is true. The run around for this is to wait for a developer, or even Jovy do a deodex of the new update and you can install that while keeping your old bootloader (for root to work). There is a possible downside to this...samsung is known to make their software run very funny if you are not on the corresponding bootloader. P.S. I never recommend taking a software update while you are rooted (assuming it will even install depending on what you have frozen or block). Just dont risk it.
5) TECHNICALLY your warranty will not be voided with current root method. Knox not tripped = Warranty in place.
As you can see, you are not really loosing much.
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THANK YOU for you detailed explanation, this is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for your advice and everything Do you know what xpose app that is to hide root from games? I don't think you can hide xposed from apps though :/
charlieb620 said:
Root cloak fixes every problem with root.
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I'm guessing that's an xposed module?
mister_propa said:
im rooted wit secured folder workin
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How did you get it working? Can you please tell me what you did?
dkb218 said:
This is the first Android device I've own that I feel no need to root. Sure I'd love to have Viper4Android running but can't justify all I'd lose to run one app that requires root.
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I feel ya, I'm on the same boat, but I'd really enjoy some xposed modules lol. I'm an audiophile and haven't had Viper4Android since the S5 and I miss it lol
Hi XDA!
I need some help with lineageos on here. I'm a pretty seasoned flashaholic and generally know what I'm doing however this is stumping me.
Anytime I install lineageos + magisk, I have no root. All flashing goes to plan, however when I open magisk manager I get one of 2 things:
Either, I'm rooted with magisk installed, or I'm not rooted with magisk installed.
It seems to depend on which root app gains root first - for example, if magisk says I'm rooted (e.g it'd the first app to gain root) then any other app I open afterwards will tell me I'm not rooted, including root checkers. If I open a root checker first, it will say I'm rooted but then magisk will say after that I'm not, but magisk is installed, and all root apps from then on will fail. I'm really not sure what the problem is, and I have done clean installs, dirty flashes etc. All I have enabled is magisk hide and its busybox toggle. I've tried turning off it's busybox but no luck.
It gets worse if I enable developer options, Even if I don't touch any root settings in there (I like to disable Bluetooth absolute volume). If I do this, I loose root completely, but it still says magisk is installed. I'm not using SuperSU as I want to pass safetynet, and there are no su files from lineageos in /system/bin or xbin.
Obviously doesn't happen with OOS and all works fine.
Firmware is correct for LOS etc
If anyone can help I would appreciate it
Norman
Bump anyone?
Do you have Magisk built-in busybox enabled? If so, try disabling it. From the Magisk release thread:
FAQ:
Q: I am losing root randomly!
A: In some custom roms (known: LineageOS), enabling the Magisk busybox will make root unstable
If you experience root loss issue, disable busybox in MagiskManager
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Didgeridoohan said:
Do you have Magisk built-in busybox enabled? If so, try disabling it. From the Magisk release thread:
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Thanks for the answer, but you didn't read all i put. It happens with or without busybox enabled. It happens more when i have developer options enabled so i can disable absolute bluetooth volume.
Norman
manor7777 said:
Thanks for the answer, but you didn't read all i put. It happens with or without busybox enabled. It happens more when i have developer options enabled so i can disable absolute bluetooth volume.
Norman
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Oh crap... I did miss that part... Sorry about that. Gonna blame a long week and tired eyes.
No idea then, other than it being a LineageOS issue (I really dislike that ROM).
Didgeridoohan said:
Oh crap... I did miss that part... Sorry about that. Gonna blame a long week and tired eyes.
No idea then, other than it being a LineageOS issue (I really dislike that ROM).
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I preferred CM but its discontinued and replaced by LOS. I use tidal for music and whilst OOS Is good, its buffer city for tidal lostless and I can't get aptx on OOS.. I'm working on it now I'll report Here if I fix it
Hi,
I'm running stock ROM with TWRP recovery.
I've managed to successfully root my Note with Magisk.
Somehow I noticed that my device loses root after a reboot and sometimes even randomly. When I go into the custom recovery and flash Magisk 14 or 14.3 everything works fine for while, till it loses root again.
Could someone shed some light on my issue, please?
Thanks in advance.
I've also themed Magisk Manager with Substratum could that be the issue?
I'm also running stock rom, losing magisk root from time to time.
When root is lost, I'm getting a notification that "new magisk V14 is available.
Reinstalling with TWRP only to lose it again a day or two later.
You all need to change your settings in magisk manager. I had the same problem. Change your update channel to Beta. This will keep magisk 14.3 installed once you flash it in recovery after setting this. :highfive:
Are you using the hide root feature?
If so then that is probably your issue.
opasha said:
You all need to change your settings in magisk manager. I had the same problem. Change your update channel to Beta. This will keep magisk 14.3 installed once you flash it in recovery after setting this. :highfive:
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This worked for me, thank you!!
ALEXRUSS55 said:
This worked for me, thank you!!
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Welcome :highfive:
jpasint said:
Are you using the hide root feature?
If so then that is probably your issue.
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What issue does this cause?
I have the same issue with last magisk beta, 16.4.. have anyone found a fix?
stiffis said:
I have the same issue with last magisk beta, 16.4.. have anyone found a fix?
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Flash magisk v16.4, then open magisk manager disable magisk hide, for keep your root
kenpaci said:
Flash magisk v16.4, then open magisk manager disable magisk hide, for keep your root
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Looks like that worked, thanks!
stiffis said:
Looks like that worked, thanks!
