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Is this phone and company worth switching over too ? Do to Sprints changing my plan without my approval,I have the opportunity to switch to another carrier.Out of the other big 3 Verizon,T-mobile & AT&T is the only one that is willing to put their offer in writting to me. The other reason I am even looking at this phone and company is because both of my sons want the IPhone and my wife only wants a phone offered by them as well..
So..please fellow XDA members tell me staright up..should I stay with Sprint and my Hero for 1-1/2 years more..or start fresh with this phone and AT&T..
Mac
50 views and not even 1 response..?
Is there no one on-line that has this phone wanting to step up and answer the question ?
I really would like to know the feelings of the folks here,since those that have this phone also have AT&T's service..
Mac
Not an easy one to answer really. I would say if you are completely turned of by what Sprint did to you then changing wouldn't be a bad thing. Going with AT&T will get you points with your family. And who couldn't use more points with their family, right?
That being said, you have by now undoubtedly heared about the GPS problems facing the Galaxy S phones. Some have found their phone is better with different versions, some claim all the updates and changes have made their GPS unuseable. If you are in need of a phone that has good GPS then I would say you can find better. Personally, the GPS issue isn't a deal breaker for me. I am also one of the lucky ones that find it works fine for how I use it.
The phone itself is amazing. Being on XDA also helps as there are many helpful and informative people. Also, the Captivate has been out long enough that the mods are becomming better and better every day, that is if you are into modding your phone. Heck, stock it still is a good phone.
So it all boils down to what you really want to do. I think that is why you haven't had anyone jump on giving you an answer. Good luck my friend!
There is no "right carrier". The advantage of AT&T (now) is coverage and GSM. AT&T has better coverage then T-Mobile, but about equal to VZW. GSM allows you take your phone to Europe - VZW CDMA does not;
But the future brings change - VZW has a slew of World phones coming out (they have GSM as well as CDMA) - VZW has LTE coming out - which is supposed to be a global standard - so travel issue may be a thing of the past.
AT&T has the iPhone today, but rumor says a CDMA iPhone on VZW for the holidays. But rumors are rumors.
I don't know what you are looking for in writing - all the carriers plans are on their web site. T-Mo does have the best customer service, and VZW has some great android phones. If you don't travel much, and T-Mo has good coverage where you live, they seem to have the best prices and some of the best phones.
AT&T is fine too - not trying to steer you away. I moved to AT&T for an iPhone years ago - and I travel to EU; so VZW wasn't cutting it.
Anyway If the family wants AT&T and the price for phones and service fits, then make the move. But you are stuck for 2 years.
Sounds like it's 3-1 in your house. I'd go ahead and make the switch if thats what your family wants. I don't think you'll be worse off with one carrier over the other, at the end of the day they will all screw you. Captivate is a great phone if you can deal with the sometimes difficult to deal with GPS.
I agree. Go with what makes your family happy overall. The Captivate is a fine device, and I've been much more pleased with it than I was with my iPhone. Talk it over with your family, putting them first won't do you wrong.
My first phone was from Virgin Mobile and was prepaid. I know they leased out network access from Sprint. It was awful. I never had good coverage, and then they started charging more for everything. I left them.
I've been with AT&T now since 6th grade. They've never screwed us over, they've always been helpful, and whenever we've had problems, like my sister signing up for those joke things they advertise on tv putting huge data charges on our bill, they cleared it up right away and even gave us a credit on the account.
Of course you're going to hear horror stories of bad customer service from everyone, but really it's not all that common. I've always thought AT&T had great phones, and they've all last me a long time.
My favorite phones have always been Samsung ones as all but one of my phones has been from them. My first was a Sony Ericsson S710a and it lasted me until one day I was sliding it open, and it slipped out of my hand and into a wall and the LCD shattered. After that I had a Samsung a727, then the SGH-i607 Blackjack, then the SGH-a877 Impression, and now the Captivate.
You will be happier with AT&T then with Sprint. But ultimately, you pay the bill and you decide where your money goes. I'll just add that I don't usually praise any company for no reason.
I love this phone with ji6 gps works completely fine for me it does what its supposed to every time lately gets me there no issues. Im very happy with att besides they make you pay for tethering, but theres ways around that with this phone, hehe ;-)
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Thanks Guys..
I hate spending a-lot more money so soon on moving my service (since may 2010)..but I really don't know how I could stay with them.
