Downgrading from 5.1 to 4.4.4 - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is it possible to downgrade the Android version from 5.1 to 4.4.4 on my Moto X Gen 2 (XT1097)? If so, what are the steps?

zuhyl said:
Is it possible to downgrade the Android version from 5.1 to 4.4.4 on my Moto X Gen 2 (XT1097)? If so, what are the steps?
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It should be possible if the bootloader is unlocked but see this thread.
[WARNING] Do NOT Downgrade Your Bootloader or Partition Table - You Risk Bricking!!!
BEFORE YOU COMMENT ON THIS THREAD - PLEASE READ THIS POST AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE BOOTLOADER, PARTITION TABLE, SYSTEM AND KERNEL/RAMDISK!!!! This post is not about downgrading from lollipop to kit kat in general. It is...
forum.xda-developers.com
Edit: If you are able to downgrade, do not allow OTA update,
that will brick the device.
Probably not much risk of an OTA anymore though.
Moto likely has turned removed any OTAs from update servers.

sd_shadow said:
It should be possible if the bootloader is unlocked but see this thread.
[WARNING] Do NOT Downgrade Your Bootloader or Partition Table - You Risk Bricking!!!
BEFORE YOU COMMENT ON THIS THREAD - PLEASE READ THIS POST AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE BOOTLOADER, PARTITION TABLE, SYSTEM AND KERNEL/RAMDISK!!!! This post is not about downgrading from lollipop to kit kat in general. It is...
forum.xda-developers.com
Edit: If you are able to downgrade, do not allow OTA update,
that will brick the device.
Probably not much risk of an OTA anymore though.
Moto likely has turned removed any OTAs from update servers.
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I do not plan on updating it, so that's not a concern. But how can I downgrade it?

zuhyl said:
I do not plan on updating it, so that's not a concern. But how can I downgrade it?
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Read that thread, it should be in there somewhere.

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[Q] Moto X Dev Ed questions about root

Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum, though I have used a lot of information posted, this is my first post. Please, bear with me on this!
I have a Moto X Developer Edition running 4.2.2 on Verizon network. I don't mind 4.2.2 but I would enjoy updating to kit kat, my only concern is that when I do so I am no longer able to use FoxFi. I have unlimited data so it is important to me to have the ability to run the hotspot.
What I would like to accomplish with root:
Upgrade to Kit Kat
Run stock hotspot, use the 5GHz hotspot frequency band, and bypass provisions from Verizon just like FoxFi does.
I would like to also be able to revert back to the current state I am at now, whenever I want. (4.2.2 etc)
I am super excited to start playing with my dev ed phone but I want to do it right, and like I said I would like to revert back to an unrooted state with 4.2.2 with no issues, then reapply the root when I feel necessary. (don't know if this is possible)
If this all sounds possible please feel free to help me and you will not regret it. Thanks in advance!
Did Doe said:
Run stock hotspot and bypass provisions from Verizon just like FoxFi does.
Use the 5GHz hotspot frequency band
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Once you are on 4.4 and rooted, you can use either the Xposed Tethering Module or the Native tether for VZW DE 4.4 Hack
Did Doe said:
I would like to also be able to revert back to the current state I am at now, whenever I want. (4.2.2 etc)
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Once on 4.4, you can downgrade to 4.2.2 post-camera update by flashing the firmware. Make sure you only go back to the 4.2.2 post-camera update and not the pre-camera update. Trying to downgrade from 4.4. to the 4.2.2 pre-camera update will brick your device.
Once you upgrade to the 4.4.2 bootloader, you cannot downgrade so don't take the 4.4.2 OTA. Rather, you want to stay on the 4.4 bootloader (since it is the only downgradable bootloader) and selectively flash the 4.4.2 firmware once it is released if you want to run 4.4.2.
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The only OTA that can downgrade is 4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam. Here is what we know right now that might make more sense
4.4 to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick
4.2.2 Post Cam to 4.2.2 Pre Cam will Brick.
4.4.2 to to anything will Brick
4.4 to 4.2.2 Post Cam you are ok
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Be sure and read this thread:
WARNING
Good start!
Cozume said:
Once you are on 4.4 and rooted, you can use either xposed module or the Native tether for VZW DE 4.4 Hack
Once on 4.4, you can downgrade to 4.2.2 post camera update by flashing the firmware. Make sure you only go back to the 4.2.2 post camera update and not the precamera update. Trying to downgrade from 4.4. to 4.2.2 precamera update will brick your device.
Once you go to 4.4.2 bootloader, you cannot downgrade so don't take the 4.4.2 OTA.
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This is useful information, but I was hoping for a bit more detailed walk through. I know that this post is going to get viewed a ton of times, so I will not be the only one that benefits from this. Thanks for the advise on how not to brick this is very important to me.
Good post but dig deeper people!
Did Doe said:
This is useful information, but I was hoping for a bit more detailed walk through. I know that this post is going to get viewed a ton of times, so I will not be the only one that benefits from this. Thanks for the advise on how not to brick this is very important to me.
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I put the link to the Xposed Tethering Module in my response to you.
Anyhow, everything you want to do can be done as long as by 4.2.2 you mean the 4.2.2 post-camera update. If by 4.2.2 you mean the pre-camera update, you cannot downgrade the 4.2.2 post-camera bootloader nor can you downgrade the 4.4 bootloader beyond the 4.2.2 post-camera update so you can't go from the 4.2.2 pre-camera update to Kit Kat and ever go back down to it.
Cozume said:
I put the link to the Xposed Tethering Module in my response to you.
Anyhow, everything you want to do can be done as long as by 4.2.2 you mean the 4.2.2 post-camera update. If by 4.2.2 you mean the pre-camera update, you cannot downgrade the 4.2.2 post-camera bootloader nor can you downgrade the 4.4 bootloader beyond the 4.2.2 post-camera update so you can't go from the 4.2.2 pre-camera update to Kit Kat and ever go back down to it.
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I have not update or messed with the phone in anyway. So does that mean I have 4.2.2 pre camera? I think I already mention how excited I am to get started with the tinkering.
Did Doe said:
I have not update or messed with the phone in anyway. So does that mean I have 4.2.2 pre camera? I think I already mention how excited I am to get started with the tinkering.
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What version does your phone say you are on?
You start by taking the 4.4 OTA. How are you blocking the annoying update messages, btw?
Also, are you unlocked already? Get unlocked if you haven't already but that wipes your device so get everything off of your device that you want off before you unlock the bootloader. Then once you are unlocked and have taken the 4.4 OTA, you can follow these instructions to get rooted.
Step-by-step instructions to get your Moto X Dev Ed running 4.4 unlocked and rooted
Cozume said:
What version does your phone say you are on?
