Unlocked P5 doesn't equal rootable P5. Got that. Don't ask how I know...
Sooooooo... How do I find a P5 with an unlockable BL? And is functional with VZW, ATT, and the other nasties?
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AFAIK, buying the Pixel 5 from the Google store doesn't guarantee the bootloader can be unlocked. It's my understanding Google isn't a friendly on this point as they have been. Or I've believed another rumor...
RBEmerson said:
AFAIK, buying the Pixel 5 from the Google store doesn't guarantee the bootloader can be unlocked. It's my understanding Google isn't a friendly on this point as they have been. Or I've believed another rumor...
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The Google store sells 3 models of Pixel 5. Google, Fi, and Verizon. Only the Verizon model is not unlockable. The other 2 are and probably will always be.
Do you have the model number for the Google version? I assume Fi's going to be the same.
VZW is GD9YQ , which is, for sure, not unlockable. DAHIK
RBEmerson said:
Do you have the model number for the Google version? I assume Fi's going to be the same.
VZW is GD9YQ , which is, for sure, not unlockable. DAHIK
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That is incorrect, sorry. I have a Google bought Pixel 5 and my wife got the Verizon model on a trade-in. Both are GD1YQ. From what I can understand the only way to determine is to look at the OEM switch after enabling developer options.
When you purchase the phone it will give you the option of the 3. I bought mine from Google for this very reason. People have bought the unlocked phone from Google, received a non-unlockable phone and sent it back. Easy peasy. Just checked the website again. You want the unlocked version... The other screen is my model
Why are you asking this question again? Were the replies in your other thread not enough?
Can the Google Store Pixel 5 bootloader be unlocked?
I've posted the question: "Can the Google Store Pixel 5 bootloader be unlocked?" in rooting threads and gotten no reply. The model number is the GD1YQ
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Buy it from the Google store and do not select the Verizon option even if you're going to use it with Verizon service.
Personally I bought from Amazon again not specifying the carrier as Verizon and was able to unlock the bootloader.
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I have a Pixel 5 bought on eBay as an "open box". The thing's awake and generally no obvious signs of problems. But... I want to root it and OEM unlock is grey. Grrr...
I did a "reboot bootloader" and... bootloader "locked".
I assumed (silly me) this thing would be carrier agnostic. It's not.
So... What carrier uses GD1YQ? Let me guess... VZW
If it's not VZW or someone equally evil, how do unlock the bootloader?
BTW, V11 is loaded.
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I have a Pixel 5 bought on eBay as an "open box". The thing's awake and generally no obvious signs of problems. But... I want to root it and OEM unlock is grey. Grrr...
I did a "reboot bootloader" and... bootloader "locked".
I assumed (silly me) this thing would be carrier agnostic. It's not.
So... What carrier uses GD1YQ? Let me guess... VZW
If it's not VZW or someone equally evil, how do unlock the bootloader?
BTW, V11 is loaded.
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If oem unlock is greyed out, you can't unlock the bootloader.
I got that far,. Some of what I've found with Google suggests this isn't cast in concrete.
I rooted a Samsung S7 from Verizon, which means "don't so much as think about it". NTL the Sammy is rooted and has been for I forget how long.
Am I even more locked out with this unit? Again, does anyone have an idea about which carrier, if any, is associated with QD1YQ? If I read it correctly, some carriers will unlock the bootloader if the owner shows up, phone in hand.
The GD1YQ model is the Google Store model. It's carrier agnostic. Yea.
AFAIK the bootloader can't be unlocked. WTF
is there an image flashing tool for pixel similar to ODIN? otherwise probably no way around VZW crap.
RBEmerson said:
The GD1YQ model is the Google Store model. It's carrier agnostic. Yea.
AFAIK the bootloader can't be unlocked. WTF
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Is this true was about to buy that model.So bootloader is locked and it's from Google not Verizon.
AtrixHDMan said:
Is this true was about to buy that model. So bootloader is locked and it's from Google not Verizon.
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I've bought a GD1YQ on eBay and had no problem unlocking the bootloader, so it's not just the model number.
kfhughes said:
I've bought a GD1YQ on eBay and had no problem unlocking the bootloader, so it's not just the model number.
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I don't understand.The seller is saying it's from Google.So you think the bootloader can be unlocked or not.No returns.
AtrixHDMan said:
I don't understand.The seller is saying it's from Google.So you think the bootloader can be unlocked or not.No returns.
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I have no idea. Other threads recommend asking that the seller post a photo showing that the OEM unlocking is not grayed out.
kfhughes said:
I have no idea. Other threads recommend asking that the seller post a photo showing that the OEM unlocking is not grayed out.