As to any cell company posting their policy on line..well..that can and does change (with Sprint almost daily)..and actually having a written signed contract is something the other companies won't do,AT&T will.That does a lot for me..and for my wife peace of mind.My boys have wanted the I phones for sometime..I don't want one..which is why I am asking about the Captivate. BTW...Sprint elected to change my verbal contract given to me at the time of signing..and I fought it the best I could without turning my Lawyers loose..and I most likely would have won,but the cost to do so would have been prohibitive without a written contract,or so what they told me when I spoke to them about it..
So..the phone has a GPS problem..and that isn't a deal breaker for me,but I do want to see it fixed and soon.Having a 2.2 rom is what I am running on my hero now along with one of the best looking themes going right now IMHO..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797077 and so hopefully we can get this ported over here at some point..even if I have to learn how to do it myself
FWIW..I looked closely at this phone and also the Ios4 and hands down this one blows it out of the water on anything video..I stopped by T-Mobile and watched the HD Avatar movie on their version when I was looking at what they offered...It was just awesome..simply jaw dropping..
I am looking forward to the 2.2 upgrade and what comes after with it..So..I will be on here more and more reading what I can..
Thanks Again
Mac
Mac, just a heads up. The leaked 2.2 rom we have actually fixed the GPS. There's no real problem anymore. Obviously it will become more refined when the final release comes out but it definitely works now.
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stuffy is a difficult company but I can't feral with poor service so I disk with them. get used to advanced features like tethering being blocked and such. but you can fix that by looking in the dev section. att isn't all bad though mostly because they are stupid, I told them verizon had a 15% vetrans discount (they do) and asked att if they had something similar. well they didn't but the customer service rep put me on an active duty discount because she didn't know better. it needs to be approved at a higher level with pics of my id and a valid military email according to there website, well I put the papers in anyway and had 15% off my bill the next month. so they obviously don't look at it.
verizons version of bloatware is full blown add ware. if you plug an incredible into a windows pc it hijacks explorer and goes to a v cast music site. on the fascinate they replaced the google services with microsoft services.
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I think it's refreshing to see all the honest answers, not a ton of chest pounding "our phone is the best" posts. Most people on XDA by nature are into tweaking so the out-of-the-box limitations aren't a showstopper.
For me, I really need a world-capable phone. My family also is on ATT so that helped as well. I think all the carriers are converging on offering similar product. ATT has less HTC stuff but has the IPhone. ATT is currently behind on Android, but the Captivate is certainly helping to address that. I like the phone and have recommended it friends. Go for it.
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Mac, just a heads up. The leaked 2.2 rom we have actually fixed the GPS. There's no real problem anymore. Obviously it will become more refined when the final release comes out but it definitely works now.
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Cool..that is good news..
Thanks
Mac
I will give my two bits. My experience has been good with att. Cs has never been bad, but at times there were moments that did not go smoothly. Always quick to address concerns of mine and they love giving credits out to keep me happy. I have been one of the lucky that never had major problems out of the box with the captivate. But coming from a storm running on atti think my standard were lower. Gps on froyo still doesn't work perfectly but has had improvement with locking and tracking. Dev support is actually really good so that is a big plus. My wife loves her captivate and she is not a techie at all. Hope my input helps.
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I will give my two bits. My experience has been good with att. Cs has never been bad, but at times there were moments that did not go smoothly. Always quick to address concerns of mine and they love giving credits out to keep me happy. I have been one of the lucky that never had major problems out of the box with the captivate. But coming from a storm running on atti think my standard were lower. Gps on froyo still doesn't work perfectly but has had improvement with locking and tracking. Dev support is actually really good so that is a big plus. My wife loves her captivate and she is not a techie at all. Hope my input helps.
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It does,and greatly appreciated..
I understand the gps issue,and I am wondering if the delayed release of FroYo on this phone is partly because of it. Rooting and adding on customs roms has been working great for me on my Hero..and that phone is finnally acting the way it should have all along. Removing AT&T's bloatware will be my first priority after 2.2 is released..
I am curious about one thing..I know you can't load 3rd party apps unless rooted and a custom rom..but can you direct push them with the sd out of the phone and in a reader from a pc ? If we are working out of windows and a terminal..we should be able to insert any .apk or what we want.. anywhere we want..can't we ?
Thanks Again Guys
Mac
mobius911 said:
I think it's refreshing to see all the honest answers, not a ton of chest pounding "our phone is the best" posts. Most people on XDA by nature are into tweaking so the out-of-the-box limitations aren't a showstopper.
