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Got myself an iphone :<

Hello, i am a WM user since my qtek s200, and that is a way back, i love WM phones, i had over 6 WM devices and now i had a contract renewal and i got myself an iphone 3gs. I am a iphone hater -or maybe was-, and i do have the device for 4 days now. To my suprise the iphone is really good, really fast, and now that has turn by turn navigation its really usable. Fluent graphics, really powerful applications, and really really good support.
I thought i would never say this, but i am selling both my HD's, and its gonna take me a while to get back to WM devices.
Flame as you guys want, i just wanted to give my 2 cents on the thing thats happening.

I went the other way. Had enough of the low-res toy that is the Iphone, with Apple constantly blocking users from doing what they want.

My condolences

Well - as always it depends on what you want from your device... If you are satisfied with the abilities apple lets you use - go for the iphone. If you want a device you can customize in every way you want - go for a WM-device. And I have to agree with arfster: The resolution on the iphone is a disgrace! I'm definitely not willing to go to anything below VGA after having a WVGA device!
But I'm happy as long as your happy with the iphone!

orb3000 said:
My condolences
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LOL
Nice one!

I used to own an iPod touch (Iphone without the phone) and just found it to gimmicky. Sooner or later you will get bored of useless apps & games and come running back
Anyway have fun with your iPhone! I certainly would like to have one for 12 months +!
Ben.

sedde said:
Hello, i am a WM user since my qtek s200, and that is a way back, i love WM phones, i had over 6 WM devices and now i had a contract renewal and i got myself an iphone 3gs. I am a iphone hater -or maybe was-, and i do have the device for 4 days now. To my suprise the iphone is really good, really fast, and now that has turn by turn navigation its really usable. Fluent graphics, really powerful applications, and really really good support.
I thought i would never say this, but i am selling both my HD's, and its gonna take me a while to get back to WM devices.
Flame as you guys want, i just wanted to give my 2 cents on the thing thats happening.
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Congratuations.
I've seen enough of what it can do to know that you're making the right move. Once jailbroken, I've seen how customizable it is, perhaps even more customizable than winmo phone. Everytime I see her, the phone looks different. She was having a HTC Hero look just the other day, and before that it looked like a Palm Pre. I've seen my cousin's iPhone and played with it, and it is truly amazing and awesome. Fantastic application functionalities and choices. Fantastic speed and smoothness. Fantastic for internet on the go. Fantastic media device.
I'm half way there in my saving to buy a second hand 3GS.

newuser888 said:
Congratuations.
I've seen enough of what it can do to know that you're making the right move. Once jailbroken, I've seen how customizable it is, perhaps even more customizable than winmo phone. Everytime I see her, the phone looks different. She was having a HTC Hero look just the other day, and before that it looked like a Palm Pre. I've seen my cousin's iPhone and played with it, and it is truly amazing and awesome. Fantastic application functionalities and choices. Fantastic speed and smoothness. Fantastic for internet on the go. Fantastic media device.
I'm half way there in my saving to buy a second hand 3GS.
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What stuff from HTC Hero or Palm Pre did you actually see? Are you certain that it is customizable. Because all I can see is the same old home screen with an HTC Hero Wallpaper.

Yes you now have turn by turn navigation but just see what happens when you take a phone call. On my Diamond TomTom just continued working and I could chat away to my heart's content. The iPhone will terminate the satnav application to tale the call. The iPhone is very, very shiny but has some serious restrictions - not to mention having to jailbreak to get away from the control freakery that is Apple.

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theres my thoughts
kidding but in all seriousness, and im sure we remember the other conversations iphone is for ppl and winmo is for others
it depends on what ur needs are from the deivice

What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can't they just ressurrect one of the other 1000 threads that were started everytime Apple passes gas. ?
I have five Macs currently, am typing this on a Mac, my first PDA was an Apple Newton. I have been an Apple fanboy for 30yrs. And am on my second iPhone.
I also love my Kaiser. Now when I got my new 3Gs last month, my first thought wasn't to rush right over to XDA to start a new thread to announce that I had gotten a new iPhone, why is that everyone elses first thought ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?