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Thanks that want happened.Maybe just save up and buy from Google directly.Thanks.
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I have no idea. Other threads recommend asking that the seller post a photo showing that the OEM unlocking is not grayed out.
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Exactly! If the seller can't demonstrate OEM Unlock isn't greyed out, say "thank you". Then walk away, very far away.
About the model GD1YQ,, I couldn't find one that is unlocked. Buying from Google doesn't guarantee the thing's unlocked. AFAIK, Google is less kind about unlocking than earlier. OTOH, I could wrong about that.
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I don't understand.The seller is saying it's from Google.So you think the bootloader can be unlocked or not.No returns.
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Google sells a Verizon branded phone on the Google store. That device is not unlockable.
bobby janow said:
Google sells a Verizon branded phone on the Google store. That device is not unlockable.
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What about a Google Pixel 3 and the IMEI number starts with 99?
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What about a Google Pixel 3 and the IMEI number starts with 99?
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That goes back a few years. I'm sorry I don't remember the 99 vs 35 IMEI results. I was actually able to get Google to replace my Verizon phone with an unlockable one back then but it took about a month of phone calls untill I found a kind second tier csr. The bottom line now is to get a screenie of the OEM switch.
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That goes back a few years. I'm sorry I don't remember the 99 vs 35 IMEI results. I was actually able to get Google to replace my Verizon phone with an unlockable one back then but it took about a month of phone calls untill I found a kind second tier csr. The bottom line now is to get a screenie of the OEM switch.
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Yeah they want do that because it's new and box is sealed.Just read 99 is supposed to from Google and 35 from Verizon which I have a 35 here I'm returning because bootloader cannot be unlocked.
AtrixHDMan said:
Yeah they want do that because it's new and box is sealed.Just read 99 is supposed to from Google and 35 from Verizon which I have a 35 here I'm returning because bootloader cannot be unlocked.
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Ask if the box has two IMEI numbers. Google phones had an eSim whereas Verizon did not. Get a screen shot too. I think the 99 version is the right one but I can't swear by it. Any guarantees available?
bobby janow said:
Ask if the box has two IMEI numbers. Google phones had an eSim whereas Verizon did not. Get a screen shot too. I think the 99 version is the right one but I can't swear by it. Any guarantees available?
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I'll try and see.Thanks.
RBEmerson said:
The GD1YQ model is the Google Store model. It's carrier agnostic. Yea.
AFAIK the bootloader can't be unlocked. WTF
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Try this:
Don't insert SIM, but connect to WiFi. Skip through the rest of setup. Once at the home screen, open up Phone and dial *#*#CHECKIN#*#* (*#*#2432546#*#*), you should get a notifcation that says "checkin successfull". Let the phone sit for a few minutes, then reboot and see if OEM Unlocking is enabled. If not, leave it connected to WiFi for a while and come back to it later.
WaxysDargle said:
is there an image flashing tool for pixel similar to ODIN? otherwise probably no way around VZW crap.
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Pixel devices are set up quite differently from Samsung; individual partitions are flashed with images, rather than package files. AFAIK bootloader unlock is still required to use Odin, much as it's required to be able to issue flash commands via ADB.
Wish I'd known that. Drat. Anyway, unloaded the phone for a 4 XL which is now rooted.
Trying to decide between this and the 8t, just needing to clarify which version of the phone has bootloader unlock and root available. I'm in USA and on Verizon. Thanks
breacherman said:
Trying to decide between this and the 8t, just needing to clarify which version of the phone has bootloader unlock and root available. I'm in USA and on Verizon. Thanks
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I'd buy from the Google store, not from a provider.
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I'd buy from the Google store, not from a provider.
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ok, are you saying that any pixel 5 bought from the google store would work? And I didn't plan on buying from a provider, just like my current V30 was the US998 which is the international carrier unlocked version bought form B&H photo.
I guess I was asking for an exact model because I would prefer to get it cheaper off maybe ebay, so I wanted to be sure of what I was getting.
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ok, are you saying that any pixel 5 bought from the google store would work? And I didn't plan on buying from a provider, just like my current V30 was the US998 which is the international carrier unlocked version bought form B&H photo.
I guess I was asking for an exact model because I would prefer to get it cheaper off maybe ebay, so I wanted to be sure of what I was getting.
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Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
andybones said:
Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
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ok great, thanks. I'll look into it.
andybones said:
Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
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Mine's GTT9Q, but I got it from my carrier. Is this something that is Google Store specific?
I'm rooted with unlocked bootloader of course. Got it from Telus in Canada, but the version comes up for many other countries as well. The US is the first listed.
xunholyx said:
Mine's GTT9Q, but I got it from my carrier. Is this something that is Google Store specific?