You start by taking the 4.4 OTA. How are you blocking the annoying update messages, btw?
Also, are you unlocked already? Get unlocked if you haven't already but that wipes your device so get everything off of your device that you want off before you unlock the bootloader. Then once you are unlocked and have taken the 4.4 OTA, you can follow these instructions to get rooted.
Step-by-step instructions to get your Moto X Dev Ed running 4.4 unlocked and rooted
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And how am I supposed to go back to 4.2.2?
Cozume said:
What version does your phone say you are on?
You start by taking the 4.4 OTA. How are you blocking the annoying update messages, btw?
Also, are you unlocked already? Get unlocked if you haven't already but that wipes your device so get everything off of your device that you want off before you unlock the bootloader. Then once you are unlocked and have taken the 4.4 OTA, you can follow these instructions to get rooted.
Step-by-step instructions to get your Moto X Dev Ed running 4.4 unlocked and rooted
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I have just ignored the update and my phone says I'm on 4.2.2. Its the stock OTA
Did Doe said:
And how am I supposed to go back to 4.2.2?
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To go back to 4.2.2 POST-camera, you flash the firmware for 4.2.2.
sbf firmware
You can never go back to 4.2.2 PRE-camera once you update beyond it.
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Did Doe said:
I have just ignored the update and my phone says I'm on 4.2.2. Its the stock OTA
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What version of the 4.2.2? Go into settings and about phone and status and it will tell you.
Did Doe said:
I have just ignored the update and my phone says I'm on 4.2.2. Its the stock OTA
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I see you're excited to tinker,so unless you want a paperweight, I suggest you do some homework first.
Everything you are asking for is already here in stickies, other threads and hundreds of posts.
You can say I'm being a jerk...but trust me, if you don't study up on this stuff you will one day regret it. There's tonnes of info here already.
Us "digging deeper" to lay it out for you isn't going to give you any of the tools to do this stuff trouble free. Just read about all the bricked devices and you'll see what I'm trying to say.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
kj2112 said:
Everything you are asking for is already here in stickies, other threads and hundreds of posts.
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And if you only had hundreds of free hours to read them you would be good to go.
Cozume said:
To go back to 4.2.2 POST-camera, you flash the firmware for 4.2.2.
sbf firmware
You can never go back to 4.2.2 PRE-camera once you update beyond it.
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What version of the 4.2.2? Go into settings and about phone and status and it will tell you.
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139.10.53.ghost verizon
Did Doe said:
139.10.53.ghost verizon
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If you go back to the sbf firmware link above, you will see that is the pre-camera version of 4.2.2 because it is the lower number of the two 4.2.2 versions. Again, you can never go back to that once you update. It is a one way street.
I don't know if the post-camera 4.2.2 allowed native tethering without root because I didn't stay on that version long enough to know. I wanted kit kat.
The pre-camera update camera is unusable. Don't know how you could stay on it.
Cozume said:
If you go back to the sbf firmware link above, you will see that is the pre-camera version of 4.2.2 because it is the lower number of the two 4.2.2 versions. Again, you can never go back to that once you update. It is a one way street.
I don't know if the post-camera 4.2.2 allowed native tethering without root because I didn't stay on that version long enough to know. I wanted kit kat.
The pre-camera update camera is unusable. Don't know how you could stay on it.
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Its stock OTA. I have been just ignoring the update. I will update. Unlock root then flash the post cam and I'll will let you know how it goes. If I have more question I'll let you know. Till then.. Thanks!
I've had a cleanup here guys and I'd prefer not to have to return for the same reasons.
I've you've got nothing constructive to add to the thread, don't even bother posting here.
Cozume said:
And if you only had hundreds of free hours to read them you would be good to go.
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Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!Thank you!
Even though we had a nuisance, you guided me to a victorious root!!!!!
Now I shall work on the tether. I will let you know what I get.
Thanks again
Cozume said:
If you go back to the sbf firmware link above, you will see that is the pre-camera version of 4.2.2 because it is the lower number of the two 4.2.2 versions. Again, you can never go back to that once you update. It is a one way street.
I don't know if the post-camera 4.2.2 allowed native tethering without root because I didn't stay on that version long enough to know. I wanted kit kat.
The pre-camera update camera is unusable. Don't know how you could stay on it.
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All went extremely well. Updated. I unlocked my phone. Rooted. Got the tether working. Went back to 4.2.2 and now I am back rooted on kit kat. Thank you, you are beautiful!!!