For me, I really need a world-capable phone. My family also is on ATT so that helped as well. I think all the carriers are converging on offering similar product. ATT has less HTC stuff but has the IPhone. ATT is currently behind on Android, but the Captivate is certainly helping to address that. I like the phone and have recommended it friends. Go for it.
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Same here..I know folks have their favorites and also know there will always be folks that have problems..but it is refreshing to see a honest straight forward discussion with out any of the fan fair these types of threads always seem to degenerate into.
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Mac11700 said:
I am curious about one thing..I know you can't load 3rd party apps unless rooted and a custom rom..but can you direct push them with the sd out of the phone and in a reader from a pc ? If we are working out of windows and a terminal..we should be able to insert any .apk or what we want.. anywhere we want..can't we ?
Thanks Again Guys
Mac
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You can push them using ADB or even easier, if you google something called the "Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine" or just sideload wonder machine, someone created an app to so that you don't even have to use the command prompt or hack the phone. No need for a custom rom, and I don't believe rooting is needed.
Here, I'll link you to it.
SIDELOAD WONDER MACHINE
I made the switch you are thinking of about 1.5 years ago and I have no regrets. One thing to keep in mind is the data cap ATT now has on their new subscribers. I signed up when unlimited was an offering, and honestly I don't know that I would have been comfortable using 1 smartphone, let alone 3-4 of them with limited data usage. ATT also had better coverage where I lived last year but would say Sprint is on par within the city limits now. The Evo is a really nice phone (Several people I know have them and are pleased) but I won't go back to Sprint after all the horrible customer service I had with them for 8 years. My local ATT business rep does an incredible job and is a big reason that I just renewed with them(they let me keep unlimited data). Ultimately, if I was in your shoes, I would probably do what made my family/wife happy as long as it isn't going to cause financial heartache when you exceed the data limit. I think they charge in blocks of 200mb for overage but you should definitely look into how much data your family has/will be using. My .02
Edited to add: Depending on what kind of user you are (business/personal) you might want to leave that cog. 2.2 alone until it works. I loaded it last weekend, went out to a job, and was unable to d-load an important pdf that was in my e-mail. Fortunately I had a laptop but in the past I would have been able to count on my phone for a quick blueprint reference. Sounds like it may be a fun thing to play with as long as you don't REALLY need everything on your phone to work. Also, the GPS was horrid on cog. 2.2. Needless to say I flashed it back to the original software when I got home. My GPS works just fine after the JH7 OTA update was installed. Worked yesterday on a 2 hour drive where I only had phone coverage for 20-30 miles. I haven't "tweaked" the GPS settings, just whatever they changed with JH7 is working.
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I made the switch you are thinking of about 1.5 years ago and I have no regrets. One thing to keep in mind is the data cap ATT now has on their new subscribers. I signed up when unlimited was an offering, and honestly I don't know that I would have been comfortable using 1 smartphone, let alone 3-4 of them with limited data usage. ATT also had better coverage where I lived last year but would say Sprint is on par within the city limits now. The Evo is a really nice phone (Several people I know have them and are pleased) but I won't go back to Sprint after all the horrible customer service I had with them for 8 years. My local ATT business rep does an incredible job and is a big reason that I just renewed with them(they let me keep unlimited data). Ultimately, if I was in your shoes, I would probably do what made my family/wife happy as long as it isn't going to cause financial heartache when you exceed the data limit. I think they charge in blocks of 200mb for overage but you should definitely look into how much data your family has/will be using. My .02
Edited to add: Depending on what kind of user you are (business/personal) you might want to leave that cog. 2.2 alone until it works. I loaded it last weekend, went out to a job, and was unable to d-load an important pdf that was in my e-mail. Fortunately I had a laptop but in the past I would have been able to count on my phone for a quick blueprint reference. Sounds like it may be a fun thing to play with as long as you don't REALLY need everything on your phone to work. Also, the GPS was horrid on cog. 2.2. Needless to say I flashed it back to the original software when I got home. My GPS works just fine after the JH7 OTA update was installed. Worked yesterday on a 2 hour drive where I only had phone coverage for 20-30 miles. I haven't "tweaked" the GPS settings, just whatever they changed with JH7 is working.
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Dam good advise..Thanks
They charge in 1 gig allotments for overages now..not 200 mb. I too was worried about doing just this..and this is per line..not per plan. I went back through all of my bills and no-one has even come close to 1gig..let alone 2 gigs..but I understand that can change too.
