Few questions before buying please ! - Samsung Galaxy Watch 3

Dears,
I already have a Gear S3 smartwatch and I really like it. I got a S21 Ultra 5G and I'm very happy by the association.
Recently, I've seen a very nice ad of the new Watch 3 and I'm interested in buying one in order to switch from my "old" Gear S3.
However, I would like to ask some questions before :
1) I live in Morocco, and based on the website, ECG and blood pressure aren't enabled yet in my country. But my phone is a DBT CSC (Germany). It is enough to activate those options on the watch ?
2) If not, there is a way to force it without loosing warranty ?
3) Can we finally and natively receive and display pictures in WhatsApp conversations without a third party app ?
4) How is the battery life ? My S3 allows up to 3 days without charging...
Thanks in advance !

kaalalto said:
Dears,
I already have a Gear S3 smartwatch and I really like it. I got a S21 Ultra 5G and I'm very happy by the association.
Recently, I've seen a very nice ad of the new Watch 3 and I'm interested in buying one in order to switch from my "old" Gear S3.
However, I would like to ask some questions before :
1) I live in Morocco, and based on the website, ECG and blood pressure aren't enabled yet in my country. But my phone is a DBT CSC (Germany). It is enough to activate those options on the watch ?
2) If not, there is a way to force it without loosing warranty ?
3) Can we finally and natively receive and display pictures in WhatsApp conversations without a third party app ?
4) How is the battery life ? My S3 allows up to 3 days without charging...
Thanks in advance !
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1 & 2) Have you considered selecting a region (already available on the watch) that has ECG and BP? Not sure what the native regions are if you buy from Morocco. Perhaps head to Samsung store and ask if they can demo what's available with factory reset. Then you wouldn't have to worry about warranty.
3) Yes. I can see the pictures directly on the watch when receiving whatsapp notification.
4) I find that it lasts around 3 days before charging or 5-6 days if I turn it off after getting home from work. Again, lots of features turned off like LTE, wifi and nfc to increase the battery life.
Not sure if yours is the classic or the frontier but there's been a post with a bit of user experience. Post
Experience:
I came from the S3 frontier and changed it for a number of reasons
- ECG/BP are gimmicks (nice to have but not dealbreaker).
- No MST but then a lot of new terminals use NFC so minimal issue
- S3 cannot use the new wireless charging pads while the watch 3 (I can charge my phone, buds and watch all at the same time)
- originally felt the S3 frontier lasts longer on a charge but gotten used to the GW3 and now pretty satisfied

Thanks for your clear message !
For the answers to 1 & 2, I just plan to buy the watch, I didn't bought it yet, so I'm asking before !
Right now I have an S3 frontier and I really like it, specially its battery life.
Edit : in case it can help, the model available in Morocco is the SM-R840NZKAMEA
It is possible to get BP and ECG with this model by flashing another region's firmware ?
Thanks !

BP and ECG truthfully are gimmicks. They seem to work well enough, but probably not for someone who would actually need to take regular readings.
Sammie is rumored to be coming out with a Galaxy Watch 4 for WearOS. I'd definitely wait to compare if I were you. Not many apps for Tizen.
Frankly, the GW3 promised a lot and delivered very little. The SPo2 feature is garbage, nor is the sleep tracking very good (probably related).

Your watch should come with a number of different countries. When you initially set up your watch (either using phone or standalone mode), you will be asked to first select language, and then select country. The country selection will be limited. That's the part where we don't know what country is available from the firmware installed and to make matters complicated, do not know which country has ECG & BP approved unless we look up those countries.
For #1, you can install the Samsung Health Monitor directly. Link
Caravana provided a SHM 1.1.0.167 v.5 mod.apk that has both ECG and BP. That's how I got mine started even. You may need to use the airplane mode to stop SHM from asking to update to latest version 1.1.0.189. I documented how I roughly got it working Link 2
At least with this method, you won't have to do flash to another country.

