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Pthm9 said:
Tech lover, not like Xiaomi and now using it hanging times ,with 2.5 of 6Gb ram available.
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Have a look on Xiaomi forums, sure you will find a way to make yours better!

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[Q] mi3 tegra vs snapdragon

I have both the tegra and snapdragon version of mi3.I can keep only one. Which one should I keep. I don't care about 3G. The only thing I care about is which one is faster and better in terms of performance. Thanks.
Android_user11 said:
I have both the tegra and snapdragon version of mi3.I can keep only one. Which one should I keep. I don't care about 3G. The only thing I care about is which one is faster and better in terms of performance. Thanks.
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as far as i know the td version is only for china,
and snapdragon is for the rest of the countries,
regarding speed and performance,snapdragon is a beast its to fast,snappier and gives an awesome performance
and once the kernel sources are released you can expect a hell lot of stable custom roms and kernels for the snapdragon variant,
I know tegra is for China. I got them both from China. I installed international stable rom on both. They are same in all aspects other than processor.
You are saying that snapdragon version will be faster?(I thought the tegra would be faster)
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I know tegra is for China. I got them both from China. I installed international stable rom on both. They are same in all aspects other than processor.
You are saying that snapdragon version will be faster?(I thought the tegra would be faster)
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i feel snap is faster then tegra,but you have the devices you can compare the speeds better right ,
and i guess you are running miui roms,
well i was saying about other roms like aosp aisp carbon cm11 they are hell lot faster then the miui rom,so if you go for the snapdragon one,you can have all these roms ,
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-800-vs-Nvidia-Tegra-4
this might help you out in your decision
ZenR2 said:
i feel snap is faster then tegra,but you have the devices you can compare the speeds better right ,
and i guess you are running miui roms,
well i was saying about other roms like aosp aisp carbon cm11 they are hell lot faster then the miui rom,so if you go for the snapdragon one,you can have all these roms ,
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You're right. More roms and kernels will be available for snapdragon version and since I will root my phone, snapdragon would probably be better. Can you please provide a benchmark so that I can convince myself that they are almost equal in terms of performance?
Android_user11 said:
You're right. More roms and kernels will be available for snapdragon version and since I will root my phone, snapdragon would probably be better. Can you please provide a benchmark so that I can convince myself that they are almost equal in terms of performance?
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i cant tell you about tegras benchmark,but snap gave me antu benchmark of 37-40,000 score sometimes even more say 42
Anyone here has tried benchmarking tegra 4 phones?
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Anyone here has tried benchmarking tegra 4 phones?
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you have the phone, right?
Just keep the snapdragon version, all around better and there's lots of development for the snapdragon version, plus one day you might need 3g, you'll be stuck on edge with the tegra.
Sent from my MI 3W
Thanks everyone. The reason I wasn't trying to benchmark the phones was that I wasn't at home (no WiFi) and since tegra version doesn't have 3g I couldn't download antutu. Yesterday I ran antutu on them both. Snapdragon got 41000(40991 to be precise) and tegra got 36000.I am keeping snapdragon version.
Thanks again.Btw sometimes the back bottom and home buttons light don't work properly (turn off after some time). Is this hardware issue or what. I don't really have any problem. I just turn them all of from settings. just wanted to know if anyone knows how to fix this. the menu bottom lights work fine .

[Question] What is the possibility of CM 14 on the Zuk Z1?