denco7 said:
What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can't they just ressurrect one of the other 1000 threads that were started everytime Apple passes gas. ?
I also love my Kaiser. Now when I got my new 3Gs last month, my first thought wasn't to rush right over to XDA to start a new thread to announce that I had gotten a new iPhone, why is that everyone elses first thought ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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+1 for this!

denco7 said:
What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can't they just ressurrect one of the other 1000 threads that were started everytime Apple passes gas. ?
I have five Macs currently, am typing this on a Mac, my first PDA was an Apple Newton. I have been an Apple fanboy for 30yrs. And am on my second iPhone.
I also love my Kaiser. Now when I got my new 3Gs last month, my first thought wasn't to rush right over to XDA to start a new thread to announce that I had gotten a new iPhone, why is that everyone elses first thought ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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denco7 said:
What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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The AS team thinks these should be considered spam, but we need the xda admin's blessing...

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The AS team thinks these should be considered spam, but we need the xda admin's blessing...
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Plus one for this

poetryrocksalot said:
What stuff from HTC Hero or Palm Pre did you actually see? Are you certain that it is customizable. Because all I can see is the same old home screen with an HTC Hero Wallpaper.
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No, it's more than a mere wallpaper. It also includes customizing the icons, the keyboards, the phone pad, the home screen itself, etc.
Did some googling, and found this..
Of course, don't expect it to have the complete behaviour of HTC hero, just like you would not expect a winmo phone that has been customized to mimic iphone to behave like iPhone.
Cheers.

Howdy folks...

Just thought I'd introduce myself real quick like.
The names Kjell (say it like shell, but with a German accent) and currently living in Norway. I've lived most of my life in the US though. (Primarily in the south.)
I was a Nokia kind of guy, specifically the 9x series, like the 9000, 9110, e90 etc. (Owned each one at least once.) Then I switched to an old QTec (QTek?) phone a few years ago, and hated it. Went back to Nokia and just last year jumped onboard the horrible iPhone bandwagon. (It's a great phone, just, hate being tied down...)
I bought a used HTC Touch HD last week seeing how I've been eying the HD2 for a couple now. But I'm not sure how I'll like Windows on my phone again. So I'm taking it slow.
But needless to say, I'm quite happy with the HD1. It's got a great screen, it's pretty fast and I enjoy the many, many customization options.
My iPhone is being used as an MP3 player/gaming console for my little one.
I'm thinking about testing out some custom roms for the HD. Anyone got any suggestions? Maybe a rom with the possibility to change your local weather to a non HTC chosen location? (I tried doing this on my own via the XML file, but can't. I'm just not that leet lol.)
Anyways, I've said too much. Thanks for having me.
KSon

KSon82 said:
My iPhone is being used as an MP3 player/gaming console for my little one.
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It is a toy for children (or the simple-minded)

KSon82 said:
Just thought I'd introduce myself real quick like.
The names Kjell (say it like shell, but with a German accent) and currently living in Norway. I've lived most of my life in the US though. (Primarily in the south.)
I was a Nokia kind of guy, specifically the 9x series, like the 9000, 9110, e90 etc. (Owned each one at least once.) Then I switched to an old QTec (QTek?) phone a few years ago, and hated it. Went back to Nokia and just last year jumped onboard the horrible iPhone bandwagon. (It's a great phone, just, hate being tied down...)
I bought a used HTC Touch HD last week seeing how I've been eying the HD2 for a couple now. But I'm not sure how I'll like Windows on my phone again. So I'm taking it slow.
But needless to say, I'm quite happy with the HD1. It's got a great screen, it's pretty fast and I enjoy the many, many customization options.
My iPhone is being used as an MP3 player/gaming console for my little one.
I'm thinking about testing out some custom roms for the HD. Anyone got any suggestions? Maybe a rom with the possibility to change your local weather to a non HTC chosen location? (I tried doing this on my own via the XML file, but can't. I'm just not that leet lol.)
Anyways, I've said too much. Thanks for having me.
KSon
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Welcome aboard
Have a look on Blackstone section and in the Wiki
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=451
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!
Good luck,

JAguirre1231 said:
It is a toy for children (or the simple-minded)
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THUMBS UP
I love the people at XDA!