Many thanks for your replies.
About BP and ECG, I agree with you. I'm a doctor and I know that those options are just gimmicks in my point of view.
The real reason I want to switch is picture handling for WhatsApp discussion, that I miss in Gear S3. I know there is some additional apps I can install to have it, but supporting it natively would be better, specially for battery life I think.
However, I think I'll wait for the next release. I don't think Samsung will adopt Wear OS, as even its TV are running Tizen and not Android TV...but who knows !
Thanks again !

kaalalto said:
However, I think I'll wait for the next release. I don't think Samsung will adopt Wear OS, as even its TV are running Tizen and not Android TV...but who knows !
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Got it. I rushed out to get the GW3 because I thought the sleep tracking and SpO2 would be best-in-class. Unfortunately, those two features are barely functional.
And I can't even sync health data right now because my phone was rooted. That's just very, very poor on Sammie's part. Needless to say, that's not what I bargained for locking myself into a more limited ecosystem.
Really hoping now that Google bought Fitbit we'll have some real competition in smart watches.

kodiak799 said:
La TA et l'ECG sont vraiment des gadgets. Ils semblent fonctionner assez bien, mais probablement pas pour quelqu'un qui aurait réellement besoin de faire des lectures régulières.
La rumeur dit que Sammie sortira avec une Galaxy Watch 4 pour WearOS. J'attendrais certainement de comparer si j'étais vous. Pas beaucoup d'applications pour Tizen.
Franchement, le GW3 promettait beaucoup et livrait très peu. La fonction SPo2 est une poubelle, et le suivi du sommeil n'est pas très bon (probablement lié).
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Pour la mesure SPO2, c'est tout à fait faut ce que vous dites, si la sangle est bien serrée, la mesure est plus que correcte.

mario1959 said:
Pour la mesure SPO2, c'est tout à fait faut ce que vous dites, si la sangle est bien serrée, la mesure est plus que correcte.
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Disagree. I've tried loose and tighter than anyone would wear a watch, and the SpO2 readings are consistently inconsistent and generally a few points low. That has been the experience of many, many users. All the fingertip monitors out there register in seconds and just work.
And you can bet Sammie knows it's garbage because they've never delivered on their promise for sleep tracking. I've not tried, but I bet it would produce an error most of the time while laying down.
Granted, the ECG and BPM work surprisingly well. Whatever the reason, I doubt SpO2 will ever get fixed, if it even can.

Anyone who recently bought the GW3 or considering it should do a search for news on the Galaxy Watch 4. It's supposed to be running WearOS, so unless you're fairly price sensitive it's going to be a no-brainer to wait 2-3 months.
My GW3 will be for sale the day after the GW4 is released

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Personally, after the Note 3 DE fiasco, I would not even bother buying this.
Just a little poll to see how many more share my opinion.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...ition-verizon?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=dlvrit

SM-R850NZSAEUB versus SM-R850NZSAEUE

Hi,
I noticed that here in Germany, stores are selling both the SM-R850NZSAEUE and the SM-R850NZSAEUB.
My guess is that E is for the eastern-european market, and the B for West-Europe.
Does anyone know if there is any functional difference (availability of BP & EKG or Samsung Pay, for example) between the two?

Question S Pen pro

Anyone knows when S Pen pro will be available for S21 ultra?
Thx
Beso said:
Anyone knows when S Pen pro will be available for S21 ultra?
Thx
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Friday 27th August, but Amazon.de have it listed for €99.99.
Totally mental and destroyed my interest.
It will probably be around 70€ when it is out.
Beso said:
It will probably be around 70€ when it is out.
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It's the official price on Samsung and also on Amazon, Saturn and several other sites now.
It's a crazy mark up vs the normal S Pen, if it drops to €50 or I can get a discount somewhere I will get it but not at €99.99
Official Samsung
Para usarlo en el S21 Ultra, cuál es la diferencia entre el S Pen Pro y el otro...?
Translated by GT: To use it in the S21 Ultra, what is the difference between the S Pen Pro and the other ...?
s-pen pro brings the bluetooth to the S21 Ultra. Remote photo snap, gestures, warning for leaving it behind, etc.
S Pen pro is not worth any money IMHO. Had the BT S pen with Note 10+ and never used these additional features. I don't need that magic wand and the use looks kind of silly...

Question Will an international version be launched?