The main thing for me and my family is getting a phone that is going to work..every time. I've run into some issues with mine on my job where I needed it and something crashed it. Also it's so tiresome for me to hear all the complaints and moaning when something crashes or FC's on their phones..I can deal with it happening on mine cause I am used to tinkering with it..but I have to say I am very tempted some by the I 4's simplicity...it would be nice just to not have to worry about updating mine almost daily,and just use the durn thing. I just don't know if I could deal with it or not as a day to day phone. I am at a loss in that regards..I know you can jailbreak them and do similar things we do with our Androids..but..I don't know enough about that to even consider doing it right now. I most likely would just so I could download apps and movies on it to watch from my pc..I got a week to figure this all out..and you all here are helping a-lot..
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Mac
I honestly liked the iphone4, and had one for a week. It was fun and all, but it had the same problem as my 3G, the ability to make and MAINTAIN a phone call. Obviously that isn't much of an issue for younger kids since you can still text with spotty coverage(my 13 yo uses about 60 min. a month and 1,000,000,000,000 text messages) I don't know if the iphone is somehow on a different signal than the other phones, but I have been very pleased with the PHONE CALL ability of the captivate. My wife loves the iphone (though she keeps eyeballing the captivate now) and like you, I do not enjoy fixing problems, so I have tried my best to keep her interest in my phone at a minimum. I can honestly say I do not miss the iphone for anything. I also enjoy the *cough cough* wireless tethering of my captivate(free app) that iphone never did get right(and when it did work, there was the whole loss of signal issue). The iphone is good at running apps and texting, outstanding even. I just really need to make phone calls and MAINTAIN a call when I make it. But like I said in my previous post, if your use is personal, iphone might work. If you make important calls, it fails.
Hi guys,
I am ready to finally get rid of my tmobile wing! I finally made my decision to go with the international version of the SGS. Well, almost, I do have a few questions to owners and US users in particular:
- I would like to know of really bad known issues of the phone. Every phone will have some issues, it is a given, but what I am talking about is issue like the captivate where a lot of people have random shutdwon of their phones. I would like to know if there are any similar issues with the SGS that will prevent basic operation of the phone ( I know about the gps, and I am fine with this problem)
- How is reception, drop calls and call quality on the ATT network, and if someone is in FL, please tell me about your experience.
-I am aware of the fact that the phone has only 1900 Mhz band but I have been looking everywhere for a map that will show where the 850 vs 19000 3G areas are and I cannot find one! so if someone knows where to find one please a link would be great.
Thanks so much in advance for any input.
sure there are owners who can answer at least the first question. Please!
You need to wait for USA ATT owners to read your post .
jje
JJEgan said:
You need to wait for USA ATT owners to read your post .
jje
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Well, I would think any owner could answer my first question. that would be helpful, to make sure I am ok buying the phone. I am in a dire need of a new phone as my current one is falling apart. So if anybody who knows about this phone, it would be nice if they could chime in.
Thanks in advance!
I can't really answer anything about the reception on AT&T, but the problems with the phone there are lockups. It can freeze. But if you flash a custom ROM onto the thing, it runs like a dreaaam.
I have been bugged by the lagging on the first week i got the phone. managed to apply the lagfix and seem to be doing great so far. I'm planning to wait for official gingerbread from kies. Still afraid of flashing though.
Yeah dunno much how to answer your questions tho. but yeah, SGS is the best phone yet i ever had.
I've got the international i9000. From last August till now, I haven't had any problems. I put this down to 2 things, one good fortune ,and secondly it's unbranded and unlocked from new. The phone has gotten better with each firmware upgrade and now on 2.2.1 even if gingerbread wasn't coming my phones just fantastic and it's quick. The phone apparently can be rapid when its on gingerbread listening to the lads on XDA and some say it takes care of the only thing Ican say negatively about the phone, which is the battery life, and personally, (The lads on here probably know better.) I put that down almost entirely to system spyware,as three hours of internet knocks mine down to 48%, and even with all syncs turned off and all apps taken out except the sammy key board every so often all the g***l* stuff restarts itself in one form or another and you can see the little green and red data arrows active. AS a phone, I believe with this next official update coming, allowing for the gs2, allowing for it not having a camera flash, this is the best phone money can buy, yes there are dual core phones, yes a few more pixels, even yes, I'll probably at some point get the sg2, but not because it's needed , it's just what we do, after all we come to this site with the others because we like phones. Hope this helps in some way.