Thanks all for the welcome.
I've been looking at the HD roms, going to read up a little about the flashing technique first. Don't want to brick anything.

Welcome and enjoy XDA! Happy Flashing!

Well first off, Welcome to XDA.
As a starter I'd advise you to read the wiki's and stickies for your device.
If unsure about anything feel free post a query in the Q&A forum (generally for each device a Q&A thread has been created for queries) or to contact a moderator for assistance
Rick

Bewildered beginner here to learn from the winners...

I wish I could list even one awesome coding skill to contribute to XDA, but the truth is the other way around - it's the developers here who've been contributing to me for the past several years as I've struggled to navigate the ever-winding road of Android. I came here completely green, not a single line of code to call mine, and had to look up every other word in the posts, only to have to look up the words in the definitions as well.
I remember that time very well, as I was armed with the new Nexus 5 Hammerhead running KitKat 4.4.4, and all I wanted to do more than anything in the world was this really cool thing I'd heard about called 'rooting.' Didn't even know what I could do with a rooted phone back then, especially since it was my very first smartphone. And somehow, some way, with the help of the posts here on XDA, I managed to gain root privileges on my first try. Bragging rights? Nah. Not until it's revealed that it only took me 3 weeks of delving my phone's deepest corners before finally discovering this amazing secret where anything I deleted instead got doubled, which allowed me to finally achieve the world record of filling up a phone's memory with useless data faster than The Competitor could get hit with planned obsolescence lawsuits. Now that's fast, indeed.
On a more serious note, there has actually been one question I've seen posted recently that I realized I could have easily helped someone with, had I an account here. Thus, what you see before you. Of course it will probably turn out to be the only question I'll come across here that I can answer, but someone needs me the way I've needed you and if I could help even just one person, then here I go...

XDA-Padawan said:
I wish I could list even one awesome coding skill to contribute to XDA, but the truth is the other way around - it's the developers here who've been contributing to me for the past several years as I've struggled to navigate the ever-winding road of Android. I came here completely green, not a single line of code to call mine, and had to look up every other word in the posts, only to have to look up the words in the definitions as well.
I remember that time very well, as I was armed with the new Nexus 5 Hammerhead running KitKat 4.4.4, and all I wanted to do more than anything in the world was this really cool thing I'd heard about called 'rooting.' Didn't even know what I could do with a rooted phone back then, especially since it was my very first smartphone. And somehow, some way, with the help of the posts here on XDA, I managed to gain root privileges on my first try. Bragging rights? Nah. Not until it's revealed that it only took me 3 weeks of delving my phone's deepest corners before finally discovering this amazing secret where anything I deleted instead got doubled, which allowed me to finally achieve the world record of filling up a phone's memory with useless data faster than The Competitor could get hit with planned obsolescence lawsuits. Now that's fast, indeed.
On a more serious note, there has actually been one question I've seen posted recently that I realized I could have easily helped someone with, had I an account here. Thus, what you see before you. Of course it will probably turn out to be the only question I'll come across here that I can answer, but someone needs me the way I've needed you and if I could help even just one person, then here I go...
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Nice intro!
welcome to XDA

Thank you, I mean it. (Bashfully looks down, hands clasped behind back, toeing ground...) This is the first time in my life I've ever signed up to be a part of something bigger than myself, there isn't a lot out there that can really keep drawing me back, time and time again. Now if I can just find that Thanks button I just read about, I won't have to take up so much space on the servers each time I want to show my gratitude.....