Information is unfortunately very scarce, but does anyone know whether we can expect this phone to be sold internationally with Google services?
It looks like a really good phone on paper and has an awesome feature that virtually all Android phones forego: Face ID. No idea why this is the case, I find it so super useful!
I think it's strange that they went through the effort of splintering off Honor from Huawei and then didn't bother to put Google services on the phone. Even if it's not a massive drawcard in China, I would have thought that they would have done so just to show that they're back in business.
Anyway, any info on a launch of a Google version?
Still no info unfortunately. All we got is the mediocre honor 50 and that's it. Hopefully it doesn't take much longer, although I wouldn't be surprised if it's not coming globally after all. There are already rumors of phones with the next gen Snapdragon chipset, so Honor better hurry up...
Update: there's a French article from a site that claims they have been informed by Honor that the Magic3 series isn't coming to France. I guess that means no global release after all.
Le Honor Magic 3 ne sortira finalement jamais en France
Honor l’a présenté il y a maintenant quelques semaines, en grande pompe avec une conférence mondiale, le Honor Magic 3 Series avec dedans le Magic 3, Magic 3 Pro et Magic 3 Pro Plus. Cependant, aucun de ces smartphones ne sortirait en France selon des informations que nous avons eu. Alors que le...
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jericho246 said:
Update: there's a French article from a site that claims they have been informed by Honor that the Magic3 series isn't coming to France. I guess that means no global release after all.
Le Honor Magic 3 ne sortira finalement jamais en France
Honor l’a présenté il y a maintenant quelques semaines, en grande pompe avec une conférence mondiale, le Honor Magic 3 Series avec dedans le Magic 3, Magic 3 Pro et Magic 3 Pro Plus. Cependant, aucun de ces smartphones ne sortirait en France selon des informations que nous avons eu. Alors que le...
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Merde!
Merci beaucoup!
Yeah, of course no international release cause we only got cheap phones here, so disappointing
i saw this today so i dont know if google services will be included with the update
Honor announces Magic UI 6.0, here is the update roadmap for current devices
The Magic V will have v6.0 out of the box, the Magic3 trio will be the first to get it as an update. As expected, the launch of the Honor Magic V also...
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Honor magic 4 series has been Google certified and is gonna be selling globally.
So I don't think that after this successor is launched the magic 3 series will ever get a Certification or international sales anymore.