If you read around the forums, you'll find a lot of great things about this phone. I couldn't be happier with mine really. Reception is never a problem for me though I'm in Canada. Some people claim they have GPS problems, but there are several fixes that can help you improve/overcome those problems. They claim are that they can't lock enough/any satellites on their GPS system to get a reading, but after using GPS test app to learn a bit about the best way to detect a signal it works like a charm for me . You won't regret it, although I would probably look into a SGSII if it were me.
If you are going to be on AT&T why don't you buy the i9000m
Most of the issues in the phone have been down to bad firmware by the carriers and also a silly design decision from Samsung with regards to file systems on earlier firmwares.
Running 2.1 firmware the phone was slow as heck and my GPS which was set to Autonomous mode would take sometimes up to 5 minutes to get a fix. A simple setting change gets GPS lock within a few seconds. Also with each firmware release the phone has gotten faster and faster.
Also if you're a tinkerer then this phone is a dream. It's hard to brick, often recoverable if you make an error, and some of the well tuned ROMs on these boards are absolute rocketships for speed.
Thanks guys! You gave me great input. I will have to make a decision, but this will help me greatly.
zorxd said:
If you are going to be on AT&T why don't you buy the i9000m
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Don't they have a problem with this phone on some interal SD card failure? Is this something that only applies to the I9000m and not the international version?
Free ram available in this device is quite low, I had an European hd2 with 448 mb ram but it always had more free ram than my i9000 which has 512mb(almost double)... more free ram means it can do multitasking better, apparently do not need to be closed ects
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Just found a SGS I9000T on amazon for $445, do you guys think it is a good deal?
I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
As of right now, no.
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Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
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Thnx. Is it a case of no unlock? Or (lack of knowledge here) no GSM support?
Also, once an android device is rooted, is there an unlock app of some kind? Or?
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Currently GSM support is disabled in the firmware and AFAIK it will stay that way until Verizon releases an update to enable it.
Was a bit disappointing they do not have the global services available on the Droid 4. If your looking for a device with keyboard right now you may be able to pick up a used Droid 2 Global. I know those work up there as I had one when I was in Canada last year.
All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
The SIM Unlock codes are usually given by the carrier to their paid customers. Verizon will give them out if you have had an account in good standing for 6 months if I recall right.
As for sites to get the unlock codes, I cannot make any recommendations due to I have never paid for them. I have however seen on sites like deals extreme unlocker SIMs that go between the phone and the SIM but have no idea if or how well those work.
Also if you buy a used device you may be able to get one that has been SIM unlocked already. The SIM unlock is a one time task, even if the phone gets wiped or reset it will remain SIM unlocked.
I still keep my G1 as a spare. My next step from that was a TouchPro2 - it comes with WindowsMobile, but I'm running XDAndroid on it. It has an excellent keyboard. I think I still like the TP2 keyboard better than my D4's keyboard.
But, the TP2 has the exact same processor as the G1, and only a tiny bit more RAM. It has a much higher screen rez (800x480) but no faster hardware, so it is noticeably slow.
If I were you I'd look at picking up a used Droid3. I was considering the D3 as my next phone from the TP2, but waited instead for the D4 to come out. As it is, I'm finding that Verizon's 4G service is cutting out all the time on me, so it's still better as a 3G phone. And I'm heading off to Europe in a couple weeks, and will have to bring my G1 or my TP2 on the trip anyway.
Curses to Qualcomm, Motorola, and Verizon. Verizon for their stupid policies and selling a phone with full-featured hardware and intentionally crippled software. Motorola for their locked firmware that prevents end-users, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the damn hardware, from installing software on it as they see fit. Qualcomm for preventing end-users (again, who have legitimately paid for and *own* the hardware) from even seeing the specifications so that they can provide their own software.
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All I can say is, damn. I can't believe how messed up the mobile phone industry is. There is a device, I want to use it, so much so that I'm willing to pay the crazy $549.99 pricetag for it. However, they've decided that I'm not allowed to use it on my network. I hope chinese clones step up their game! Heh.
I was contemplating a droid3, however don't want to spend too much since I may want the droid4 once its actually usable.
I was contemplating picking up a motorola flipout for the meantime, cheap and weird looking!
Also, this probably isn't the right place for a question about this, but I'm at a loss as to what the heck unlock codes actually are (are they issued by the carrier? or hardware manufacturer?) and why there are numerous scammy websites selling them. Can anyone recommend a site I can do some reading about this on? About why I'll probably have to pay for one? I may need to know this if I pickup a different used phone.