XDA-Padawan said:
I wish I could list even one awesome coding skill to contribute to XDA, but the truth is the other way around - it's the developers here who've been contributing to me for the past several years as I've struggled to navigate the ever-winding road of Android. I came here completely green, not a single line of code to call mine, and had to look up every other word in the posts, only to have to look up the words in the definitions as well.
I remember that time very well, as I was armed with the new Nexus 5 Hammerhead running KitKat 4.4.4, and all I wanted to do more than anything in the world was this really cool thing I'd heard about called 'rooting.' Didn't even know what I could do with a rooted phone back then, especially since it was my very first smartphone. And somehow, some way, with the help of the posts here on XDA, I managed to gain root privileges on my first try. Bragging rights? Nah. Not until it's revealed that it only took me 3 weeks of delving my phone's deepest corners before finally discovering this amazing secret where anything I deleted instead got doubled, which allowed me to finally achieve the world record of filling up a phone's memory with useless data faster than The Competitor could get hit with planned obsolescence lawsuits. Now that's fast, indeed.
On a more serious note, there has actually been one question I've seen posted recently that I realized I could have easily helped someone with, had I an account here. Thus, what you see before you. Of course it will probably turn out to be the only question I'll come across here that I can answer, but someone needs me the way I've needed you and if I could help even just one person, then here I go...
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what a great intro, welcome to eh world of "rooting" which in australia, means..... well, il let you look that up lol (i had fun over there when i explained to people i "rooted" my phone,)
we all have to start somewhere, like that advert on tv the woman asks "how do i hdmi a pdf" rofl , youve come to the right place to want to learn, im no expert but if you ever need a hand with anything your more than welcome to hmu

gav83collins said:
what a great intro, welcome to eh world of "rooting" which in australia, means..... well, il let you look that up lol (i had fun over there when i explained to people i "rooted" my phone,)
we all have to start somewhere, like that advert on tv the woman asks "how do i hdmi a pdf" rofl , youve come to the right place to want to learn, im no expert but if you ever need a hand with anything your more than welcome to hmu
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You actually made me laugh out loud with that one. Thanks I needed that! I'll certainly consider hitting you up the next time I need help, which is, on average, every 6.2 seconds. Now if that lady does ever figure out how to hdmi a pdf, she would be a Jedi Master, indeed, and we may both end up learning at her feet. Thanks again and likewise if you want to holler and maybe learn how to brick any device at all, I'm available. Brick master extraordinaire, that's me.

XDA-Padawan said:
You actually made me laugh out loud with that one. Thanks I needed that! I'll certainly consider hitting you up the next time I need help, which is, on average, every 6.2 seconds. Now if that lady does ever figure out how to hdmi a pdf, she would be a Jedi Master, indeed, and we may both end up learning at her feet. Thanks again and likewise if you want to holler and maybe learn how to brick any device at all, I'm available. Brick master extraordinaire, that's me.
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thats an acheibvment you reall do have to french connection uk, up nowadays to brick a device lol, thanks, so what phone ar you running now ? is it rooted ?

gav83collins said:
thats an acheibvment you reall do have to french connection uk, up nowadays to brick a device lol, thanks, so what phone ar you running now ? is it rooted ?
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My apologies for the late reply, and thank you for your offer, I'll probably be messaging you on my next project. The phone I'm using right now is an unrooted Motorola One 5G Ace, and it's lightning fast. But that's about where any good review ends for me. I should root it, but my screen is so cracked I may as well get a new phone.
However! I am the proud owner of a fully rooted Motorola e4 Plus, as well as a fully rooted Samsung Galaxy S5 - the AT&T kind, which is the only version that's untouchable by Developer Geohot's brainchild, Towel Root. (By the way, excellent work on that, Geohot. You are a legend among my circle.)
So, in short, I've got 2 rooted phones, neither with service, but still fun to poke around the older OS versions and see what's under the hood.
I'm tempted to grab a Galaxy S22 Ultra, but only if it's rootable, Samsung being synonymous with bloatware/trashware/dataware.
What kind of phone are you yourself working with?

Hi 👋

hello!
II's been a long journey , but I'm finally here! I've wanted to be here for quite a while, and I finally made the switch. I've got my first Android after owning a lot of phones, but all iPhones for the last 15 years. The first phone I owned was not an iPhone. It was a small phone that had snake and a space type game built in. I think it was a Nokia and it had an antennae on it. I had an awesome Samsung flip that played music unbelievably well. I had an HTC that came with a stylus. I had a sidekick and a rumour. Oh, but my first gadget was a palm pilot.
I'm here with a new zflip4. It's taking me some time getting used to it, but I'm learning. I love all the customization possible on an Android. I still don't know the difference between "themes" and "launchers" among other things, but I live that I can do so much more on an Android than an iPhone.
I posted question that I'm praying someone can answer. It involves an issue I'm having with settings-display- screensaver. I'm so confused!!
So, that's me, my phones, and why I'm here. I know I'm going to learn a lot here. Thank you for the chance to introduce myself and my zflip4 to all of you!
PS Help!!