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But it losses Android pay. Anyone with other solution to keep root and hide it?
Best regards
Webgurru
webgurru said:
But it losses Android pay. Anyone with other solution to keep root and hide it?
Best regards
Webgurru
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Try disabling MagiskHide and re-enable it again (try also with a reboot between disabling and enabling)
stiffis said:
Try disabling MagiskHide and re-enable it again (try also with a reboot between disabling and enabling)
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If I disable it, won't secure apps that run in the background pick up root? I'm guessing I should freeze them first or something?
hshah said:
If I disable it, won't secure apps that run in the background pick up root? I'm guessing I should freeze them first or something?
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Try closing those apps first, I think it goes ok as long you don't start the apps yourself because most off the apps checks root at startup, but I can't guarantee you anything
Something weird has happened... I've not actually changed anything but now I tend to lose root immediately after rebooting.
I'm a technical person so whilst I say nothing has changed, I know that it probably has and I just can't remember.
I need Hide, so disabling that is not an option... I have no idea where to even start debugging this
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hshah said:
Something weird has happened... I've not actually changed anything but now I tend to lose root immediately after rebooting.
I'm a technical person so whilst I say nothing has changed, I know that it probably has and I just can't remember.
I need Hide, so disabling that is not an option... I have no idea where to even start debugging this
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 using XDA Labs
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Hi,
Same thing happening to me. Lost root soon after restart. I need it hide. Any genius mind can suggest some solution?
Best regards,
Webgurru
webgurru said:
Hi,
Same thing happening to me. Lost root soon after restart. I need it hide. Any genius mind can suggest some solution?
Best regards,
Webgurru
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I've been posting my analysis here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/unofficial-magisk-v10-beta-built-t3521901
We have some smart guys (ie @topjohnwu @Didgeridoohan @kantjer etc) and I don't know enough to sort this so the least I can do is provide as much information as possible
hshah said:
I've been posting my analysis here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/unofficial-magisk-v10-beta-built-t3521901
We have some smart guys (ie @topjohnwu @Didgeridoohan @kantjer etc) and I don't know enough to sort this so the least I can do is provide as much information as possible
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Any luck or help from this thread to resolve?
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Any luck or help from this thread to resolve?
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Only been spamming the thread with my woes since yesterday so still early days. I'm certainly not expecting an immediate fix because this has been going on for quite some time and if it was easy, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
hshah said:
Only been spamming the thread with my woes since yesterday so still early days. I'm certainly not expecting an immediate fix because this has been going on for quite some time and if it was easy, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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Thanks. In my point of view this look to be a bug in Magisk. Did you tried some older version?
I'm trying to use this app: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.com.banrisul
I've added to the hiding list and enable core only mode, it still closes at startup after saying my phone is either root or running a modified system. I've tested with rootbeercheck and it doesn't detect root in any of its tests.
i.imgur.com/60Zs5IH.png
No issues opening the app here... That means Magisk is perfectly capable of hiding from it, but you might have something else in your setup that triggers it.
https://www.didgeridoohan.com/magisk/MagiskHide#hn_Hiding_root_from_apps
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No issues opening the app here... That means Magisk is perfectly capable of hiding from it, but you might have something else in your setup that triggers it.
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but what exactly would trigger it? The link talks mostly about methods to hide magisk, I didn't find anything about what to do if magisk is working but the check fails. I've uninstalled titaniumbackup and rootbrowser. I've disable adb and developer options, I've deleted any folder or downloaded file related to magisk or those apps.
I'm running lineageos, would that be it? How would I go about it?
Could be any number of things... Your ROM might be one of them (more details about that?). It's pretty much impossible for me to do anything else but make educated guesses. The only thing I can say with relative certainty is that it shouldn't have anything to do with Magisk (since I can hide from the app just fine when testing).
You do pass SafetyNet, right? Could be that this is one of those apps that actually use SN.
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Could be any number of things... Your ROM might be one of them (more details about that?). It's pretty much impossible for me to do anything else but make educated guesses. The only thing I can say with relative certainty is that it shouldn't have anything to do with Magisk (since I can hide from the app just fine when testing).
You do pass SafetyNet, right? Could be that this is one of those apps that actually use SN.
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It passes both checks.
I am running lineage OS 14.1 (Android 7.1.2) on a moto g4.
My main guess is that it's detecting something about your ROM. LOS is well known enough for apps to look for certain properties of it.
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My main guess is that it's detecting something about your ROM. LOS is well known enough for apps to look for certain properties of it.
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Yes, after searching around a bit more I found about why. I completely forgot that I had flashed supersu on my phone before flashing magisk. So I guess that's what the app was freaking out about. So I flashed a supersu removal and reflashed my ROM, now the app is working normally
Thanks for the help!
Same problem
Hello everyone
After the last update of my banking app and wallet too
Both apps stopped starting due tl root device detection
While it was working well yesterday
I just updat apps to the last version
I think these app's developers find a way to detect magisk
Of course im hiding and randomly renaming it
hammohammo said:
Hello everyone
After the last update of my banking app and wallet too
Both apps stopped starting due tl root device detection
While it was working well yesterday
I just updat apps to the last version
I think these app's developers find a way to detect magisk
Of course im hiding and randomly renaming it
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What version of the application do you want?
I have the latest version installed and it does not detect root