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Bell sells the Motorola XT860, I'm currently using it unlocked on Rogers without a hitch. The only issue, I'm not sure if this phone will get official ICS support... The devs are hacking away at getting all of the cool ICS features up and running though
You can probably find an XT860 on Kijiji, Craigslist or even eBay for a lot cheaper than the full Bell price... heck they were giving them away on 3 year contracts during xmas. You might want to check out the Droid3 forums in the meantime to get some more info on XT860
Fwiw, i'm in Ireland now and popped an Irish SIM into the phone. Interestingly enough, you can swap the SIM while the phone is powered on, in Airplane mode. It still didn't work, but the phone didn't complain about any SIM lock. But when I rebooted the phone, it complained then.
There are properties in /system/build.prop for enabling world-mode. I turned these on, but looking at the radio logcat, it seems that our current libril-xxx.so just doesn't support any GSM commands.
The interesting thing is that the Motorola Atrix has the same Qualcomm MDM6600 radio modem as this phone. I'm going to look for an Atrix ROM and see if I can kang some libril files from there to see if I can get any further. (Btw, I wrote the multimode RIL for the XDAndroid ROM; this sort of investigation is my specialty...)
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I hope they hurry with this. I want this phone now. Its ridiculous that users outside USA cannot use this phone.
Bump, any development?
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Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
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Look at the thread titled "Droid 4 for Hong Konger" in this forum for instructions on how to unlock GSM capability. This only came about a few days ago.
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And it's still not stable from what I've read...
This phone is too early to jump into for me. I'll stick to my 4G Slide for now and check back on this device in a few months. Maybe development will pick up by then and they'll have the GSM thing sorted out
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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danifunker said:
The phone worked fine for me on Rogers when I had it. I did a bunch of tweaking in order to get all of the functions working, but this was back in ICS. Also, no LTE is available...
But you're much better off going full touchscreen, just get used to it... I think keyboard phones are going the way of the dinosaur
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OK guys this is perfect timing.. and i dont have much support for th eextra tweaking issues we have in Canada, with some of these phones and roms..
Anyhow. Heres my story.. You will like the ending!!
Ive owned a Droid 3 (XT860-BELLMOBILITY) for over a year now.. I came from the original Milestone 1 from Telus Mobililty.
4 weeks ago I had my Droid 3 stolen from me in the laundry room of my condo.. Well it was more.. forgotten by me (i think it was lost there.. for sure!!) and some lucky sole got their hands on it.. I can now use google and its cached pages of kijiji to see that it wass posted the day of.. lol ive got the kid selling other goods so its only a matter of time before i force karma upon him
I took a risk, but being desperate QWERTYDROID junkies like we are, and bought an American Verizon Droid 3 (XT862)
--Keep in mind that i knew nothing about unlocking, rooting, restoring, and doing the whole ROM/Bootstrap/TWRP/SAFEBOOT etc.. Im 35, been into pc's since i was 15, but never into MAC or LINUX.
At this point ive bricked these phones and the next one i speak about dozens of times, while attempting to do the practice makes perfect sort of journey to see what works, what doesnt, what sometimes does, etc.. Its always ended up being able to use the original stock rom's with no problems. (sometimes bloatwear was anoying) but not much support for our radios and etc.
So i had a bit of trouble getting this verizon droid 3 up and running as verizon themselves gives us extra work by trying to secure the load up of the activation process. Either way.. it worked, and still does, and ive gotten a few roms working on it like all SteelDroid, CM10.1, MiniMoto, and possibly a couple others. but these were the ones that can and will work, with a bit of trial and error.
shoot gotta run for a few minutes. so i wanna post this so i dont lose it all.
PART 2 of this story to follow within an hour!! But ill give you a bit of a spoiler.
I am using a Droid 4 now.. as a poster said justr before me, he had many issues to get past, well so did I, but them came the huge hurdles to get over also..
Still have my droid 3 xt862 that was wanting to sell. though,, im still not for certain ready to part with it..
be back shortly sorry about this..
next part in next post
What happened????
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eksobr said:
Bumping this again. Any news?
I'm in the same situation as OP. Need to upgrade phone (from a Desire Z) and want something with physical keyboard. Droid 4 seems like the best bet.
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As far as I'm aware, there shouldn't be any problem getting this to run on a GSM network outside the United States. If the phone is on ICS or JB the GSM is unlocked already. If you use any of the ROM's, there's a thread in the "Droid 4 Android Development" called "Enable GSM on any ROM Patch" which should fully enable it.