[Q] Does anyone know how to relock BOOTLOADER in Moto X XT1058 with Android 4.4.3.?

I need to block BOOTLOADER my moto x on Android 4.4.3. After the update the error. In Android 4.4.2 worked. Now there's more
Christian Correia said:
I need to block BOOTLOADER my moto x on Android 4.4.3. After the update the error. In Android 4.4.2 worked. Now there's more
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If you want to lock it:
fastboot oem lock
But there is absolutely no reason to do that. You don't gain any functionality by re-locking (you actually LOSE functionality), and Moto still knows you previously unlocked.
You can NEVER change your status back to "Locked". Once you unlock, status changes to "Unlocked", and if you subsequently re-lock the status changes to "Re-Locked".
I'm really curious why you would want to to re-lock. Your post really doesn't make any sense....
Good Luck
Thank you friend. I get more p following error: No valid block in SP PIV system is
piv validation failed (system)
Re-lock failure
Christian Correia said:
Thank you friend. I get more p following error: No valid block in SP PIV system is
piv validation failed (system)
Re-lock failure
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What did you do?
This didn't happen by itself. Give us some background info - what are you trying to accomplish, and at what point did your phone get in the state it is in now?
Also, re-locking bootloader will not help with whatever it is you are trying to accomplish.....which I still don't understand.
Okay, thanks I'll leave it the way it is. Since Motorola deebloqueei I know him. Answer me one thing, BOOTLOADER unlocked Smartphone affects the performance or something.?
Christian Correia said:
Okay, thanks I'll leave it the way it is. Since Motorola deebloqueei I know him. Answer me one thing, BOOTLOADER unlocked Smartphone affects the performance or something.?
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No, it does not affect performance. It allows you to root your device easily, and (optionally) flash custom roms and custom recovery.
Are you trying to upgrade or downgrade? I still don't understand your problem...
I wanted to downgrade to 4.4.2. And I did and I upgraded to 4.4.3 via OTA. Most wanted the complete 4.4.3 firmware update because I think it detracted. And so I thought it was because of the BOOTLOADER. I'm a bit newbie in this regard
Christian Correia said:
I wanted to downgrade to 4.4.2. And I did and I upgraded to 4.4.3 via OTA. Most wanted the complete 4.4.3 firmware update because I think it detracted. And so I thought it was because of the BOOTLOADER. I'm a bit newbie in this regard
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NEVER NEVER attempt to downgrade. It is well documented that you can permanently brick your phone if you try.
If you want to flash the entire 4.4.3 STOCK IMAGE, you can do that!!!
Follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515
You can find the STOCK IMAGES here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
MAKE SURE you use the correct image for YOUR carrier and version.
EDIT: The only 4.4.3 image that has been released is for T-Mobile. If you are not on T-Mobile, DO NOT attempt the process I outlined above. Just wait until the image for YOUR CARRIER becomes available.
Again, whatever you do, do NOT attempt to downgrade.
Friend could not find version 4.4.3 for my Moto X XT1058. As I do now.?
Christian Correia said:
Friend could not find version 4.4.3 for my Moto X XT1058. As I do now.?
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The only 4.4.3 complete stock image that has been released is for T-Mobile XT1053. If you are not on T-Mobile, DO NOT attempt the process I outlined above. Just wait until the image for YOUR CARRIER becomes available.
Again, whatever you do, do NOT attempt to downgrade.
It looks like you will have to wait until the new 4.4.3 image for your XT1058 becomes available.