I am planning to buy a Zuk Z1 which comes pre-loaded with COS 5.1.1 and still hasn't received COS 13 update; however CM13 is available and pretty stable. Now I'll buy the phone only if it receives CM14 sometime down the road. The phone has a Snapdragon 801. Is there a possibility that it'll receive CM14? I know it's hard to tell for sure but any seasoned people could make some gusses? Any help appreciated.
Personally I wouldn't buy this phone anymore, it's a decent device but you can get better phones for the same amount of money
Hornettt said:
Personally I wouldn't buy this phone anymore, it's a decent device but you can get better phones for the same amount of money
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can u suggest better device at this price range
prateektaneja said:
I am planning to buy a Zuk Z1 which comes pre-loaded with COS 5.1.1 and still hasn't received COS 13 update; however CM13 is available and pretty stable. Now I'll buy the phone only if it receives CM14 sometime down the road. The phone has a Snapdragon 801. Is there a possibility that it'll receive CM14? I know it's hard to tell for sure but any seasoned people could make some gusses? Any help appreciated.
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If the OnePlus One will get Cm14 then will this phone also get Cm14. Mabye by cyanogenmod official or unofficial.
OrdenKrieger said:
If the OnePlus One will get Cm14 then will this phone also get Cm14. Mabye by cyanogenmod official or unofficial.
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The OPO should get CM14. It's backed by a very, very strong developer community. Also, why hasn't ZUK seen the likes of MIUI ported? It's already there for OPO.
I'm a crack flasher, so I love trying out all sorts of ROMs, but I'm inept at 'porting' ROMs.
Hornettt said:
Personally I wouldn't buy this phone anymore, it's a decent device but you can get better phones for the same amount of money
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Even I'd love to know about a better phone at this price point.
So zuk z1 will support android 7.0 right??
Sent from my Z1 using Tapatalk
A better phone at this price point may be the the Redmi Note 3 Pro. From what I can see the Redmi has better hardware, faster 64 bit CPU, better screen, cheaper. The ZUK has a better camera, no SD card (bad if you want to flash from SD card or backup to SD card) older CPU but still ok. Front fingerprint scanner is also a plus instead of rear on Redmi. Redmi runs MIUI and CM
If you have had your ZUK Z1 a while are you glad you got this and not the a Redmi note 3?
Right now we can't say anything about COS14 but if the devs at cynogen mod are concerned about this device they might release CM14 for us
but the question is In India during the launch of zuk z1 lenovo claimed that they will provide updates for this device and we did not get a single update up until now
so thankful to the devs at XDA for developing roms and continue the android cycle of this phone
and i hope they do so for Android 7.0
Calm down guys! ?? it will definiely get CM14, unofficial or official.
galaxyms said:
A better phone at this price point may be the the Redmi Note 3 Pro. From what I can see the Redmi has better hardware, faster 64 bit CPU, better screen, cheaper. The ZUK has a better camera, no SD card (bad if you want to flash from SD card or backup to SD card) older CPU but still ok. Front fingerprint scanner is also a plus instead of rear on Redmi. Redmi runs MIUI and CM
If you have had your ZUK Z1 a while are you glad you got this and not the a Redmi note 3?
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Dude i own redmi 3 pro and trust me it s not better. It s enough to say that xiaomi locked the bootloaders of their ****ty phones and unlocking bootloader is painful and takes weeks. also roms for redmi 3 are at the level lollipop.
cheeze.keyk said:
Calm down guys! ���� it will definiely get CM14, unofficial or official.
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That's very heartening to hear.
Extentho said:
Dude i own redmi 3 pro and trust me it s not better. It s enough to say that xiaomi locked the bootloaders of their ****ty phones and unlocking bootloader is painful and takes weeks. also roms for redmi 3 are at the level lollipop.
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Redmi Note 3 as of today has pretty stable MM ROMs and also official CM13 support.
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That's very heartening to hear.
Redmi Note 3 as of today has pretty stable MM ROMs and also official CM13 support.
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So does zuk which comes with a great panel of 5.5 inch, 64 gb ROM. I haven t found a better phone for 200$. Sure Xiaomi redmi 3 is a good competitor but not the best
Extentho said:
So does zuk which comes with a great panel of 5.5 inch, 64 gb ROM. I haven t found a better phone for 200$. Sure Xiaomi redmi 3 is a good competitor but not the best
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I agree. I have two major concerns:
1. Availability of CM14 on the device. If not official, then unofficial. The unofficial part is a little dodgy because there aren't A LOT of ROMs for the Z1 which are updated on a daily basis. The updates for a device also depend on how popular a device is among the developer community. I can't really say about the Z1.
2. The aging SD 801. How does it compare to the 64 bit 650?
Other than that, spec-wise, the 64GB memory and OIS wins it over the RN3 for me.
prateektaneja said:
I agree. I have two major concerns:
1. Availability of CM14 on the device. If not official, then unofficial. The unofficial part is a little dodgy because there aren't A LOT of ROMs for the Z1 which are updated on a daily basis. The updates for a device also depend on how popular a device is among the developer community. I can't really say about the Z1.
2. The aging SD 801. How does it compare to the 64 bit 650?
Other than that, spec-wise, the 64GB memory and OIS wins it over the RN3 for me.
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I think from this point is all about preferences. I prefer a large display with a good dpi and colors and 64 Gigs of rom on a marshmallow nuclear rom. Redmi 3 pro is worh it also but i m having it now on spacex rom lolipop waiting to unlock the bootolader
and maybe get a CM rom.
Extentho said:
So does zuk which comes with a great panel of 5.5 inch, 64 gb ROM. I haven t found a better phone for 200$. Sure Xiaomi redmi 3 is a good competitor but not the best
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SO which phones are the best competitor to a ZUK Z1?
Yes bro it will receive cm14 officially from cyanogenmod not from android
I wouldn't recommend the ZUK Z1 to anyone. Btw, typing this from my Z1.
The phone and the hardware is great. It's the crappy Cyanogen that makes the phone trash worthy.
Cyanogen is upto its neck with bugs. I too was excited when I first bought the Z1 but now repent that decision after using for 3 months.
Again, the phone is great. The OS is crap.
Experimental buil 7.0 launched on one plus one ...so wait
"Rumors" answer to the question, hope it's not true:
http://bit.ly/2bXzZ0R