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demungtoe said:
I need a new phone with a physical keyboard. Was looking at the Droid4, which appears to have the best physical keyboard around, but am a bit of a newb at this stuff. My old HTC Dream (G1) is dying, and I need to figure this out sooner then later. Haha
Can it be unlocked to work on Rogers Wireless in Canada?
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I have a Droid4, updated with android 4.1, and I can confirm you that it works with Rogers
A simple "yes" or "no" and where you are located should suffice.
Spent a total of 5 hours with Sprint between the phone and corporate stores since the first day this came out and today I was finally told the truth that all Sprint HK M8 owners are facing data issues.
To be specific(D.C. is a spark area) Every 15 minutes or so, my data/voice will drop regardless of what I am doing and pick back up anywhere between 1x and lte/spark 3-4 minutes later like clock work.
The lady at the corporate store let me see how my phone was in the red(see last pic). I went back to stock unrooted. Downloaded the .15 update. Updated profiles, PRLs, ##72786# data resets constantly and this problem still exists. The best that any representative could do is credit me $30 for my troubles(bull ****). Tried to get a replacement handset and they told me no. No one has given me any sort of "this will be fixed soon". Its always "well.....profile/prl/data updates cant fix this so a technician will look at your local tower"
I'm trying to get a rough estimate as to how many people are having the same problems
Here are pics for reference. This all happened with in 2 hours and continues to happen
http://imgur.com/a/5GeWu
Don't be surprised if you see this on other forums. Kind of going every where to see how many are having issues.
It's your phone. You need a replacement. I had the same issues, went into a store. They replaced my phone. No more issues.
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mjs2011 said:
It's your phone. You need a replacement. I had the same issues, went into a store. They replaced my phone. No more issues.
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That was my problem. They said they wouldnt swap phones because its not the phone's fault.
Im having the same issues but only when connected to my airrave.
No,
I did encounter issues when I first got my phone......... but did a system update the first day and all issues seem to be fixed ..this update does note that it corrects this type of problem .. on my phone anyway
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That was my problem. They said they wouldnt swap phones because its not the phone's fault.
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Might want to have them check the SIM Card Reader. When I brought mine in after having the phone for a week, they told me that the issue were a result of the reader being busted. They replaced my phone right away with no issues since I only had it for a week. From what I hear is that the longer you've had the phone, the less likely Sprint will replace it though.
I'm heading over to the store again today to have them actually look at it.
They finally acknowledged that it is a handset problem. After looking at the service trends again I was red in voice and device was grey(don't know what that means). Crossing fingers that this fixes the issue but also Hoping that this isn't the only solution as it sounds costly
munsterrr said:
They finally acknowledged that it is a handset problem. After looking at the service trends again I was red in voice and device was grey(don't know what that means). Crossing fingers that this fixes the issue but also Hoping that this isn't the only solution as it sounds costly
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Grey means not enough data collected yet to determine anything.
I'm having bad issues as well as everyone else I personally sold HK and Non HK M8 too something is not right.. I'm to scared to order myself a replacement and not be able to achieve S-Off on it.. But I could buy the 25 dollar app to get it. Anyway Ive asked about these issues no response worth talking about. Hope to solve this soon guys...
Just got an HKE no problems here. I actually get better signal and speeds than on my Note 3. No Spark just LTE
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It's a damn shame. Flew through Milwaukee, Vegas, Reno, and am in lake Tahoe on vacation and it's the same **** everywhere.
Flash the roam only mod then the Verizon prl. I'm getting better signal now then when I was with Verizon. I also have an hk m8 btw.
Received my replacement at 11am(EST) this morning and have had zero drops or issues since then. Been at full service in Spark since then.
Will update this thread in a few days with my findings.
Sucks because I am afraid to root/s-off because everything is working but I miss my backups of apps(Ti Backup) that I have been working on for years and hate these damn ads and bloat ware.
Im in the same boat waiting on my replacement tommorow. Im looking at it this way. Make sure you have the latest firmware and there should be no difference. I guessing bad antennas in some and some are just lucky and got a good one. Maybe start a thread Rooted vs Non rooted with signal quality and maybe we can answer our own question?
I have been holding off a Sprint visit for weeks, but after getting voicemails without getting phone calls on numerous occasions, I will have to go to Sprint.
However, after completely unrooting my phone in preparation to go to Sprint, I might not root my replacement whenever I decide to go there.
HTC Backup is excellent, in my opinion, and it really helps we with my lack of Titanium Backup. I don't like the ads either, but I think that it might be time to throw in the towel on rooting my phone. I've gotten more than my share of rom flashes and whatnot.