[closed] 4.4.4 Downgrade Possibility

Okay, I have to ask. Has anyone successfully downgraded a 4.4.4 KitKat Moto X (2013) to a previous firmware version?
I have the XT1058 "ghost" if that matters.
Seriously? This has only been covered nearly everyday since 4.4.2 became available. In other words, the answers are out there if you simply open your eyes or search.
No not possible to downgrade from 4.4.4
Yes, but for every one that claim they did.... 10 others have bricked.
And the ones that say they downgraded OK, may be in for a bad surprise next time they take an ota.
So, don't... Unless you are able to replace it if you need to. ?
Darth said:
Yes, but for every one that claim they did.... 10 others have bricked.
And the ones that say they downgraded OK, may be in for a bad surprise next time they take an ota.
So, don't... Unless you are able to replace it if you need to. ?
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This is the info I wanted. Thanks.
Hi, my phone is xt1056, BL unlocked, I was fully flashed (enabled all the options in the xml file) the ghost_sprint-user-4.4.4-KXA21.12-L1.28-28-release-keys-cid9.xml with rsd to upgrade 4.4.4 once.
Then I fully flashed my xt1056 with the xt1060 rom (VZW_XT1060_4.4.2-KXA20.16-1.25.2_CFC_1FF.xml) in rsd. Now the phone is 4.4.2 and no signal, but it is 4.4.2, I can get my SPC with the app SPCUtility.apk.
After get my SPC, I was fully flashed the xt1056 (ghost_sprint-user-4.4.4-KXA21.12-L1.28-28-release-keys-cid9.xml with rsd to upgrade 4.4.4) again and works well (need to unlock the network again).
It really doesn't help me that you have the Sprint version. The AT&T bootloader can't be unlocked. At least not to my knowledge.
Downgrading with an unlocked bootloader is no different than locked... Extremely dangerous.
And the poster above who downgraded, then upgraded again... I would not take any OTA's going forward. Or you might get an unfortunate surprise.
DarkWolffe said:
It really doesn't help me that you have the Sprint version. The AT&T bootloader can't be unlocked. At least not to my knowledge.
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If you have 4.4.4 on an ATT device, right its bootloader can not be unlocked at this point.
As for flashing, as many have said IT IS NOT SAFE to downgrade, unlocked and locked bootloader included.
There are parts that are included with 4.4.2 and up that prevent downgrading. Because of this, under certain circumstances when trying to downgrade (like from 4.4.2 to 4.4 or lower, or 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 or lower), you could either brick your phone, or set it up to brick in the future when you take an upgrade.
In the case of some who have bricked by downgrading, flashing the latest (4.4.4 currently) SBF via mFastboot commands, with a few extra steps, has been enough to revive the phone. Other times, not.
For as many stories you might see of "its safe" or "I've done it", a future OTA will likely get them. Plus there are many more who have created "I bricked when trying to downgrade, HELP!!" threads.
A few Examples of bricked while downgrading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/xt-1053-to4-4-4-to-4-4-3-prob-wit-t2967182
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/expert-opinion-to-stock-t2944721
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/totally-bricked-t2952064
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/load-os-moto-x-t2942785
(keep looking in the Q&A section, or General section, you'll see lots more of them!)
And why do you think this thread exists? -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-resurrecting-bricked-moto-x-t2629057
I'll quote myself from another thread (in reply to someone that had an Unlocked bootloader)...
KidJoe said:
The moto x is not a nexus device. Unlike gaining S-off on an HTC phone, unlocking the bootloader on a moto x doesn't disable its security checks.
You can't downgrade got.bin and motoboot.img, or their internal components due to the phone's security checks.
People try downgrade by skipping those, BUT too often people brick when attempting this, or taking an OTA update in this state.
When you have mismatched parts on the phone, things don't work (like the issue of going settings-> security kicking you out) and you are at risk for bricking.
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Again, this info applies whether you have an unlocked or locked bootloader.
So it is suggested you just stick with what is on your phone once you get on 4.4.2 or newer.
KidJoe said:
If you have 4.4.4 on an ATT device, right its bootloader can not be unlocked at this point.
As for flashing, as many have said IT IS NOT SAFE to downgrade, unlocked and locked bootloader included.
There are parts that are included with 4.4.2 and up that prevent downgrading. Because of this, under certain circumstances when trying to downgrade (like from 4.4.2 to 4.4 or lower, or 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 or lower), you could either brick your phone, or set it up to brick in the future when you take an upgrade.
In the case of some who have bricked by downgrading, flashing the latest (4.4.4 currently) SBF via mFastboot commands, with a few extra steps, has been enough to revive the phone. Other times, not.
For as many stories you might see of "its safe" or "I've done it", a future OTA will likely get them. Plus there are many more who have created "I bricked when trying to downgrade, HELP!!" threads.
A few Examples of bricked while downgrading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/xt-1053-to4-4-4-to-4-4-3-prob-wit-t2967182
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/expert-opinion-to-stock-t2944721
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/totally-bricked-t2952064
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/load-os-moto-x-t2942785
(keep looking in the Q&A section, or General section, you'll see lots more of them!)
And why do you think this thread exists? -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-resurrecting-bricked-moto-x-t2629057
I'll quote myself from another thread (in reply to someone that had an Unlocked bootloader)...
Again, this info applies whether you have an unlocked or locked bootloader.
So it is suggested you just stick with what is on your phone once you get on 4.4.2 or newer.
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Perfect answer. Thank you for the clarity.