Question Bought two 256gb units - Got different cameras and sensors

Hi folks.
I bought two devices of the new 256/8 version - both with exact same firmware and model codes.
After unpacking them and running HW Info on both, I realized that:
- One came with s5khm2_i_samsung (f1.9)
- The other came with s5khm2_ii_samsung f(1.89) - higher angle of view.
Also, I understood that the accelerometer/gyro are different in both devices.
- The first device includes includes a lsm6dso (STMicro supplier) with a power of 0.24+0.55 mA
- The second device includes icm42605 (TDK supplier) with a power of 0.24+0.57 mA.
The first device counts with 31 sensors and the second device counts with 32 (includes xiaomi free fall - apparently a disk damage prevention from falls, activated from the accelerometer)
The question is:
1) how to fully understand how different are the photographic capabilities of the main lens among the two devices?
2) can I expect relevantly higher power consumption from the TDK accelerometer/gyro?
Extra point - even though the screen panels are the same (from Samsung - code 38), the first device has a bit of a more reddish tint, less contrast but higher brightness, while the second device looks a bit dimmer but reveals better contrast.
Your inputs are greatly appreciated. Cheers!
Also shot two photos with the devices.
Maybe my eyes are failing, but can't see major differences, except perhaps that the shot on device 2 seems a bit more saturated.
Am I correct?
From what I know, there isn't a 256GB version of the Redmi Note 10 Pro at all.
jnsson said:
From what I know, there isn't a 256GB version of the Redmi Note 10 Pro at all.
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Well, I also just ordered the 256GB 8GB version. And I can't find any info about it, it's not mentioned anywhere in official specs.
I hope I won't have any problems with custom roms.
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www.mobileshop.eu
jnsson said:
From what I know, there isn't a 256GB version of the Redmi Note 10 Pro at all.
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It's a new version, 8/256 Gb with product code MZB0DF9EU.
I bought two units at Mediamarkt Spain for 239€ each. It can be seen in physical and online shops across Europe already - I've seen in Germany and Portugal too.
The production date is 10.2022.
The reason why Xiaomi stayed silent is perhaps the fact that this 256Gb would cannibalize the sales of the newer Redmi Note 11 Pro, which besides the inferior processor, only includes a maximum of 128 Gb and has a more expensive retail price.
Patoilo said:
It's a new version, 8/256 Gb with product code MZB0DF9EU.
I bought two units at Mediamarkt Spain for 239€ each. It can be seen in physical and online shops across Europe already - I've seen in Germany and Portugal too.
The production date is 10.2022.
The reason why Xiaomi stayed silent is perhaps the fact that this 256Gb would cannibalize the sales of the newer Redmi Note 11 Pro, which besides the inferior processor, only includes a maximum of 128 Gb and has a more expensive retail price.
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Damn, that's a good price, mine cost me 274€.
Does Dolby Atmos work? I've seen some reports it got broken in MIUI13.
hyperboarean said:
Damn, that's a good price, mine cost me 274€.
Does Dolby Atmos work? I've seen some reports it got broken in MIUI13.
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Even for 274€ is a great purchase. At 239€ really seemed a steal for the specs. Aren't you using it already?
Dolby Atmos is working perfectly on this MIUI 13.0.15. It is a lovely addition, making the sound richer and louder on the speakers.
And I can add that both speakers and 3.5mm jack sound louder than my Poco F2 Pro and X3 Pro.
It won't stay on MIUI much longer, as I applied for bootloader unlock straightaway. The 256gb version should not be a problem with custom ROMs. Will let you know if it is otherwise.
Enjoy your device
Patoilo said:
Even for 274€ is a great purchase. At 239€ really seemed a steal for the specs. Aren't you using it already?
Dolby Atmos is working perfectly on this MIUI 13.0.15. It is a lovely addition, making the sound richer and louder on the speakers.
And I can add that both speakers and 3.5mm jack sound louder than my Poco F2 Pro and X3 Pro.
It won't stay on MIUI much longer, as I applied for bootloader unlock straightaway. The 256gb version should not be a problem with custom ROMs. Will let you know if it is otherwise.
Enjoy your device
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Mine was shipped this morning, thanks for the Dolby info.
I was actually looking for something up to 500€, was really disappointed there's nothing special in that range (battery wise). Was considering 12 Lite, but I don't like new releases, you never know how good will the community support end.
jnsson said:
From what I know, there isn't a 256GB version of the Redmi Note 10 Pro at all.
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The Xiaomi's global page is finally acknowledging the 8/256 version
Redmi Note 10 Pro | Xiaomi Global
Redmi Note 10 Pro's main camera is equipped with dual native ISO, with higher dynamic range, richer details, and professional noise control.
www.mi.com
Patoilo said:
The Xiaomi's global page is finally acknowledging the 8/256 version
Redmi Note 10 Pro | Xiaomi Global
Redmi Note 10 Pro's main camera is equipped with dual native ISO, with higher dynamic range, richer details, and professional noise control.
www.mi.com
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HWinfo: M2101K6G / 256GB UFS 2.2 / 2022-10 (New Version) / Global Version / V13.0.14.0.SKFMIXM