ROM Issue on Mi A2 (Updated)

Hey guys!
Many of you guys know about Mi A2's Memory problem. It's about Write and Read speed of Rom.
I tried everything. Sometimes its good but most often its bad like hell. Writing speed is about 30 MB/s.
I tried to reflash stock ROM and install clean so I got a better result. About 235 MB/s... After few days of using again... 30 MB/s
Idk what's wrong exactly. Xiaomi pulled back both updates of August and September. so I think there are some major issues.
And I am sure that there is two model of eMMc memory for A2. And I hope that this problem just goes for software.
This bug or issue cause many lags and freezes. Many people have the problem with flashing Roms with fastboot in Mi A2 too. I think this can be ROMs issue too. I tried to flash via fastboot with adb or with Xiaomi flash tool but both were unsuccessful due to an unknown issue. I tried them on 3 computer with over 16 GB of ram so it's not my computers problem.
We just need Xiaomi talk clearly about this problem. It's not a small one
I just want to know if our phones have the hardware problem or no
Update: At the 22 of October, we created an issue tracker for google devs, And they are investigating the problem. If u have the problem too, pls go to the button link and star the issue:
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/118036531
Update: ( 24.10)
Google admin:
We have passed this to the development team and will update this issue with more information as it becomes available.
that's right, it's a common problem on this cell phone, we hope that with the October update it will be resolved as more and more complaints
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Let's see some screenshot
Many Beta testers in India MIUI forum believe that its just my problem and they haven't any problem with ROM speed
I can confirm this. What's promising that speeds are good on freshly installed system. So it can mean that this is something with the software, not hardware.
pianistaPL said:
I can confirm this. What's promising that speeds are good on freshly installed system. So it can mean that this is something with the software, not hardware.
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Exactly. When i install fresh rom, there is no problem. both speeds are about 200 MB/s. But after few days... Its like hell and it cause some lag and bad response on touch
Maybe someone who has installed MIUI version on Mi A2 can do the tests, because MIUI doesn't have two partition system, so we can see if there is difference there.
And how are the Mi 6x 64/4 test speeds ?
Because it is the same hw on this phones, we can know is it software or hw issue.
Been using my a2 for a monthish now. Idk what people are complaining about.
Harald.T said:
Been using my a2 for a monthish now. Idk what people are complaining about.
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Your score is very low actually lol
pianistaPL said:
Your score is very low actually lol
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Yeah but idk what the problem is. Device is still performing great.
Harald.T said:
Yeah but idk what the problem is. Device is still performing great.
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The device is overall very smooth but it has problem with storage operations, for example deleting apps' cache
pianistaPL said:
The device is overall very smooth but it has problem with storage operations, for example deleting apps' cache
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I think the ram management on the a2 is horrendous. I usually have less than a gb free. Where as on my old phone (p9 lite 3gb ram) I had 1.5gb free no matter what.
Harald.T said:
I think the ram management on the a2 is horrendous. I usually have less than a gb free. Where as on my old phone (p9 lite 3gb ram) I had 1.5gb free no matter what.
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I wonder why people think more free ram is better. Ram is there to be used and empty ram is wasted ram. Do you have any issues with apps closing unexpectedly? If not ram management is good actually.
Benjamin_L said:
I wonder why people think more free ram is better. Ram is there to be used and empty ram is wasted ram. Do you have any issues with apps closing unexpectedly? If not ram management is good actually.
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So I was downloading the new update while browsing XDA. The phone kept freezing up so I checked cpuz.. had about 150mb free of ram. I don't think that downloading an update takes that much ram.
Harald.T said:
So I was downloading the new update while browsing XDA. The phone kept freezing up so I checked cpuz.. had about 150mb free of ram. I don't think that downloading an update takes that much ram.
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Is not for RAM, Is problem of the ROM memory.
Harald.T said:
So I was downloading the new update while browsing XDA. The phone kept freezing up so I checked cpuz.. had about 150mb free of ram. I don't think that downloading an update takes that much ram.
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When device Writing, touch response is like hell. Freeze and lag
Harald.T said:
Been using my a2 for a monthish now. Idk what people are complaining about.
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90MB/s writing is not good really. It must be about 200 at least. But it's not about speed. it's about instability. Try to run that benchmark again. Then try to use ur phone...
Just a question. Since this happens after some use, it could just be that memory isn't being trimmed (properly).
Could you trim the memory and do a benchmark then?
You can trim it via terminal or using the Trimmer app from the play store. Root needed for this.
ILA said:
Just a question. Since this happens after some use, it could just be that memory isn't being trimmed (properly).
Could you trim the memory and do a benchmark then?
You can trim it via terminal or using the Trimmer app from the play store. Root needed for this.
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My device is not rooted but i will find another person to do this
behzad.bz said:
90MB/s writing is not good really. It must be about 200 at least. But it's not about speed. it's about instability. Try to run that benchmark again. Then try to use ur phone...
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Holy crap youre right. So it's a rom issue. Ffs xiaomi