I'm rooted with unlocked bootloader of course. Got it from Telus in Canada, but the version comes up for many other countries as well. The US is the first listed.
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Hey man,
Good to see you on the P5!
GD1YQ: US version. mmwave and sub-6
GTT9Q: ROW version. sub-6 only
G5NZ6: JP version. ROW + Felica support
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ok, are you saying that any pixel 5 bought from the google store would work? And I didn't plan on buying from a provider, just like my current V30 was the US998 which is the international carrier unlocked version bought form B&H photo.
I guess I was asking for an exact model because I would prefer to get it cheaper off maybe ebay, so I wanted to be sure of what I was getting.
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Don't select the Verizon version from the Google Store even if you are using Verizon or the BL will not unlock. In addition, I ordered mine from Amazon and was also able to BL unlock immediately. Attempting to save $$ and buy from ebay or swappa will likely be a frustrating proposition as the model number cannot be used to indicate BL unlock capability. See this thread.
There should be a sticky that's just for Verizon that states bootloader can't be unlocked. Maybe that'll stop all these repeating Verizon bootloader unlock threads
andybones said:
Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
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U mean that your phone bootloader already unlocked when buy from Google Store?
fauz33 said:
U mean that your phone bootloader already unlocked when buy from Google Store?
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No, he doesn't mean that. He unlocked it himself.
thatsupnow said:
There should be a sticky that's just for Verizon that states bootloader can't be unlocked. Maybe that'll stop all these repeating Verizon bootloader unlock threads
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At least this one asked which ones could be unlocked.
I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?
Deitybrother13 said:
I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?
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No root without unlocking the bootloader and the Verizon models cannot be unlocked.
Deitybrother13 said:
I accidentally bought the Verizon locked variant of the pixel 5. Now I can't unlock bootloader to flash the custom rims. Is gaining root access possible without unlocking the bootloader? If not, how would I go about unlocking the bootloader on this unnecessarily locked down pixel 5?
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How do you just "accidently" buy a Verizon locked phone?? Just like everybody else that bought a Verizon locked phone you'll never unlock the bootloader. Take it back if it's not doin it for you
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How do you just "accidently" buy a Verizon locked phone?? Just like everybody else that bought a Verizon locked phone you'll never unlock the bootloader. Take it back if it's not doin it for you
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I got it from best buy, and they activated it on verizon for me. It was supposed to be the unlocked model.
Deitybrother13 said:
I got it from best buy, and they activated it on verizon for me. It was supposed to be the unlocked model.
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"Unlocked" in most people's minds is carrier unlock. The subset that cares and knows about BL unlock is very small. Another good measuring stick is discounts. If there is a discount beyond what you can get at the Google store, it is likely a carrier specific device and will have the BL locked permanently.
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"Unlocked" in most people's minds is carrier unlock. The subset that cares and knows about BL unlock is very small. Another good measuring stick is discounts. If there is a discount beyond what you can get at the Google store, it is likely a carrier specific device and will have the BL locked permanently.
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This is really not directed towards you, I know for a fact you know all this. I don't even think the sales people at BB know what bl unlock means. And unlocked has nothing to do with the ability to bootloader unlock, I just can't believe that this is still an issue for some folks. As for carrier devices you are entirely correct, however, I do believe that the only carrier that will permanently lock the OEM switch is Verizon but I could be wrong on that one. Even TM will allow you to bl unlock once you pay off the device. Verizon will never ever allow it. So the previous poster, even though the rep activated it on Verizon, it's device specific. I bought my P5 directly from Google and immediately activated it on Verizon with a physical sim and an eSim also on VZW. My OEM switch is still active to bl unlock it.
One final point, which I've made before, even Google sells a Verizon P5 through the Google store. If you buy that one it will not allow you to bl unlock no matter what you do. So I'm assuming BB has the same kind of setup, if you buy the VZW device you are **** out of luck. I once got stuck with a VZW Pixel and couldn't activate the eSim due to some silly VZW policy. It took me a month of phone calls to get refunded so never again. And I don't even bl unlock my devices any longer, but I want the option. Hey, you never know. lol
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This is really not directed towards you, I know for a fact you know all this. I don't even think the sales people at BB know what bl unlock means. And unlocked has nothing to do with the ability to bootloader unlock, I just can't believe that this is still an issue for some folks. As for carrier devices you are entirely correct, however, I do believe that the only carrier that will permanently lock the OEM switch is Verizon but I could be wrong on that one. Even TM will allow you to bl unlock once you pay off the device. Verizon will never ever allow it. So the previous poster, even though the rep activated it on Verizon, it's device specific. I bought my P5 directly from Google and immediately activated it on Verizon with a physical sim and an eSim also on VZW. My OEM switch is still active to bl unlock it.