[Q] Go from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 Unlocked, rooted, twrp

I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
dukeoid said:
I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
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Well I too have a Dev Edition but is SIM-Unlocked so it isn't Verizon.
If all you want to do is update, you could install Custom ROM although you will lose Motorola's Active Display, Always Listening etc...
If you want complete stock and have to reflash TWRP and root your phone, you will need to flash the stock firmware using fastboot or a utility.
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
Alecegonce101 said:
Well I too have a Dev Edition but is SIM-Unlocked so it isn't Verizon.
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Um, all VZW Moto Xs are SIM-unlocked.
dukeoid said:
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
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I hope it wasn't the pre-camera 4.2.2....or you might be in a tough spot now.... Risking a brick. ?
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Unless the first firmware was also pre camera... Then you're OK.
dukeoid said:
I have new Verizon Moto X Dev Edition. Messed up. Thought it was already on 4.4.2. Not, it's on 4.2.2. Unlocked bootloader and installed twrp and rooted. Wanting to update it to 4.4.2. Thinking from reading that I need to get back to stock recovery for OTA update if that is possible over wifi since phone is not activated yet. Can't find 4.2.2 stock recovery and not sure if that is what I need to do anyway. Is that what I need to do and/or is there a better way? Thanks
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dukeoid said:
Finally found 4.2.2 . When trying RSD fail at gpt bin, also fails there with manual flashing. Any ideas?
Edit...Finally got it. Different version of 4.2.2 did it.
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Taking OTA's is incremental, so if you are the initial shipping 4.2.2 you need to take the first 4.2.2 w/camera OTA, then the 4.4 OTA, then the 4.4.2 OTA... a real time waster and pain in the rear.
Best way... Grab the SBF for the version you want to be on, and flash it... i.e. you mention going to 4.4.2, so... grab the 4.4.2 SBF and flash it.
Since you have a Dev Edition, why not just go to 4.4.4? it has a few bug fixes, and is stable. For me and many others its no worse than 4.4.2 as far as performance and battery.
Once you arrive on the ROM you want, you can flash TWRP and root.
KidJoe said:
Best way... Grab the SBF for the version you want to be on, and flash it... i.e. you mention going to 4.4.2, so... grab the 4.4.2 SBF and flash it.
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OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
dukeoid said:
OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
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Yup! ?
As long as it's not a lower version.
dukeoid said:
OTA'ed to 4.4.2. But for future reference you can skip versions and SBF to the one you want??
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OTA = Incremental. Only patches the changed/updated parts.
SBF/FXZ = "all inclusive" or "image files".. and overwrites entire partitions/parts.
So yes. You can just flash the newer SBF file. (As @Darth said... as long as the SBF you are flashing is NEWER than the version on your phone... i.e. NEVER DOWNGRADE)