the answer to all questions

Camera is ok
Battery is below average
Lags
Has many bugs
Memory is slow
Sound management is **** (blame android i guess)
2/10
Coming from a Sony Xperia XA I had got for free this phone is so bad I really need to change it asap
most of these are software issues which Xiaomi got to move and fix it ASAP
Mem_0 said:
most of these are software issues which Xiaomi got to move and fix it ASAP
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Which xiaomi won't because they exist since release*
ilgreco112 said:
Which xiaomi won't because they exist since release*
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just be hopeful and no they didst exist on Oreo as far as I know :'3
Well I'm definitely getting the note 6 pro instead
ilgreco112 said:
Camera is ok
Battery is below average
Lags
Has many bugs
Memory is slow
Sound management is **** (blame android i guess)
2/10
Coming from a Sony Xperia XA I had got for free this phone is so bad I really need to change it asap
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i am surprised at this. how is the camera bad. its good enough for the price.
lags. have been using it since the launch and not once has it lagged for me.
memory is slow? what does that even mean
srgudhka said:
i am surprised at this. how is the camera bad. its good enough for the price.
lags. have been using it since the launch and not once has it lagged for me.
memory is slow? what does that even mean
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I said camera is ok, not bad.
it lags everytime and freezes sometimes.
the memory is slow means I feel like I have windows 98 on an old HDD.
anyway I'll buy another phone as soon as I get money
Welll... i barely notice any difference compared with nokia 7 plus, for example, which has the same SoC
hate much?