One final point, which I've made before, even Google sells a Verizon P5 through the Google store. If you buy that one it will not allow you to bl unlock no matter what you do. So I'm assuming BB has the same kind of setup, if you buy the VZW device you are **** out of luck. I once got stuck with a VZW Pixel and couldn't activate the eSim due to some silly VZW policy. It took me a month of phone calls to get refunded so never again. And I don't even bl unlock my devices any longer, but I want the option. Hey, you never know. lol
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The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.
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The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.
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Yeah, I know that. I never did understand the particulars of that but I'm sure it has something to do with money of some sort to someone. There was always too much fine print and conditions. I'm pretty much stuck on Pixel now so I'll only buy from Google and hope for some kind of discount. On the P5 I got $50 off for something or other. If I were to buy an iPhone I would go to an Apple store. But the other members of my family have all carrier branded devices because they don't give a darn about unlocked carrier or bl able.
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The Verizon version and the unlocked version were the same price. But both of them had discounts if you activated service at checkout.
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As far as I know, every Pixel device sold by Best Buy is Verizon branded. I don't remember where I learned that from, but get your phones from elsewhere.
I am buying a Pixel 4XL on Swappa advertised to be a genuine Google edition which I want so I can unlock the bootloader. Is there a way via IMEI or serial number to verify it's not a Verizon or non-Google edition? Thank you!
STraver said:
I am buying a Pixel 4XL on Swappa advertised to be a genuine Google edition which I want so I can unlock the bootloader. Is there a way via IMEI or serial number to verify it's not a Verizon or non-Google edition? Thank you!
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You used to be able to check the IMEI on the Verizon website but I just checked the link I've used before and it no longer provides the information you're looking for. Maybe someone else knows a different site to check but you can always ask the seller to see if the OEM unlocking toggle can be enabled and have them show you a screenshot of it. I would also mention that being able to unlock the bootloader is a requirement of yours just so you have that down in writing for the Swappa team to see in case it turns out not to be and you need to return it.
Thanks very much for responding. I remember reading somewher that the genuine IMEI number has a specific few character that identify it as a carrier-modified device or "pure" google but I haven't been able to find it,.
If you are just getting into this, note that carrier unlocked and bootloader locked are two different things. Vendors frequently advertise "unlocked" phones (meaning carrier) when they know people are looking for bootloader unlocked. It is VERY possible to get a carrier unlocked Pixel that cannot be bootloader unlocked. These are usually carrier-variant phones.
As mentioned, verify with the seller that it is a deal breaker if bootloader locked. When you start the phone go to settings and enable dev options. If "enable OEM unlocking" is grayed out and or you cannot toggle it on the phone is bootloader locked. I've bought at least 4 Nexus or Pixel phones from Amazon (Prime Day) and every one was fully unlockable.
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If you are just getting into this, note that carrier unlocked and bootloader locked are two different things. Vendors frequently advertise "unlocked" phones (meaning carrier) when they know people are looking for bootloader unlocked. It is VERY possible to get a carrier unlocked Pixel that cannot be bootloader unlocked. These are usually carrier-variant phones.
As mentioned, verify with the seller that it is a deal breaker if bootloader locked. When you start the phone go to settings and enable dev options. If "enable OEM unlocking" is grayed out and or you cannot toggle it on the phone is bootloader locked. I've bought at least 4 Nexus or Pixel phones from Amazon (Prime Day) and every one was fully unlockable.
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Thanks very much for responding. I have since received the phone and unlocked the bootloader.
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Thanks very much for responding. I have since received the phone and unlocked the bootloader.
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Fantastic!
I see a few ebay listings that sell open boxed, locked Pixel 5's at a considerably lower price (around $260ish).
Those phones are locked with AT&T.
How easy/costly is it to unlock those phones? Is it worth buying them to save some money?
Also can you unlock the bootloader in those phones?
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The only pixel phones for sure that can be bootloader unlocked are from the Google store. Swappa is a good place for phones.
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The only pixel phones for sure that can be bootloader unlocked are from the Google store. Swappa is a good place for phones.
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So a Pixel that is carrier-locked means implies that it also has a locked bootloader?
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So a Pixel that is carrier-locked means implies that it also has a locked bootloader?
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Yes, you cannot unlock the bootloader if it carrier locked. Most times, not even then (Verizon for sure).
The only carrier I know of that used to allow bootloader unlocks, provided the device was not under lien, is TMobile - and even then, it's questionable as the CSRs generally don't know what you're talking about.
Don't buy smart devices on eBay if you want to be able to unlock the bootloader.