musicbear said:
hello!
II's been a long journey , but I'm finally here! I've wanted to be here for quite a while, and I finally made the switch. I've got my first Android after owning a lot of phones, but all iPhones for the last 15 years. The first phone I owned was not an iPhone. It was a small phone that had snake and a space type game built in. I think it was a Nokia and it had an antennae on it. I had an awesome Samsung flip that played music unbelievably well. I had an HTC that came with a stylus. I had a sidekick and a rumour. Oh, but my first gadget was a palm pilot.
I'm here with a new zflip4. It's taking me some time getting used to it, but I'm learning. I love all the customization possible on an Android. I still don't know the difference between "themes" and "launchers" among other things, but I live that I can do so much more on an Android than an iPhone.
I posted question that I'm praying someone can answer. It involves an issue I'm having with settings-display- screensaver. I'm so confused!!
So, that's me, my phones, and why I'm here. I know I'm going to learn a lot here. Thank you for the chance to introduce myself and my zflip4 to all of you!
PS Help!!
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Themes are different looks of the device, it changes the icons, color, more.
Launchers are customized versions of the stock launcher with more features added.

musicbear said:
hello!
II's been a long journey , but I'm finally here! I've wanted to be here for quite a while, and I finally made the switch. I've got my first Android after owning a lot of phones, but all iPhones for the last 15 years. The first phone I owned was not an iPhone. It was a small phone that had snake and a space type game built in. I think it was a Nokia and it had an antennae on it. I had an awesome Samsung flip that played music unbelievably well. I had an HTC that came with a stylus. I had a sidekick and a rumour. Oh, but my first gadget was a palm pilot.
I'm here with a new zflip4. It's taking me some time getting used to it, but I'm learning. I love all the customization possible on an Android. I still don't know the difference between "themes" and "launchers" among other things, but I live that I can do so much more on an Android than an iPhone.
I posted question that I'm praying someone can answer. It involves an issue I'm having with settings-display- screensaver. I'm so confused!!
So, that's me, my phones, and why I'm here. I know I'm going to learn a lot here. Thank you for the chance to introduce myself and my zflip4 to all of you!
PS Help!!
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Welcome to the xda family.
Cheers.

Introduce Myself

My name is E-Jay and I am a new member here. I've followed XDA for a few years now. I am avid android user and have become the most knowledgeable out of anyone I know. I am 100% self taught over the last 5 years when I first started to learn of all the awesome things you can do with an Android and I laugh when people claim IOS or Microsoft have better OS or devices because I truly find that a laughable statement. Then I will explain APK mods, the abilities of a rooted device and the ease of doing so compared to IOS and usually stop when I see the person stopped listening at APK and has a unshakable opinion fed to them by InTouch magizine but every once in awhile I will see the spark I must have had when I first started to learn about the OS and I know I have a new friend and student. To you guys I am still light years away from knowing anything but that's why I love this site. Thanks for reading and I look forward to speaking on my favorite hobby with everyone here.

Welcome
e-jay1980 said:
ople claim IOS or Microsoft have better OS or devices because I truly find that a laughable statement
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Yes, some people don't know nothing and think they can resolve their problems with shelling out even more money, instead of reading up
However, at least for apple I have met some very tech savvy people... always makes me wonder why they defend even ****ty apple decisions or ignore them Perhaps some form of Stockholm Syndrome?
What phone(s) do you have then?