Question LineageOS

Are there any dev / maintainers for LOS with the pro 10 working on a build?
I assume there are, but they are working on tree and some sutff around that. I read somewhere that OP didn't release proper drivers etc for it because our OSS is more like in beta or alpha stage, so wait for it. It will come sooner or later.
Not sure about a proper device maintainer but there was another post about aosp/lineage gsi that worked. It's on page 6 if I last recall. There's the link to the release.
Releases · phhusson/treble_experimentations
Notes about tinkering with Android Project Treble. Contribute to phhusson/treble_experimentations development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Sure would be nice to dump this spyware OOS asap
djrion said:
Are there any dev / maintainers for LOS with the pro 10 working on a build?
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You can always go to lineage webpage and see on what devices they are working
Any idea when there will be custom roms? 3 months and nothing kinda sucks.
Twiggy000b said:
Any idea when there will be custom roms? 3 months and nothing kinda sucks.
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Nothing yet, maybe they'll all come at once...
i wish! i traded my pixel 6 pro for the 10 pro :c
Twiggy000b said:
i wish! i traded my pixel 6 pro for the 10 pro :c
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I also ditched the Pixel 6 Pro, and haven't looked back. Enjoying 10 Pro stock for now
galaxys said:
I also ditched the Pixel 6 Pro, and haven't looked back. Enjoying 10 Pro stock for now
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Really? It doesn't have all the issues that the 9 series does? Can you run Speedometer 2.0 in Chrome and tell me what you get?
Speedometer 2.0
EtherealRemnant said:
Really? It doesn't have all the issues that the 9 series does? Can you run Speedometer 2.0 in Chrome and tell me what you get?
Speedometer 2.0
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No obvious issues for my usage so far! Here you go:
galaxys said:
No obvious issues for my usage so far! Here you go:
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Yeah that's definitely throttled (it should be around 125) but nowhere near as bad as they were doing it on the 9 series where we got 15-20 when we should have gotten 105.
Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 Benchmarks: Huge AI And Gaming Gains For Next-Gen Android Flagships
Qualcomm's new flagship Android phone platform shows a massive performance uplift in key areas and we ran all the numbers.
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I just wish they would stop doing it period. It doesn't help battery much and it is really noticeable in the browser even though the throttle is system-wide in OOS12 instead of the blacklist in OOS11.
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i get ,87 on my op9 non pro versions. i think you should get more than that
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^Yesterday I was streaming music in one of my chrome tabs when I ran the test. Would that affect this app's results?
galaxys said:
^Yesterday I was streaming music in one of my chrome tabs when I ran the test. Would that affect this app's results?
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Not to the extent that it ended up being affected. OnePlus has so far shown no interest is reverting their throttling behavior so I would have been very surprised if you didn't have it. At least it's not this though... This is stock OOS 11.2.10.10 on my 9 last night as I haven't rooted it yet to flash the module that disables part of the throttling.
I'd hope once lineage releases it'll pave the way for others , this phone needs a custom ROM like a fat kid needs cake
galaxys said:
^Yesterday I was streaming music in one of my chrome tabs when I ran the test. Would that affect this app's results?
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I think it would..I just got 70.9 with over 100 other tabs in memory.
Edit: nope I got 1% extra.
Tbh it's a browser, who cares?
Gaming is solid, runs Tekken tag tournament at full speed so yea theres not many non 8 gen 1 SOC devices that can run that.
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Not to the extent that it ended up being affected. OnePlus has so far shown no interest is reverting their throttling behavior so I would have been very surprised if you didn't have it. At least it's not this though... This is stock OOS 11.2.10.10 on my 9 last night as I haven't rooted it yet to flash the module that disables part of the throttling.
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what module are you talking about ?
dladz said:
I think it would..I just got 70.9 with over 100 other tabs in memory.
Edit: nope I got 1% extra.
Tbh it's a browser, who cares?
Gaming is solid, runs Tekken tag tournament at full speed so yea theres not many non 8 gen 1 SOC devices that can run that.
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I do way more browsing than gaming on my device and it's hugely noticeable, especially on sites that have code like Disqus.
EtherealRemnant said:
I do way more browsing than gaming on my device and it's hugely noticeable, especially on sites that have code like Disqus.
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Fair point, would you say this phone is slow though? Regardless benchmarks?
What about brave or Firefox? Or others, and thing?

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