[Q] KitKat Stock Downgrade

Noob question: can I downgrade xt1064 from official 5.0.2 to official 4.4.4 safely?
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shad876 said:
Noob question: can I downgrade xt1064 from official 5.0.2 to official 4.4.4 safely?
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Yes!
Use the tools that are in General.
I've done it, and everything worked perfectly.
shad876 said:
Noob question: can I downgrade xt1064 from official 5.0.2 to official 4.4.4 safely?
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Yes, check this link out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...dows-tool-moto-g-2014-xt1064-restore-t2957167
Post if you have any queries or doubts
dakshay95 said:
Yes, check this link out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...dows-tool-moto-g-2014-xt1064-restore-t2957167
Post if you have any queries or doubts
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So will I be able to update via OTA after?
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shad876 said:
So will I be able to update via OTA after?
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Yes. Try it and check for updates on your phone once you're done
dakshay95 said:
Yes. Try it and check for updates on your phone once you're done
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Okay great! Thanks guys!
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Update: worked like a charm guys. I'm back on official kk..
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shad876 said:
Update: worked like a charm guys. I'm back on official kk..
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Great. Btw when you go to settings and check for updates, does it tell you that Lollipop is available for update?
dakshay95 said:
Great. Btw when you go to settings and check for updates, does it tell you that Lollipop is available for update?
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Yes it does
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I also want to go back to kikat but afraid of break. Can i downgrade plz help me i wanna go back to official 4.4.4
amritmalviya said:
I also want to go back to kikat but afraid of break. Can i downgrade plz help me i wanna go back to official 4.4.4
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You can read it above, you can do it if you are on 5.0.2. If you are on 6.x you have to be careful not to downgrade the bootloader and never ever update via OTA!
(Infos about downgrading android versions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/xt1063-t3018818
But if you´re on 5.0.2 you should be on the safe side.
how to prevent bootloader not to downgraded?
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Wolfcity said:
You can read it above, you can do it if you are on 5.0.2. If you are on 6.x you have to be careful not to downgrade the bootloader and never ever update via OTA!
(Infos about downgrading android versions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/xt1063-t3018818
But if you´re on 5.0.2 you can read the postings of people who did it sucessful right above.
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how to prevent bootloader not to downgraded?
amritmalviya said:
how to prevent bootloader not to downgraded?
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how to prevent bootloader not to downgraded?
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You can read that in the link given above:
Lollipop 5.0.2 to Kitkat 4.4.4 : If your bootloader version is 4882/4883(Lollipop Bootloader), you need to make some changes while flashing the ROM manually.
- Download Kitkat 4.4.4 Factory Firmware image zip.
- Unzip the contents.
- Delete the motoboot.img file inside the extracted contents..
- Do not type "mfastboot.exe flash motoboot motoboot.img" while flashing the Kitkat 4.4.4 firmware image manually.
4. If you downgrade your bootloader version i.e flash a 4883 Lollipop bootloader on your existing 4886 Marshmallow bootloader, your phone will be hard-bricked / permanently dead. Therefore follow the instructions above carefully. I am not responsible for dead phones.
You´ll find a lot of infos about that in the general section. Read all that carefully, downgrading stock is a tricky thing.
I personally would flash a custom rom.
Wolfcity said:
You can read that in the link given above:
Lollipop 5.0.2 to Kitkat 4.4.4 : If your bootloader version is 4882/4883(Lollipop Bootloader), you need to make some changes while flashing the ROM manually.
- Download Kitkat 4.4.4 Factory Firmware image zip.
- Unzip the contents.
- Delete the motoboot.img file inside the extracted contents..
- Do not type "mfastboot.exe flash motoboot motoboot.img" while flashing the Kitkat 4.4.4 firmware image manually.
4. If you downgrade your bootloader version i.e flash a 4883 Lollipop bootloader on your existing 4886 Marshmallow bootloader, your phone will be hard-bricked / permanently dead. Therefore follow the instructions above carefully. I am not responsible for dead phones.
You´ll find a lot of infos about that in the general section. Read all that carefully, downgrading stock is a tricky thing.
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sorry for trouble you but please answer my more questions.....
on bootloader 4886 i can flash lollipop and KitKat both....
and main thing is not to downgrade bootloader, isn't it?
amritmalviya said:
sorry for trouble you but please answer my more questions.....
on bootloader 4886 i can flash lollipop and KitKat both....
and main thing is not to downgrade bootloader, isn't it?
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That´s right. But never upgrade via OTA again then because OTA doesn´t care about bootloaderversion and will hardbrick your phone.
If you down/upgrade stock rom you´ll have always to spare out boot.img (if you do it by using the commands one by one or if you do it by script. You have to delete the flash boot.img command out of the script/tool then).
This is only relevant for stock roms,custom roms doesn´t have this problem.
Wolfcity said:
That´s right. But never upgrade via OTA again then because OTA doesn´t care about bootloaderversion and will hardbrick your phone.
If you down/upgrade stock rom you´ll have always to spare out boot.img (if you do it by using the commands one by one or if you do it by script. You have to delete the flash boot.img command out of the script/tool then).
This is only relevant for stock roms,custom roms doesn´t have this problem.
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I have to skip just motoboot.img????????????
amritmalviya said:
I have to skip just motoboot.img????????????
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That´s what´s written in the "[GUIDE] [Titan] [MM, LP, KK] [Unlock + Root + Backup + Restore + Downgrade" thread and that´s what I know about that.
motoboot.img is the bootloader and if you don´t touch it you should be on the safe side.
I personally am on custom roms since 5.0.2 and have never flashed/downgraded/upgraded a stock rom again so I have no personal experience.
If you wanna be 100% sure ask @SharkcpN, the one who wrote that thread.
You can safely downgrade by skipping motoboot.img while flashing.
Once you downgrade to a lower android version, do not install any further OTA updates of higher Android version else it might lead to hardbrick. After downgrading, go to Settings > Apps > MotorolaOTA > Disable it
If you want to update to a higher android version, flash the higher android version ROM via fastboot mode only.

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