I was given a replacement due to my original having a bad antenna. Ive had zero issues since getting my new phone
SENT FROM MY ROCKING HK M8
I just as got my second one In less then a week and it keeps showing data connection error or some like that
If you're having trouble with your HTC One M8 download the latest latest network performance test tool.
"dl3 . htc . com/us/sprint/network_performance_test_tool_v0.85.zip" <=== Official website I cant post link currently so remove spaces.
If you get a red screen with NG device you need a replacement. It's a known device problem so charges will be waived.
New radio seems to fix problems
I was having tons of data connection issues with my M8. I recently followed the posts on doing the recent firmware update (OTA for those of you not rooted) and it includes a radio update. The new radio seems to be working quite well and I haven't had any connection issues. Hopefully this works for you guys too.
Amsick you can get into big trouble for that lol
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Hello everyone,
I hope everyone is doing well! I signed up with the forums because I have questions about three devices I have and was hoping to get some help on them. I know that there are separate forums for each devices, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to give an overview here as well.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (AT&T), an Insignia Flex 11", and just recently received an AT&T Radiant Core (if I am correct, an AT&T-branded ZTE Radiant smartphone)
I have the Galaxy Note 3 because I bought it some years back when AT&T was still supporting the 3G network. The Radiant Core was mailed to me by AT&T because the 3G network will be shut down soon, and the Insignia was purchased on a lark.
I'd like to root all three, but the more I research, the more unlikely this seems. I haven't really tried anything with the Samsung just yet, but the Insignia doesn't have much out there on it besides dead links. It appears there was an app called Bin4ry that could root the system, but all the links I've found are dead.
As for the Radiant, I would like that rooted soon since I have been doing nothing but charging it since I received it. My Samsung will be disconnected from the network in about a week, and the Radiant will be activated. As a result, I'd like the phone to be ready (or bricked) soon. I've read, however, that network-branded phones are generally not worth the trouble of rooting if it can be done at all. I haven't seen much in the way of boot.img or recovery.img files for this phone, either. Perhaps it's not worth it?
As for why I would like to root, well, the Samsung has been a good small-screen media consumption device, but there are just too many pre-installed apps taking up space that I can't get rid of, including discontinued Samsung apps that are never going to be used. The Insignia doesn't have much on it, but it has a nice big screen and it came with a keyboard, so I'd like to experiment with it a bit. The Radiant is brand new and has not been used, so if I'm going to root it, I'd like to do it before using it for anything.
So! That's my story. If anyone can offer advice, I'd appreciate it. Thank you!
ParboiledUser said:
Hello everyone,
I hope everyone is doing well! I signed up with the forums because I have questions about three devices I have and was hoping to get some help on them. I know that there are separate forums for each devices, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to give an overview here as well.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (AT&T), an Insignia Flex 11", and just recently received an AT&T Radiant Core (if I am correct, an AT&T-branded ZTE Radiant smartphone)
I have the Galaxy Note 3 because I bought it some years back when AT&T was still supporting the 3G network. The Radiant Core was mailed to me by AT&T because the 3G network will be shut down soon, and the Insignia was purchased on a lark.
I'd like to root all three, but the more I research, the more unlikely this seems. I haven't really tried anything with the Samsung just yet, but the Insignia doesn't have much out there on it besides dead links. It appears there was an app called Bin4ry that could root the system, but all the links I've found are dead.
As for the Radiant, I would like that rooted soon since I have been doing nothing but charging it since I received it. My Samsung will be disconnected from the network in about a week, and the Radiant will be activated. As a result, I'd like the phone to be ready (or bricked) soon. I've read, however, that network-branded phones are generally not worth the trouble of rooting if it can be done at all. I haven't seen much in the way of boot.img or recovery.img files for this phone, either. Perhaps it's not worth it?
As for why I would like to root, well, the Samsung has been a good small-screen media consumption device, but there are just too many pre-installed apps taking up space that I can't get rid of, including discontinued Samsung apps that are never going to be used. The Insignia doesn't have much on it, but it has a nice big screen and it came with a keyboard, so I'd like to experiment with it a bit. The Radiant is brand new and has not been used, so if I'm going to root it, I'd like to do it before using it for anything.
So! That's my story. If anyone can offer advice, I'd appreciate it. Thank you!
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Welcome to XDA
Have a deep search on your devices sections, sure it has been discussed before.
Good luck
orb3000 said:
Welcome to XDA
Have a deep search on your devices sections, sure it has been discussed before.
Good luck
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Thank you!