Welcome to XDA and enjoy your journey around the forums!
Regards

SigmundDroid said:
I have multiple phones. I buy FRP locked phone's for nothing, figure out how to bypass it and add to my collection. I currently have a Samsung Note9, a TCL 30XL a nokiia 100
SigmundDroid said:
Welcome
Yes, some people don't know nothing and think they can resolve their problems with shelling out even more money, instead of reading up
However, at least for apple I have met some very tech savvy people... always makes me wonder why they defend even ****ty apple decisions or ignore them Perhaps some form of Stockholm Syndrome?
What phone(s) do you have then?
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I collect FRP locked phone's I buy at next to nothing price, figure out how to bypass FRP, and play with it til I find my next project. Currently I have a Samsung Galaxy Note9, a TCL 30XE that I just posted the FRP bypass I figured out on Jan 2023 security patch for Android 12, a Nokia
Yes, some people don't know nothing and think they can resolve their problems with shelling out even more money, instead of reading up
However, at least for apple I have met some very tech savvy people... always makes me wonder why they defend even ****ty apple decisions or ignore them Perhaps some form of Stockholm Syndrome?
What phone(s) do you have then?
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SigmundDroid said:
Welcome
Yes, some people don't know nothing and think they can resolve their problems with shelling out even more money, instead of reading up
However, at least for apple I have met some very tech savvy people... always makes me wonder why they defend even ****ty apple decisions or ignore them Perhaps some form of Stockholm Syndrome?
What phone(s) do you have then?
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Ok, had to get one of my toys open to my Google account device list to answer that because I collect FRP locked devices I find dirt cheap and bypass the lock, currently signed into my Google is a Samsung Galaxy Note 9, TCL 30XE ,BLU C5L Max, LGE LG K31, Wiko Life 3 Nokia X100 and those are ones I play with. I also have a mess of older ones including Samsung A01, Rooted Galaxy J2 I keep for sentimental reasons along with a Chinese MediaTec Tablet because they were the first device I successfully rooted and first mobile device I successfully rooted and J2 I flashed the original firmware and Android 5 that it still runs because I guess I'm like a car guy who wants his first car all original. My first successful rooted mobile device I wanted all original..lol .I could keep going with at least 7-8 more that have a charge on the battery I could check and tell u but nothing special. I had 2 devices that ran Android 2, the first Android OS to be on a phone but my freaking ex wife decided they were old trash so I threw her out with them...no, I really didn't but was not happy. Have never seen a device lower than android 5 before or since. Got both from my mother who thought I was insane when I got so excited over old phones she was throwing away. I guess everyone has a passion. Somehow mine became android phones. Even I think I'm a little crazy and wish I went to school when I was younger so I'd be more advanced in my knowledge of how the OS actually works and at 42 it is a little late to learn from scratch and start a new career but I enjoy what I do and Android is just a hobby I am passionate about. Thank you for asking, bet you regret it..lol

e-jay1980 said:
Ok, had to get one of my toys open to my Google account device list to answer that because I collect FRP locked devices I find dirt cheap and bypass the lock, currently signed into my Google is a Samsung Galaxy Note 9, TCL 30XE ,BLU C5L Max, LGE LG K31, Wiko Life 3 Nokia X100 and those are ones I play with. I also have a mess of older ones including Samsung A01, Rooted Galaxy J2 I keep for sentimental reasons along with a Chinese MediaTec Tablet because they were the first device I successfully rooted and first mobile device I successfully rooted and J2 I flashed the original firmware and Android 5 that it still runs because I guess I'm like a car guy who wants his first car all original. My first successful rooted mobile device I wanted all original..lol .I could keep going with at least 7-8 more that have a charge on the battery I could check and tell u but nothing special. I had 2 devices that ran Android 2, the first Android OS to be on a phone but my freaking ex wife decided they were old trash so I threw her out with them...no, I really didn't but was not happy. Have never seen a device lower than android 5 before or since. Got both from my mother who thought I was insane when I got so excited over old phones she was throwing away. I guess everyone has a passion. Somehow mine became android phones. Even I think I'm a little crazy and wish I went to school when I was younger so I'd be more advanced in my knowledge of how the OS actually works and at 42 it is a little late to learn from scratch and start a new career but I enjoy what I do and Android is just a hobby I am passionate about. Thank you for asking, bet you regret it..lol
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Apparently I answered multiple times. New to this site and the setup a little different on mobile. More like a blog or a Docs setup. Still don't know how I managed to post the first sentence of my answer 3 times before my entire answer. I apologize if confusing to you, just know it's 10 times more so for me..lol

e-jay1980 said:
bet you regret it
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Not at all, was interesting, especially the FRP part.
e-jay1980 said:
Apparently I answered multiple times
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Yea, sometimes it has it unreproducible quirks. Oh well, we have seen worse, eh