Main camera: s5khm2_i_samsung
Gyroscope: TDK icm4x6xx
Charger: bq2597x
Proximity: Xiaomi
I am RedMine on Gsmarena.
Patoilo said:
The Xiaomi's global page is finally acknowledging the 8/256 version
Redmi Note 10 Pro | Xiaomi Global
Redmi Note 10 Pro's main camera is equipped with dual native ISO, with higher dynamic range, richer details, and professional noise control.
www.mi.com
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There are so many of these phone versions and names, mi, not mi, T, S, NE, pro, not pro, pro +..., 128GB, 64GB, 256GB, RAM 6GB, 8 GB, 12GB,... I doubt they even know what to put on their webpage. Some big guy at Xiaomi was reading this tread, that's why it got updated.
reticuli said:
HWinfo: M2101K6G / 256GB UFS 2.2 / 2022-10 (New Version) / Global Version / V13.0.14.0.SKFMIXM
Main camera: s5khm2_i_samsung
Gyroscope: TDK icm4x6xx
Charger: bq2597x
Proximity: Xiaomi
I am RedMine on Gsmarena.
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Cheers, mate.
Good to see you here as well. I see two boxes there. Did you also buy 2 units?
I opened a poll under the General folder, so we can keep track of the sensor mix from now on -> Sensor Lottery Poll
Patoilo said:
Cheers, mate.
Good to see you here as well. I see two boxes there. Did you also buy 2 units?
I opened a poll under the General folder, so we can keep track of the sensor mix from now on -> Sensor Lottery Poll
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Yes, bought 2 in case if one dies, good to buy now before they disappear from stores. =)
reticuli said:
Yes, bought 2 in case if one dies, good to buy now before they disappear from stores. =)
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Haha super. Exact same thinking here.
Got these two bad boys. Just seemed like the best value for money and better combo of large internal memory + SD expansion + big battery + nice AMOLED + cameras not too bad + FM Radio + 3.5mm jack.
Bought a 512gb SD card to go in it.
Now waiting for sunday to unlock the bootloader. Can't wait
So far, impressions are great and the device feels way more expensive than it costs. Hoping you guys enjoy it too.
hyperboarean said:
Well, I also just ordered the 256GB 8GB version. And I can't find any info about it, it's not mentioned anywhere in official specs.
I hope I won't have any problems with custom roms.
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Patoilo said:
MZB0DF9EU
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Patoilo said:
The Xiaomi's global page is finally acknowledging the 8/256 version
Redmi Note 10 Pro | Xiaomi Global
Redmi Note 10 Pro's main camera is equipped with dual native ISO, with higher dynamic range, richer details, and professional noise control.
www.mi.com
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reticuli said:
HWinfo: M2101K6G / 256GB UFS 2.2 / 2022-10 (New Version) / Global Version / V13.0.14.0.SKFMIXM
Main camera: s5khm2_i_samsung
Gyroscope: TDK icm4x6xx
Charger: bq2597x
Proximity: Xiaomi
I am RedMine on Gsmarena.
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Interesting! Isn't even on GSMArena https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_10_pro-10662.php
jnsson said:
Interesting! Isn't even on GSMArena https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_10_pro-10662.php
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It actually is, has a dedicated page.
Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Pro - Full phone specifications
m.gsmarena.com
But if you click review link it sends you to 10 non pro.
hyperboarean said:
It actually is, has a dedicated page.
Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Pro - Full phone specifications
m.gsmarena.com
But if you click review link it sends you to 10 non pro.
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No, That's Mi note 10 Pro, not Redmi Note 10 Pro https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_note_10_pro-9945.php
jnsson said:
No, That's Mi note 10 Pro, not Redmi Note 10 Pro https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_note_10_pro-9945.php
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God damn it
Patoilo said:
Even for 274€ is a great purchase. At 239€ really seemed a steal for the specs. Aren't you using it already?
Dolby Atmos is working perfectly on this MIUI 13.0.15. It is a lovely addition, making the sound richer and louder on the speakers.
And I can add that both speakers and 3.5mm jack sound louder than my Poco F2 Pro and X3 Pro.
It won't stay on MIUI much longer, as I applied for bootloader unlock straightaway. The 256gb version should not be a problem with custom ROMs. Will let you know if it is otherwise.
Enjoy your device
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Hello, any custom rom you could recommend for 8/256 variant? any problems you encounter installing recovery, roms etc..?
Patoilo said:
Jaja súper. Exactamente el mismo pensamiento aquí.
Tengo a estos dos chicos malos. Parecía la mejor relación calidad-precio y una mejor combinación de memoria interna grande + expansión SD + batería grande + buen AMOLED + cámaras no tan malas + radio FM + conector de 3,5 mm.
Compré una tarjeta SD de 512 gb para entrar.
Ahora a esperar el domingo para desbloquear el bootloader. no puedo esperar
Hasta ahora, las impresiones son excelentes y el dispositivo se siente mucho más caro de lo que cuesta. Espero que ustedes también lo disfruten.
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Olvidate de roms personalizadas
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Forget custom roms

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